tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post5174470627912602555..comments2024-03-26T05:23:11.280-07:00Comments on WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: CALVINISM: THE HORRIBLE DECREETreena Gisbornhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-67625490404120892512021-08-15T12:33:26.281-07:002021-08-15T12:33:26.281-07:00Jack: Please explain John 12:32 The risen Christ...Jack: Please explain John 12:32 The risen Christ draws ALL men to himself. In John 6 it is the Father doing the drawing. Things changed after the ressurection of the LORD JESUS CHRISTAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09591898122509001229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-22498807667671502082018-05-20T18:51:37.385-07:002018-05-20T18:51:37.385-07:00For by grace you have been saved through faith. An...For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, Ephesians 2:8<br />Nevertheless we are exhorted to put our trust/faith in God <br />Isaiah 26:4; Psalm 62:8; Proverbs 3:5 etc. etc. <br />Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-29943125844999760112018-05-20T18:49:03.502-07:002018-05-20T18:49:03.502-07:00Treena Gisborn said...
Colin..
"The expressi...<br />Treena Gisborn said... <br />Colin..<br />"The expression, "book of life," is found only in this book and Philippians 4:3. In all the places where it occurs it seems to refer primarily to Christians (cf. Philippians 4:3; Revelation 3:5; Revelation 20:12, 15; Revelation 21:27; Revelation 22:19). At baptism the Christian's name is written in the "book of life," from which there is always a possibility of it being blotted out (Revelation 3:5)." http://biblehub.com/revelation/13-8.htm<br /><br />God is sovereign undoubtedly .. nevertheless he has created human beings with the ability to choose whether or not to follow Him. "..choose this day whom you will serve." Joshua 24:15. Invitations to follow Jesus are too numerous to mention. Matthew 11:28; John 7:37 etc.<br /><br />You know that I believe Genesis 6:5 refers to the total corruption of the human genome. "Just as it was (emphatic) in the days of Noah, so will it be in the days of the Son of Man." I think we must consider this further possibility without prejudice. The OT makes no sense at all unless we can grasp that the judgement upon Canaan was linked with Nephilim hybrids. Certainly, the reason that the ten spies did not enter the land of Canaan initially was due to the presence of giants. (Numbers 13:28). These hybrids stood in an entirely different relationship to God from humans - they were not redeemable! They were to be devoted to destruction i.e. completely obliterated - in some cases along with the livestock. This would explain why everything in some cases, not only humans needed to be destroyed.<br />you shall not leave alive anything that breathes. Deuteronomy 20:16<br />For more information see:<br />http://nephilimfiles.blogspot.co.uk/2017 /09/the-nephilim-were-on-earth-in-those.html<br /><br />God bless Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-33304271279158210932018-05-04T12:45:18.640-07:002018-05-04T12:45:18.640-07:00Treena, you recommended we watch ‘Why regeneration...Treena, you recommended we watch ‘Why regeneration cannot precede faith’<br />I haven’t listened to it because I already know that regeneration can’t precede Faith – but with a one essential proviso:<br />We must know whose faith we are talking about – and the circumstances under which that faith operated to bring about spiritual regeneration.<br />The faith is not human in derivation – the faith is that faith which belongs to Christ and allowed Him to know absolutely that in giving His life at Calvary - He would be resurrected after three days and three nights in the grave.<br />Christ’s faith is divine in origin and is not an attribute owned by fallen man. If any person has real faith, then it has been gifted to him/her by God through His Holy Spirit.<br />If a person has faith to truly recognise Christ as his/her Saviour - then that faith was not sourced in themselves ……….rather it was given to them by Christ, through the Holy Spirit.<br />God Bless<br />Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-36610984377976543962018-05-04T12:12:30.957-07:002018-05-04T12:12:30.957-07:00Jack...
Matthew 13:11... Jesus was speaking priv...Jack... <br /><br />Matthew 13:11... Jesus was speaking privately to his disciples. I would put this verse amongst those that Flowers refers to as a temporary hardening of the Jews in general in order to facilitate the inclusion of the Gentiles in due time.<br /><br />John 10:22-30. Again, Jesus was addressing a specific group of people.. The sheep in this context are the Jewish people. The unfaithful Jews were not of the truth. John 10:24-28; John 10:38; John 18:37). “For if you believed Moses, you would believe me;” (John 5:46).<br /><br />“If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; but if I do them, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me, and I in the Father.” (John 10:37-38) Was Jesus contradicting Himself? Their reprobate condition was obviously subject to change upon repentance.<br /><br />Jesus switches between the future tense .. those who will believe.. and those who have been given by the Father during Jesus’ earthly ministry. <br /> <br />Jesus says this PRIOR to the church age and is referring to his disciples. <br /><br />My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. (John 10:22). <br /><br />..and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. 36But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. 37All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. 38For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. 39And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 40For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.” (John 6:35-40).<br /><br />I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, (John 17:20).<br /><br />The total corruption which affects “traditional” denominations also affects the Calvinists. For instance, John Piper's association with Beth Moore, Rick Warren, Lectio Divina,, Christian Hedonism, replacement theology... John MacArthur says we can take the mark of the beast and be saved! and on and on.. Apart from a remnant, they have pretty much all lost the plot, whether “traditional” or Calvinist. <br /><br />God blessTreena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-55413171684829124392018-05-04T05:30:54.137-07:002018-05-04T05:30:54.137-07:00There is a 'book' called the "book of...There is a 'book' called the "book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" Revelation 13.8, WHO put the names there, God or us? As Luther rightly said "Freewill is a name for nothing". Certainly we have a 'free will', for (unless restrained!) we can choose to do whatever we 'will'! nevertheless, God is sovereign, and His will overrides anything His puny creatures 'will' do. This is absolute pre-destination at work.<br /><br />I quote an "excerpt" from Flowers/Thompson (I believe Dispensationalists?) with my interjections in brackets capitalised only for emphasis.<br /><br />"The doctrine of judicial hardening completely undermines Calvinism's doctrine of Total Inability (NO IT DOESN'T!). There is no practical or theological reason for God to put a blindfold on those born totally and completely blind from birth (WHY NOT?). And there is certainly no reason to judicially harden a soul born in the "corpse-like dead" condition of "Total Inability" proposed by the T of the Calvinistic systematic (AGAIN, WHY NOT?).<br /><br />"All the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and He doeth according to His will...and none can stay His hand, or say unto Him, What doest Thou?" Daniel 4.35, but perhaps Mr Flowers may well take God to task on this, and say to Him "What doest Thou?<br />Mr Flowers appears to have a humanistic bent, in the natural, there is much that I don't like in God's Book. From our own human reasoning was it right that ALL the children should be slaughtered in Joshua 6.21, 8.26, 10.41 and many other places beside, as God commanded?<br /><br />I see wickedness increasing all the time and to me the doctrine of human Total Depravity jumps out at me from God's word; Genesis 6.5, 8.21, Job 14.4, 15.14, Psalm 51.5, Jeremiah 17.9, Romans 7.18 etc. <br /><br />Where does Faith come from? according to John 3.3,7; "above"! for "WHO maketh thee to differ?" God, of course, 1 Corinthians 4.7! <br />Is there any divine spark in the natural man? 1 Corinthians 2.14 & Romans 8.7 will answer this question.<br /><br />God bless.colinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07132820921599851331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-90130739899193032092018-05-04T04:19:35.717-07:002018-05-04T04:19:35.717-07:00Matthew 13/11 comes to mind where Jesus explains t...Matthew 13/11 comes to mind where Jesus explains that only some have been enabled to know the mysteries of heaven…<br />And in John 10/22-30 Jesus confirms that only those who God has given to Him will effectively believe into eternal life.<br />It’s not a difficult concept to understand – Christians are given the remit to proclaim the gospel of Christ crucified and invite reaction – but only those who have been spiritually quickened will be able to effectively respond and thereafter become consciously aware of having received that which they have already been given – The Holy Spirit.<br />Speaking personally, I became a Christian in 1986 and for many, many years after, I honestly believed that I had, on my own initiative, chosen to believe in Christ. But through the years God, via His Holy Spirit, has been pruning and disciplining me - and is continuing so to do.<br />And it was through this very humbling and ongoing sanctification/chastening process that God, in his time, showed me that He had chosen me, and that I had not chosen Him. <br />Why did God wait through the passage of very difficult and humbling years to reveal this?<br />Because I needed humbled – I needed to know that it wasn’t because of any innate quality of mine that God had chosen me. I needed to be shown that I was no better than the worst of sinners.<br />God’s timing is sometimes confusing, however we are told not to lean on our own understanding.<br />For instance, it is only in recent years that God has revealed the total corruption which affects ‘traditional’ denominations.<br />Did you know that careful study of the Bible will reveal that Christ was crucified on the Wednesday and died late afternoon on that day - and thereafter rose, surprise, surprise, three nights and three days thereafter on late Saturday afternoon?<br />So much for ‘Good Friday’ and Easter Sunday aka the Lords Day – and so much for Sunday - the New Sabbath<br />God Bless<br />Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-74335210893619751032018-05-03T23:04:56.612-07:002018-05-03T23:04:56.612-07:00WHAT SHALL WE/I DO?
37Now when they heard this th...WHAT SHALL WE/I DO?<br /><br />37Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” 38And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.” 40And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.” 41So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls. (Acts 2:37...) <br /><br />30Then he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” (Acts 16:30-31).<br /><br />“Come now, let us reason together, says the LORD: though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall become like wool. (Isaiah 1:18).<br /><br />I recommend you listen to the following:<br />Why Regeneration Cannot Precede Faith https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fXKP_L8jFw<br /><br />God bless.Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-75739666889247706672018-05-03T22:30:45.479-07:002018-05-03T22:30:45.479-07:00I'm wondering how Calvin would have answered a...I'm wondering how Calvin would have answered a stranger who might ask him this question: "Can I use my free will to become one of your followers?" I'm also wondering how and when Calvin knew positively that he was truly predestined for eternal life with the Lord. As you may surmise, I am a "kindergartner" when it comes to Calvinism and will welcome any analysis of my wondering - whether or not you use your free will when responding to me! Irvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07634792243846422285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-56976926876472537712018-05-03T12:33:25.811-07:002018-05-03T12:33:25.811-07:00The problem which I have Treena is that I do not b...The problem which I have Treena is that I do not believe in 'free will' - I believe in 'self will' which is an entirely different attribute.<br />Free will and self will are very often confused, but they are distinctly different.<br />Free will is an illusion - not even God has free will - to retain His eternal status God must operate in absolute obedience to His eternal precepts - if He allowed the cancer of self-focus to seed and grow within the constitution of His self-sacrificial Triune being His reward would be death.Its as simple as that.<br />Self will (Sin) is a transitory state which, unless nullified by divine self sacrifice, will take any individual from life to death. (The wages of Sin is death?)<br />The exercise of 'self will'(Sin) always results in death - which is why our Father through Jesus' had to selflessly and sacrificially choose those who would believe in Him.<br />Our salvation is God's choice and God's alone.<br />It cannot be otherwise<br />God Bless <br /> <br />Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-44909152437214719272018-05-01T06:53:57.988-07:002018-05-01T06:53:57.988-07:00John 3:18 "Whoever believes in him is not con...John 3:18 "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God."<br /><br />The reason that people are condemned is because they do not believe. We were all condemned before we chose to believe. <br /><br />Dr Leighton Flowers talks about the "messianic secret" or "judicial hardening" of the Israelites.. "They are being temporarily blinded in their already calloused condition so as to accomplish redemption for the world.."<br /><br />Flowers: "At this vital time in human history, they are being 'judicially hardened' or 'cut off' (Rom. 9:1-3) or 'sent a spirit of stupor' (Rom. 11:8) so as to seal them in their already calloused condition (John 12:39-41; Acts 28:27). Scripture tells us that God is hardening the calloused Jews in order to accomplish a greater redemptive purpose through their rebellion. It is God’s ordained plan to bring redemption to the world through the crucifixion of the Messiah by the hands of the rebellious Jews (Acts 2:23)..<br /><br />In John 6 Jesus is addressing a large group of people nicknamed “the elect of God” who have “grown calloused” against His clear revelation and thus are being “given over to their stubbornness” or “blinded” from seeing the truth of who He is. This contextual information is very significant when attempting to understand the author’s intention with regard to the natural inability of mankind from birth, one of the primary Calvinistic premises..<br /><br />The doctrine of judicial hardening completely undermines Calvinism’s doctrine of Total Inability. There is no practical or theological reason for God to put a blind fold on those born totally and completely blind from birth. And there is certainly no reason to judicially harden a soul born in the “corpse-like dead” condition of “Total Inability” proposed by the T of the Calvinistic systematic.<br /><br />Plus, in my interpretation the hardening is not a permanent condition set before time began that seals most of humanity into a hopeless condition for all eternity. Instead, it is a temporary condition of those who have freely rebelled for a long time, which ultimately has the redemptive goal of provoking the hardened Jews to envy so that they too might be saved (Rom. 11:14).."<br /><br />These are excerpts Jack. The whole fascinating article is a must read: https://soteriology101.com/2016/01/02/the-messianic-secret/<br /><br />It is unlikely that I will be able to do any better than Flowers or Thompson on their excellent exegesis, though I do intend writing something more about the theological side of things at a later date. <br /><br />God bless.<br /><br /><br /><br />Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-15025992233948267002018-05-01T05:29:24.929-07:002018-05-01T05:29:24.929-07:00Treena you say that the scriptures, rightly unders...Treena you say that the scriptures, rightly understood do not preach double predestination - but I must respectfully disagree.<br />Jesus states in John 3/18 that those who do not come to believe on Him are already condemned.<br />And we know from John 6/65 and Romans 8/29 that no person can truly receive Jesus and be conformed to His likeness - unless His Father has eternally willed it. <br />So....in electing some to salvation, it will automatically follow that the 'non-elect' will remain condemned.<br />Yes/No?<br />God BlessJacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-80885818299835372352018-05-01T02:58:19.258-07:002018-05-01T02:58:19.258-07:00I have to respectfully disagree with Spurgeon on t...I have to respectfully disagree with Spurgeon on this Colin.. though I am told he was a great preacher in some respects. The scriptures, rightly understood do not teach double predestination. God bless. Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-41617131053331324812018-05-01T01:42:13.933-07:002018-05-01T01:42:13.933-07:00I agree with Calvin's soteriology, that is all...I agree with Calvin's soteriology, that is all. I see it very CLEARLY and unequivocally taught in God's word.<br /><br />I wholeheartedly agree with Charles Spurgeon:<br /><br />"I have my own private opinion that there is no such thing as preaching Christ and Him crucified, unless we preach what is nowadays called Calvinism. It is a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel and nothing else." <br /><br />Spurgeon is of course only referring to the acronym TULIP, not everything the great reformer did.<br /><br />I most certainly DON'T agree with everything Calvin taught and did...far from it! But let us not forget that Calvin emerged from very great darkness and superstition, he WAS after all a Roman Catholic priest! I depart from his teachings where they don't agree with Scripture. As Jack infers, the Reformation is on-going, yet is ever dwindling!<br />God bless. <br />colinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07132820921599851331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-10154815899983991002018-05-01T00:11:36.099-07:002018-05-01T00:11:36.099-07:00I do have some respect for Luther Jack. At least h...I do have some respect for Luther Jack. At least he tackled Roman Catholicism and taught the five solas. He was not completely successful I agree, and he wrongly held on to some RC traditions. If it were not for the Reformation then we would all be RC now. I have nothing but disgust for Calvin. God bless. Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-61743424757447026112018-04-30T23:48:28.009-07:002018-04-30T23:48:28.009-07:00Treena - nothing which you’ve written surprises me...Treena - nothing which you’ve written surprises me. I have long since held the opinion that the ‘Reformation’ didn’t go far enough. I’ve always likened it to a surgical procedure to remove a tumour where the surgeon has closed up without removing all of the growth - whereupon it immediately starts to grow again - as your short biography of Calvin ably testifies. Jacknoreply@blogger.com