PULPIT AND PEN'S BIG SCOOP ON SERVUS CHRISTI: GUTTER PRESS TACTICS

Servus Christi Imports Bride, Fakes Marriage, Sends Her Back After Consummation

https://pulpitandpen.org/2020/08/24/servus-christi-imports-bride-fakes-marriage-sends-her-back-after-consummation/

Associated video: https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/ v=250034606276108&ref=watch_permalink

JD Hall's article and associated video above amounts nothing less than degenerate tabloid newspaper style gossip, supposition and speculation. The scoop was preceded by a tacky countdown clock to "The Terminus of Servus Christi" (aka Joshua Chavez) promising to reveal his life of sin ~ or in JD Hall's terms “beating the weeds”. 

I do not dispute that Joshua Chavez is a wily character and is someone to be avoided. His dogged support for Jacob Prasch is insupportable. He willfully ignores Prasch's theological errors and abuses while at the same time mercilessly attacking others. Chavez's support for Prasch may benefit him in some way, although ultimately I believe it will prove to be a snare. (Jeremiah 5:31). Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God? (Romans 2:3).

Despite his double standards, his obvious anger issues and his dubious motives, Chavez's exposure of various Calvinists has been accurate on many levels. Although I am convinced that Chavez is not approved by God, it seems clear that God has used him in a certain way to expose many things that have gone unchecked in the Calvinist camp. These recent exposures of the double standards and rank hypocrisy of the Calvinists are not before time! 

JD Hall has Chavez down as a "sectarian minimalist heretic". While that may be true in Chavez's case, Hall is wrong to condemn countless numbers of Christians worldwide who have given up on their "local church" due to blatant apostasy. In my own immediate area there is a choice between various ecumenical denominations, including the Anglican Church, Pentecostal (AG) and a Calvinist church who teach against eternal damnation amongst other heresies. In other words there is no choice! My own understanding of a valid church: For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.” (Matthew 18:29). What does Hall suggest these countless numbers of Christians do for fellowship without compromising the gospel? What does Hall define as "heretical" when his own camp are so very far off the mark? I refer to John MacArthur's advice that people can take the mark of the beast and be saved.. and Phil Johnson's waffling on the subject. I refer to Doreen Virtue's demonic vision of Jesus which was accepted by Lutheran pastor Chris Rosebrough and others until Chavez challenged it. Chris Rosebrough's heretical beliefs and practices include infant baptism, baptismal regeneration, consubstantiation, amillennialism, confession to a priest ~ and yet he is unquestionably accepted by the Calvinists. The Calvinists are a bit like the Freemasons, they always back each other up irrespective of the truth, and they never admit that they are in the wrong. {2} Justin Peters is the only Calvinist I have known to admit that he was wrong and I exclude him from these remarks. 

AND SO TO THE BIG SCOOP

Let's examine the details:

JD Hall has made full use of the woman's testimony that Chavez is a human trafficker. 

JD Hall: "Little did any of us know that amidst these videos and tirades, Chavez was trafficking in humans, using women for sex and money.."  Notice that JD Hall uses plural nouns (i.e. humans ~  women). In reality Hall has ONE woman's own perception of her experience. We need to see solid evidence that Chavez was actually involved in human trafficking rather than basing our opinion on the negative experience of one woman and the suppositions of JD Hall:

“I honestly think he is an evil man and God knows his intentions may be that of a human trafficker.”

"The woman is currently seeking to restore their marriage, even if it can be rightly characterized as 'human trafficking.'”

The woman would have a very difficult time legally proving a charge of "human trafficking" against Chavez. According to the Human Rights Commission the three most common types of human trafficking are sex trafficking, forced labor, and debt bondage. "Some survivors are 'mail-order' brides who believe they are going to a new country for marriage, but instead are enslaved." {1} This woman was not "enslaved". 

JD Hall says that the woman had professional job in South Africa.. and then he contradicts himself saying that her job was not that lucrative.

Apparently Chavez's motive apart from sex was "desiring that she work in a professional field in order to finance his ministry", but her three month visa did not allow her to get a job in the US. This does not make sense. Why did the woman obtain a temporary visa if she intended to marry Chavez and stay in the country?

JD Hall: "Reportedly, Chavez’s mother is overbearing and 'controls him.' " (this is gossip ~ 2 Corinthians 12:20).

JD Hall: "Allegedly, the young woman had a fair amount of financial savings."

If this allegation is correct, then the woman was by no means vulnerable or in a position of powerlessness. 

So essentially we have an attractive professional woman with a fair amount of financial savings travelling to the US from South Africa on a three month visa to marry Chavez after a short internet romance, knowingly participating in a fake marriage, going on "honeymoon" and sleeping with Chavez, and then playing the victim. The woman says that Chavez has the "Jezebel spirit" and is "an evil man". And she wants to reconcile with him! What woman in her right mind would want to restore a fake marriage with an evil man and a human trafficker? Why would an attractive professional woman with money be so desperate or stupid to do such a thing? The whole thing is totally bizarre!  This woman's story would not stand up in court.

When I mentioned these things to JD Hall on his website comments he responded by calling me a "victim blaming sycophant" and then followed up with a GIF saying "I'm your Huckleberry" (whatever that means).

Tim Wirth obviously agrees:

  

WHERE ARE THE FACTS JD HALL?

Hall: "While rumors have circulated for over a year that Chavez recently had a live-in girlfriend (while working for Moriel) with whom he soon eloped and then immediately divorced, we were unable to verify that information. That is, we were unable to verify the information until her concerned friends from various support groups reached out to us with their desperate pleas for help. We have since been able to verify their accounts through various sources to the best of our journalistic ability. And we have cross-referenced those accounts with correspondence sent us that originated directly from his female victim. But the story is even worse than has been whispered."

Every charge must be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. (2 Corinthians 13:1).

JD Hall has obtained his information from various "support groups" whom he describes as "concerned friends" rather than from the woman herself. I believe the purpose of JD Hall's "countdown clock" may have been to draw her out, but as far as I am aware she has not contacted him personally. It appears that this woman has been abused by two predators, once allegedly by Chavez, and once by JD Hall, who has published this information without her consent.  

To conclude: JD Hall has scored an own goal in his self righteous exposure of Chavez. As Christians, we need to see provable facts before we make any kind of judgement in this matter. (1 Peter 2:1). 

1. https://sf-hrc.org/what-human-trafficking#What%20is
2. http://johnmacarthur.forumchitchat.com/post/is-john-macarthur-a-master-of-the-craft-10065826

FURTHER LINKS:

https://www.redeemingmoments.com/2015/03/13/the-total-depravity-of-certain-calvinists/?fbclid=IwAR0tp6b7PgBc8jZTo8OZrlX1JHZR8xsWgZ1iPHw79vE8-YfWd3jie5qIKAY

https://peterlumpkins.typepad.com/peter_lumpkins/2013/08/jonathan-edwards-on-the-damnation-of-infants.html

DOREEN VIRTUE ~ SERVUS CHRISTI STRIKES AGAIN!

Once again, Servus Christi/Joshua Chavez leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth with his vicious attack on Justin Peters. In the original video (now removed), Chavez repeated the slander that Justin Peters approves of New Age visions and teachings. (2 Timothy 3:3). Doreen Virtue claims to have completely renounced the New Age Movement. {1} Although Chavez's attitude leaves a lot to be desired, his update does bring up some points of concern about Doreen Virtue that are not easily dismissed.

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Doreen Virtue Damage Control & Deception

Servus Chrisi ~ 13th May 2020

About Doreen Virtue:
"Doreen Virtue holds a B.A. and M.A. in Counseling Psychology from Chapman University. She is the author of many books, including the daily devotional, “Mornings with the Lord” and “Sweet Dreams Scripture,” and the “Loving Words from Jesus Cards.” Her newest book, “The Joy of Jesus,” is available as a free ebook download at bit.ly/TheJoyofJesus – This book tells the story of why Doreen converted from new age to Christianity. The book is also available in paperback on amazon. Raised in the new age, Doreen had a profound vision of Jesus on January 7, 2017 that led to her getting baptized and converting to Christianity. During the entire year of 2018, she led a daily online Bible support and encouragement group on Instagram Live, and on Vimeo. She is now enrolled in full-time Bible study, as learning and applying the Word of God is her highest priority." {2}

Doreen is a relatively new believer (?) who claims to have come to faith in 2017. Unfortunately she has fallen foul of the grievous error of Calvinism. Assuming that Doreen is a genuine Christian, it is far too soon to be launching herself into the public domain as a person of influence or to consider becoming a teacher.

Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness. (James 3:1).

Regarding overseers: He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. (1 Timothy 3:6).

I know from my own bitter experience in charismania that it takes time, often years, to rid oneself of the errors of false Antichrist systems masquerading as Christianity, and I include Calvinism in that classification. Calvinism is a form of philosophy that deceptively embeds error into the scriptures. In addition, many Calvinists (e.g. John MacArthur) teach the dangerous false pre-trib rapture doctrine and the "once saved always saved" error. New believers are a vulnerable target for Satan. (2 Corinthians 11:14). Another issue for me is that Doreen Virtue is probably not her real name.* I do not see anyone in the scriptures going by another name. My advice to Doreen: Pull back from what you are doing and study the scriptures independently of the Calvinists. (2 Timothy 2:15).

Like newborn infants, long for the pure spiritual milk, that by it you may grow up into salvation— (1 Peter 2:2).

UPDATE:

Both Doreen Virtue and Justin Peters have responded to Joshua Chavez's accusations (links below). These responses appear to confirm that Doreen has renounced anything New Age. I would reiterate that if Doreen is a genuine Christian (?) then she is relatively young in the Lord. As such she should stay out of the public domain until she becomes more mature. It is a humiliating thing to make ones mistakes so publicly, if indeed this was a mistake. I am still unclear why Doreen left certain material on her website that should have been removed long ago. Although I would like to give Doreen the benefit of the doubt, there are some inconsistencies surrounding her testimony that do not add up. I do not endorse Joshua Chavez, but in this particular instance, I have to agree that Doreen Virtue is either extremely confused or that she is a false teacher.

Doreen Virtue Damage Control Deceiver
https://www.bitchute.com/video/oiE4gLfdv7Hh/?fbclid=IwAR09P22Gd3IavfSrE9ApBW1DASMvlBB0GgKOOpF9r95IaLRAg26qoWBWczo

Doreen answers questions about her testimony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34F4VdZwdAU&t=1146s

Justin Peters: My Response to Joshua Chavez Proverbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-pTsqKrlUU&t=6334s


* https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=servus%20christi&epa=SEARCH_BOX

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d4ZrPVrbII

2. https://doreenvirtue.com/about-doreen-virtue/
3. https://www.westernsem.edu/

Further Links:

Doreen Virtue Bio, Age, Husband, Family, Books, Education And Net worth

https://informationcradle.com/doreen-virtue/

Doreen Virtue Promotes Steve Bancarz Chris Rosebrough Exposes Steve Bancarz Luther and Calvin Xpose
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OqN3gEPj5ow&t=503s

THE REASON FILES: REGARDING SERVUS CHRIST, PART THREE

The following is an excerpt from The Reason Files:

https://reasonfiles.weebly.com/blog/regarding-servus-christi-part-three

"In the third and final part of this article series concerning Mr. Joshua Chavez (aka: “Servus Christi”), we will take a look at his hypocritical “Do As I Say, Not As I Do” methodology for determining who is an apostate.

Please see the latest on this three part series: Servus Christi Updated, where I respond to a lengthy defense of Servus Christi, written at his behest by one of his friends.

Concerns, Part Three
D. Hypocrisy
In addition to presenting Mr. Chavez with all of the above evidence of his sin, I also attempted to demonstrate to him the hypocrisy of his actions by applying the standards and logic he applies to the numerous Christian brothers mentioned above, to himself.
As noted in the introduction, Mr. Chavez claims he is exposing apostasy in the Church. However, as also shown, he has not done this. Not once. In fact, his exposés are nothing more than strawman arguments and ad hominem red herring fallacies. He condemns person A because they appear at a conference or in a photo with person B, who in turn has appeared at a conference or in a photo with person C who may or may not be a false teacher, or is somehow affiliated with a false teacher. This is guilt by association twice removed. As faulty a methodology as this is, it is the methodology Mr. Chavez has chosen to employ; and, in doing so he has exposed his own hypocrisy.
I have dubbed the red-herring methodology used by Mr. Chavez the “Servus Christi Rule of Partnerships and Affiliations.” As you will see, when Mr. Chavez and his own affiliations and partnerships are examined by using his own methodology, his hypocrisy becomes glaringly evident.
On his website, Beginning of Sorrows, Mr. Chavez recommends both Jacob Prasch and Moriel Ministries, as well as Beresford Job.

Now, as it just so happens, Beresford Job, on his Truth According to Scripture website, promotes John Piper, Paul Washer, and John MacArthur. By employing the “Servus Christi Rule of Partnerships and Affiliations,” we see Mr. Chavez, is therefore partnered with John Piper, Paul Washer, and John MacArthur via Beresford Job. Of course, Mr. Chavez has soundly (and falsely) condemned these men as apostates, frauds, false teachers, deceivers, hypocrites, and more; so his apparent partnership with them is not only hypocritical, but somewhat schizophrenic as well.

Far more interesting (and telling) is Mr. Chavez's personal, intimate, and open partnership with James Jacob Prasch and Moriel Ministries. Since Mr. Chavez recommends Mr. Prasch on his website, we can again employ the “Servus Christi Rule of Partnerships and Affiliations” to ascertain his actual involvement with Jacob Prasch. I have noted that throughout his various internet venues (blog, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook) Mr. Chavez speaks glowingly of his close personal friend Jacob Prasch. To quote Mr. Chavez, “I highly recommend following/supporting the ministry of Moriel TV and James Jacob Prasch.” Mr. Chavez calls him, “Balanced and indespensible,” “without compromise,” “Excellent teaching,” and “I don't recommend people lightly.” To further remind you of the importance of your intimate partnership with Jacob Prasch, I offer another verbatim quote from Mr. Chavez: “There is no guilt by 'association' but by APPROVAL. WATCH!” and his approval and recommendation of James Jacob Prasch defines his approval, recommendation and partnership with those Mr. Prasch is partnered with.
To begin with, let's look at Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel. Jacob Prasch calls Chuck Smith his “friend and brother,” “solidly supporting” Chuck Smith's positions, defending him against any and all critics. It should also be noted that Mr. Chavez also speaks glowingly of Chuck Smith as well. On his blog he writes of Chuck Smith, “Smith was known for being a verse by verse bible teacher.” Based on his approval of Chuck Smith, Mr. Chavez has clearly aligned himself with Chuck Smith as well; and that brings us back to the “Servus Christi Rule of Partnerships and Affiliations,”
Chuck Smith held Rick Warren in high regard, calling Warren a “brother in Christ,” and stating that he had no problem sharing a stage with him. This is the same Rick Warren who has affiliated himself with both Islam and the Vatican. That places Mr. Chavez only one degree of separation away from Rick Warren. The fact that Mr. Chavez judges and condemns others for doing the same thing that he himself has done exposes Mr. Chavez as a hypocrite.
In his last email to me, Mr. Chavez tried to explain away Chuck Smith's affiliation with Rick Warren by saying, “As for Chuck Smith, he entertained Rick Warren ONCE in 2009 at 82 years of age a few years before his death at a time when Rick Warren was not well known nor established in his ecumenism.” And yet, this isn't true. In fact, it is a bald-faced lie. Rick Warren was quite well known when he shared a stage with Chuck Smith at the Calvary Chapel 20 year anniversary “Harvest Crusade” on August 16, 2009. Warren had published his best selling book, The Purpose Driven Church, in 1995. He followed this up with another best seller, The Purpose Driven Life, in 2002. To say Chuck Smith was unaware of Rick Warren would also be untrue, as Smith denounced Rick Warren in 2006. A statement released by Smith's church stated, “The teachings and positions of Rick Warren have come into conflict with us at Calvary Chapel. Pastor Chuck has directed us to discontinue this product [Purpose Driven Life] effective immediately.”
Furthermore, on April 17, 2005 Rick Warren launched his ecumenical “Global P.E.A.C.E. Plan” before a crowd of 30,000 people in Angel's stadium in Anaheim, California. On January 20, 2009 Rick Warren appeared at President Barack Obama's inauguration where he publicly prayed to the Islamic “Isa;” and, on July 4, 2009 Warren appeared at the 2009 ISNA Conference addressing upward of 40,000 Muslims. By the time Chuck Smith shared a stage with Rick Warren on August 16, 2009, Rick Warren and his ecumenism were both well known and well established. And yet, none of this served to dissuade Chuck Smith, a man whom both Mr. Chavez and his close friend Jacob Prasch held in high regard (and whom Prasch was intimate friends with), from reversing his condemnation of Rick Warren, and embracing Warren as a Christian brother and a friend.."

Further parts can be seen on  https://reasonfiles.weebly.com/blog

SERVUS CHRISTI MORIEL TV: THOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS!!!

Servus Christi is one of those unfortunate people who takes great glee in causing trouble and distorting information in order to hurt others. One of his latest efforts:

"John MacArthur has decided to unite with Pastor Rick Warren and many other heretical deceivers at an upcoming conference. John MacArthur's compromises are many and now it is becoming apparent to everyone. Apostasy is upon us and waxing worse daily."
https://youtu.be/Unl47deUKm8

John MacArthur IS NOT sharing a platform or partnering with Rick Warren. However, Jacob Prasch DEFINITELY IS sharing a platform with ecumenist David Noakes at Moriel's Scottish Conference in November. {1}

I loathe Calvinism and I am no fan of John MacArthur. However, to make slanderous accusations against anyone is to dishonour the name of Jesus Christ.

I originally thought that Servus Christi aka Joshua Chavez was delusional in his support for Jacob Prasch/Moriel whom he now works for as an administrator. I have changed my mind. Chavez is just the right person to carry out Moriel's dirty work. Chavez's speculative "guilt by association", is nothing more than mischief making. The same is true of Moriel TV's depiction of David Nathan whom Chavez compares with Benny Hinn complete with photoshopped image. Once again, I do not like David Nathan's teaching, but these tactics are deliberately destructive. If we are going to accuse anyone, we need at least two or three witnesses, not photoshopped pictures and distorted information. These things do not glorify God! (Colossians 3:17).

Servus Christi means Servant of Christ. However in this particular instance nothing could be further from the truth. 

For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. These are what defile a person. (Matthew 15:19-20).

Phil Johnson quoted on Wretched Radio 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPmRfqLRlFc&feature=youtu.be

{1} https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2018/09/jacob-prasch-david-noakes-moriel.html

A CHALLENGE FOR SERVUS CHRISTI!

Servus Christi's website is http://beginningofsorrows.org/ The name of Servus Christi is Joshua Chavez, although he is also known by various other names.

Chavez has written a number of posts about what is known as "secondary separation" aka "guilt by association", implicating Calvinist teachers Paul Washer, John MacArthur John Piper and Justin Peters. Pupit and Pen have responded to these accusations: Demolishing Servus Christi with Two Screenshots, stating "..this is more akin to the game 'Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon,' than sound exegesis."{1}

The doctrine of separation is a dominant theme throughout the scriptures. The prohibition of participation in, and identification with, blatant godlessness and unbelief is an undeniable biblical imperative. This imperative is undoubtedly applicable to fellow believers and compromised Christian ministries: 2 Thessalonians 3:6,14; Romans 16:17 1 Corinthians 5:1–1.

If the above teachers have had some kind of secondary association with ecumenicals, this should not surprise us at all, since their primary error is Calvinism. This means that their biblical understanding of soteriology is skewed on a fundamental level. Until this error is addressed and rectified, then we should expect further errors to follow. The fact that these so called "teachers" are Calvinists, is, by itself, sufficient reason to separate from them, since soteriology is a primary issue i.e. limited atonement quite literally limits the gospel of Jesus Christ! (2 Corinthians 11:4).

I have read some good articles on Beginning of Sorrows, but Chavez does not seem to engage in any kind of deep theological study or discussion, rather he focuses on surface issues and emotional responses.

Unfortunately Chavez's endorsement of Jacob Prasch is misplaced. If only believers would take the time and trouble to study the scriptures as we are exhorted to do, Prasch's error would become obvious. (2 Timothy 2:15).

To reiterate the error of Prasch's intra-seal theory: He erroneously merges three primary passages of scripture incorporating the "birth pangs" motif, namely, the Olivet Discourse Matthew 24:9, 21, 29; Revelation 12 and John 16:20-22.

These three passages illustrate three completely different scenarios:

• Mathew 24 refers to the beginning of sorrows (birth pains) as worldwide phenomena during the first half of the 70th week of Daniel, inflicted by the four horsemen of the apocalypse. (Revelation 6).
• Revelation 12 refers to the woman, Israel, and the birth of Jesus Christ.
• John 16:20-22 refers to the birth of the church. John did not primarily address the end times as per the synoptic gospels because he wrote the book of Revelation. Revelation is a confirmation of Matthew 24.

A text without a context is a pretext for a proof text.

The discussion on Facebook copied below demonstrates Chavez's staunch support for Prasch. In one respect this is admirable, since we should support good bible teachers. However in this particular instance, I do recommend that Chavez undertakes a comprehensive study the above passages in order to "test the spirits", and to "prove all things", rather than summarily rejecting any doubts expressed about Prasch without considering the evidence. (1 John 4:1; 1 Thessalonians 5:21). If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame. (Proverbs 18:13). I do in fact understand Chavez's position. I also supported Prasch for a number of years until the details of intra-seal became problematic for me. A number of Prasch's followers have informed me that they simply "do not understand" intra-seal. This no excuse. We are to pay close attention to doctrines. (1 Timothy 4:16). Even a little study in this area will reveal the flaws in Prasch's convoluted theory.

Why is the intra-seal theory so dangerous? 

• Intra-seal denies the presence of the Holy Spirit in the world for the entire 70th week of Daniel. Whoever the Restrainer of 2 Thessalonians 2:6-7 is, he is not taken out of the way until the mid point of the "week". (Daniel 9:27).
• Intra-seal denies conviction of sin in unbelievers for the entire 70th Week of Daniel.
• Intra-seal denies the Gospel of Jesus Christ for this entire seven year period of time. (Revelation 14:6).
• Intra-seal is disinformation. It is Prasch's attempt to add to the confusion already surrounding the subject of the rapture amongst believers. In my view this is a deliberate ploy to create uncertainty and spiritual blindness as we enter the 70th week.

Prasch appears to be an "impressive" teacher in certain respects. However, when someone teaches serious error on such an important subject as eschatology, it throws their whole ministry into doubt. (1 Corinthians 5:6).

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. (Revelation 22:18-19 cf. Proverbs 30:6).

Joshua Chavez, I believe that you are suffering from a severe case of cognitive dissonance where Prasch is concerned. You have dismissed the evidence presented in response to a specific claim by continually demanding some other (unfulfillable) piece of evidence. Obviously I could not present a comprehensive argument against intra-seal on FB comments. Closed-minded, defensive, truth-resistant people often shoot the messenger and hide their head in the sand.. this attitude is definitely not recommended for someone claiming to be in the discernment ministry! I have tried to respond to you graciously, and I hope that you will undertake some serious bible study in this area rather than responding on a superficial level as you did on FB. God bless you.

Servus Christi

· 20 July at 22:24 · 

If you do not already, I highly recommend following/supporting the ministry of Moriel TV and James Jacob Prasch. Balanced and indispensable bible teaching for these days will be found here without compromise. You can find MorielTV on Roku, Vimeo and YouTube. I don't recommend people lightly.

Here is one such excellent teaching about the state of affairs in the church today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFi1ypzIFJU

Why We Left and Why We Came-Hayes First Session-Jacob Prasch

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Comments

Moriel TV Why thank you good sir

Servus Christi I wouldn't feed someone a meal I wouldn't eat myself. Good "food" to be found at Moriel. Thank you.

Mike Scarborough Thanks!

I’m new to him but starting listening since I first heard you mention him.

Kristin Kiger Kernan I would add David Nathan, YouTube channel is his name, and Bill Randles at Believers in Grace YouTube channel.

Helen Morris I have been listening to James for the last couple of years and enjoy his commentaries. One of the most solid teachers I have come across.

Leslie Osterthaler Couldn’t agree more, the TRUTH of the WORD is found with this ministry and it’s solid teachings!

Paula Coyle oh my gosh no. Please no. These guys are as bad or worse than the guys you have been exposing. This is incredibly disappointing.

Servus Christi In what way? Please be specific.

Jolyn M Arterbury I love his teachings! Eve n if it is a subject I know a lot about, I always learn something new!

Cal Teichmann I can not support this man. He called Chuck Smith Sr. a true man of God in a video which I watched, which I totally disagree with because Chuck Smith was a heretic, maybe he is ignorant of Chuck Smith's past, but it is easily to find out he who and what Chuck Smith believed in and with whom he supported.

There were other's that I have a problem with that Jacob Prasch supported. I will find the video and link it to you.

But I have agreed with some things he teaches, but I have a problem that he NEVER allows any comments on his video's to correct his false leanings!

So I also can not agree with you on this man....at this time.

Servus Christi Is it your contention that telling someone to repent is preaching works, yes or no?

Define, specifically how Billy Graham "preached works"

Regarding your article... You should be able to voice Chuck's "heresy" in a sentence or two. That you're not doing that is telling. I'm well acquainted with Chuck Smith. State one or two of the reasons he's a heretic.

Treena Gisborn I am surprised you are recommending this intra-seal hooligan who has now decided that Billy Graham was a good evangelist! Where is your discernment?

Heather N Christian Do you think that people who believe something other than a pre-trib rapture are “hooligans”?

Servus Christi Martyn Lloyd-Jones commended Billy's evangelism as well, but not his actions. Was Lloyd-Jones a "hooligan" as well?

Treena Gisborn I am not pre-trib Heather... I suggest you do a bit of study into Prasch's intra-seal theory - it is full of errors!!! https://www.amazon.co.uk/INTRA-SEAL-RAPTURE.../dp/B06X6N2JJT Alternatively I have written several posts on this subject: …See moreManage

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Treena Gisborn Servus Christi -- I called him a "hooligan" because he was wearing a t-shirt with "hooligan" plastered all over it when he was teaching his false intra-seal deception at one point! You should do your homework on Prasch. Yes he teaches SOME truth.. but BEWARE. God bless.

Treena Gisborn I fully endorsed Martyn Lloyd Jones stand against Billy Graham. However Billy Graham was not a "good" evangelist since he did not give the whole gospel.. eg. he did not believe in hell/eternal damnation. He was mixed up with the Rockefellers.. https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/.../southern...Manage

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Treena Gisborn Heather N Christian I am not pre-trib heather. Like many others I was fooled by Prasch for a long time. God bless.

Cal Teichmann Treena Gisborn Yes anyone that does NOT call Billy Graham a heretic is highly questionable in their discernment and their Gospel.

Thank you for putting this up!

Cal Teichmann Treena Gisborn And Billy Graham's so-called evangelism was a works salvation, anyone who considers themselves a "teacher/Pastor" should be warning the Sheep of ALL who follow a different Gospel and a false Christ!

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Treena Gisborn I think you are right Cal. I am not a Calvinist.. John MacArthur 's teaching raises some very serious questions. We really do need to "test all things" 1 Thessalonians 5:21. God bless you.

Cal Teichmann Treena Gisborn And you.

Servus Christi Treena,

You're not pre-trib yet you have an unhealthy obsession with Jacob's NON pretrib view?

You sound confused.

Your comment about him being a "hooligan" is disingenuous. You said it to slander and now you're lying.

So please share with the class what your eschatological view is and why you are so perturbed by Jacob's view.

Keep it brief. We're not interested in you promoting your 78 page leaflet. Summarize, please.

Servus Christi And Cal, for all of Billy's faults, preaching a "works" was not one of them. What are you even talking about?

Cal Teichmann Servus Christi Are you serious Billy Graham's "FAULTS"?!

He was a heretic, he was involved with the Mason's!

He preached a false Gospel, and honored the Pope!

How can you say that?

BG stated on live television the Pope went to Heaven!

Faults! How about false Gospel!

Cal Teichmann Servus Christi By the way BG lead people into the sinners prayer at his so-called Crusades. Then sent them out to various churches which included the Roman Catholic church!

Faults!

Servus Christi I'm asking you to substantiate "works" salvation preached by Billy Graham. Nothing else.

Treena Gisborn Perhaps I have an obsession with the truth SC. Prasch's intra-seal teaching is full of errors. If you don't want to read my material then fine, but I do suggest you do your own research. As I have already explained, he was wearing a t shirt with "Hooli…See more

Treena Gisborn Just to add - Prasch teaches that no-one will be saved during the entire 70th week of Daniel... This is very serious error. Please do your own research.

Treena Gisborn https://www.understanding-ministries.com/.../An%20expos...

Servus Christi Treena,

I asked for a summary you have still not provided. Provide a direct quote from Jacob and why you find it to be biblically in error. This shouldn't be that hard.

Treena Gisborn "There will be no church, no preaching of the gospel and no Holy Spirit during the 70th week of Daniel...." Really SC I suggest you watch for yourself on YouTube. Do you think this is a denial of the gospel? I have done the work, but if people refuse to look at it there is nothing more I can do. I did try to question Prasch about this doctrine, but he became very abusive when I pressed him! God is no respecter of persons... even the mighty JP! God bless.

Treena Gisborn also "and no conviction of sin" I have quoted him verbatim a number of times.. but the same old problem... people love their favourite teachers more than the Word!

Servus Christi You have failed to provide a biblical objection to those statements. An assertion is not an argument.

Cal Teichmann Treena Gisborn I do have a question. What about the Two Prophets that will preach in Jerusalem for 3 yrears, then they will be killed, then resurrected? Is that not preaching?

I am not being antagonistic here a sincere question.

Thank you.

Cal Teichmann Treena Gisborn I actually have found that on Jacob Prasch's youtube videos, no comments are allowed.

I find that very disconcerting.

Treena Gisborn Cal Teichmann Exactly Cal.... What is the point of the two prophets if not to preach the gospel? Also an angel from heaven warns the inhabitants of earth not to take the mark... Rev:14:9 "And at that hour there was a great earthquake, and a tenth of the city fell. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the rest were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven." Revl :11:13... Clearly people ARE saved during the 70th week. God bless.

Treena Gisborn Prasch "Once Satan fails to prevent the rapture by killing all the believers.. he turns against the Jews." (18:00) This is a blatant reversal of events as they are recorded in the scriptures! (Revelation 22:18). Satan turns against the Jews before the tribulation! (Revelation 12:13-17). Prasch has moved the goal posts significantly here! If the rapture occurs before the flight of Israel, then this would put the timing of the rapture before the mid point of the week, but Prasch has already stated that the rapture will occur between the sixth and seventh seals. Prasch: "The fifth seal begins the persecution of the church... After the rapture God pours out his wrath on the kingdom of Antichrist and refocuses on the redemption of Israel." God's focus goes back to Israel at the mid point of the 70th week when He protects them from the Antichrist. (Revelation 12:13-16; cf. Zechariah 12:10). The Jews flee to the wilderness, and shortly afterwards, in his frustration, the Antichrist turns his attention towards Christians. (Revelation 12:17). God continues to protect Israel for the period of the tribulation (3.5 years cut short). Israel remains on the earth after the rapture during the Day of the Lord i.e. the wrath of God, though obviously they do not experience the wrath with the rest of the world. This blatant scripture twisting just about sums up the ministry of Jacob Prasch!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB13W4cvbd8&feature=youtu.be If you really want to listen to thirty minutes of Prasch's scripture twisting this is a good example. Be careful SC Prasch is PROVABLY a false teacher.

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The Great Restrainer and 7 Year tribulation-James Jacob…

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UPDATE 1st August 2018: I originally thought that Servus Christi aka Joshua Chavez was delusional in his support for Jacob Prasch/Moriel whom he now works for as an administrator. I have changed my mind. Chavez is just the right person to carry out Moriel's dirty work. Beware!

Tim Wirth: "Hi everyone I want to introduce everyone to Josh Chav. He will help with admin duties as well as Moriel YouTube, Vimeo and Roku. Josh is a great guy and runs a very solid website Servus Christi. I would encourage you to sign up at his site here. I will be on a temporary hiatus from Moriel to focus on my first ministry which is my wife. Make sure you welcome Josh. Moriel, as well as myself, are blessed to have his kind assistance. Thank you for your continued prayers and blessings in Jesus -Tim" {2}

1. http://pulpitandpen.org/2018/03/23/demolishing-servus-christi-two-screenshots/
2. https://www.facebook.com/pg/MorielTV/posts/?ref=page_internal