tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post3280289352618630008..comments2024-03-26T05:23:11.280-07:00Comments on WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: THE INTRA-SEAL RAPTURE DECEPTION EXPOSED: FINAL TRANSCRIPT PUBLISHEDTreena Gisbornhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-267267892440993362019-10-13T13:15:22.158-07:002019-10-13T13:15:22.158-07:00From someone who actually knows something. I cant&...From someone who actually knows something. I cant't hardly believe all the deceptive goings on in this world, at this time.<br />I would like to know who in hell came up with this Restrainer nonsense. The one who's letting the mystery of iniquity work is the Devil, then and now, when he is cast to the earth after the opening of the sixth seal, he is being taken out of the way, by Michael and his angels. Then shall that wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and the brightness of his coming.Gods Foretellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05573984657305843903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-62615729924412035092019-03-10T10:54:29.799-07:002019-03-10T10:54:29.799-07:00Thanks for more info!! I love to research things!!...Thanks for more info!! I love to research things!!! Im sorry that you haven't found a safe church over there either. Glad to hear you have some fellowship though!! Unfortunately, many of my "friends" r from other churches that are unsound and they eventually disappeared . I do have some secular friends and I try to bring Jesus into our conversation...<br /><br />Jesus is enough, in this season as we see Daniels 70th week get closer and closer, Im thankful for the Holy Spirit's continual faithfulness, provision, and watchcare. He's been so very faithful and Im VERY thankful for that! Take care, Ill continue to follow you and pray for you as you fight the good fight over this virulent man who wants all the attention. and any others you can expose!!! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11784725283785208151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-68949731815689026932019-03-10T10:45:18.556-07:002019-03-10T10:45:18.556-07:00I have not managed to find a sound church here in ...I have not managed to find a sound church here in Leicester. All the churches here are riddled with apostasy and ecumenism. From what I have heard, this is the situation almost everywhere now. I do have fellowship with some friends at home. <br />I hope you regain your health and manage to find some good fellowship yourself. <br />God bless. Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-36492046078129258342019-03-10T10:42:03.372-07:002019-03-10T10:42:03.372-07:00John Haller is a FB friend mine. Bill Randles was ...John Haller is a FB friend mine. Bill Randles was also a FB friend of mine but he unfriended me a few weeks ago when I persisted in challenging him and his wife about Prasch. They are very wrong to honour Prasch above the Word of God. They should be challenging him, not supporting him.<br /><br />Please read my post: 'Moriel's Creatures Identified'. <br />See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41WrYtyQBI <br /><br />Please feel free to share anything of mine on Facebook if you think it will help. <br /><br />Thank you for your encouragement.<br /><br />God bless.Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-72963490660973310222019-03-10T10:28:18.690-07:002019-03-10T10:28:18.690-07:00Thank u for your reply...Idk if you've heard o...Thank u for your reply...Idk if you've heard of John Haller but that's the little church Im referring to here in central Ohio...he does an internet end times thing as they also record their service by Steve, the main pastor. He's the only one that has told me he REALLY likes jacob and everything he says. Ive had trouble with him many times over the years, and it just keeps getting worse. It would seem that these physical things are hindering from going there for a reason. You can't hear a sermon w/o some mention of jacob or his teaching. I don't believe in chewing the meat and spitting out the bones. That's waaaaaaaay too much to chew through and God gives His children pure milk.....***SIGH**** Really glad God brought you out and that NOW you can do teh work you're doing!!!! Idk about trying to speak to folks in this little church, but, I feel like I prolly need to share some stuff on fb anyways...would that be ok with you? If not, I understand. I particularly like the little video of him saying that!! It's GREAT!!! Thank you for all you're doing here! You are really bringing some things to light that I've always wondered what was going on but couldn't put a finger on it. Oh, also, do you know a guy named Bill Randles? When the David Nathan thing was going down, my friend was telling me about some stuff and Im friends with him on fb and saw his "not letting go" of the issue after david retracted but I still dont know if bill is a supporter of jacob??? Very convoluted for sure!! Anyways, thank u dear sister in Christ!! Have you found another church? You would think theres a safe, sound church somewhere in a big city like Columbus ohio, but alas, not to be. Im looking forward to looking up that Omer thing too!!! THANKS!!!!!<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11784725283785208151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-82726539237430446222019-03-10T09:27:23.675-07:002019-03-10T09:27:23.675-07:00Hi - Yes you are right - intra-seal is just a Pras...Hi - Yes you are right - intra-seal is just a Prasch thing. I am very grateful that the Lord has helped me to completely debunk it in all its aspects. Many people have stopped following Prasch since he shot himself in the foot due to the David Nathan episode and his further attacks on the Menelaws GV24/7 TV. I used be an avid supporter of Prasch until I began to question intra-seal. My more recent posts shed more light on his false teachings.. and his ecumenical connection with David Noakes who claims to be a prophet and speaks in the first person of the Lord. Look up Counting the Omer and my more recent material:<br /><br />https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/search/label/Jacob%20Prasch%20Moriel%20Ministries<br /><br />I find that prayer and patience are required in order to reach staunch supporters of Prasch, but there have been significant breakthroughs in recent months. <br /><br />God bless. Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-74708045222018265292019-03-10T07:56:09.040-07:002019-03-10T07:56:09.040-07:00Good morning! So I stumbled on your blog here by ...Good morning! So I stumbled on your blog here by looking for "intraseal rapture" hoping it wasn't just a prasch thing. Theres a little church close to me that seems sound - they broke off their main church - Grace Brethren - due to erroneous teaching my the leadership and were able to bring some out and started this church. I came in after they left....the pastor they have had for a while now LOVES prasch and idk if thats he got his hands in there or if it was the other leaders....I havent been in a while but still keep in touch....So met with a gal the other night and she brought up this "new" teaching that they were doing, and it didn't seem that prasch was doing it but another ss teacher. This is why I did a search. Theres many things wrong with prasch, his anger and rage, his inability to be teachable and humble...2 Timothy 2...he also has this other teaching on midrash and how it affects all things in the Bible but it's just a jewish thing and while it's mentioned in the OT, it has NOTHING to do with the gospel....Im really struggling - Ive not been going due to physical problems, but Prash has his tentacles all around and in and out and up and down...he comes to do "teachings conference" where folks travel from all over to come to Ohio...Its CRAZY!!! I want to go back, but for just this person alone, is enough for me to stay away. I was going to study this "intraseal" thing to see if it's true or not, my girlfriend and I just went over a couple of things, but now I am learning it's just another prasch thing...THANK YOU for your blog and posting on this issue!!! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11784725283785208151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-33675431354752077052019-01-03T01:40:56.778-08:002019-01-03T01:40:56.778-08:00Hi Hevisko.. If you select Jacob Prasch Moriel Min...Hi Hevisko.. If you select Jacob Prasch Moriel Ministries on the side menu of my blog you will get everything that is in the book and more. I do want to publish it in non kindle version eventually when I have updated it. God bless. Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-72006344858649192442019-01-03T01:11:58.538-08:002019-01-03T01:11:58.538-08:00Hi Treena,
Do you have a non-Kindle version avai...Hi Treena,<br /><br /> Do you have a non-Kindle version available?heviskohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09366910267956762823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-39670845073276091172018-12-18T01:32:59.185-08:002018-12-18T01:32:59.185-08:00See the debate between Doug Stauffer and Joe Schim...See the debate between Doug Stauffer and Joe Schimmel Anonymous. The pre-trib view is very dangerous to believers and is giving false hope. I stand by the pre-wrath view. God bless.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQoR16TQXVU<br />Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-35919434276739664962018-12-17T17:21:48.615-08:002018-12-17T17:21:48.615-08:00The scriptures obviously teach a pre-tribulational...The scriptures obviously teach a pre-tribulational harpazo/rapture. Watch Prophecy Watch, especially Doug Stauffer who refutes perfectly every other rapture view. I could go on all day in this post but ... just watch either 'Prophecy Watch' or 'Prophecy in the News'. The rapture is pre-trib and was 'ordained' by God to be so, before even eternity was created. See also the website faithalone.org Maranatha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-61324308549652700362018-04-17T14:07:38.559-07:002018-04-17T14:07:38.559-07:00It is a very difficult balance unknown. Truth and ...It is a very difficult balance unknown. Truth and love are inseparable.. so what do we do when a theory like intra-seal is provably not the truth? I did try to approach Jacob Prasch with my concerns very early on, and I was very supportive of him at one time. The problem is that he refuses to address the numerous theological difficulties associated with his theory and he has resorted to ad hominem attacks. I suggest you read his comments on my original intra-seal post. I have tried to be gracious, but it has not been possible to deal with the problems biblically. In fact I am very upset that things have not worked out as they should have. God bless. Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-76356501150703332092018-04-17T13:27:00.789-07:002018-04-17T13:27:00.789-07:00I sense no brotherly love here in these comments.....I sense no brotherly love here in these comments... Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04975097271222510882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-46637397853173369252017-03-07T03:26:28.435-08:002017-03-07T03:26:28.435-08:00Prasch has a loyal following, which makes them a d...Prasch has a loyal following, which makes them a difficult group to reach. I have lost some very dear friends because I have questioned Intra-Seal. My prayer is that those who support Prasch will look beyond the man and take the time to study the scriptures for themselves. It is no small matter that he systematically denies the gospel and the ministry of the Holy Spirit during the 70th week of Daniel! God bless. Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-4005871510703930252017-03-05T06:36:11.985-08:002017-03-05T06:36:11.985-08:00I fear you may be right, Treena. It's very unp...I fear you may be right, Treena. It's very unpleasant to think of it but has Prasch been an extremely well camouflaged wolf all along? I may be wrong but I cannot think of anywhere in the New Testament where there is any category between teacher and false teacher. <br /><br />When tempting our saviour Satan used scripture (the actual words) and Jesus countered him with scripture quoted in its proper context. So Knowing what scripture says but twisting it seems to be a good indicator of what is in a person's heart. I know I get things wrong but when the truth is shown to me I stay a million miles from the error and seek forgiveness. I've been thinking about this a lot lately.Monopodehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10577151700144464122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-42815777032897692302017-03-04T12:52:34.541-08:002017-03-04T12:52:34.541-08:00I do not think a man such as Prasch would accident...I do not think a man such as Prasch would accidentally make such foolish mistakes as he has with Intra-Seal. This leaves me with what I can only describe as some very serious concerns. I really do not know what to think, but I hope and pray that he will put it right quickly. He is a big fish in a small pond, but that pond contains many genuine believers, some of whom I know personally. I would hate to see any of my friends deceived. God bless you Monopode. Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-48030042924385483062017-03-04T12:26:57.734-08:002017-03-04T12:26:57.734-08:00I'll look forward to reading it. Prasch is as ...I'll look forward to reading it. Prasch is as stubborn as a mule. I'm done with him to be honest. Unless he recents it all and puts it right anyway. Monopodehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10577151700144464122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-91121401258568039742017-02-25T19:00:39.372-08:002017-02-25T19:00:39.372-08:00Thank you Colin. God bless.Thank you Colin. God bless.Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-90910708348918030452017-02-25T13:46:11.189-08:002017-02-25T13:46:11.189-08:00We can certainly commend Jacob Prasch for his stan...We can certainly commend Jacob Prasch for his stand against the unbiblical pre-trib rapture, a false teaching that we believe will prove to be a means of great deception as the present age draws to a close. But, his offering, though not quite as bad; you have nonetheless clearly shown that it is also without any Scriptural support whatsoever.<br /><br />It is very sad that Jacob has become so dogmatic about his new theory, for he certainly has the biblical knowledge to know that his doctrine doesn't hold water. It is as you say a VERY convoluted teaching, which no doubt no one will understand, including Prasch himself! I think because he is such a big fish in a small pond he feels that he has to be original and come up with something to dazzle the 'itching ears' of his followers!<br /><br />As for me, I remain a historic pre-millenial, post-trib believer.<br /><br />Good work, and a thorough debunking of an eschatological theory that should never have seen the light of day!<br /><br />God bless.<br />colinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07132820921599851331noreply@blogger.com