MARK HITCHCOCK: SIGNLESS RAPTURE, TPUSA "REVIVAL" AND SPIRITUAL DECEPTION

Why This Prophetic Shift Should Alarm Us

In his latest offering above, "prophecy expert" Mark Hitchcock highlights the alleged dangers of AI.

Hitchcock: "Think about how AI will explain the rapture.. You know what is going to happen when the rapture takes place. The whole world will turn to Chat GPT or whatever its future equivalent might be, to ask the question, 'What's just happened?' People all over the world are going to go to AI, trying to find out, 'What's going on here, what has just taken place?' And I am sure that AI will come up with some sensible, plausible explanation for the disappearance of millions of people that will calm the chaos and pacify the panic that will exist in the world.."  

I have pointed out a number of times in previous posts that the rapture is absolutely not a signless event. When the rapture occurs, after the great tribulation, the world will know exactly what has happened. Below are specific rapture passages that totally refute Hitchcock's false pretrib teaching. The scriptures explicitly refer to "a great earthquake, cosmic disturbances, the sign of the Son of Man, a loud trumpet, a loud command, the voice of an archangel, every eye will see him."  

And Jesus said, “I am, and you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.” (Mark 14:62).

Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. (Matthew 24:29-31 cf. Acts 1:9-11).

Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. (1 Corinthians 15:51-52).

For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. / After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord. (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17).

Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen. (Revelation 1:7).

When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood, and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale. The sky vanished like a scroll that is being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. Then the kings of the earth and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful, and everyone, slave and free, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains, calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?” (Revelation 6:12-17).

Hitchcock is closely associated with false teacher Jimmy Evans, and they have co-authored a number of books as part of "A Tipping Point Series", including "What's Next" and "Look Up". Jimmy Evans suffered a severe loss of credibility last year due to his abusive behaviour towards Jonathan and Suzy Lamb and his official approval of Joni Lamb's adulterous marriage.1 

More recently, Evans compounded his incompetence by date-setting the rapture, strongly hinting that it would occur on Rosh Hashanah. One would expect sound teachers to distance themselves from Evans, but some have shown their true colours and have continued their association with him. This is particularly true of Mark Hitchcock. (1 Timothy 6:10).

Hitchcock's inaptitude is compounded by his support for TPUSA. He recently described Charlie Kirk as "..a courageous godly young man who is impacting an entire generation for Christ and righteousness.."2 Whatever Charlie Kirk was, he was certainly not a biblical Christian! Amazingly, the people who have praised Charlie Kirk seem to have missed the elephant in the room, or have they? In reality, it was impossible to miss Kirk's ecumenical agenda, his racism, and his unstinting support of the seven mountain mandate.3  

Hitchcock claims that support of TPUSA events amounts to a "revival". However, nothing could be further from the truth. TPUSA downplays doctrinal differences, and in the process, they dilute and pollute sound doctrine. Speakers like Hindu Vivek Ramaswamy and false teachers like Mark Driscoll are anti-Christian indicators. It is patently obvious that TPUSA has never been about the true gospel of Jesus Christ. 

TPUSA is now getting far more negative feedback, with some recognising that it is a far-right political organisation that is alien to biblical Christianity. Some even compare TPUSA to far-right Naziism. 

Higher Education Inquirer: "Turning Point USA (TPUSA), brands itself as a conservative youth movement dedicated to free markets and limited government. In reality, a growing body of investigative reporting, watchdog research, and student testimony reveals an organization built on intimidation, manipulation, and close ties to extremists. Students should be aware of the risks before engaging with TPUSA in any capacity."4

But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep. (2 Peter 2:2-3).

1. https://youtu.be/H4a23HS7qu0
2. When Wickedness Increases | Marking the End Times
3. Charlie Kirk and the Ecumenical Agenda
4. Higher Education Inquirer : Campus Warning: Avoid Contact with Turning Point USA

Recommended Link

Have You Joined The Church Of Charlie Kirk Yet? Pt.4 - Pastor Brian Dunlop-Sunday Evening, Nov. 16th

MIKE WINGER IS SUCH A DISAPPOINTMENT

Mike Winger Endorses the Next Crusade | @Mike Winger

Above is a video by E511 Ministries. I am unfamiliar with their theology, and as such, I am unable to endorse them at the present time. The video demonstrates that Mike Winger is calling for the death of Muslims in Nigeria. I find this absolutely shocking! Along with others, Winger has turned away from the gospel in favour of political activism, and he now supports the TPUSA MAGA Trump agenda. 

The original Crusades took place between 1095 and 1291 and were initiated by the papacy to reclaim and defend the Holy Land (especially Jerusalem) from Muslim control. The result of the crusades strengthened papal authority and influenced European politics, trade and culture. In biblical terms, the Crusades were unrighteous and did not align with the teachings of Jesus Christ. Any crusade-style response to the terrible genocide and atrocities committed in Nigeria is tainted by fleshly political manoeuvrings and is unbiblical. Trump is not a Christian, and his agenda is not based on biblical principles. Winger's emotive one-size-fits-all is a gross distortion of the truth. According to various sources, the reality is more complex than simply framing the violence as "Christian genocide". Violence in Nigeria has affected both Muslims and Christians. Much of Nigeria’s violence is Muslim-on-Muslim as well as Muslim>Christian. In northern Nigeria, especially, many victims of Boko Haram, ISWAP, and bandit groups are themselves Muslims, indicating that the crisis is not simply one religion against another.*

Muslims make up approximately 50-55% of Nigeria's population, while Christians make up approximately 45-49%. The Christian population can be broken down into Roman Catholics in the east, and Protestants in the south (Anglicans, Baptists, Methodists and Independent/Pentecostal megachurches: Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG), Winners’ Chapel, and Christ Embassy are among the largest, with millions of members worldwide. As in other countries, the designation "Christian" is no indication of the true number of bible believing born-again Christians in Nigeria. In fact, the acute corruption in Nigeria is in no small part due to unscrupulous church leaders!

Vanguard: "Abuja — The Chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), Ola Olukoyede, has made a shocking allegation that some religious groups in Nigeria are more corrupt than public officials.
Speaking at a leadership conference of the Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG) over the weekend, Olukoyede claimed that the EFCC has recovered millions of naira from a religious organization recently.
'Pastors have made wealth the centrepiece of the gospel, which is far from the doctrine given to us by the apostles,' he said.
Akintunde was reacting to a viral video of a pastor allegedly claiming that God accepts tithes from proceeds of fraud and cybercrime."1 

Church Times Nigeria: "We live in an era of unprecedented religious visibility. Megachurches dot the skylines of major cities, religious broadcasting saturates the airwaves, and social media feeds are inundated with spiritual aphorisms.
Yet, beneath this veneer of vibrancy, a quiet crisis is unfolding. It is a crisis not of attendance, but of substance; not of passion, but of depth.
As noted in recent critiques of contemporary ecclesiology, the modern church is increasingly producing 'two-dimensional Christians', believers who possess a breadth of enthusiasm but a shallowness of understanding.
The prevailing focus on hyper-spiritism and radical prosperity has created a theological vacuum. In many urbanised pulpits, the historic Christian faith, once characterised by intellectual rigour, sacrificial love, and the navigation of suffering, has been repackaged into a “fast food diet” of immediate gratification.
This shift raises profound questions about the sustainability of such a faith and the spiritual legacy being left for the next generation. If the church is to survive the cultural and intellectual storms of the twenty-first century, it must move beyond the populist preachments of success and return to the foundational, albeit challenging, work of theological education and discipleship."2

Punch: "The Lead Pastor of Hilltop City Christian Centre, Lagos, Victor Akintunde, has said church 
leaders also share the blame for the country’s deepening corruption crisis.
In an interview, Akintunde expressed concern that many prominent pastors had veered away from the core message of Christianity, replacing it with an obsession with prosperity and wealth.
'Part of the corrupt tendencies that have bedevilled Nigeria emanated from church leaders.
'Many of us have left the message of Christ and are now fixated on prosperity." 3 

Similar to the UK, Europe and other countries, it appears that the number of true Christians in Nigeria is a small remnant. It is therefore a misnomer to identify Nigerian churchgoers as "our brothers and sisters" or "Christian martyrs". TPUSA, including Mike Winger and others, are in fact exacerbating an already bad situation by inciting violence due to their warped version of reality. I view the current situation as a call to repentance and an opportunity to proclaim the true gospel to both the Muslim population and to "professing" Christians who are not genuine believers. 

Those associated with TPUSA have compromised with a tainted ecumenical gospel, which is really no gospel at all. (Galatians 1:7). I am all in favour of raising strong objections and taking sanctions against the perpetrators of genocide in Nigeria, but this should be done in collaboration with the true gospel, which is the only solution for the world. (John 8:12).

Winger seems to have "forgotten" the clear teaching of Jesus Christ not to endorse violent action against persecutors.

But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, / that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. / If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Do not even tax collectors do the same? (Matthew 5:44-48).

But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil. (Luke 6:35).

Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them. Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep. Live in harmony with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly. Never be wise in your own sight. Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. (Romans 12:14-21).

For though we live in the flesh, we do not wage war according to the flesh. (2 Corinthians 10:3).

To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste… (Deuteronomy 32:35,43)

Greg Laurie's insensitively named "Harvest Crusade" recently intersected with TPUSA following the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The event took place on the 16th of November at Utah Valley University, and drew over 10,000 attendees. Laurie is the founder of Harvest Christian Fellowship (HCF) which is yet another mega church experiencing severe allegations of sexual abuse and cover up at the present time. Multiple lawsuits filed in 2025 allege that a former pastor and missionary associated with HCF abused and trafficked children at church-supported homes in Romania in the early 2000's. The suits also claim HCF and senior leaders, including Greg Laurie, were negligent in failing to present the abuse or respond adequately to warnings. There are currently ongoing public calls for Laurie to resign as Senior Pastor of HCF.4 

Many associated with TPUSA should address the plank in their own eye before they presume to inflict their views on others! (Matthew 7:3-5; Isaiah 9:16).

https://youtube.com/shorts/BTyA5hwComc?si=khKS-HixhdQjUcsA
Violence Continues in Nigeria Against Christians and Muslims - The New York Times

Nigeria violence: Data shows most victims are Muslim, despite focus on Christian attacks - Africa - World - Ahram Online*

1. Nigeria: Some Religious Groups More Corrupt Than Public Officials - EFCC Chair, Olukoyede - allAfrica.com
2. Crisis of Depth: Reclaiming Theological Rigour in Prosperity-Obsessed Church - Church Times Nigeria - News, features and more
3. Nigeria Corruption: Church Leaders Complicit, Says Cleric
4. Frmr Pastor at Greg Laurie's Church Accused of Child Abuse in Romania, Lawsuit Claims

CHRIS ROSEBROUGH'S INTERPRETATION OF EZEKIEL 37 DEBUNKED

F4F | Patricia King Hijacks Ezekiel 37 to Rob You of True Prayer

I have no argument with Chris Rosebrough's evaluation of NAR false prophet/teacher Patricia King in the above video. I concur that King's interpretation of Ezekiel 37 is a wicked distortion of the text and is demonic. (1 Timothy 4:1). Rosebrough's warning that the practice of "decreeing and declaring" robs believers of true prayer is critical to note. No biblical text instructs believers to decree and declare anything! (John 10:10). Those who teach this dangerous nonsense cut believers off from vital communication with God through prayer and petition. (Luke 18:1; John 14:14; Acts 1:14; 1 Timothy 2:1; Philippians 4:6; Ephesians 6:18; Colossians 4:2 etc). Mark and avoid Patricia King (Romans 16:17-18).

However, Rosebrough's interpretation of Ezekiel 37 as "the resurrection on the last day" and his redefinition of Israel as all believers is very puzzling.

Rosebrough: "This is a prophecy regarding the resurrection on the last day (v13). The resurrection of the dead, you see, the dead in Christ will rise first. You say, well, this is talking about Israel. Oh I know it is talking about Israel. Do you understand how Israel is defined according to Romans chapter 9 or even Galatians?  

The hand of the LORD was upon me, and He brought me out by His Spirit and set me down in the middle of the valley, and it was full of bones. He led me all around among them, and I saw a great many bones on the floor of the valley, and indeed, they were very dry.
Then He asked me, “Son of man, can these bones come to life?”
“O Lord GOD,” I replied, “only You know.”
And He said to me, “Prophesy concerning these bones and tell them, ‘Dry bones, hear the word of the LORD! This is what the Lord GOD says to these bones: I will cause breath to enter you, and you will come to life. will attach tendons to you and make flesh grow upon you and cover you with skin. I will put breath within you so that you will come to life. Then you will know that I am the LORD.’”
So I prophesied as I had been commanded. And as I prophesied, there was suddenly a noise, a rattling, and the bones came together, bone to bone. As I looked on, tendons appeared on them, flesh grew, and skin covered them; but there was no breath in them.
Then He said to me, “Prophesy to the breath; prophesy, son of man, and tell the breath that this is what the Lord GOD says: Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe into these slain, so that they may live!”
So I prophesied as He had commanded me, and the breath entered them, and they came to life and stood on their feet—a vast army.
Then He said to me, “Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. Look, they are saying, ‘Our bones are dried up, and our hope has perished; we are cut off.’
Therefore prophesy and tell them that this is what the Lord GOD says: ‘O My people, I will open your graves and bring you up from them, and I will bring you back to the land of Israel. Then you, My people, will know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves and bring you up from them. I will put My Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I, the LORD, have spoken, and I will do it, declares the LORD.’” (Ezekiel 37:1-14). 

This passage unmistakably refers to ethnic Israel. Ezekiel prophesies to the people of Israel and the land of Israel. (Ezekiel 37:12,14,21,22,25). Ezekiel describes a particular valley full of dry bones; these are not the dead of the entire earth, but are confined to a specific location. The bones cry out, ‘Our bones are dried up, and our hope has perished; we are cut off.’ (Ezekiel 37:11). Prior to the general resurrection, the dead in Christ will certainly have hope. Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment. (John 5:28-29). The general resurrection will occur instantaneously, whereas a process is described in Ezekiel 37, i.e. the bones reconnect; sinews, flesh and skin appear. Ultimately, when breath enters them, they rise as a living army. (Ezekiel 37:7-10). From Ezekiel 37:15, the passage itself identifies the bones symbolically as two sticks, i.e., the separated tribes, consisting of the ten northern tribes and the southern tribes of Judah and Benjamin. The bones symbolise the Israelites spiritually dead and in exile. The general resurrection of the dead described in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 will not emanate from the words of a prophet; rather, the resurrection will be commanded by the Lord Himself. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. (1 Thessalonians 4:16; cf. 1 Corinthians 15:51-52)). 

Jerome originally interpreted this passage as the general resurrection of the dead, but he was corrected by other theologians. According to Keil and Delitzsch, the specific Hebrew word used in Ezekiel 37:9 is הרוּגים, which does not signify the dead of all kinds. 

Keil and Delitzsch: "Ezekiel 37:9 those who are to be raised to life are called הרוּגים, a word which does not signify the dead of all kinds, but simply those who have been slain, or have perished by the sword, by famine, or by other violent deaths, and which indisputably proves that Ezekiel was not shown the resurrection of all the dead, but simply the raising to life of Israel, which had been swept away by a violent death. Kliefoth would account for this restriction from the purpose for which the vision was shown to the prophet. Because the design of the vision was to comfort Israel concerning the wretchedness of its existing condition, and that wretchedness consisted for the most part in the fact that the greater portion of Israel had perished by sword, famine, and pestilence, he was shown the resurrection of the dead generally and universally, as it would take place not in the case of the Israelites alone, but in that of all the dead, though here confined within the limits of one particular field of dead; and stress is laid upon the circumstance that the dead which Ezekiel saw raised to life instar omnium, were such as had met with a violent death.  This explanation would be admissible, if only it had been indicated or expressed in any way whatever, that the bones of the dead which Ezekiel saw lying about in the בּקעה represented all the dead of the whole earth. But we find no such indication; and because in the whole vision there is not a single feature contained which would warrant any such generalization of the field of the dead which Ezekiel saw, we are constrained to affirm that the dead men's bones seen by Ezekiel in the valley represent the whole house of Israel alone, and not the deceased and slain of all mankind; and that the vision does not set forth the resurrection of all the dead, but only the raising to life of the nation of Israel which had been given up to death."1

Gentile believers are not described as part of Israel in the New Testament. While both Jewish and Gentile believers are included in the body of Christ, the term "Israel" primarily refers to the Jewish people, particularly in the context of the Old Testament and early Christian teachings.

What I hope to convey to Chris Rosebrough and other teachers is that they have an obligation to rightly divide the word of truth on ALL questions of theology. (2 Timothy 2:15). I therefore urge them to reevaluate their eschatology.

Unfortunately, many believers have received incorrect eschatology from their denominations rather than from the scriptures. As a result, they have bought into replacement theology (supersessionism) and are either indifferent or even hostile toward Israel. It should be noted that Luther and the Reformers did not give detailed attention to eschatology apart from its relevance to justification by faith alone. In other words, the Reformers generally accepted the flawed amillenial position of Roman Catholicism. Believers need to be on the right side of this question if they are to avoid a posture that puts them at odds with the word of God and in agreement with the Antichrist. The Jewish people and Christians will experience the persecution of the Antichrist during the great tribulation. (Matthew 24:9,21; Revelation 12:14-17).

And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn. (Zechariah 12:10 cf. John 19:37).

I caution readers of this post to avoid the pretrib rapture position of hyperdispensationalists. This view is unreliable and raises more problems than it solves.*

The links below give information from the prewrath perspective. 

Israel Archives | Bible Prophecy Answers with Alan Kurschner

Israel at the Center of It All | Zion's Hope

David Rosenthal on Revelation 6–7 (Prewrath Video) | Bible Prophecy Answers with Alan Kurschner

pre-wrath rapture explained |3.5 year tribulation|prewrath timeline

Topical Bible: Jewish and Gentile Believers

 1. Ezekiel 37 Keil and Delitzsch OT Commentary

* 7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture (Full Movie)

REVELATION TV: "DISABLED CHILDREN DUE TO SIN" >TIM VINCE / SARAH TUN HATE SPEECH

Revelation TV : Award Winning Christian TV     (0:45:00 mark) 

Viewer Question: "Hi Tim and Sarah, we know we have a loving God, a forgiving God. I have wondered why King David's infant son with Bathsheba had to die when he was a few weeks old due to their sin of adultery.. and David arranging the death of Uriah, Bathsheba's husband. It seems so sad and harsh, an innocent little life?"

Sarah Tun: "..I don't have the conflict. I just see with Uriah, the adultery and all that, that child could not live. That could not happen, it just could not happen because of the unrighteousness.."  

Tim Vince: "I will give you an illustration from recent times. Cecil Parkinson, who was the Chair of the Conservative Party under Margaret Thatcher. He was committing adultery with Sarah Keays.. That child was disabled and died young. There is something that happens, certainly in the case of David and Cecil Parkinson's tragic story, but it doesn't have good life chances, a child born in that situation."

Sarah Tun: "It's not the child's fault, it's not God's responsibility, it's the outcome of unrighteousness. That's how I see it."  Sarah Tun shrugged, apparently indifferent to the plight of the disabled. She continued.. "It's the cost as well. Jesus said, 'Count the cost when you are going to follow me', and also Jesus paid the huge, huge price for all of us. That child.. that was the cost of the unrighteousness." 

Sarah Tun makes an incomprehensible connection between "counting the cost of discipleship" and the "cost of bearing a disabled child due to unrighteousness". Many children are born into adulterous relationships and are perfectly healthy. On the other hand, disabled children are born to couples who have not committed sexual sin. Vince and Tun not only talk nonsense, but they also talk dangerous nonsense and hate speech. Their brutal comments on the 5th of November (and also Vince on a previous programme) are likely to have caused pain to parents of disabled children and to disabled people in general. This spiritualized version of victim-blaming is callous and is based on gross ignorance.

It is ironic that Howard Conder himself is in an adulterous marriage and is guilty of sexual sin and unrighteousness. (Matthew 19:9). As far as I am aware, the children resulting from Howard and Leslie's adulterous marriage were not born disabled. The hypocrisy of these people is staggering. 

David's unique position as king of Israel is a critical factor to be considered in any discussion about the death of his son. The child was not born with a sickness > The Lord afflicted the child.. and he became sick. (2 Samuel 12:15). The death of the child was to be a public example to all Israel. (2 Samuel 12:12). This was the first visible chastisement inflicted on David; other far-reaching judgements were to follow. 

 

Why have you despised the word of the Lord, to do what is evil in his sight? You have struck down Uriah the Hittite with the sword and have taken his wife to be your wife and have killed him with the sword of the Ammonites. Now therefore the sword shall never depart from your house, because you have despised me and have taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be your wife.’ Thus says the Lord, ‘Behold, I will raise up evil against you out of your own house. And I will take your wives before your eyes and give them to your neighbor, and he shall lie with your wives in the sight of this sun. For you did it secretly, but I will do this thing before all Israel and before the sun.’” David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” And Nathan said to David, “The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die. Nevertheless, because by this deed you have utterly scorned the Lord, the child who is born to you shall die.” Then Nathan went to his house. And the Lord afflicted the child that Uriah’s wife bore to David, and he became sick. David therefore sought God on behalf of the child. And David fasted and went in and lay all night on the ground. And the elders of his house stood beside him, to raise him from the ground, but he would not, nor did he eat food with them. On the seventh day the child died. (2 Samuel 12:9-18).

Conder and his guests seem to delight in discussions pointing out the sins of unbelievers. They should limit their judgements to those within the church, but if they did that, they would have to condemn themselves. Unbelievers need to hear the gospel!

For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?  

I am reminded of Glenn Hoddle, who faced significant backlash and was dismissed as England manager in 1999 after making controversial comments suggesting that disabled people were suffering due to "sins from past lives". Although Hoddle claims to be a "born-again Christian", his belief in reincarnation is incompatible with biblical Christianity. Similarly, the beliefs of Howard Conder, Tim Vince and Sarah Tun are alien to biblical Christianity. Vince is ecumenical and Conder platforms false NAR teachers. I have no information about Sarah Tun, but her disgusting comments about disabled people speaks volumes. 

Mark and avoid Revelation TV. (Romans 16:17). 

WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: REVELATION TV: SPAIN ~ HOWARD CONDER'S WHITE ELEPHANT

ONE CHURCH LEICESTER: THE CHARADE CONTINUES!

VISION SUNDAY - One Church Together | 2nd November 2025, 11.30am

This year (2025/6), the agenda for "Vision Sunday" at ONE Church was pretty much along the same lines as previous years, with the usual puff piece* and self-congratulatory anecdotes. The whole performance was a marathon of mind control and mantras lasting almost two hours. The ultimate goal was, of course, to persuade members to part with their money. Hind: "The father is devoted to you ..be a giver ..give till it hurts ..give it all ..every need will be provided for". These kinds of manipulative statements are linked to the false prosperity gospel and the unbiblical doctrine of tithes and offerings.1 In the New Testament, giving was always to the poor; it was never under compulsion. (2 Corinthians 9:7; cf. Acts 11:20-30; Romans 12:13,15,25-27; 1 Corinthians 16:1-3; 2 Corinthians 8:1-4,9:1-2 etc). State-of-the-art buildings and land acquisition were the very last things on the apostles' agenda. 

The songs at ONE Church originate mostly from NAR Churches, including Bethel Church, Redding. Bethel is widely condemned as heretical, and their music is known as the gateway drug to dangerous NAR theology and the false prosperity gospel. Bill Johnson is quoted as saying, “Music bypasses all of the intellectual barriers, and when the anointing of God is on a song, people will begin to believe things they wouldn’t believe through teaching.” ONE Church offers performance in the guise of worship; their stage might even be from the set of Bethel Redding. Like many deceptions, ONE Church promotes a blend of truth and error which is a poor counterfeit of the real thing. (John 4:23).

Holly Pivec: "It’s not just about sermons anymore—sometimes it’s the soundtrack that shifts theology. Bethel Music isn’t just popular; it’s a vehicle for ideas that many churches don’t even realize they’re absorbing. The influence of the New Apostolic Reformation is often subtle… until it isn’t."2  

The fact that David Hind refers to himself as an "apostolic leader of leaders" is disgustingly vainglorious, and yet this is precisely the label he claims for himself. Whatever happened to humility?  (Galatians 6:3, Philippians 2:3; 1 Corinthians 8:2; Proverbs 26:12; 1 Corinthians 13:4). 

According to Hind, "God told them" to demolish the building next door at 12 Frog Island. Hind has been identified as a false prophet due to his previous unreliable attempts at playing the "God told me" card. This tactic is very prevalent within AoG and hypercharismatic churches. Conveniently for Hind, no one can actually put a nebulous "word from the Lord"  to the test. (1 John 4:1). I did not send the prophets, yet they ran; I did not speak to them, yet they prophesied. (Jeremiah 23:21 cf. Galatians 6:7).

Hind quoted from Revelation 3, Behold, I stand at the door and knock. (Revelation 3:20 cf. Revelation 2:7). The book of Revelation is directed to the churches; it is not directed to those outside the church. Ironically, the warning to Laodicea is particularly relevant to ONE Church as well as many others. Hind and his team should take this warning on board and repent while they still have time. 

To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:
These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Originator of God’s creation.
I know your deeds; you are neither cold nor hot. How I wish you were one or the other! So because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to vomit you out of My mouth!
You say, ‘I am rich; I have grown wealthy and need nothing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked. I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, white garments so that you may be clothed and your shameful nakedness not exposed, and salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see. Those I love I rebuke and discipline. Therefore be earnest and repent.
Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in and dine with him, and he with Me. To the one who overcomes, I will grant the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.
He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” (Revelation 3:14-22).

Some further observations.. 

The number of off-site campuses at ONE Church is now reduced to four from seven in 2014. The megachurch multi-site model has a terrible reputation, particularly in the US, where many abusers have been exposed. This particular model lends itself to, and is rife with, abuse of all kinds, notably spiritual, financial and sexual abuse. This situation stems largely from nepotism and/or ineffective board members who have no will to oppose authoritarian leaders. I recommend that readers of this post refer to the horror stories recorded by the following channel:(115) Not By Sight News - YouTube

I also notice that Brian Niblock is no longer on the Board of Trustees. I hope he will now have time to consider the many ungodly actions he has been party to over the years at TLC/ONE Church since Hind was railroaded in, and that he will repent. 

ONE Church is part of 'United Network' of Churches in Leicestershire. 

"One Church is part of 'United Network' of churches in Leicestershire. We love walking in unity with other local churches, and believe Jesus only has 'ONE CHURCH' in this county. Together we run leaders breakfasts, events for kids, youth and young adults, and prayer gatherings."

I was unsuccessful in my attempt to ascertain the churches ONE Church partners with in Leicestershire and whether they are ecumenical. Hind has a historic connection with Churches Together, which is ecumenical. Furthermore, J. John, who is ecumenical, spoke at ONE Church on the 28th of January 2024.

*A puff piece is a type of article or segment that offers exaggerated praise for someone or something, often ignoring critical viewpoints. It is commonly used in journalism to promote celebrities, books, or events without providing insightful commentary. Essentially, a puff piece serves to flatter or promote rather than inform critically.

1. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: DAVID HIND ONE CHURCH LEICESTER: TITHING DEBUNKED!
2. (113) Holly Pivec - YouTube

Report Finds Decades of Sex Abuse in Assemblies of God

(119) Leaving the Message - YouTube

Branham Team Fights for Cult Leader - Jack Moore and Avak Hagopian - William Branham Historical Research

The Widows Last Mite Is Not About Giving

JOE SCHIMMEL'S DISGRACE: GOOD FIGHT MINISTRIES CHARLIE KIRK TPUSA

Joe Schimmel: "I have never heard this man being mean-spirited!" 

Really? The black community does not agree! 

Although it is vociferously denied that Kirk was a racist by his supporters, there are clear examples that corroborate this allegation and confirm his damaging, racist remarks against the black community. 

Kirk frequently cast doubt on the qualifications of black professionals.. In 2024, he said, “If I see a black pilot, I’m gonna be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.” 

On one occasion, he referred to “a moronic black woman” in customer service and questioned whether she was hired “because of her excellence, or … because of affirmative action.”

Kirk attacked civil rights leader Martin Luther King: “Clarence Thomas was a far better black role model to celebrate than Martin Luther King. Period. End of story. This guy is not worthy of a national holiday.” At Turning Point USA’s America Fest in 2023, Kirk said, "MLK was awful. We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s." 

Kirk referred to journalist Joy Reid, former First Lady Michelle Obama, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, and Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson as “affirmative action picks", and he claimed they did not “have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously.”1
Kirk blamed a Black fire chief in Austin, Texas, for flooding deaths that occurred a three-hour drive away from the city.2 

Kirk denounced Juneteenth as a federal holiday commemorating the end of slavery. Kirk: “Juneteenth should not be a federal holiday.. This holiday is not about celebrating emancipation, regardless of the veneer they put on it.”2

These remarks make sense when the roots and history of the NAR and its ties to Brahnamism, British Israelism, and the Ku Klux Klan are understood.* 

Schimmel: "Everyone has their faults, and I didn't agree with some of his theology for sure.. and he was on the front lines." Charlie Kirk was on the "front lines" of apostasy, ecumenism, racism, and error.  It is one thing to have "faults", it is quite another to be apostate! If Joe Schimmel and Chad Davidson cannot see this, then they are blind and have lost the ability to discern.

Listen to the NAR heretics claim to be on the "front lines". 

If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness! (Matthew 6:23).

1. Charlie Kirk once said prominent Black women didn't have 'brain processing power' to be taken seriously | Snopes.com

2. Charlie Kirk Is Dead—But Black America Remembers His Racism

* William Branham Historical Research 

NO THEOLOGY BEHIND KING CHARLES' MEETING WITH THE POPE

According to Vatican News there is no theology behind King Charles' meeting with the Pope. Rather, the meeting focused upon the outward appearance of unity and the historical significance of the event being the first time since the Reformation that a British monarch has prayed publicly with a pontiff. 

Father Martyn Brown:“I think on both sides it's about recognizing that, even though there are remaining divisions between our churches—very serious ones on all kinds of issues that we work on in our various theological dialogues—there is a huge amount of common ground, of shared faith, of shared spiritual tradition.."1

The 16th-century Reformation in Europe began as a result of corruption within the Roman Catholic Church, particularly the practice of indulgences, which are still practiced by the RCC today. Reformers like Luther and Calvin shifted from the RC doctrine of faith plus works to justification by faith alone (Sola fide) as the basis for salvation. However, instead of replacing error with truth, the Protestant Reformers retained certain RCC heresies, including baptismal regeneration and transubstantiation. Calvin introduced the highly controversial and problematic doctrine of limited atonement, aka Calvinism/Reformed theology, as represented by the acronym TULIP. The Reformers' skewed eschatology generally followed the Roman Catholic amillenial position.  

Humberto R. Treiyer: "It has been stated that eschatology did not represent a main concern in the minds of the Reformers because soteriological and ecclesiological questions were the most pressing issues they had to face in the religious convulsions of the sixteenth century.  However, this is not totally right. It is true that the basic question underlying the theology of the Reformation was, 'How shall a sinner be justified before God?' or more directly, 'What shall I do to be saved?' Nevertheless, this crucial question cannot be fully answered apart from the eschatological hope.2  

The Reformation came to England due to Pope Clement VII's refusal to grant King Henry VIII an anulment from his marriage to Catherine of Aragon. This resulted in Henry VIII declaring himself the Supreme Head of the Church of England. While this shifted the governance and structure of the Church of England, the actual doctrinal changes Henry VIII made were few. In effect, the CofE remained doctrinally Roman Catholic in all but name. From the outset, the CofE left the door wide open to ecumenism and error. We are now witnessing besetting sin and error within the CofE which many predict will ultimately destroy it. 

Enter King Charles five hundred years post-Reformation. King Charles' beliefs are based on a philosophy of "harmony" rather than biblical truth.3 King Charles embraces ecumenism, interfaith, and universalism and he is completely at odds with the scriptures. 

As the so-called "Defender of the Faith", King Charles made an oath on the Bible at his Coronation, and he made a commitment to maintain "the true profession of the Gospel". 

The Coronation Roll: "The King knelt on his Faldstool and placed both hands on the Holy Bible while the Archbishop asked: 'Will you to the utmost of your power maintain the Laws of God and the true profession of the Gospel? Will you to the utmost of your power maintain in the United Kingdom the Protestant Reformed Religion established by law? Will you maintain and preserve inviolably the settlement of the Church of England, and the doctrine, worship, discipline, and government thereof, as by law established in England? And will you preserve unto the Bishops and Clergy of England, and to the Churches there committed to their charge, all such rights and privileges as by law do or shall appertain to them or any of them?'
The King answered: 'All this I promise to do', and continued with both hands still on the Holy Bible: 'The things which I have here before promised, I will perform and keep. So help me God.'
His Majesty kissed the Holy Bible."4 

King Charles' understanding of the gospel and the requirements of God is sadly wanting. Nevertheless, it is every person's responsibility to rightly grasp the meaning of the scriptures and to repent.

The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent, because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.” (Acts 17:30-31 cf. 2 Timothy 2:15).

..for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. (Romans 3:23-26).

Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:11-15).

The Roman Catholic Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) provides a detailed explanation of the alleged infallibility of the Pope.5 It states that the Pope, as the head of the Church, enjoys this infallibility when he speaks "ex cathedra", meaning from the chair of Peter, with the intent to define a doctrine for the universal Church. Scripture alone (Sola scriptura) is the foundational theological principle held by biblical Christians. Scripture alone is the supreme and final authority for doctrine and practice. The Lord Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life, the Son of God incarnate. (John 14:6). The Son of God alone has been given all power and authority in heaven and on earth. (Matthew 28:18). Christ alone (Solus Christus) has the authority to forgive sins. (Mark 2:10). Christ alone is the head of the church. (Colossians 1:18; Ephesians 1:22-23; Ephesians 5:23). For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, (1 Timothy 2:5). Any man or institution claiming infallibility is heretical.

The martyr William Tyndale was found guilty by his own admission and condemned to be executed due to his translation of the Bible into English. He "was strangled to death while tied at the stake, and then his dead body was burned". His final words, spoken "at the stake with a fervent zeal, and a loud voice", were reported later as "Lord! Open the King of England's eyes."6 I don't know if Henry VIII ever did repent, but certainly the scriptures were widely distributed in English as a result of Tyndale's direct challenge to the CofE's position and the authority of the Catholic Church. 

I am reminded of Isaiah's warning to King Ahab: If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all. (Isaiah 7:9). May God open the King of England's eyes in our time.

1. King’s visit 'confirms closeness between Catholic and Anglican Churches' - Vatican News
2. 1+(1998)+Treiyer+–+A+Brief+Introduction+to+the+Eschatology+of+the+Reformers,+Second+Coming,+Resurrection+of+the+Dead,+and+F (1).pdf
3. What Fueled King Charles's Fiery Gathering on His Beliefs? | WelshWave
4. Presentation of the Holy Bible and Oath Taking – The Coronation Roll
5. CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Infallibility
6. William Tyndale - Wikipedia

FOX'S BOOK OF MARTYRS: THE PERSECUTION OF DR AEGIDIO

Fox's Book of Martyrs, originally titled Actes and Monuments, was first published in 1563. It serves as a Protestant history and martyrology, detailing the brutalities faced by Christians, especially Protestants, under the Roman Catholic Church. The book focuses on the persecution of Protestants in England and Scotland, aiming to highlight the struggles and sacrifices they made for the Christian faith.

The Persecution of Dr Aegidio> Dr. Aegidio was educated at the university of Alcala, where he took his several degrees, and particularly applied himself to the study of the sacred Scriptures and school divinity. When the professor of theology died, he was elected into his place, and acted so much to the satisfaction of every one that his reputation for learning and piety was circulated throughout Europe. Aegidio, however, had his enemies, and these laid a complaint against him to the inquisitors, who sent him a citation, and when he appeared to it, cast him into a dungeon. As the greatest part of those who belonged to the cathedral church at Seville, and many persons belonging to the bishopric of Dortois highly approved of the doctrines of Aegidio, which they thought perfectly consonant with true religion, they petitioned the emperor in his behalf. Though the monarch had been educated a Roman Catholic, he had too much sense to be a bigot, and therefore sent an immediate order for his enlargement. He soon after visited the church of Valladolid, and did every thing he could to promote the cause of religion. Returning home he soon after fell sick, and died in an extreme old age. The inquisitors having been disappointed of gratifying their malice against him while living, determined (as the emperor's whole thoughts were engrossed by a military expedition) to wreak their vengeance on him when dead. Therefore, soon after he was buried, they ordered his remains to be dug out of the grave; and a legal process being carried on, they were condemned to be burnt, which was executed accordingly.

The Persecution of Dr. Constantine >  Dr. Constantine, an intimate acquaintance of the already mentioned Dr. Aegidio, was a man of uncommon natural abilities and profound learning; exclusive of several modern tongues, he was acquainted with the Latin, Greek, and Hebrew languages, and perfectly well knew not only the sciences called abstruse, but those arts which come under the denomination of polite literature. His eloquence rendered him pleasing, and the soundness of his doctrines a profitable preacher; and he was so popular that he never preached but to a crowded audience. He had many opportunities of rising in the Church, but never would take advantage of them; for if a living of greater value than his own was offered him, he would refuse it, saying, "I am content with what I have"; and he frequently preached so forcibly against simony, that many of his superiors, who were not so delicate upon the subject, took umbrage at his doctrines upon that head. Having been fully confirmed in Protestantism by Dr. Aegidio, he preached boldly such doctrines only as were agreeable to Gospel purity, and uncontaminated by the errors which had at various times crept into the Romish Church. For these reasons he had many enemies among the Roman Catholics, and some of them were fully determined on his destruction. A worthy gentleman named Scobaria, having erected a school for divinity lectures, appointed Dr. Constantine to be reader therein. He immediately undertook the task, and read lectures, by portions, on the Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, and Canticles; and was beginning to expound the Book of Job, when he was seized by the inquisitors. Being brought to examination, he answered with such precaution that they could not find any explicit charge against him, but remained doubtful in what manner to proceed, when the following circumstances occurred to determine them. Dr. Constantine had deposited with a woman named Isabella Martin, several books, which to him were very valuable, but which he knew, in the eyes of the Inquisition, were exceptionable. This woman having been informed against as a Protestant, was apprehended, and, after a small process, her goods were ordered to be confiscated. Previous, however, to the officers coming to her house, the woman's son had removed away several chests full of the most valuable articles; among these were Dr. Constantine's books. A treacherous servant gave intelligence of this to the inquisitors, and an officer was despatched to the son to demand the chests. The son, supposing the officer only came for Constantine's books, said, "I know what you come for, and I will fetch them to you immediately." He then fetched Dr. Constantine's books and papers, when the officer was greatly surprised to find what he did not look for. He, however, told the young man that he was glad these books and papers were produced, but nevertheless he must fulfill the end of his commission, which was to carry him and the goods he had embezzled before the inquisitors, which he did accordingly; for the young man knew it would be in vain to expostulate, or resist, and therefore quietly submitted to his fate. The inquisitors being thus possessed of Constantine's books and writings, now found matter sufficient to form charges against him. When he was brought to a re-examination, they presented one of his papers, and asked him if he knew the handwriting? Perceiving it was his own, he guessed the whole matter, confessed the writing, and justified the doctrine it contained: saying, "In that, and all my other writings, I have never departed from the truth of the Gospel, but have always kept in view the pure precepts of Christ, as He delivered them to mankind." After being detained upwards of two years in prison, Dr. Constantine was seized with a bloody flux, which put an end to his miseries in this world. The process, however, was carried on against his body, which, at the ensuing auto da fe, was publicly burnt. 

TPUSA: THE LETHAL MIXTURE POLITICS AND CHRISTIANITY

Charlie Kirk: Martyr for the Seven Mountain Mandate

And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church (ἐκκλησίαν), and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (Matthew 16:18).  

Charlie Kirk's interpretation of the above verse is a mandate for Christians to "build my church on this government structure". Kirk falsely claimed that the Greek noun ἐκκλησία (ekklesia) should be interpreted as "government structure". However, Jesus did not call Christians to build on existing government structures; He said I will build my church. Kirk's blatant misinterpretation of this verse accommodates the lethal seven mountain mandate. The lexical interpretation of ἐκκλησία is from a compound of ek (meaning 'from' or 'out of') and a derivative of kaleo (to call (forth). Strongs: "1577 ekklēsía(from 1537 /ek, 'out from and to' and 2564 /kaléō, 'to call') – properly, people called out from the world and to God, the outcome being the Church (the mystical body of Christ) – i.e. the universal (total) body of believers whom God calls out from the world and into His eternal kingdom. [The English word 'church' comes from the Greek word kyriakos, 'belonging to the Lord' (kyrios). 1577 /ekklēsía ('church') is the root of the terms 'ecclesiology' and 'ecclesiastical.']"1 People are called out of the world into the kingdom of God; It is Christ who builds His church, not Christians! Kirk's lethal strategy was to target the young and to shut down any objections without allowing anyone the time or opportunity to test his claims. (1 John 4:1). 

Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.” (John 18:36).

TPUSA, Dominion Theology, the NAR, and those who believe that secular government and Christians can work together to achieve Christian principles in the world are in serious error. (1 John 4:6). TPUSA is ostensibly a "Christian" organisation, and while they espouse some Christian values, there are red flags everywhere. Charlie Kirk gave his full support to the NAR seven mountain mandate. His divisive rhetoric against the black community was indefensible, and his ecumenism was demonstrated by his endorsement of the Roman Catholic Church and his validation of Mormonism. (2 Corinthians 11:14). On the 26th of September 2025, Vivek Ramaswamy, a Hindu and Republican candidate, faced questions about his faith at a Turning Point USA event. Ramaswamy is a veteran of Charlie Kirk’s “Prove me wrong” campus colloquies. Ramaswamy: “Every religion has its reconciling of the one and the many. And so, in my faith, I believe there’s one true God, he resides in all of us, and he appears in different forms, but it’s one true God. I’m an ethical monotheist.”2 

Politics and Christianity are like oil and water; their source are completely different. Politics is based on worldly governance, which is under the dominion of Satan. Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.” (John 18:36).

Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to him, “All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me.” Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’” (Matthew 4:8-10).

When Christians seek to infiltrate and influence the political strongholds of the world, they disobey Christ and transfer their allegiance to Satan's dominion. Paul used the terms "powers and principalities" to describe spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. (Ephesians 6:12). The apostles were subversives; they were killed because they were opponents of the state. The Christian mandate is to rescue people from the world  i.e. make disciples of all nations, and to preach the gospel to all creation. (Matthew 28:10; Mark 16:15). It is impossible for true Christians to gain political influence in the world without betraying the gospel. The world rejects and hates true Christians. (Matthew 10:22; John 17:14; 1 John 2:15; 2 Timothy 3:12-13). 

If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. (John 5:19).

Worldly influence only becomes possible when collusion and compromise are involved. The world is perishing and will ultimately be destroyed. (1 John 2:17; Matthew 24:35). According to the seven mountain mandate, the aim is for Christians to ultimately rule the nations. There is no persecution or cost involved in their agenda. Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.. (2 Timothy 3:12).

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed. Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of people ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness, waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be set on fire and dissolved, and the heavenly bodies will melt as they burn! But according to his promise we are waiting for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. (2 Peter 3:10-13).

The Antichrist will arise from the political arena. 

And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. And the beast that I saw was like a leopard; its feet were like a bear’s, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority. (Revelation 13:1-2). 

Revelation 13:1-2 draws from the four successive beast kingdoms in Daniel 7. Daniel's vision describes four distinct terrifying creatures placed in juxtaposition to the saints and the kingdom of God:‘These four great beasts are four kings who shall arise out of the earth. But the saints of the Most High shall receive the kingdom and possess the kingdom forever, forever and ever.’ (Daniel 7:17-18). The four beasts are described as the empires of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome, aligning with the vision of the statue in Daniel 2. In biblical literature, the sea often symbolizes chaos, evil, and the nations in turmoil. (Isaiah 17:12-13 cf. Revelation 17:15). 

I will briefly refer to Caleb Corneloup's recent video and his argument for Christians to be involved in politics.3 Caleb refers exclusively to characters from the Old Testament. While these examples are interesting, they are not relevant to the global situation and the nations today. Ancient Israel was a theocracy that was established by God Himself as outlined in the Torah. As such, it was unavoidable that their leaders would be politically active. We cannot compare Old Testament passages about political involvement with today's political activism in His name. No nation today has a covenant with God. Jesus Christ will establish a global theocracy when He returns.

Those who profess Christianity and use politics as a vehicle to achieve their goals inevitably become persecutors. Following Constantine’s alleged conversion to Christianity in 321AD, Augustine of Hippo introduced many heresies and paved the way for Roman Catholicism. Augustine argued that coercion was justified as a method of persuasion and correction. The dark history of Charlemagne, who was crowned Holy Roman Emperor in 800, is beyond doubt. The Roman Catholic Crusades from the 11th to the 13th centuries were a mix of politics, religion, and violence, during which time many atrocities were committed. Both Luther and Calvin made wicked choices when they held political power. Luther compromised when he opposed the peasants' revolt and sided with "the princes". Luther sanctioned the death penalty for Anabaptists, resulting in some of them being "rebaptised" by drowning in the Danube with rocks tied to their feet. Luther's open hatred of the Jews is well known, as is his rejection of certain New Testament books and his attempt to ban them. Geneva became a repressive authoritarian police state under the abuser John Calvin. Michael Seretus was murdered in 1553 for daring to disagree with Calvin. The NAR seven mountain mandate belongs to the same category as its predecessors; the seeds are being sown, and the final result will be the beast empire of the Antichrist. 

Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the judgment of the great prostitute who is seated on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth have committed sexual immorality, and with the wine of whose sexual immorality the dwellers on earth have become drunk.”And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness, and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was full of blasphemous names, and it had seven heads and ten horns. The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and jewels and pearls, holding in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of her sexual immorality. And on her forehead was written a name of mystery: “Babylon the great, mother of prostitutes and of earth’s abominations.” And I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. (Revelation 17:1-6). 

And the angel said to me, “The waters that you saw, where the prostitute is seated, are peoples and multitudes and nations and languages. And the ten horns that you saw, they and the beast will hate the prostitute. They will make her desolate and naked, and devour her flesh and burn her up with fire, for God has put it into their hearts to carry out his purpose by being of one mind and handing over their royal power to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. And the woman that you saw is the great city that has dominion over the kings of the earth.” (Revelation 17:15-18).

When we see Christian leaders like Joe Schimmel and Chad Davidson (Good Fight Ministries), Mike Winger, and Ray Comfort supporting TPUSA events, we should question their discernment and their true allegiance to Christ. 

1. Strong's Greek: 1577. ἐκκλησία (ekklésia) -- Church, assembly, congregation
2. Ramaswamy's TPUSA moment leaves believers asking, 'Why is Hinduism so hard to explain?'
3. Should Christians Be Involved In Politics?

CHAD DAVIDSON GOOD FIGHT MINISTRIES HYPOCRISY

Further to my recent post regarding Chad Davidson's attendance shame at TPUSA Cal State Fullerton.1 Good Fight Ministries could hardly claim ignorance that TPUSA is ecumenical, and yet in their hypocrisy Chad Davidson and other "reliable" ministers attended this event, including Mike Winger and Ray Comfort. In a recent comment on GFM's livestream, the question was asked: "Is TPUSA ecumenical?", to which they replied "Yes". This completely contradicts their praise of Charlie Kirk after his death when they described him as a "defender of the faith" who "loved Jesus".

GFM have failed to respond to my concerns and also the concerns of others. This is not the first time I have failed to receive a response from the leadership of Blessed Hope Chapel/Good Fight Ministries. In previous posts I have highlighted Joe Schimmel's skewed eschatology.2 

Given their numerous exposés of false teachers, I think GFM 's followers deserve an explanation. Otherwise should we assume that they are no better than the phonies who turn a blind eye when their true colours are revealed?

And Elijah came near to all the people and said, “How long will you go limping between two different opinions? If the LORD is God, follow him; but if Baal, then follow him.” And the people did not answer him a word. (1 Kings 18:21 cf. James 1:8).

1. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: CHAD DAVIDSON GOOD FIGHT MINISTRIES TPUSA SHAME
2. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: Good Fight Ministries

CHAD DAVIDSON GOOD FIGHT MINISTRIES TPUSA SHAME

Is This A Spiritual Turning Point? & Candace's Shocking Dream About Charlie Kirk Exposed

..if the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do? (Psalm 11:3).

GFM: "The Good Fight Ministries team had boots on the ground at the Turning Point USA event, where Ray Comfort and the guys from Living Waters used the opportunity to share the gospel with the student body at Cal State Fullerton. While there in person we even had the chance to do some interviews with those who attended. Today will be telling you what we saw, heard and thought of the event after taking it all in firsthand. Also, Candace Owens recently claimed to have been visited by Charlie Kirk in a dream. A dream she says confirmed her own beliefs about what happened and that it would all be revealed very soon. Finally, we'll look at the broader reaction from Christians across the country, many of whom are calling what's happening a revival following Charlie's death, while others are urging caution."

I am assuming Chad Davidson's attendance at TPUSA at Cal State Fullerton was with the blessing of his mentor Joe Schimmel. Both these men should know better, having warned about false teachers for years via their numerous exposés.

Do we really have to ask the question: Is this a revival?

What are the foundations of TPUSA? 

Charlie Kirk was a right-wing political activist, entrepreneur, and media personality. He co-founded the conservative student organization Turning Point USA (TPUSA) in 2012. Over time, he became aligned with the Christian right and began advocating for Christian nationalism. His more controversial views included criticism of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Martin Luther King Jr., COVID-19, claims of electoral fraud in 2020, and the white genocide conspiracy theory.

One of Kirk's favorite topics was skepticism about the value of college degrees. Wikipedia: "He had the advantage of having refined his debate performance against hundreds of people and used arguments likely to result in agitated and defensive responses by his less experienced opponents."1

Kirk's rhetoric has been described as divisive, racist, xenophobic, and extremist by groups that study hate speech, including the Southern Poverty Law Centre. Kirk's positions have been described as far-right by a variety of outlets and academics, and others state that these positions are now in the mainstream of American conservatism. 

Tragically, the ecumenical agenda has been radically advanced by Kirk. In this respect, he actually damaged the true gospel and he was an enemy of Jesus Christ. Kirk's unwavering commitment to the seven mountain mandate, his association with the NAR, Roman Catholics, Mormons, false teachers like Mark Driscoll, and his derogatory remarks about the black community are anti-Christian indicators. It is patently obvious that TPUSA has never been about the true gospel of Jesus Christ. 

Davidson discussed the problems encountered by Ray Comfort at TPUSA Cal State Fullerton. Comfort apparently received an invitation to speak at the event, and he accepted, claiming that he intended to preach the gospel. However, it all went badly wrong. Comfort had prepared two Charlie Kirk video clips and questions he would like to be asked. He told the associate producer how important it was that those two clips were played. After waiting all day for his slot and preparing what he was going to say, he discovered that "the powers that be" hadn't used those clips. After the event, Comfort admitted that he had messed up and he apologised to upset believers for being "rude, impatient, and unloving". This is what comes of validating false teachers and putting oneself under the authority of a pseudo-Christian organisation.2 

Others who attended were Calvinist Jeff Durbin, who is continuing to speak at TPUSA events. Mike Winger, whose latest exposé of "cover up culture" was achieved with the corroboration of false teacher and demon slayer Torben Sonderbgaard.3 

Gabe Hughes: "Now this movement may eventually be overrun by conspiracy theorists, by people trying to radicalize you to their agenda, and by liars and false teachers. But for now, we have this opportunity to share the gospel of Jesus Christ and speak the truth in love, and we should take it. It's dangerous, but eternal souls are at stake. The danger didn't stop Charlie Kirk, and it shouldn't stop us." 14:00 mark.  > The real danger is that TPUSA is leading thousands of vulnerable young people to accept a false gospel! (2 Corinthians 11:4 cf. 1 John 4:1).

Davidson: "I was astounded by how many false things were being shared.." 

Chad Davidson has chosen to ignore the elephant in the room. However, many of his viewers have not. The selection of comments below say it all. 

1. Charlie Kirk - Wikipedia
2. I made a HUGE mistake at our Turning Point USA event. I owe you an apology…
    My behind the scenes nightmare at Fox News...
3. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: MIKE WINGER: ABANDONING PURE DEVOTION TO CHRIST

Further Links

Conservatism’s Inevitable Conversion to Catholicism - Crisis Magazine
Erika Kirk Religion: Charlie's Wife Catholic or Protestant? Charlie Kirk's wife holds a rosary after his shooting. #shorts #CharlieKirk #ErikaKirk #Faith
Charlie Kirk Said ‘Mary is the Solution’ to Toxic Feminism in America: ‘We Don’t Talk About Mary Enough’ – EWTN Great Britain
Charlie Kirk’s Pastor REBUKES Candace Owens | The Truth About Catholic Claim
Charlie Kirk praised Tyler Robinson's religion just moments before 'assassin' from devout Mormon family shot him dead | Daily Mail Online
Lance Live with Charlie Kirk. Buckle up buttercup!
Charlie Kirk once said prominent Black women didn't have 'brain processing power' to be taken seriously | Snopes.com
Charlie Kirk Is Dead—But Black America Remembers His Racism
From Ku Klux Klan to QAnon: How Cults Fueled Racist Politics

WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: CHARLIE KIRK'S FAITH EXAMINED

MIKE WINGER: ABANDONING PURE DEVOTION TO CHRIST

Charlie Kirk, the Memorial, and how I am changing

But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. (2 Corinthians 11:3).

Mike Winger is the featured teacher of BibleThinker online ministry. He graduated from the School of Ministry at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa and was ordained in 2006.1 Winger abandoned his post as an associate pastor in Southern California, and he is now described as an "influencer".

I recently became very alarmed by Winger's attendance at the Charlie Kirk memorial and his subsequent announcement that he was "changing" and was considering involvement in the gospel combined with political activism. This is, of course, fraternization with the world and has nothing to do with pure devotion to Christ. Winger was seen happily chatting with Calvinist Jeff Durbin at the Kirk memorial. What I find troubling about this is that Winger seems to have difficulty drawing the line between calling out false teachers and fraternizing with them. Winger appeared to be the best of friends with Durbin at this event, which is surprising considering his in-depth series calling out Calvinism as unbiblical and the fact that many believers regard Calvinism as a "different gospel". (2 Corinthians 11:4; Romans 16:17-18)2 

Winger has recently attended a TPUSA meeting together with Ray Comfort to "see what he thinks".3 This is a no-brainer. Christ explicitly repeated the phrase, "My kingdom is not of this world".

Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.” (John 18:36).

Winger: "I am going to take down an artificial barrier that was stopping some of my activity of thinking biblically about everything.."4  Winger said this was an off-the-cuff "random weird livestream". It is never a good idea to do something like this on the spur of the moment without prayer and due consideration, especially considering the huge implications of Winger's new ideas. There was hardly any scripture in the entire 1:15-hour livestream; what scripture there was was twisted by worldly reasoning! (30:55 mark) As a so-called "influencer", Winger is on the cusp of deceiving his entire audience of approximately 100,0000 into worldly thinking and deflecting them from the true purposes of God! (Matthew 16:23). This is a massive issue! Charlie Kirk-style debating about moral issues is to go beyond the remit of Christian ministry. Conviction of sin is the work of the Holy Spirit! (John 16:8 cf. John 15:26-27). The primary sin of the world is unbelief. (John 16:9). Believers are called to preach the gospel and make disciples of all nations, nothing more. (Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:15; Luke 24:47). The New Testament teaches that it is those within the church we should judge; God will judge those outside. (1 Corinthians 5:12-13).

The considerable efforts of some to sanitize Charlie Kirk's legacy should fool no one. Kirk was a fast talker and a skilled debater whose opponents consisted largely of inexperienced college students who were no match for his considerable rhetorical expertise. In many instances, he "won the argument" due to what in my view were bullying tactics. On close examination, Kirk has been proven to be contradictory and factually wrong in a number of instances.TPUSA is a worldly organization that seeks to attain political dominion, hence their allegiance to many NAR false teachers who promote Dominion Theology. Charlie Kirk was heavily invested in the unbiblical NAR Seven Mountain Mandate. 

The "Third Way" theology within TPUSA represents a complex interplay between political activism and theological fidelity, challenging believers to navigate the complexities of contemporary culture while adhering to their faith. The critical question is whether political activism and adherence to faith can be combined or whether they are mutually exclusive. Jesus Himself did not involve Himself in the politics of His time, and neither did His apostles. The political realm is part of the worldly system of corruption and will ultimately be used by the Antichrist as his vehicle to gain ascendancy. TPUSA has been described as a threat to democracy and has been linked to white nationalism and Christofascism.      

It should be noted that Satan is presently in authority over worldly powers. Jesus rejected worldly power and dominion when he rejected Satan's offer of "all the kingdoms of the world". The required compromise is "if you will fall down and worship me.."

Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to him, “All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me.” Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’”Then the devil left him, and behold, angels came and were ministering to him. (Matthew 4:8-11).

You adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore, whoever chooses to be a friend of the world renders himself an enemy of God. (James 4:4 cf. 1 John 2:15-17; Romans 12:2). 

Dominion theology and true faith in Christ are at variance with one another. Any Christian supporting TPUSA must abandon biblical eschatology and realign their faith to political dominionist eschatology rooted in this world. 

Will TPUSA and Dominionism make a positive difference in the world? Not according to Jesus. Jesus described a multiplication of wickedness and a deterioration of the world in the last days. 

Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you. For many will come in My name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. These things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.....For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.. (Matthew 24:4-8,37 cf.Genesis 6:5). 

But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. For among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions, always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth. Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men corrupted in mind and disqualified regarding the faith. But they will not get very far, for their folly will be plain to all, as was that of those two men. (2 Timothy 3:1-9).

And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who was sitting on the horse and against his army. And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur. And the rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse, and all the birds were gorged with their flesh. (Revelation 19:19-21 cf.Revelation 16:14). 

 

Further Concerns

As recently as November 2022, Winger claimed that he would "absolutely" fellowship with false churches like Bethel.. I will not throw out the baby with the bathwater. I think that Bethel is not a church full of demons. Bethel is a church full of people that are sincere, that have some things off.. I would still fellowship with them. I would still call them my brothers and sisters in the Lord. Absolutely."5 I was concerned about this statement at that time, but I gave Winger the benefit of the doubt. Winger only changed his mind about Bethel when he received severe pushback and was shamed into issuing a retraction. I now regard Winger's statement at that time as a red flag and a harbinger of things to come. Having given this matter further consideration in light of recent events, it seems incomprehensible that a discerning Christian teacher could have missed Bethel's blasphemy and failed to call them out adequately. Bethel Redding is a hotbed of aberrant NAR New Age unbiblical teachings, including spiritual fakery, grave suckng, and the prosperity gospel.6 

Winger's anonymous witnesses during his exposure of Todd White was unbiblical. Winger claimed that multiple eye-witnesses came forward alleging years of disqualifying behavior from White, including theft, pathological lies, spiritual abuse and manipulation, and allegations of domestic abuse. However, Winger's multiple eyewitnesses failed to materialize. Winger claimed, “I’ve met with them, confirmed their identities, seen the evidence that corroborates their testimonies, and believe that it’s Christ-honoring to come forward and shout a warning to believers everywhere that Todd White is disqualified and dangerous.” It may well be that Winger's accusations against White were true and I do not dismiss them. However, biblically, we should not accept an allegation against an "elder" (I use the term loosely in Todd Whites case) without evidence. Biblically, the word of a single witness is unacceptable, and corroborating evidence is always required. (Matthew 18:16; 1 Timothy 5:19; 2 Corinthians 13:1; Deuteronomy 19:15, etc.) Winger promised that the evidence would be forthcoming, but it has never materialized. Winger's exposé would have endorsed White's already tainted reputation as a conman who engages in parlour tricks and false teaching, but without corroboration, it cannot be accepted. 

Winger "About those objections to hell..." 28 September 2023: "I am open to the idea of annihilationism or conditional immortality.."7 (10:42 mark). At the same time, Winger affirms the existence of hell. This kind of double-talk is very unhelpful and waters down the gospel. 

Recently, I reported on Winger's interview with Elijah Stephens, where it was assumed that false teachers could be reinstated. Winger: "This video is made to help stir up positive change in the movement." Stephens repeatedly made protracted appeals to Shawn Bolz and Bethel leaders to take accountability and to reform their ministries.8 Once again, Winger apparently failed to comprehend that Shawn Bolz and Bethel leaders are utterly disqualified and should never assume the role of teachers within the body of Christ, even if they do repent. 

Mike Winger's recent exposure of cult leader Steven Koko, the so-called "predator of Panama",9 involves close collaboration with hypercharismatic false teacher Torben Sondergaard, founder of The Last Reformation.10 Sondergaard is a "thus saith the Lord" leg puller and demon slayer who hijacks people into false repentance. (See further links) Again, I am not dismissing Winger's claims against Koko, and it appears that in this instance, there are viable witnesses to the abuse. However, no bona fide Christian apologist should collaborate with false teachers like Sondergaard > the means do not justify the ends.

What Winger describes as his epic fight against "cover-up culture" may seem very worthy, but it is problematic. Winger's response to Koko's "goons" is "over my dead body". This sounds very courageous, but Christ is not looking for lone ranger heroes who ignore his precepts, just faithful servants.11

Winger: "Over my dead body.
Steve Koko's goons are already threatening people with legal action, trying to get my video removed. Can I reply to them right here?
My reply: If we got anything wrong reach out to me and tell me. But, if you are trying to intimidate and control, doing Cover-Up Culture (as I suspect) then I want you to know that every action you take will only make things WORSE for you. I will shine the light on your acts and the things you do to try to continue intimidating and controlling people. If my video has anything wrong in it, I will happily deal with it. But, when it comes to lies, threats, and bullying, my only response to you is 'over my dead body.'"

Having now done a much deeper dive into Mike Winger's ministry, he puts me in mind of compromiser Michael Brown, who speaks out of both sides of his mouth and makes excuses for false teachers. I now regard Winger as unsafe, and critically, he is potentially part of the false light of the political right. 

   

1. About BibleThinker - BibleThinker
2. Why I Think Calvinism Is Unbiblical
3. My thoughts on the TPUSA event.
4. Charlie Kirk, the Memorial, and how I am changing
5. https://youtu.be/9rsyt_VYJZQ
6. https://youtu.be/weHo7pO6cmQ
7. About those objections to Hell…
8. https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/4103925900569325548/6413567918985767200#
9. This Is Disgusting – Why I Expose My Friend Koko and Join Mike Winger to Uncover Church Coverup
10. Why Mike Winger Started Exposing Bad Christian Leaders

Further Links

An Open Letter To Mike Winger - You're Working With The CNP and I Doubt You Know It - Part 1

https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2025/09/charlie-kirks-faith-examined.html
WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: MIKE WINGER: THE FOLLY OF SEEKING TO RESTORE FALSE PROPHETS TO MINISTRY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttJGC-lIZv8&t=4s
https://youtu.be/m1est65LcdIhttps://youtu.be/X4J0I4q0JAo
The Venom They Want Sanitized: Kirk's Own Shocking Rhetoric Unmasked
Will Mike Winger Finally Call Bill Johnson a False Teacher? | Christian Research Network
Torben Sondergaard Confused False Teacher!

Torben Sondergaard false teacher

(778) Torben Sondergaard: The Beginning of False Testimonies - YouTube