beware of ian mccormack and revelation tv

I have previously written separately about Ian McCormack and Revelation TV in some depth. Revelation TV seem intent on deceiving their viewers with false teachers such as Jesse Duplantis, John Hagee, Joyce Meyer, Pat Robertson, Ellel Ministries etc..... the list is endless. The cost of promoting things contrary to sound doctrine will be very high indeed (1 Timothy 1:3-11; Revelation 21:8). Both Howard and Leslie Conder have both admitted airing "iffy" teachers for financial gain. By blatantly putting their own interests ahead of the word of God and the eternal destiny of their hearers, the Conders are committing great wickedness. We should remember that after betraying Jesus Christ, Judas Iscariot was unable to return the money to the chief priests and elders, he could not undo what he had done (Matthew 27:3-4).

Ian McCormack is one of the more plausible false teachers around today, possibly because he seems very genuine and full of "love".  However, love and truth are inseparable, love is not real love without truth (2 Thessalonians 2:10).

http://www.revelationtv.com/programmes/episode/ian-mccormack747176

The above programme was aired originally on RTV on the 24th of June 2015. The doctrines of demons being taught by Ian McCormack are currently being repeated by RTV at regular intervals.

Ian McCormack describes what he calls "the problem of variance" or "the disintegration of unity" within the universal church. He blames the problem of disunity on non-cooperation between churches and the intransigence of individual ministries. Ian McCormack starts from the false premise that the "fivefold ministry" should be foundational and that the "new wineskin" should be operational universally. From the very beginning of this programme there are major issues with his teaching.

Ian McCormack: "The existing wineskin only provides pastoral positions."  !!!!!

Wineskins are specifically linked to the new birth, NOT TO A MINISTRY. The gospel is signified by wine, and the new wineskins are those whom the Holy Spirit regenerates (Matthew 9:17). 

Ian McCormack: "Jesus said 'The blood of the prophets is all over the church.'"    !!!!!
This is completely false. Jesus Christ was referring to the Old Testament prophets; he was addressing the Scribes and Pharisees, NOT THE CHURCH (Matthew 23:29-31).

Ian McCormack: "Barnabas was an apostle." !!!!!
Barnabas is described as an "apostle" in Acts 14:14. However, in context, the Greek word "apostolos" simply means "messenger". Barnabas was an important pioneering missionary or "messenger", but he was not an "Apostle" in the sense that Ian McCormack would have us believe. Luke made clear distinctions between Barnabas and the Twelve apostles (Acts 4:36; 9:27; 15:2, 22). These verses and others demonstrate that Luke consistently used the term "Apostle" to refer only to the Twelve. There are four lists of the Twelve in the New Testament, one in each of the three Synoptic Gospels (Matthew 10:1-4; Mark 3:13-19; Luke 6:12-16) and one in Acts 1:13 which omits Judas Iscariot. In fact Matthias was chosen to replace Judas Iscariot; Barnabus was not even a candidate for the position (Acts 1:12-26)!

Ian McCormack: "If you don't have Salvation, Pastoral Care, Teaching, Deliverance, Apostolic, Prophetic........ then you don't have the full gospel....the full gospel is the whole pack."   !!!!!

God has given us all things pertaining to life and godliness (2 Peter 1:3) without the distortions and additions of people like Ian McCormack. We already have the apostolic i.e. the apostles teaching, and we already have the prophets. Modern prophecy must be tested and should line up with the scriptures (1 John 4:1; 2 Timothy 3:16). Furthermore, the fallacy that redeemed Christians need "deliverance" is extremely dangerous. Deliverance of redeemed Christians is not taught anywhere in the scriptures; this is yet another denial of the cross of Christ from people who add to the word of God (Deuteronomy 4:2; Proverbs 30:6). http://eliora.hubpages.com/hub/THE-BIBLE-AND-INNER-HEALING-A-FOCUS-ON-ELLEL-MINISTRIES

The Key to Success: Proper Additions To Faith:

For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge, and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love. For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. For whoever lacks these qualities is so nearsighted that he is blind, having forgotten that he was cleansed from his former sins. Therefore, brothers, be all the more diligent to confirm your calling and election, for if you practice these qualities you will never fall. For in this way there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. (1 Peter 1:5-11)

Ian McCormack’s unbiblical teaching that God is restoring foundational apostles and prophets in these days puts him in broad agreement with the New Apostolic Reformation. He and other deceivers base their "fivefold" teaching on a single verse of scripture:

And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers….. (Ephesians 4:11)

In exactly what way can these new "apostles and prophets" be foundational?

The original apostles were unique, they knew Jesus Christ personally during his earthly ministry:

That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we looked upon and have touched with our hands, concerning the word of life— (1 John 1:1)

The office of "Apostle" was conditional:

"So one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, beginning from the baptism of John until the day when he was taken up from us—one of these men must become with us a witness to his resurrection.” (Acts 1: 21-22)

Ian McCormack and others who promote the "fivefold ministry" actually contradict Jesus Christ and destroy the foundation. Biblically Jesus Christ and the original apostles and prophets have (past tense) laid the foundation in defining the canon of scripture. These present day "apostles and prophets" as they refer to themselves, are usurpers, they seek to alter that foundation.

The apostles writings were infallibly inspired as the written word of God (John 14:26; 16:13; 1 Thessalonians 2:13 Ephesians 3:5). The scriptures tell us that the church is built on the foundation of the original apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone (Ephesians 2/20).  There is no evidence to support any succession to the original apostles and prophets, and there is nothing further to add to the canon of scripture as these false apostles and prophets claim. These so called "apostles" are self appointed and do things by their own authority. What Ian McCormack is doing is called revisionism, he revises the scriptures to suit his own agenda. 

So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God's household, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord… (Ephesians 2:19-21) The grammar is what we should pay particular attention to: "having been" + aorist passive participle (ἐποικοδομηθέντες) "built upon" - in other words, the foundation laid by Jesus Christ and the prophets is a completed past event.

For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. (1 Corinthians 3:11) 

If we are not building on the foundation laid by Christ and the apostles, then we are not in Christ. 

For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. (2 Corinthians 11:4)
 
..... knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. (2 Peter 1: 20-21)

The Apostle Paul had a similar dilemma with those who called themselves apostles - there is nothing new under the sun (Ecclesiastes 1:9).

And what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds. (2 Corinthians 11:12-15) 

I know your works, your toil and your patient endurance, and how you cannot bear with those who are evil, but have tested those who call themselves apostles and are not, and found them to be false. (Revelation 2:2)

The apostle Paul gives the example of Jannes and Jambres opposition to Moses in order to warn the church:

 .....having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.

Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men corrupted in mind and disqualified regarding the faith. But they will not get very far, for their folly will be plain to all, as was that of those two men. (2 Timothy 3: 5, 8-9)

"..... in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men." (Matthew 15:9)

One of the so called "apostles" Ian McCormack approves of is "gravesucker" Bill Johnson of Bethel Church, Redding CA. Johnson is one of the "apostles" who prophesied over Todd Bentley along with other false "apostles and prophets" at the "Toronto Blessing" in Florida.  What these people stand for is inconsistent with the teaching and practice of Jesus Christ and the authentic apostles.

Ian McCormack: "I am up to here with hearing the bitterness, the anger, the unforgiveness and resentment because of the problem." My response: The "problem" is that the foundations laid by Jesus Christ and the apostles are being destroyed by wolves in sheep's clothing like Ian McCormack and the hirelings who give them a platform. If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do? (Psalm 11:3) No true Christian can possibly remain within the apostate church, i.e. Babylon the great, mother of prostitutes and of earth’s abominations. (Revelation 17:5, 18:2 see also Hebrews 13:13).

The Bible bears witness that there will be massive deception in the last days. This is what is referred to as the "falling away" i.e. apostasy  (2 Thessalonians 2:3; 1Timothy 4:1; 2 Peter 2:1-3; Acts 20:29).

Ian McCormack promotes an unholy unity within the "universal church". However, God commands his faithful people to do the diametric opposite:

Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues....." (Revelation 18:4)

"Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith (faithfulness) on earth?” (Luke 18:8)

Ian McCormack's supposed numerous visits to the third heaven and his claim to a free right of access to heaven at any time is highly alarming. Some of the false teachers he has shared a platform with are Jill Austin, Heidi Baker, Bill Johnson and Todd Bentley: http://www.aglimpseofeternity.org/calendar/event.php?event=384

Further Reading:

http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/ian-mccormack-open-heaven-or-spiritual.html
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/ian-mccormack-third-heaven-spiritual.html
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/ian-mccormack-fivefold-ministry.html
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/revelation-tv-apostasy-and-occult-logo.html
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/grave-sucker-bill-johnson-to-join.html

howard conder revelation tv scraping the barrel with sharon stone prophecy

Howard Conder has done his upmost to validate his "television ministry" via Revelation TV, despite the fact that he continues to air false teachers like Jesse Duplantis, Joyce Meyer, John Hagee etc. So far Conder has not produced one credible witness to attest to the truth of claims by himself and others that he is called by God for a "special purpose".

The following deceivers have nothing to recommend them, apart from their ability to distort the word of God:  

*"Doctor" Hugh Jackman 2004. Jackman is an incompetent "pastor" on the payroll of RTV. He holds an honorary Mickey Mouse doctorate and he cannot rightly handle the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15).  
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/revelation-tv-howard-conder-twisted.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra-PPspeNQs 

*Malaysian Cult Leader "Doctor" Jonathan David 1994. 
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/revelation-tv-howard-conders-delusional.html

 *An unnamed "Man of God" 2008.
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/the-saul-syndrome-howard-conders.html 

*New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) proponent, Sharon Stone 2005. Conder is scraping the barrel in order to obtain further "verification" from Todd Bentley supporter Sharon Stone. This "prophecy" comes from yet another "Doctor" and self appointed "prophet" who is closely associated with false NAR leaders Rick Joyner, C Peter Wagner, Bob Jones, Wesley and Stacey Campbell, Cindy Jacobs and many others. 

Get ready to be impressed (not): 

"About Christian International Europe (CIE)
A kingdom expanding international ministry founded by Dr. Sharon Stone in 1996. Sharon is the
European apostle for Christian International Ministries pioneered by Dr. Bill Hamon of Santa Rosa Beach, Florida.....
Dr. Sharon Stone has been used by God to mobilize the Prophetic and Apostolic throughout the world. Through preaching, revelation, training and coordination of various national prophetic roundtables.....  She carries an authority which shifts and transforms regions. Sharon is known for her accurate and proven prophetic words that help to release individuals, churches, businesses, cities and nations into divine strategies....." 
http://www.cieurope.org/about.php  

For, speaking loud boasts of folly, they entice by sensual passions of the flesh those who are barely escaping from those who live in error. (2 Peter 2:18)

 

THE NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION (NAR)

Participation with the NAR is by definition to set oneself up in opposition to the Holy Scriptures. 

Apostolic Governance: The main claim of the NAR is Apostolic Governance, i.e the false assertion that God is restoring the offices of Apostle and Prophet as a model for church governance in the end times.

The problem with this wicked assertion is that no biblical evidence exists to indicate that the original apostles were ever to be replaced. Jesus Christ appointed the apostles to do the foundational work of the Church, and they were unique in setting the canon of scripture (Ephesians 2:20, 2 Timothy 3:16-17). These precious foundations were laid under the following criteria: 

• An apostle had to be a physical eyewitness of the resurrected Christ (Acts 1:21-22). 
• An apostle had to be personally appointed by the Lord Jesus Christ (John 6:70). 

The NAR is a movement pioneered by C Peter Wagner, who claims apostolic authority for himself as the "Presiding Apostle" over an organisation called International Coalition of Apostles (ICA). Wagner claims that he was "commissioned by God" as the "apostle" of the "second apostolic age". According to the false gospel of Wagner, “The second apostolic age began in the year 2001 when the lost offices of prophet and apostle were restored." Wagner and others say that God is giving them new revelations apart from the Bible while proclaiming that experience takes precedence over the teaching of Jesus Christ and the apostles.In short, Wagner and others have set themselves up as an antichrist usurpers! Others who claim the title of "apostle" for themselves are Rick Joyner, Mike Bickle (now leader of the spiritually corrupt International House of Prayer {IHOP}). Cindy Jacobs (Generals International), Bill Johnson (Bethel Church Redding), Che Ahn (HRock Church Pasadena) etc. ALL these apostates are proven false prophets, they do not qualify in any way to lead the true church; their prophecies are false, their teaching is aberrant and in many cases their lifestyles are unbiblical. These modern day "apostles" claim a unique position of authority, even putting themselves above the original apostles of Jesus Christ. Many of these so called "prophets and apostles" hold celebrity status; they are completely delusional, they feed off each other and are answerable to no one!

No living person today fulfils the criteria of the original apostles. Individuals may be gifted by God for certain ministries, but they cannot have that particular ministry. Wagner asserts that the gift and its fruit are recognised by peers and that the apostle is “set in” or “commissioned” to that office by other respected and qualified leaders. Wagner is of course referring to the disgraceful infestation of false apostles and unqualified leaders who "commissioned" Todd Bentley. None of these upstarts qualify as true Christian leaders and they certainly do not engender respect - they simply appoint and commission one another. 

Prophecy: By their own authority the NAR leaders claim that prophecy is "conditional" in the New Testament i.e. there is provision for a margin of error in prophecy - this is their get out clause when their prophecies fail!!! The scriptures make no distinction between Old and New Testament prophets or prophecy: But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die. (Deuteronomy 18:20, see also Deuteronomy 13:1-5; 17:12; 18:21-22; 1 Kings 18:40; Jeremiah 14:14; 23:30; 26:11; Zechariah 13:3). Any prophecy given must not contradict the Bible, and yet these deceivers claim to supersede the original apostles and prophets. Jesus Christ warned that in the end times many false prophets will arise and lead many astray (Matthew 24:11). The New Testament warns us to test prophecy and to be on our guard against spiritual deception: Matthew 7:15; 24:5; 24:24; 1 John 4:1; 2 Peter 2:1; 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21.

Dominionism: The stated aim of the NAR is for the church to literally take over society prior to the return of Christ in a similar manner to that of the Popes during the Dark Ages. This global church is to be led by an exclusive group of apostles and prophets, i.e. themselves! In fact the Bible teaches the polar opposite. Revelation 19:11-21 makes it clear that JESUS CHRIST (NOT THE CHURCH) will achieve dominion on the earth (Revelation 22:19).

Wagner: "When Jesus came, He brought the kingdom of God and He expects His kingdom-minded people to take whatever action is needed to push back the long-standing kingdom of Satan and bring the peace and prosperity of His kingdom here on earth." Compare this statement with Matthew 10:24; Luke 12:51; Matthew 5:10; Mark 13:19 etc.

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/31851-the-new-apostolic-reformation-is-not-a-cult

The above is just the tip of the iceberg, there are many more problems associated with the NAR.

Sharon Stone's prophecy over Todd Bentley's "commissioning":

“Todd , the Spirit of God says years from now people will look at this time and they will recognise it as when their God showed up and created within the church a new heart says the Lord. And I will genesis in the midst of the chaos in the world today I will not just bring forth a mending I will bring forth that which is new that which is dedicated that which is decided that which is pure and I will heal the corruptness of the heart says God and the lord says this is the heart that I will not despise as David cried unto me 'don’t take your Holy Spirit from me,' I have released a cry within my church says the Lord that has the gift to release its desperateness and said I can’t live without your presence, I can’t live without your glory, I’m down and I’m naked without your presence , no program will be a substitute and the Spirit of God says, ‘history, says the Lord ,’ will measure it by heart.”

The only thing that has come out of the "ministry" of Todd Bentley is false teaching, unverified healings and deception. During the Lakeland false "outpouring" (and even when he was "commissioned") Bentley was having an extramarital affair with Jessa Hasbrook.

All the usual heretics were present at Todd Bentley's "commissioning" on June 23, 2008:

Ché Ahn, pastor of Harvest Rock Church in Pasadena, Calif.; John Arnott of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship in Canada; Bill Johnson, pastor of Bethel Church in Redding, Calif.; laid hands on Bentley approving him into their fold. It was called a true sign of unity by many. Peter Wagner called this “The Alignment Ceremony” where a total of 17 "apostles" participated (on stage) representing three apostolic streams: ICA, Revival Alliance, and Morning Star.

Participating leaders at the unholy ceremony included Rick Joyner, founder of MorningStar Ministries  Ken Greter  who announced C. Peter Wagner, Che Ahn, Bill Johnson, John Arnott, Stephen Strader, Karl Strader, Jeff Beecham, Rick Joyner, Doris Wagner, Joseph Garlington, Sharon Stone, Paco Garcia, Clarice Fluitt, Richard Maiden, Mike Maiden, Joshua Fowler, Barry Bouchet, Wesley Campbell.

 Statement from the Board of Directors, Fresh Fire Ministries 15the August 2008:

 “We wish to acknowledge, however, that since our last statement from the Fresh Fire Board of Directors, we have discovered new information revealing that Todd Bentley has entered into an unhealthy relationship on an emotional level with a female member of his staff. In light of this new information and in consultation with his leaders and advisors, Todd Bentley has agreed to step down from his position on the Board of Directors and to refrain from all public ministry for a season to receive counsel in his personal life.”
http://www.freshfire.ca/?Id=1052&pid=993




 

But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. (2 Peter 2:1)

An appalling and horrible thing has happened in the land: the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule at their direction; my people love to have it so, but what will you do when the end comes? (Jeremiah 5:30-31)

Further Reading:
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/newapostolic.html 

hillsong deception: jesus was not in the thick of an era where homosexuality was widely prevalent!!!!!

"Jesus was in the thick of an era where homosexuality, just like it is today, was widely prevalent."  Carl Lentz New York City Hill$ong Pastor. 

THIS IS A GROSSLY DISHONEST STATEMENT

Jesus Christ was definitely NOT in the thick of an era where homosexuality was widely prevalent!!!! Jesus declared explicitly that his mission was focused on Israel (Matthew 15:24). The Jews DID NOT engage in the practices of the surrounding nations where homosexuality and paedophilia were widely practiced.  

HOMOSEXUALITY WAS EMPHATICALLY CONDEMNED BY THE JEWISH TRADITION!

For Jews living in the first century, homosexuality was taboo. The biblical prohibition against a male lying with a male as though with a woman (Leviticus 20:13) was at the very heart of Jewish morality. This explains why Jesus Christ never addressed the sin of homosexuality directly as he did other sins, for instance, adultery; it is reasonable to suppose that he did not come across it!

The author of the Syballine Oracles, thought to be an Egyptian Jew (approx. 163 - 45 B.C.) "The Jews are mindful of holy wedlock, and they do not engage in impious intercourse with male children, as do Phoenicians, Egyptians, and Romans, specious Greece and many nations of others, Persians and Galatians and all Asia."  http://www.conservapedia.com/History_of_homosexuality#Homosexuality_among_the_Jews

Josephus: "But then, what are our laws about marriage? That law owns no other mixture of sexes but that which nature hath appointed, of a man with his wife, and that this be used only for the procreation of children. But it abhors the mixture of male with male; and if anyone do that, death is his punishment." (Against Apion 2.25)

Perhaps Lentz would like to produce evidence to back up his ridiculous statement which infers that homosexuality was widely prevalent within first century Judaism? 

JESUS CHRIST AFFIRMED THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS!

Jesus Christ: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfil them.” (Matthew 5:17)

Jesus Christ: “But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one dot of the Law to become void.” (Luke 16:17)

Leviticus 18 forbids various types of unlawful sexual relations calling them “unclean” - verse 22 explicitly calls homosexuality an abomination as does Leviticus 20:13).

Jesus Christ's affirmation that marriage is between a man and a woman: “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh." (Matthew 19:3-6; Genesis 2:24)

Being then God’s offspring, we ought not to think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of man. The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent, because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.”  (Acts 17:29-31)

But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” (Revelation 21:8)

THE BIBLE AND HOMOSEXUALITY

·You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:2)

·If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)

·For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error. (Romans 1:26-27)

·Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites..... (1 Corinthians 6:9)

·This means understanding that the law is laid down not for the innocent but for the lawless and disobedient, for the godless and sinful, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their father or mother, for murderers, fornicators, sodomites, slave traders, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to the sound teaching. (1 Timothy 1:9-10)

THE DAYS OF LOT

The days of Lot were defined by sexual immorality and rampant homosexuality just prior to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Jesus Christ warns us that the world will be just the same in the end times prior to his second coming. Now is the time for church leaders to warn about the coming judgement rather than compromising with the world to fit in with societal fluctuations.

Likewise, just as it was in the days of Lot—they were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building..... (Luke 1:28).

They (Sodom and her daughters) were haughty and did an abomination before me. So I removed them, when I saw it. (Ezekiel 16:50)

Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which, in the same manner as they, indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural lust (perversion), serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire. (Jude 1:7)

…… they called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, so that we may know (be intimate with) them." Lot went out of the door to the men, shut the door after him, and said, "I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly." (Genesis 19:5-7)

HILL$ONG MEMBERS BEWARE!  The feel-good factor at HILL$ONG has nothing to do with Biblical Christianity!

Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues; (Revelation 18:4)

 Further Reading:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2010/aug/09/gay-orthodox-judaism-rabbis
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67257147/Hillsong_Gay_Couple.pdf
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=34483
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=34541 

IN DEFENCE OF ANDREW STROM AND IN RESPONSE TO RANDY CLARK BY JACOB PRASCH

Jacob Prasch of Moriel Ministries describes David Carr, Senior Pastor of the Renewal Centre in Solihull as "the quintessential theological ignoramus of the UK". Carr was the mentor of the now disgraced adulterer Richard Taylor, the instigator of the fake 'Welsh Outpouring' in the UK. Vineyard "Pastor" Randy Clark is of course a well known false bible teacher who has relentlessly promoted the strange fire of Toronto for a number of years.

"Moriel picketed Randy Clark's fiasco in the Midlands of England when he attempted to introduce his deceptive bill of goods assisted by the colossal hype artistry of David Carr whom we regard as the quintessential theological ignoramus of the UK.

Some time later I authored and published a rebuttal to the pseudo scholarly nonsense propounded by Dr. Craig in his defence of the Toronto / Pensacola debacle as academically and factually hideous and devoid of any real scriptural or historical support. Craig's outlandish efforts to use the teaching of the unbelieving Neo Aristotelian rabbi Rambam ( Moses Maimonides) from the Middle Ages to theologically justify Todd Bentley's claims of angelic visitations by a female angel named 'Emma' were beyond any semblance of exegetically interpreted Christian dogma and in fact even beyond the proverbial 'pale'. Whether Craig's polemic aimed at the opponents of Todd Bentley was even the product of a rational mind, we are not sure. But we are sure with uttermost certainty that The ludicrous nature of his remarks appear to have bordered on theological lunacy and academically impalpable and an exhibition of scholarly charlatanism. It is not my goal to revile, but in contemplating Dr. Craig's apologia I could find no euphemism for its patently moronic content.

Craig is the product of the ministry of Jack Heyford who jumped to the defence of Oral Roberts' after Robert's claim that a 900 foot tall Jesus Christ was going to murder him if he did not come up with 6 million dollars required to save his now defunct medical facility by the end of the month. In the same article also defended the late Paul Crouch in the TBN scandals before the 425,000 dollars secrecy clause settlement about homosexual charges concerning Crouch were disclosed in three days of front page exposure by the Los Angeles Times.

The August of 1990 visit by John Wimber, Mike Bickel, and the Kansas City prophets in which the 'latter day rain' revival for England spreading to Germany was prophetically predicted for October if that year has witnessed only the construction of more mosques in England than churches with the result of the publicly proven false prophecies being a moral avalanche in Britain - not a revival, and with Kansas City prophet Paul Caine admitting to being a drunken homosexual and Bob Jones a womaniser. Since when has immorality been the hallmark of revival? Failed prophetic prediction that was time specific and made in God's Name however are according to God's Word in Deuteronomy 18 etc. the unmistakeable signatures of the false prophets whom Jesus warned would be increasingly dispensed from hell to mislead the elect prior to His return.

The Toronto fiasco was no revival either, and the ecumenical deception of the late John Wimber and the contra scriptural notion that The Holy Spirit led charismatic Catholics to remain in the Roman church and continue in the idolatry of transubstantiation, the necromancy of praying to the dead, and the false gospel of sacramental regeneration is ludicrous. Randy Clark is and consistently has been a deceiver with a lying spirit raised up by Satan as an apologist for counterfeit revival who acts in the devil's service. I state this as a firm believer in Spirit Baptism and charismata by both theology and experience myself. The Pensacola deception which ended in an ugly split and a public financial scandal and the adultery and family abandonment by the head to toe tattoo clad Todd Bentley (who is banned from Australia and Great Britain after kicking elderly ladies in the face) during and after the Lakeland pandemonium which Clark defends, further demonstrates that he is but a servant of the father of lies. Efforts to attribute Third world church growth in areas of Asia thousands of miles away from Toronto and Lakeland where the momentum of that growth preceded these false revivals in the West by Randy Clark are as absurd as they are dishonest.

I remain available to publicly debate either Dr. Craig or Randy Clark challenging their advocacy of these counterfeit moves of God on front of a video camera, and Moriel affirms the doctrinal and factual validity of the statements made in this regard by Andrew Strom, who is guilty of nothing. more than telling the honest truth and upholding The Word of God.

Contrary to Toronto, Lakeland etc., the Fruit if The Spirit is 'ekreitei' , that is 'Self Control', not the lack of it. Nothing matching authentic scriptural or historical patterns or definitions of revival emerged from these demonically infiltrated counterfeits . These bogus combinations of the carnal and demonic were predicated on deception, hypnotic induction, and false if not heretical doctrine all of which was merchandised by religious connivers, defended by religious liars , and believed only by the deluded proponents of a religious idiocy that was ignorantly and often hypocritically misrepresented as a genuine outpouring of God's Spirit in the character of early Methodism. A cursory reading of Daniel Roland's history of The a Great revival ( misquoted by Guy Chevreau) reveals that John Wesley labelled the 'holy laughter' not as holy but as 'devilish' - identifying it as a satanic attempt to thwart and contaminate anything truly of God.

Scripturally and historically revivals commenced with people weeping, but none with people laughing. Drunken hysterics, immorality, financial con artistry (now Todd Bentley claims visitation by an angel called 'international banker') are not 'ekreitei', and huge numbers saved as the result of what transpires in a revival never transpired in Toronto or Lakeland. Rather Rick Joyner, Bill Johnson, Che An, and C. Peter Warner made televised false prophetic predictions concerning Todd Bentley who was at the time engaged in an adulterous relationship and a few days later left his handicapped Christian wife and three children to run off with his immoral woman whom he has since married in what God calls adultery and she is now making more crazed alleged 'prophecies' with him under the 'rehabilitation' of the proven false prophet Rick Joyner. This was the only true fruit of Lakeland before scandal saw that haunt if demons fold up and close down amidst the notorious history of the Strader family one of whom is in prison as a swindler for 30 years. No one in their right mind can call such moral debauchery a revival. But in his assault on Andrew Strom this is precisely what Randy Clark poses to do, this is sick.

My challenge to confront Randy Clark in open recorded debate stand and I thank The Lord for the brethren such as Andrew Strom and a few others like him who by the grace of Jesus saw through the erroneous nature of the deception in which they were once ensconced and in the case of Andrew , who has had the integrity to tell the honest, factual, and scriptural truth concerning it.

In Jesus,

James Jacob Prasch Moriel"

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Further Reading:
http://watchman4wales.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/dr-david-carr-senior-pastor-of-renewal.html
http://www.banner.org.uk/tb/toronto1.html
http://www.inplainsite.org/html/toronto_deception.html