tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post5719605610814027289..comments2024-03-26T05:23:11.280-07:00Comments on WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: ian mccormack open heaven spiritual deception part 1Treena Gisbornhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-3171512007045825152018-01-30T04:13:25.866-08:002018-01-30T04:13:25.866-08:00I watched Ian McCormacks videos yesterday and was ...I watched Ian McCormacks videos yesterday and was very deeply moved. But today I distinctly heard the Lord say to me He was a false Prophet! I was arguing a bit with the Lord but then just put it aside. Then I thought I would google it today and I found your site telling about his teachings and links with Bethel n Heidi Baker ect ! Im blown away! God WAS speaking to me! ( I wondered if it was satan )And he was right!Thx Treena for the warning!Pilgrimmumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03393433405335678467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-62010046290231909192017-08-14T23:49:27.075-07:002017-08-14T23:49:27.075-07:00I do not know if his story is accurate Anonymous.....I do not know if his story is accurate Anonymous.. it may have been Satanic hallucinations. He was a drug taker and had been stung several times -he may have gone into a coma. I can't say. God bless. Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-56231181900884923982017-08-14T16:20:59.646-07:002017-08-14T16:20:59.646-07:00If he was dead when he had the vision, who raise h...If he was dead when he had the vision, who raise him back to life? Can satan raise the dead?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-90548923936093935082016-03-15T14:53:32.518-07:002016-03-15T14:53:32.518-07:00Peace in Christ dear brothers and sisters!
I just ...Peace in Christ dear brothers and sisters!<br />I just happened to drop by here. I have also heard and read about Ian's testimony. I got very touched the first years I heard it. This may be true, God does anything in His own way and time. He knows how to reach each of us. Remember His hand is not too short that He cannot touched us and our hearts. As a christian believer, I may testify, that only through a personal meeting with our Lord I gave myself to Him and repented for my sins, He filled my life with His everlasting joy, forgiveness, washed me once and for all, set me free and answered to all my questions, and received me in the path of Life that is Jesus Christ alone and only Saviour and master. He has also taught me many things that I later discover when I started to get acquainted with the Holy Scripture. Praise God for that. Lets all be humble, no one knows God's ways when it comes to show abundant grace and caring. He did that with me, and yes I praise Him the most High for that , I am not any special, I understand that He may do that here and there to a broken heart that is diligently seek Him in due time. I am happy for your faith in Christ, and I pray that He directs Ian, yourself, and myself and many others to walk the narrow path and follow Him the way of righteousness. That Ian has now as you mentioned, I did not had a clue, is being involved with Jonsson, Eddie Baker, Yongicho, among others must be seen upon that he is being trapped into their falsehoods. Which means even him is in trouble, he needs our prayers and supports. Because the wolves are not trying to catch the wolves but on the contrary those who are elect and have a righteous heart. They will do anything to catch you and I and Ian and others who have a pure heart. Even if Ian has experience a close encounter with the Lord does not mean he is mr knows it all. He may fail at any time, thats why those who sees better should be their in the gap, praying and helping others to watch out. Now I know what I am talking about, for the Lord has shown me and taught me things that I have seen coming to pass all the time. Though He has also taught me to warn at all times, to care, to cry out and reach with a humble hearts to prevent others not to fall in the liars trap. I love you, care for you and pray for you all here and all my fellow christians who are true in their faith and hunger and thirst after our Lord of Righteousness and ways, that He hearkened our hearts, as a child we may respond to Him. Love/MiaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04312919598596791718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-34131974814604910722016-02-11T16:11:40.333-08:002016-02-11T16:11:40.333-08:00Hello, can someone explain Bethel church and the p...Hello, can someone explain Bethel church and the problem with that? I'm trying to catch up on all the reading here. Thanks :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-18012595814044887232015-11-23T22:33:49.838-08:002015-11-23T22:33:49.838-08:00I had just watched his story on youtube earlier an...I had just watched his story on youtube earlier and googled him and found this blog post. His story drew me in and made me tear up, so much conviction is in his voice. He really believes what he experienced.<br /><br />I'm starting to feel certain that all NDE's may be a trick of Satan at this point. So many ministries have been created out of someones NDE as of late. I've heard preachers on youtube talk about seeing mansions, amusement parks, roller coasters, huge golf courses, all of their dead loved ones, huge banquet tables with all the food you could dream of, etc. during their spiritual experiences to heaven. Is this really any different than muslims being tricked by Allah(Satan) into believing they will go to heaven and have 18 virgin servants? It seems as if many people are experiencing a great delusion which is worrisome. <br /><br />A part of me has always felt NDE's sounded too good to be true and their experience of going into the bright light and feeling so much love washing over them has always gave me a odd feeling as it brought to mind how moths might feel as they fly into an artificial bright light only to find that warm light is zapping them and they die. <br /><br /> What if the light is a delusion by Satan and if you go into after you really die you perish forever? What if Ian being "reborn" once he came back to life is really him being "possessed" by something else?<br /><br />Could Satan be giving so many loving NDE's to millions of people as of late to take over their bodies or to program them into believing he is God to trick them for when they actually die? <br /><br />It's scary to think about. The bible never talks about going into the light after we die or what we should do at the moment we die. I feel most of us could easily be tricked by other forces if our faith in the true living God isn't strong. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-63173126510392161632015-08-28T20:46:05.156-07:002015-08-28T20:46:05.156-07:00Dear Eugene
Thank you for your question. This is t...Dear Eugene<br />Thank you for your question. This is the difficulty I had with Ian McCormack for a long time. He claims to have said the Lord's Prayer and seemed to have repented and come to genuine faith in Jesus Christ. However, his teaching and his exposition of the scriptures is critically flawed. He supports apostates like Todd Bentley and Bill Johnson; he claims that he has a right of access to the third heaven at any time and he promotes the "fivefold" ministry which denies the foundation of the apostles. All of God's word is important: "The sum of your word is truth....." Psalm 119:160. Satan is a great counterfeiter even masquerading as an "angel of light".. 2 Corinthians 11:14. Jesus warned that at the end of the age, if possible event he elect would be deceived:<br />"For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect." Matthew 24:24. When the Antichrist appears, many people will believe that he is the Christ! <br />I remain even more suspicious of Ian McCormack's teaching than ever. <br />I have recently written a new article about his appearances on Revelation TV.<br />God bless you. <br />Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-77748982766136251022015-08-22T02:06:13.736-07:002015-08-22T02:06:13.736-07:00Just a little question: I have seen a video of Ian...Just a little question: I have seen a video of Ian preaching the authentic Gospel of forgiveness for sins, repentance of sins and surrendering to the Lordship of Christ. How can a man who had a false, deceptive vision do that? How is it that one can preach Salvation by Faith alone if he had a false encounter? I am not defending Ian nor am I criticising you, sister Treena. I am just questioning this. Lord, give us both discernment in the name of Jesus. Amen. :)Eugenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-12204669699254893122015-06-13T23:22:52.922-07:002015-06-13T23:22:52.922-07:00Which Jesus do they have Anonymous?
"For i...Which Jesus do they have Anonymous? <br /><br />"For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough." (2 Corinthians 11/4)<br /><br />Grave-Sucking is witchcraft and necrophilia ---- that is just one dreadful example of what they do at Bethel. They have a different Jesus!!! If you do not test the spirits by the Word of God you will be deceived.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrHPTs8cLlsTreena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-78447008428899004002015-06-13T21:43:22.336-07:002015-06-13T21:43:22.336-07:00"You will know them by their fruit." It ..."You will know them by their fruit." It is not as hard to tell false prophets from real ones as we suppose. Proverbs 18:20 says " from the FRUIT of his mouth a mans stomach is satisfied. " Matthew 12:34-35 " For the mouth speaks from the overflow of the heart. A good man produces good things from his storeroom of good, and an evil man produces evil things from his storeroom of evil." Ian, Bill Johnson, Heidi Baker, THEY ARE ALL PREACHING JESUS!! They say plainly over and over again that Jesus died for our sins and rose again..just cause you pick and choose certain words they say and dissect there testimonies JUST TO CRITICIZE does not mean they are false prophets.. " The Pharisee's tried to accuse Jesus of being a devil. They said his power came from Satan. He responded by saying " a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. " To say these people are false prophets is absurd. Yes , satan disguises himself as an angel of light but we are children of THE LIGHT. We have the Spirit. We can know and recognize truth and error. Look at the FULL BODY OF WORK of these people's lives! They are about Gods business 24/7. Don't be critical of them just cause manifestations of the spirit world can be hard to understandAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-90038756054399062922015-06-13T02:17:45.796-07:002015-06-13T02:17:45.796-07:00Hi Anonymous
I do not really consider myself to be...Hi Anonymous<br />I do not really consider myself to be an "academic theologian" as such. Compared with others I have very little knowledge actually. The Bible does say: "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." (2 Timothy 2/15 KJV) We should never downplay the Word of God against our own experience, and I fear that this what is happening in many Christian circles today. <br />Ian's prophecy in 2008 about a revival starting in London, spreading to the UK and beyond is very specific. If someone prophesies and that prophecy does not come true then it is a very serious matter!(Deuteronomy 18/20) We are warned repeatedly about false prophets in the New Testament e.g. Matthew 7/15; 24/24; 2 Peter 2/1; 1 John 4/1-6 etc. We are exhorted to TEST THE SPIRITS (1 John 4/1).<br />What concerns me about Ian McCormack is that he is associated with many false prophets e.g. Bill Johnson and Heidi Baker. He also says that he has access to "open heaven" at any time and goes there repeatedly. This is mysticism and gnostic - it is not biblical. <br />Ian's testimony is very powerful I agree - I believed it myself for a long time. I have not written this lightly I can assure you. Satan comes as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11/14) and looking more closely at the details of Ian's testimony and ministry I believe that it is actually a work of the enemy. I am sorry if this offends anyone. I will take my chances with the Lord over these articles I have written about Ian - they are meant as a warning to others and to point to the truth. Truth and Love go hand in hand - God's Word is truth (John 12/48) There can be no love without truth. God bless t <br />Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-67212747533423839412015-06-13T01:08:14.079-07:002015-06-13T01:08:14.079-07:00Treena,
Your credentials are admirable. Your knowl...Treena,<br />Your credentials are admirable. Your knowledge, learning, memorizing & quoting scripture are a gift. Many academic theologians have the goal to uderstand more detail because knowledge increases faith, for when we are tested. However, some have difficulty accepting or understanding others simple faith, without credentials. The Pharacies mocked the Apostles which Christ chose. There are enough doubters, in the world, to mock or accuse. The devil accuses you, me and everyone else before the throne day and night. Our faith without works is dead. Works alone dont get us in Heaven. I understand your intentions as well meaning but please be cautious to not become too "Pharacitical". The blog title regarding Ian is accusational, in nature. Therefore I was brought here. <br /><br />The tares and wheat grow together and Christ will seperate them. I see no evidence of Ian calling himself a Prophet, in the old sense. Prophesy is also a form of teaching or witnessing. In my humble opinion, Ian is witnessing his experience as a testimony, for Christ. He speaks of pure love, something Im not feeling in this blog. From what I can see, Ian's testimony is tilling or bringing many seeds to rhe field. There are tillers, planters, tenders & harvesters. His purpose may be different than yours. He appears to be bringing many more to Christbthan you may be able to bring so far. <br />Good fruit is good fruit.<br /><br />The potter decides the appearance of the vessel. Paul's ministry was different, in nature than Peter's, with the same goal. Yet Old Saul and Caiaphus had it in for Peter and the Apostles. Pauls experience was much different than the orhers but he spoke from pure love when the others doubted his experience. <br /><br />Indepth knowledge can tempt our ego and lead us to a well meaning but demonstrative approach. Academics seem to have book knowledge but at times lack some people skills in certain demographics. Therefore, Ian may reach others that some like yourself may be incapable of reaching. <br /><br />Many well educated theologians are challenged to be humble or meek. Meekness is the hardest of the beauttitudes. The ability to hold our tongue, not be right all of the time, have the last word or try to discern without judging is something everyone is challenged with every day. Wisdom begins with the fear of the Lord. I pray you may see your intentions may not be in linevwith Gods wil regarding Ian. l There are those who think God is on their side and those who pray they are on Gods side. There is a difference. That beingbthe ego.<br /> <br />The faith in Ians miracle is what has feigned, through doubt and accusation. Let he who is without sin be the first to cast a stone. Whete are your accusres. Then I accuse you not. Go and sin no more. Christ forgives when we ask Him sincerely. Even one of the two who were crucified, with Him, asked and was forgiven. Who knows what goes on between Christ and a soul the last second or millisecond of life? His simple truth can reach much further than many of the overly accomplished. <br /><br />Allthough you mean well I believe regading Ian you may owe him an apology, for even running the risk, of turning someone away, from his simple testimony of Christs Love, with your blog title analogy of him being a wolf in sheeps clothing but that is between you and God. I pray you will seek Him to ask what the right thing to do realy is.<br />Respectfully, a JointnHeir, in the Eternal Kingdom and Body of Christ. Amen.Adonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02339728442979906412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-73672714349160887292015-06-13T01:08:12.032-07:002015-06-13T01:08:12.032-07:00Treena,
Your credentials are admirable. Your knowl...Treena,<br />Your credentials are admirable. Your knowledge, learning, memorizing & quoting scripture are a gift. Many academic theologians have the goal to uderstand more detail because knowledge increases faith, for when we are tested. However, some have difficulty accepting or understanding others simple faith, without credentials. The Pharacies mocked the Apostles which Christ chose. There are enough doubters, in the world, to mock or accuse. The devil accuses you, me and everyone else before the throne day and night. Our faith without works is dead. Works alone dont get us in Heaven. I understand your intentions as well meaning but please be cautious to not become too "Pharacitical". The blog title regarding Ian is accusational, in nature. Therefore I was brought here. <br /><br />The tares and wheat grow together and Christ will seperate them. I see no evidence of Ian calling himself a Prophet, in the old sense. Prophesy is also a form of teaching or witnessing. In my humble opinion, Ian is witnessing his experience as a testimony, for Christ. He speaks of pure love, something Im not feeling in this blog. From what I can see, Ian's testimony is tilling or bringing many seeds to rhe field. There are tillers, planters, tenders & harvesters. His purpose may be different than yours. He appears to be bringing many more to Christbthan you may be able to bring so far. <br />Good fruit is good fruit.<br /><br />The potter decides the appearance of the vessel. Paul's ministry was different, in nature than Peter's, with the same goal. Yet Old Saul and Caiaphus had it in for Peter and the Apostles. Pauls experience was much different than the orhers but he spoke from pure love when the others doubted his experience. <br /><br />Indepth knowledge can tempt our ego and lead us to a well meaning but demonstrative approach. Academics seem to have book knowledge but at times lack some people skills in certain demographics. Therefore, Ian may reach others that some like yourself may be incapable of reaching. <br /><br />Many well educated theologians are challenged to be humble or meek. Meekness is the hardest of the beauttitudes. The ability to hold our tongue, not be right all of the time, have the last word or try to discern without judging is something everyone is challenged with every day. Wisdom begins with the fear of the Lord. I pray you may see your intentions may not be in linevwith Gods wil regarding Ian. l There are those who think God is on their side and those who pray they are on Gods side. There is a difference. That beingbthe ego.<br /> <br />The faith in Ians miracle is what has feigned, through doubt and accusation. Let he who is without sin be the first to cast a stone. Whete are your accusres. Then I accuse you not. Go and sin no more. Christ forgives when we ask Him sincerely. Even one of the two who were crucified, with Him, asked and was forgiven. Who knows what goes on between Christ and a soul the last second or millisecond of life? His simple truth can reach much further than many of the overly accomplished. <br /><br />Allthough you mean well I believe regading Ian you may owe him an apology, for even running the risk, of turning someone away, from his simple testimony of Christs Love, with your blog title analogy of him being a wolf in sheeps clothing but that is between you and God. I pray you will seek Him to ask what the right thing to do realy is.<br />Respectfully, a JointnHeir, in the Eternal Kingdom and Body of Christ. Amen.Adonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02339728442979906412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-12098820011677094742015-03-20T01:56:19.455-07:002015-03-20T01:56:19.455-07:00I suggest you read my follow up. This has a lot mo...I suggest you read my follow up. This has a lot more detailed theological information: http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/ian-mccormack-third-heaven-spiritual.htmlTreena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-89868936731627748302015-03-19T10:07:23.980-07:002015-03-19T10:07:23.980-07:00I have seen your comments but I don't see anyt...I have seen your comments but I don't see anything deceiving here...but for me he is genuine...but I may be wrong as I didn't go through all his teachings. Tha fact that he may have seen the heaven doesn't make him perfect, he is still a human being and can make mistakes. the fact that he has seen heaven doesn't make him a saint. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-28728419570205477592015-03-01T09:54:56.539-08:002015-03-01T09:54:56.539-08:00"Let no one in any way deceive you, for it wi..."Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God." 2 Thess 2/4<br />Lucifer: "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." Isaiah 14/4<br />Clearly Lucifer (Satan) is a usurper and wants to replace God himself. Satan will deceive the "very elect" if possible:<br />"For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect." Matthew 24/24<br />Apparent success, popularity and miracles mean nothing unless they are in agreement with God's Word. Satan will lead the whole world astray because he will be the ultimate "false christ". Be careful about calling other people "silly" - the deception in the churches is very strong - there are many false prophets and false christs - God will give people over to delusion who do not love the truth:<br />"Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false....." 2 Thessalonians 2/11<br /><br /><br />Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-1248973837900544252015-03-01T09:22:24.251-08:002015-03-01T09:22:24.251-08:00some comments I read are so stupid, people are say...some comments I read are so stupid, people are saying that satan can come in christs form and be a false jesus and give false hope so please tell me then you clever people , ian has spread that story all over the world and has changed peoples lives and brought them close to god and Christ so how does this help satan , think about it before you leave silly commentsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-28633133376743178392015-02-25T15:04:48.795-08:002015-02-25T15:04:48.795-08:00Hi Paula - I don't know if Ian M is a delibera...Hi Paula - I don't know if Ian M is a deliberate deceiver or not - I too believed his story years ago and was very touched by it. However there are now many question marks about him in my mind. I am a complete novice - it is what the Lord shows us and not about any special wisdom or knowledge we think we have. Prayer and our hearts desire for the truth is more important to the Lord than any education or degree. Do not be discouraged Paula - seek the Lord with all your heart and you will be rewarded. God bless txTreena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-35976882647831118762015-02-25T14:51:53.351-08:002015-02-25T14:51:53.351-08:00That is a very interesting question anonymous - I ...That is a very interesting question anonymous - I have been thinking about this quite a lot. I am writing another post about Ian McCormack due to the interest this subject has generated. The problem is that there are "false Christs" which are very close to the real Jesus Christ, but they are actually counterfeits. I believe that Ian McCormack has experienced a false "Jesus" and whether he is aware of it or not he is a deceiver. God bless tx Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-44679697866561942942015-02-21T21:36:49.561-08:002015-02-21T21:36:49.561-08:00But why Satan Used this experience to draw him to ...But why Satan Used this experience to draw him to Jesus Christ and the Bible? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-26315231190897555172015-02-11T21:33:26.814-08:002015-02-11T21:33:26.814-08:00Treena....I just recently watched a clip of Ian M....Treena....I just recently watched a clip of Ian M. on TV's 700 Club. It was of him as he is now. Then I saw one of him many years younger. At first while watching these videos, I was taken in & touched by his story...although both stories, many years apart were quite identically "scripted." Then on the 2nd clip I watched (as a younger man) he went in to detailed Scripture messages & it hit me that his nde could very well have been just his gimmick for a preaching ministry. I felt deflated...How do we KNOW when to believe. We can't all have degrees in Theology & Bible Knowledge like you. Peace, PJPaulahttp://hubpages.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-7441242051779172072015-02-08T00:53:35.764-08:002015-02-08T00:53:35.764-08:00Thank you for your comment Sharon. I also believed...Thank you for your comment Sharon. I also believed Ian McCormack's story as a young Christian. As you say he did seem very genuine - but remember that he was a drug taker; also he was full of poison from the jelly fish; and then he was treated with anti-venom medication. He may have had a very powerful spiritual experience, but I do not believe that this was from the Lord. Satan masquerades as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11/14) and this may explain what happened. Repeated "open heaven" experiences are definitely unbiblical and very dangerous. False teachers like Bill Johnson are promoting "open heaven" amongst other questionable things. Ian McCormack promotes Johnson on his web site. This "strange fire" is not from the Lord I am convinced (Leviticus 10/1). Ian has put himself, his family and many others at risk due to this dangerous teaching - it is very concerning. As you say we need to pray constantly. God bless you tx Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-13620799161864759702015-02-08T00:27:59.871-08:002015-02-08T00:27:59.871-08:00Dear Treena, I have just watched a little document...Dear Treena, I have just watched a little documentary about Ian M.'s nde. I thought it was pretty genuine. So I googled his name to see if there may be a video to share and ran across your page. I did not know that he is now professing this "open heaven" any time claim. This is totally false, in my humble opinion. I am wondering though...is it possible that his initial nde could of been of the Lord but then... through all the notoriety & all that comes with it he became distracted from his "true" mission. Or possibly the enemy used the notoriety as a means to take him away from his calling? I to find it troubling that his son is making these "Heavenly" claims also. The boy in which there was a book published then a movie, called "Heaven is For Real" or something of that nature has now came out & said his dad made the whole story up about his nde. So sad. Whatever the case we do need to "Pray without ceasing" b/c there are soooo many to pray for. I to need prayers for myself & family.<br /> Thank you for your page and standing in the truth of the G_d's Word. <br />Love & Blessings, SharonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-21306542409780631042015-02-07T07:53:50.920-08:002015-02-07T07:53:50.920-08:00Dear Anonymous
The Holy Spirit is the author o...<br /><br /> Dear Anonymous<br /> The Holy Spirit is the author of the Bible and always points us towards Jesus Christ. The Spirit and the Word (Jesus Christ) are inseparable (John 6/63; Hebrews 4/12) The Holy Spirit Himself repeatedly warns us to "test the spirits" by the Word of God. 1 John 4/1 explicitly warns: "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world." Those who do test the spirits and voice concerns are erroneously called "Pharisees". Why did Jesus Christ condemn the Pharisees? A "Pharisee" is someone who voids the Word of God by adding to it or taking away from it. "thus making void the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And many such things you do.” (Mark 7/13) The Pharisees did indeed blaspheme the Holy Spirit because of their unbelief which resulted in their own traditions which were in opposition to the Word of God. They did not believe Moses and the Prophets (the Word of God) and as such it was innevitable that they would reject Jesus Christ as well:<br /> "Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father. There is one who accuses you: Moses, on whom you have set your hope.For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me.But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe my words?”<br /> "For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart." (Hebrews 4/12)<br /> "For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints," (1 Corinthians 14/33)- This verse was a rebuke to the Corinthian church who were practising "charismania" turbulance and disorder - CONFUSION = "commotion" "tummult" as in Luke 21/9; 2 Corinthians 6/5; 2 Corinthians 12/20.<br /> Your definitiion of "False Teachers" is "Those trying to lead us astray and doubt everything, even if its from God" This definition of a false teacher is deeply flawed. Galatians 5/7-12 give us six identifiers of "false teachers".<br /> Believers who question these manifestations cannot be accused of "doubting everything" - that is a very sweeping statement. Those who believe the Word of God and follow Jesus Christ are not doubters they are followers.I personally am not a cessationalist, but I do put great emphasis on testing the spirits as we are commanded to do in the scriptures again and again! (1 John 4/1)<br /> In these days of spiritual deception the Bible warns constantly about the "apostasia" i.e. "the falling away" (2 Thessalonians 2/3).<br /> "For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect." (Matthew 24/24)<br /> "The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness." (2 Thessalonians 2/9-12)<br /> We would be extremely foolish/unwise not to heed the warnings of the Holy Spirit about false teachers.<br /> Much more could be said. I may write a follow up post on this subject.<br /> I do challenge anyone to prove that this "open heaven" experience is normative for believers from the Word of God.<br />Treena Gisbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16783721039030779975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4103925900569325548.post-72789159294447627022015-02-06T21:41:20.006-08:002015-02-06T21:41:20.006-08:00Treena, you said "The Bible tells us to test ...Treena, you said "The Bible tells us to test or prove all things (1 Thessalonians 5/21) I'm afraid that many are not doing this and are going into dangerous error.". <br /><br />The spirit of CONFUSION & DOUBT are NOT from God. As I read through everything that has been written and the comments, I can see that those who were previously moved and touched by Ian's testimony are suddenly confused and in doubt after reading your blog. Did those people not Have the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Discernment living in them at the time when they heard Ian's testimony? When they first heard Ian, they were touched and convinced he was genuine. Why do they doubt now and why are they confused? Could it be that those SEEDS of doubt and confusion have been sown through your blog, Treena?<br /> <br />One day we will all stand before the Living God and will give an account of what we have done (or said) on this earth. Let no-one be found guilty of blaspheming the Holy Spirit as the Pharisees did in Matthew 12. Let us NOT be found guilty of false accusations, for accusations come from the father of lies and deception, the thief, the destroyer of souls ! The accuser of the Brethren has been studying scriptures for thousands of years and yes, he uses scriptures to try and deceive the children of God! Let us not do the work of the Accuser of Brethren! As Jesus said "a house divided cannot stand."<br /><br />Without discernment, we will fall into the trap of False Teachers trying to lead us astray and DOUBT everything, even if it's from God. Be careful brethren. Indeed do test the spirit as we are commanded by God and recognise them by their fruits! (Matthew 12)<br /><br />Last but not least, when we were born-again, we received the Holy Spirit. He is the Voice of Discernment and HE (not man!) WILL reveal the Wolves in Sheep's clothing, the false PROPHETS, yes the false TEACHERS as well! Beware, for the enemy comes to kill, teach, destroy! <br /><br />Matthew 12: A House Divided Cannot Stand<br />22 Then one was brought to Him who was demon-possessed, blind and mute; and He healed him, so that the blind and mute man both spoke and saw. 23 And all the multitudes were amazed and said, “Could this be the Son of David?”<br /><br />24 Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, “This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.”<br /><br />25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? 27 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. 28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29 Or how can one enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. 30 He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.<br /><br />The Unpardonable Sin<br />31 “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.<br /><br />A Tree Known by Its Fruit<br />33 “Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit. 34 Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com