CHRIS QUINTANA: WHITEWASHING CHUCK SMITH

Did Chuck Smith Make a False Prophecy? Here's What Scripture Says

Above: Chris Quintana's defence of Chuck Smith and his prediction that the rapture would occur in 1981 due to a misunderstanding of "this generation" in Matthew 24:34.

Chris Quintana spent several minutes insisting that Smith’s prediction was not a “Thus saith the Lord” prophecy—in other words, it was not a direct revelation from God. That distinction functions as an excuse, but it does not resolve the issue. Date‑setting is inherently reckless, and Calvary Chapel has been trying to defend Smith’s misstep ever since. Quintana’s approach feels like an attempt to whitewash a serious error—one that Smith never explained, never corrected, and never owned publicly.

Chuck Smith "I believe that the generation of 1948 is the last generation. Since a generation of judgment is forty years and the Tribulation period lasts seven years, I believe the Lord could come back for His Church any time before the Tribulation starts, which would mean anytime before 1981.

..However, it is possible that Jesus is dating the beginning of the generation from 1967, when Jerusalem was again under Israeli control for the first time since 587 B.C. We don’t know for sure which year actually marks the beginning of the last generation.”

“If the generation begins in 1967 instead of 1948, the timeline shifts, but the expectation remains within that window.” (1967 variant). pp. 35–36 of Chuck Smith’s 1978 booklet End Times. 

Smith’s 1981 rapture prediction was not an isolated remark; he repeated it in print, including in Future Survival (1973) and Snatched Away (1976), as documented by Calvary Chapel Wiki’s entry on the 1981 prediction.1  

People who acknowledge their mistakes demonstrate genuine integrity—something vital for all believers, but especially influential Bible teachers who carry public trust. Refusal to admit error is driven by fleshly impulses: fear of consequences and the instinct to preserve one’s image. Scripture offers no justification for either. Chuck Smith should have addressed his error publicly, but he chose not to. It is neither wise nor honest to excuse this or to attempt to sanitise his legacy by glossing over it.

Addressing the question: "this generation"

In Matthew 24:34, “this generation” is usually explained in one of three ways.

1. Preterist: Jesus is referring to His contemporaries.

2. Futurist: A future “fig tree generation”—the group alive when the end‑time events begin will live to see them completed.

3. Corporate Israel: “Generation” refers to Israel as a persistent, covenant‑breaking people, echoing Isaiah 6 and the recurring biblical theme of Israel’s resistance to God and rejection of the Messiah until the end of the age.

I find myself resonating with the third view, especially after hearing Peter Goeman’s argument.*

Further Concerns

Chuck Smith was ecumenical and made the unequivocal assertions that Roman Catholics are Christians! In his book, Answers For Today (1993), he made the following ecumenical statement:

"We should realize that we're all part of the Body of Christ and that there aren't any real divisions in the Body. We're all one. What a glorious day when we discover that God loves the Baptists! -- And the Presbyterians, and the Methodists, and the Catholics. We're all His and we all belong to Him. We see the whole Body of Christ, and we begin to strive together rather than striving against one another" (p157). (emphasis mine).

On another occasion, Smith stated unequivocally that Roman Catholics are Christians: "I had a cousin who was a mother superior in the Catholic Church and she was just a wonderful Christian. I loved her and we had great conversations together and I didn't try to convert her from Catholicism, nor did she try to convert me into becoming a Catholic.. it is just we both recognise that we had the same Lord and the same faith and so forth.." He goes on to say that the differences between Christians and Catholics are not that great - his conclusion: "Catholics are basically Christians too." 2  

Apart from Smith's false rapture prediction and ecumenism, he regularly appeared on the apostate TV network TBN. False teacher Paul Crouch referred to Smith as a "dear friend" after his death.3 Smith was also a "good friend" of false teacher Rick Warren. Friendships and associations with deceivers such as Paul Crouch and Rick Warren should be unacceptable to any believer committed to biblical integrity.

Smith also continued to sanction the ministry of his close associate, Don Stewart, after his adultery. Don Stewart left his wife and two teenage daughters for no good reason and married another woman in 2011. (Matthew 19:19).4 Smith and Stewart had a long association going back to the early days of Calvary Chapel at Costa Mesa, and they jointly hosted Pastors Perspective for a number of years. Don Stewart continues a high-profile ministry in association with Calvary Chapel despite being an adulterer! He is another "prophecy expert" and false teacher who relentlessly promotes the pretrib rapture error.

Chuck Smith, Paul Cain and the Branham Movement

John Collins, founder of William Branham Historical Research and the Leaving the Message YouTube channel, has documented extensive, verifiable connections between Chuck Smith and Paul Cain, whose ministry is explicitly framed as a continuation of Branham‑style, Latter Rain‑adjacent revivalism. Smith’s early ministry context placed him within the same networks. Collins has published evidence of a 1989 confrontation involving Paul Cain, Chuck Smith, and Jack Deere, following Smith’s public exposure of Cain’s homosexuality, high-flying lifestyle, financial misconduct, and fraudulent spiritual gifts. During that meeting, Cain warned Smith that “certain things could come out”, a statement Cain himself acknowledged as “spiritual blackmail”. Smith subsequently backed down, issued a public apology, and retracted his accusations.5

John Collins links this event to the rise of "cover-up culture" within Charismatic Christianity, and he asks some very pertinent questions: "And they (the allegations) would have caused Paul Cain severe damage to his ministry, and I don't know that he really would have recovered from this. And again, look at this intersection in time. Had Paul Cain been stopped, then would there have been an IHOP KC, if not an IHOPKC, how far would the NAR have developed with its seven mountains mandate agenda?"6 

 

In 2004 Cain admitted to being an alcoholic and a homosexual and agreed to a process of restoration.6 

Chuck Smith's theological departures are too substantial to minimise or whitewash. His date setting, ecumenism and associations with dubious figures such as Paul Cain represent serious breaches; they are not peripheral missteps. This pattern indicates his willingness to subordinate scripture when it conflicted with his objectives.

I value Chris Quintana’s ministry and regularly listen to his verse‑by‑verse teaching on YouTube. Even so, his loyalty to Chuck Smith is misplaced and contradicts the scriptures. Calvary Chapel’s commitment to the pretribulation rapture introduces yet another significant doctrinal problem, deepening the already‑troubling theological legacy associated with Smith. Chris Quintana would be well advised to reconsider his alignment with Smith and engage honestly with the documented evidence.

*   (543) 144: Defining "This Generation" in Matthew 24 with Dr. Peter Goeman - YouTube

1. Calvary Chapel Wiki / 1981

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc9bNm62SCU

3.  https://www.tbn.org/press-releases/dr-paul-crouchs-statement-passing-pastor-chuck-smith

4. http://scatteredsheepreport.blogspot.com/2012/01/january-20-2012-show-my-perspective-on.html 

5. paul_cain_blackmails_chuck_smith_jack_deere_1989-10-09.pdf

6. Chuck Smith and the Rise of Cover Up Culture in Charismatic Christianity | 545

Further Links

http://calvarychapel.pbworks.com/w/page/. /1981 

Chuck Smith - William Branham Historical Research

7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture (Full Movie)

DANIEL LONG AND STEVE KOZAR: HERESY HUNTERS

(392) Are “HERESY HUNTERS” Hurting or Helping the Body of Christ? With Kozar and Long - YouTube

Daniel Long and Steve Kozar have undertaken substantial historical research on the early Pentecostal movement, particularly in their examinations of figures like John Alexander Dowie, Frank W Sanford, Charles Fox Parham and John G Lake. Their research is genuinely useful, and I hope their videos offer needed clarity to sincere believers who are unknowingly drawn into the NAR. Their work also functions as an early warning system for those who haven’t yet been pulled into charismania. 

Steve Kozar: "I want people to trust me, but more importantly, I want people to trust the content that I am giving them."

Kozar's content is accurate as far as it goes, BUT his theology is stunted, and it is incumbent that believers should test the spirits rather than blindly trust any teacher or influencer. (1 John 4:1; Acts 17:11).

While no one with a morsel of spiritual discernment would argue that the NAR is not corrupt at its foundations, Long and Kozar overlook several significant issues. They consistently elevate Mike Winger for exposing “cover‑up culture” and calling out obvious false prophets. Yes—Winger has exposed wolves like Benny Hinn, Shawn Bolz, Todd White, and Che Ahn. But at the same time it is troubling that he has publicly described Bill Johnson as “saved", “sincere” and “someone he would fellowship with.” He has also claimed that Todd White is “saved". Even after reviewing roughly sixty hours of White’s material, Winger claimed he did not see a false gospel. Winger’s underlying premise—that false prophets can be restored to ministry, and that institutions like Bethel can be reformed—is completely alien to my reading of Scripture. False prophets are predators (wolves), not candidates for restoration. Scripture instructs us to mark and avoid them, not rehabilitate them. (Romans 16:17–18).

Winger's exposure of cult leader Steven Koko, the so-called "predator of Panama", involved close collaboration with hypercharismatic false teacher Torben Sondergaard, founder of The Last Reformation.1 Sondergaard is a "thus saith the Lord" leg puller and demon slayer who hijacks people into false repentance. No bona fide Christian "influencer" should collaborate with false teachers like Sondergaard > the means do not justify the ends.

Mike Winger throws up one red flag after another!

Winger appears unable to recognise the ecumenical drift or the overtly worldly tone of the Bless God Summit and TPUSA. At the Summit, he shared a platform with Ruslan, Gavin Ortland, Wes Huff, Sean McDowell, and Roman Catholic activist Lila Rose, among other questionable teachers who are effectively reintroducing elements of the Galatian error. In addition, Ortland, Huff, McDowell, Ruslan and others have expressed sympathy toward Kirk Cameron’s heretical annihilationist position. Cameron recently convened Ortland, Dan Paterson, Chris Date and Paul Copan for ‘Hellgate’, a two‑and‑a‑half‑hour discussion centred on the nature and duration of hell.2 

Although he is praised for exposing false teachers, Winger aligns himself with individuals who are actively eroding the faith — and his own involvement contributes to that erosion.

Winger is part of a loose, self-reinforcing ecosystem of Christian YouTubers who:

• appear on each other’s channels

• endorse one another’s content

• share platforms at conferences and livestreams

• cross‑promote each other’s books, interviews, and debates

• shape what becomes “acceptable” or “mainstream” in online Christian discourse

This creates a de facto establishment — not official, but influential.

Michael Grant refers to this as "one big swamp that needs to get drained".3  

22 minutes, 26 seco @ I CAN'T BELIEVE HE SAID THAT! Bless God Summit - Day 1 Kicks Off With A Bang! (Rulsan KD / CBN)

The other person Kozar praised in this video is Justin Peters. Like Long and Kozar, Peters is very accurate in his exposure of NAR false prophets. However, my huge concern is that he is a Calvinist. Limited atonement (TULIP) is unsupported by scripture and poses a spiritual danger on par with the NAR. It undermines the heart of the gospel by redefining soteriology itself. Those who promote Calvinism will be held to account for how they excluded vast numbers of people by insisting that Christ’s saving work was never intended for all who believe, but only for an exclusive elect.

Lutheran theology also retains serious doctrinal errors with profound implications for soteriology. The absence of the full counsel of God is evident in three key areas: baptismal regeneration, consubstantiation, and eschatology. (Acts 20:27). These positions remain rooted in Roman Catholic tradition rather than biblical authority. Ultimately, no defence will stand for those promoting these deviations from scripture. (Romans 14:12; 2 Corinthians 5:10; James 3:1).

1. This Is Disgusting – Why I Expose My Friend Koko and Join Mike Winger to Uncover Church Coverup

Why Mike Winger Started Exposing Bad Christian Leaders
2. ‘Hellgate’: Kirk Cameron Says He ‘Caught Hell’ Over Eternal Conscious Torment Debate
3. I CAN'T BELIEVE HE SAID THAT! Bless God Summit - Day 1 Kicks Off With A Bang! (Rulsan KD / CBN)

Torben Sondergaard

Torben Sondergaard Confused False Teacher!
Torben Sondergaard false teacher
(778) Torben Sondergaard: The Beginning of False Testimonies - YouTube

AT BOSHOFF: ANOTHER TOXIC PASTOR TO MARK AND AVOID

At Boshoff Tells Church Members To Obey Him Like God

Caleb Corneloup: "In this video, we explore the critical topic of pastoral leadership through an interview with Pastor At Boshoff, who discusses the importance of surrounding oneself with loyal individuals. This discussion sheds light on potential issues within a toxic church environment, where loyalty might be mistaken for unquestioning obedience to a toxic church pastor. We examine how such dynamics can impact church growth and the overall health of the congregation, urging a reevaluation of what constitutes healthy christian leadership and pastoral ministry."

Caleb addresses the problem of toxic church leader and narcissist, At Boshoff. Boshoff is the founder and senior pastor of the Christian Revival Church (CRC) in South Africa. CRC have established a global presence in the United States, Australia and parts of Europe under the leadership of Boshoff.

Boshoff aggressively asserts many offensive doctrines that contradict the word of God. (1 Timothy 4:1). He even claims that loyalty to himself, "the man of God", should take preeminence over loyalty to Christ!

Boshoff's self-designation as "the man of God" with the article is spurious. The term“man of God” was a common Old Testament designation for a prophet or a divine messenger. The title was applied to Moses, Samuel, Elijah and Elisha. This designation was also applied to unnamed prophets, e.g. 1 Kings 13, 20:28. In the New Testament, Paul writes to Timothy and refers to him as "man of God". (1 Timothy 6:11). This term refers to Timothy as a minister of the gospel. As such, all faithful ministers may legitimately be referred to as "men of God". There is no evidence in the New Testament that any pastor or leader can elevate himself above his fellow elders and refer to himself exclusively as "the man of God". When a pastor takes on authoritative titles, it is clear evidence of arrogance and pride. (Romans 12:3; Galatians 6:3). Such a man should not be in a leadership position. (Matthew 23:8). 

Boshoff: "You are called to the man and then the plan, you are called to the man and then the vision..." Again, this is spurious. Believers are called primarily into fellowship with Jesus Christ.

God, who has called you into fellowship with His Son Jesus Christ our Lord, is faithful. (1 Corinthians 1:9)

And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified. (Romans 8:30).

But we should always thank God for you, brothers who are loved by the Lord, because God chose you from the beginning to be saved by the sanctification of the Spirit and by faith in the truth. / To this He called you through our gospel, so that you may share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent. (Colossians 1:18).

Boshoff: "If you can't serve your pastor or your leader who you can see, then you can't serve God
who you can't see."

This is a distortion of 1 John 4:20 >  If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen. 

Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you. (Hebrews 13:17).

Hebrews 13:17 is often weaponised by abusive leaders and taken out of context. However, believers should consider the sum of God's word, not distortions of individual verses. (Psalm 119:160). Believers are not called to blind obedience to any man. Without discernment or critical thinking, blind obedience is extremely dangerous and, in many cases, leads to spiritual abuse and control. 

In context, Hebrews 13:17 is conditional upon the faithfulness of leaders: Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God. Consider the outcome of their way of life, and imitate their faith.. Do not be led away by diverse and strange teachings, for it is good for the heart to be strengthened by grace, not by foods, which have not benefited those devoted to them. (Hebews 13:7,9).

Paul instructed the Corinthians to follow his example as he follows Christ. (1 Corinthians 11:1 cf. 1 John 2:6). He also said: But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a curse! / As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be under a curse! (Galatians 1:8-9).

Paul's writings contain persistent cautions to test the spirits and to practice discernment. 

Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so. (Acts 17:11).

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world. (1 John 4:1 cf. Matthew 7:15-20).

All true believers have received the anointing of the Holy Spirit and should not defer to any man before Christ.

But you have been anointed by the Holy One, and you all have knowledge.. (1 John 2:20).

I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you. But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie—just as it has taught you, abide in him. (1 John 2:26-27).

Boshoff's divorce in October 2024, after thirty years of marriage, was kept hidden until recently. 

The Christian Post: "Despite historically preaching that marriage is a lifelong, permanent union based on God's original design, influential South African megachurch pastor, At Boshoff, has quietly divorced his wife..

Boshoff’s divorce also comes years after Zimbabwean-born self-styled prophet and religious leader King Jay Israel claimed in May 2022 that Boshoff committed adultery and he and Nyretta had split three years prior."1

1. South African megachurch pastor At Boshoff divorces wife after more than 30 years of marriage

Topical Bible: The Man of God

ONE CHURCH LEICESTER: COLD READING AND SPIRITUAL MANIPULATION

One Church Together | 8th February 2026, 11.30am

..while evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. (2 Timothy 3:13).

One Church's NAR meeting on the 8th of February lasted for almost two hours, complete with songs written by apostates Chris Tomlin, Hillsong, Elevation and Gateway Worship.* 

The mantras were followed by an unbiblical appeal to tithe from "Rev" James Prestwich.1 Where do One Church leaders get the presumptuous idea that they can confer such titles upon themselves? Prestwich’s support for the Hinds appears driven by job security, not by biblical principle. Along with the Hinds, he will have to give an account to God for putting stumbling blocks in the way of sound teaching. (Proverbs 15:2; Romans 14:12-13). Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness. (James 3:1). Believers should put every teaching to the test. This principle applies especially to those attending dodgy NAR churches. (Acts 17:11). The scriptures say that we should give to the needy, not to greedy church leaders who are building their own kingdoms. (Matthew 6:1-4; 2 Corinthians 9:7). I recommend Caleb Corneloup's series on tithing for those who want to avoid the mind control and receive sound teaching on this subject: Abraham NEVER Tithed From His Income

Susan Hind's alleged prophesies

"Somebody in this room, you're really burdened about money today. Bring that need to him. Say, Lord, you are Jehovah Jireh. You are my provider. Ask him for what you need..
There's someone here, and you're really bound up by what people think of you. The message that's going to come in a minute will be hard for you because you're really worried about what people think about you. Just give that to Jesus. Say, 'Lord, I don't want that anymore. I don't want to be bound anymore. I want to be free to be able to just be myself and not worry what people think.'
There's somebody here, and you're longing for a baby. Just give that to the Lord. Believe for that miracle. Thank you, Jesus.

Thank you, Jesus. Want to just breathe him in. Breathe him in. Just take a [music] deep breath in. Lord, fill me again with your spirit. Jesus said, 'You will have power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you, and you will be my witnesses both here in Jerusalem and Judea until the ends of the earth.' We're going to hear a message in a moment about sharing Jesus with others.For that, we [music] need the power of the Holy Spirit. Receive the power right now. Just say, 'Lord, I breathe you in. I breathe you in. I breathe in your power. I need you, Holy Spirit. I need you every moment'." *

Alleged “prophetic words from the Lord” delivered by “pastor” Susan Hind, along with repeated unbiblical instructions to “breathe in the Holy Spirit”, initiated by her and echoed by David Hind, illustrate a dangerous pattern associated with NAR‑style churches. Recent scrutiny of this movement suggests that God's judgement is falling on such practices.

The scandals surrounding Shawn Bolz’s smartphone‑assisted “hot reading”—essentially data‑mining—should have served as a clear warning to others employing similar methods. The evidence indicates that the lesson has not been learned, and cold reading techniques continue to appear in these settings. 

Self‑appointed prophets distributing unverifiable revelations leave behind significant spiritual and emotional damage. Spiritual manipulation, framed as divine insight, fractures families, drains finances, and inflicts long‑term psychological harm on individuals and communities.

Biblical prophecy—whether from Jesus, the apostles, or Old Testament prophets—was characterised by specificity. It did not rely on vague generalities such as “someone in the crowd has…”. The safety mechanism surrounding Susan Hind’s pronouncements lies in their vagueness: they cannot be tested, and therefore cannot be held to the scriptural standard of discernment. (1 John 4:1). Such ambiguity generates false hope among those in vulnerable situations. This form of witchcraft and spiritual manipulation is unbiblical and should be rejected. 

Only two verses—1 Thessalonians 2:1–2—were read during the entire meeting. An exposition of the passage might reasonably have been expected, yet the sermon consisted almost entirely of anecdotes from comedian Mark Ritchie.

David Hind proceeded to pronounce an impartation and anointing, then pushed an altar call with a bossy, borderline aggressive directive to “come on… come forward… hurry up.”

Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues; (Revelation 18:4).

1. ONE CHURCH LEICESTER people - Find and update company information - GOV.UK

* Bethel, Hillsong, Elevation Worship Music – Berean Research
* WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: ONE CHURCH LEICESTER SPIRITUAL MANIPULATION AND STRANGE FIRE

Converging Apostasy: Will The NAR Go That Far? - Episode 174 Branham Research

ONE CHURCH LEICESTER IS INTEGRAL TO THE BETHEL NAR DECEPTION

JESUS SAID - Won't He Go After The One // One Church Podcast, 3rd February 2026 | Podcasts

Following Mike Winger’s exposés of Shawn Bolz, Todd White, and Benny Hinn, the wider pattern of unreliable NAR‑aligned prophetic ministries has drawn massive attention. The resulting fallout has prompted a number of believers to distance themselves from charismatic churches, citing disillusionment with dishonest practices, unbiblical standards and false teaching. Churches shaped by unsound teaching and dishonest practices inevitably generate damage to the body of Christ.

I have written several posts warning about One Church in Leicester (formerly Trinity Life Church), going back to 2007 when David Hind's controversial appointment generated huge problems within the congregation. One Church is part of the charismatic Assemblies of God denomination, whose historical record proves difficult to defend when subjected to serious scrutiny.*

Susan Hind's "sermon" begins with a lie: "I am a pastor". There is no such position as a female pastor biblically. If a church has a female pastor, it is completely outside the will of God.  

Susan Hind continues with a story by CS Lewis. Lewis held several convictions that sit well outside biblical orthodoxy, earning him the reputation as a foundational voice of ecumenism. For instance, his Narnia narrative portrays salvation as accessible to those in other religions who remain unaware of Christ. Lewis dismissed "Penal Substitutionary Atonement" and embraced a "Christus Victor" reading that removes divine wrath from the cross entirely. These are substantial doctrinal departures.*

The Hinds have a subtle way of making believers feel perpetually deficient. There’s always another "breakthrough", another layer to “go deeper”. In reality, they replace the role of the Holy Spirit by creating functional dependency, implying that spiritual growth requires their personal intervention. While Christians should desire a deeper walk with God, this pattern is dangerous, particularly when it relies on subjective experience above scripture. The Hinds polished façade of spiritual maturity is only a mask, and their “prayers” are the last thing true believers should seek. A sincere pursuit of God doesn’t require chasing novelty; God leads His people into truth without the manufactured intensity others try to impose. (John 16:13). Scripture calls believers to pray for one another as a mutual practice, not a one‑way channel reserved for so‑called leaders (James 5:16).

Characteristics of NAR churches

Bethel Music: Mind-numbing, unbiblical mantras. Bethel Music serves as a Trojan horse for the NAR, introducing hazardous and unbiblical teachings into churches. Bethel’s own leaders acknowledge that their music is designed to bypass critical thought, creating openness to ideas people would otherwise reject if presented through direct teaching. They openly describe their songs as a strategic vehicle for spreading Bethel Church’s theology and practices into congregations around the world. For many, the music becomes the entry point into the wider New Apostolic Reformation—drawing them into events, conferences, and ultimately the movement’s doctrinal framework. This pathway often leaves individuals and families grappling with deep spiritual confusion and long‑term harm.

False prophecy: David Hind's failed "imminent revival" prophecy on the 1st of May 2022 has failed to come to pass. This is clear evidence that he is a false prophet.

David Hind (1st May 2022): "This is a fulfillment season, an outbreak season." 

(Deuteronomy 18:32; Ezekiel 13:13; Jeremiah 23:16; 2 Peter 2:1-3).

Revival: The revival mantra of false prophets collapses under biblical scrutiny. The New Testament prophesies rampant spiritual deception, apostasy, false prophets, lying signs and wonders, birth pains, and ultimately worldwide spiritual deception under the Antichrist. (Revelation 13:14). We should reject those who consistently prophesy "revival" or "awakening". False prophets tickle itching ears and tell people what they want to hear, not what they need to hear. (2 Timothy 4:3).

Platforming false prophets: Over the years the Hinds have platformed a number of false prophets, including Benny Hinn and Mark Stibbe. The latest example is false prophet Simon Braker.

Constant Touting for money: False leaders' constant appeals for money for large building projects are often couched in terms of their "vision". Wolves who constantly tout for money will suck believers dry financially and spiritually, given the chance.

Inflated Titles: David Hind’s self‑designation as an “apostolic leader of leaders”, and Susan Hind’s assumption of the title “pastor” and her claim to be “prophetic” represent claims to authority that lack substantive biblical grounding. Their presumption sits uneasily alongside the cautions in Galatians 6:3, Philippians 2:3, 1 Corinthians 8:2, Proverbs 26:12, and 1 Corinthians 13:4 regarding self‑importance and inflated self‑assessment.

Boasting: The Hinds incessant emphasis on their own accomplishments—presented as evidence of divine activity—functions as a self‑promotional pattern rather than as a substantive ministry. Their reliance on these formulas displaces any careful or responsible exposition of scripture.

Eisegesis: The Hinds appalling record of taking verses out of context and their poor exegesis is unacceptable. Men aspiring to leadership positions within the church are unqualified if they lack a sound understanding of the scriptures. (Titus 1:9, 2:1; 1 Timothy 4:16; 2 Timothy 3:16-17). 

Lack of accountability: The Hinds leadership structure is sustained through nepotism and a close circle of associates, creating conditions that largely preclude meaningful accountability. This means that genuine complaints and grievances are likely to be blocked. Grievances at Bethel Church Redding were routinely dismissed under a distorted notion of “honour culture", in which leaders protected one another and left complainants without meaningful recourse. Reports indicate multiple individuals raised serious concerns at Bethel, and the documented cases fall far short of the large-scale claims often circulated.  

Ecumenism: False unity at the expense of sound doctrine. There is solid evidence that David Hind is ecumenical.

One Church ticks all the boxes for the NAR deception. One of their eight trustees is Philip Anthony John, who is also a trustee of NAR false Prophet Simon Baker's Legacy International Ministries.1  Braker is a close associate of false prophet Emma Stark, leader of Global Prophetic Alliance. This is a direct confirmation of One Church's close association and involvement with the NAR cult and is a huge red flag.  

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Matthew Corbitt: "The Assemblies of God’s structural flaws have fueled decades of instability, moral failure, and shallow discipleship. Rooted in revivalistic traditions, the movement often prioritizes emotional highs over lasting biblical governance. Scripture calls for a congregational presbyterian model—plurality of qualified local elders, shared authority, and deep accountability—to safeguard the church and foster true maturity. Without this reform, the AOG and broader Pentecostalism itself will continue its cycle of rise-and-collapse, forfeiting the stability and fruitfulness Christ intended."2 

1. LEGACY MINISTRIES INTERNATIONAL - 1209174
2. (30) Assemblies of God: Scandals and Intentional Instability: A Hope for Repentance and Reform

* The Hidden Origin of the Assemblies of God: Race, Power, and Pentecostal Myth | Podcast Episode 528
* The Apostasy of C.S. Lewis

The skeletons in Bethel's closet are now going to speak

KRIS VALLOTTON'S BLASPHEMOUS CLAIM OF AN ENCOUNTER WITH THE ARCHANGEL MICHAEL

God is not mocked. (Galatians 6:7)

Kris Vallotton's alleged encounter with the Archangel Michael! This is a sample of Vallotton's appalling irreverence and blasphemy against angelic beings. Mark and avoid the disqualified blasphemers at Bethel Church, Redding. (Romans 16:17-18). Bob Jones plethora of occult visions, unbiblical teachings and false prophecies should also be rejected.1

Bold and willful, they do not tremble as they blaspheme the glorious ones, whereas angels, though greater in might and power, do not pronounce a blasphemous judgment against them before the Lord. But these, like irrational animals, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed, blaspheming about matters of which they are ignorant, will also be destroyed in their destruction, suffering wrong as the wage for their wrongdoing. They count it pleasure to revel in the daytime. They are blots and blemishes, revelling in their deceptions while they feast with you. They have eyes full of adultery, insatiable for sin. They entice unsteady souls. They have hearts trained in greed. Accursed children! Forsaking the right way, they have gone astray. They have followed the way of Balaam, the son of Beor, who loved gain from wrongdoing, but was rebuked for his own transgression; a speechless donkey spoke with human voice and restrained the prophet’s madness. (2 Peter 2:10-16 cf. Jude 1:8-10).

1. Bob Jones - Apologetics Index

MIKE WINGER FACILITATING BETHEL'S CORRUPT THEOLOGY

An Important Letter from Bill, Kris, and Dann on Behalf of Bethel Leadership | Bethel

Mike Winger’s recent exposé of Shawn Bolz cuts both ways. It is, on one hand, a precise and devastating indictment of Bethel’s leadership and the wider NAR movement. However, his proposal to "restore" false prophets goes beyond what is written, and that overreach carries its own accountability. (Proverbs 30:5-6). In practice, Winger’s approach gives Bethel Church Redding further cover to draw unwary believers deeper into its theological snare. Those who call out false prophets have no business proposing their “restoration” or reforming the false ministries that enable them. That kind of presumption is not righteous. 

In scripture, false prophecy is not treated as a “mistake” but as a disqualifying act that reveals a deeper corruption of character and allegiance. The Bible gives no category for "restoring” a false prophet to ministry. It consistently treats false prophecy as a disqualifying, covenant‑breaking offence, not a lapse that can be rehabilitated. In the Old Testament, false prophecy is treated as a capital offence, not a recoverable mistake. Deuteronomy teaches that a prophet who speaks presumptuously in God’s name is not merely "misguided”—he is to be removed entirely from the community’s spiritual authority ..that same prophet shall die. (Deuteronomy 18:20). Jeremiah's warning is very apt in the current situation: ..you have made this people trust in a lie. (Jeremiah 28:15).

In the New Testament, false prophets are described as wolves. (Matthew 7:15). Wolves are not sheep (believers); they are to be identified and removed from the flock. The scriptural emphasis is on discernment and protection, not restoration to office. (Matthew 7:15-16).

Peter warns that false teachers ..secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. (2 Peter 2:1). The focus is on their danger to the body of Christ and God’s judgment—not their rehabilitation. There are models for restoring sinning believers to fellowship, but never for restoring false prophets. (Galatians 6:1; James 5:19-20).

Doug Geivett recently drew attention to the definition of "cover up".1 A "cover-up" is a deliberate effort to prevent people from discovering the truth about something bad. In other words, the term “cover‑up” inherently presumes knowledge and culpability. In their statement, Bill Johnson and Kris Vallotton admit to failure, misjudgment, blindness, and folly. What they do not confront is the core allegation itself: that they knowingly covered up Shawn Bolz's blatant sins. 

It should be noted that Shawn Bolz is the tip of the iceberg at Bethel. Chris Vallotton is himself a false prophet. Vallotton insists that he is not a false prophet and refers to his failed Trump prophecy in 2020 as an "inaccurate prophetic word" that he has had to "process".2 Bethel has platformed data-mining fraud Chris Reed, and cold reader Paul Cain, along with many false prophets, including Bob Jones, Ché Ahn, Mike Bickle, Todd Bentley, Ben Fitzgerald, etc. We can add fake glory clouds, fake gold dust, fake angel feathers, fake fire tunnels, as well as Sozo inner healing, grave sucking and all manner of false teaching and lying signs. The evidence is overwhelming: Bethel is a counterfeit church that is incapable of true repentance or restoration. As I heard one teacher say, "Heresy cannot be reformed". 

Vallotton's rapid change of perspective since his manipulative message on the 19th of January is due to an alleged "encounter with the Lord".3 In other words, the backlash was so great that he and Bill Johnson had no alternative but to come clean about their part in Shawn Bolz's spiritual fraud and abuse. Vallotton has already been caught red-handed lying in Winger's video, and he gives us no reason to believe or trust anything he says. It would be naive in the extreme to believe that Bethel's leadership have anything of value to offer the body of Christ. 

Forgiveness does not reinstate abusive leaders. Scripture commands us to release personal vengeance to God, but it never returns disqualified men to positions they have forfeited. Forgiveness may be extended, but fitness for ministry remains a separate matter, and trust cannot be rebuilt on sentiment.

What, exactly, does Winger aim to achieve by claiming a mandate to restore false prophets—a mandate scripture never grants? Some say he has poor discernment, but that doesn't make any sense. One of my concerns about Winger was the missing receipts for his Todd White exposé four months ago. However, he has recently, albeit belatedly, provided that much-needed evidence.4  Further concerns are his collaboration with false teacher Torben Sondergaard5 and also his association with TPUSA and ecumenism. Winger claims he wants us to "think biblically", yet the inconsistencies are impossible to ignore. I remain wary of Mike Winger. 

I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. (Romans 16:17-18).

1. Apostolic Covering to Corrupt Coverup: Swapping Spiritual Protection for Systemic Deceit at Bethel
2. How I Processed My Inaccurate Prophetic Word (Your Top Questions Answered)
3. Bethel Church Service | Kris Vallotton Sermon 

4. I Can Finally Show You The Evidence

5. The Predator of Panama: Evangelist Steve Koko

Bethel’s Silence on Shawn Bolz: Carelessness or Cover-Up?

LAURA-LYNN TYLER THOMPSON'S FAULTY DISCERNMENT

 (13) laura-lynn tyler thompson - search results | Facebook

25th January 2026

Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson:

"I had another post ready to go, but then this …
Bethel repenting today. Kris Valloton crying stating he can’t imagine if his own son had been victimized by the predator. Saying he got It wrong. Stating they will never again say that the person they put on the platform… 'It’s not our responsibility.' Stating they have been doing a deep dive into how they got this so wrong. Thank you.
As some leaders in Canada celebrated Bethel’s errant position, It betryed their ignorance and how they have done the very same thing here in Canada and it’s all going to come home to roost.
Kris goes on to say that he hopes the church becomes a safe and godly place. Yes, that is what it has always supposed to have been. My only struggle is that this was so obvious, and these leaders at Bethel missed it so badly, that we have to question …what is the root of this brutal error? What is wrong at the core of many Mega church establishments, where personality has become more important than character? One thing is the lack of concern for victims. This is happening in Canada right now with Art Lucier and the wolf pack who protect him. Five indigenous women with verbal allegations and two in the courts. Those of us who have spoken up have been called horrible names and disregarded as toilet water.
Bill Johnson took the stage and I believe him. I see repentance. I see godly sorrow, and it brought tears to my eyes. Bill was honest that he feels foolish and does not know how he didn’t see it. He broke as he asked for forgiveness. I give him forgiveness.
We do not want to see Shawn Bolz on a stage ever again. He is clearly a predator. The grace of God that we feel we must operate in, cannot surpass the standards of God’s Word. There are now men who will be traumatized and have PTSD possibly for the rest of their lives because of what SB did. We don’t want one more fake word or any opportunity given to him to hurt anyone else. Victims should investigate if they have criminal charges they can press against him and civil suits should follow.
I appreciate KRIS and Bill Johnson doing something the church needed to see today. I’m grateful and I forgive you."

Laura-Lynn left Daystar at the end of November 2024.1  Almost immediately, she launched into her present discernment ministry. I believe this move was premature and very unwise. Now we see her affirming the "repentance" of Kris Vallotton and Bill Johnson. In my view, she does not have the wisdom or discernment to fully comprehend the wickedness of false NAR leaders. We are all learning, but I personally don't like to see Laura-Lynn launching into naive views based on what she "sees". Normally, it takes a lengthy time of NAR deconstruction, intensive study and prayer before speaking out against false teachers. It would be a good idea for Laura-Lynn to take a step back and to seek wise counsel. When the bible refers to "wolves", it means that they are not sheep, i.e. they are not believers. If Johnson and Vallotton have truly repented, they would step down from their so-called "ministries".

I recently sent Laura-Lynn a message and a link warning about false teacher Joel Richardson, whom she endorses. However, she did not reply. Richardson was launched into ministry by false prophet Paul Cain.2  I have written a number of posts exposing Richardson's false teaching.*

In December 2024, Laura-Lynn publicly affirmed and interviewed false "apostle" Amanda Grace (Ark of Grace Ministries).3  

Laura-Lynn initially endorsed Art Lucier and attended his church even though she was warned that he was a false prophet.4

Frankly, I am concerned that Laura-Lynn endorses false teachers and influences others to do likewise. I will give her the benefit of the doubt and say that this is probably due to her naivety and lack of maturity. However, her discernment is unsound and should not be trusted. (1 John 4:1).

1. Canadian Broadcaster Pulls Program from Daystar Due to ‘Ethical Deficits’
2. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: JOEL RICHARDSON ENDORSES PAUL CAIN # CHARISMANIA!
3. Amanda Grace: The Word of the Lord for Daystar
WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: DAYSTAR: AMANDA GRACE "PROPHET" THE VULTURES ARE CIRCLING.
4. Wolves in Canada: Art Lucier Scandal and Its Apostolic Defenders | Laura Lynn Tyler Thompson | 462 - video Dailymotion

* WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: Search results for joel richardson

THE PAUL CAIN TAPES AND THE HORRENDOUS HISTORY OF CHARISMANIA

This mindblowing exposé from Leaving the Message lays bare the long‑standing patterns of corruption within the charismatic movement. Anyone still clinging to the idea that the NAR is a legitimate movement will find that position insupportable on the evidence presented. 

John and Charles examine a newly surfaced transcript involving Paul Cain and Chuck Smith that exposes how leadership power functioned behind the scenes of the charismatic movement. The discussion traces how the same figures moved from Foursquare to Calvary Chapel, Vineyard, and ultimately the New Apostolic Reformation, carrying the same control structures with them. 

The conversation explores how recordings, private confessions, and reputation management became tools for enforcing silence, shaping narratives, and protecting movements at critical moments. By following the historical trail from the 1950s healing revival through the 1980s and beyond, the episode reveals how spiritual authority often operated less through doctrine and more through leverage.

MIKE WINGER: SHAWN BOLZ AND FALSE PROPHETS

The skeletons in Bethel's closet are now going to speak

The above is a detailed video lasting almost six hours that exposes false prophet Shawn Bolz. We might hail Winger as the hero of the day for exposing false teachers. However, I have reservations about Winger's ministry for reasons summarised below.

> Winger's attempt to devise a mechanism for reinstating discredited prophets to ministry is unbiblical. At the beginning of this video, he says that he is "hoping to bring positive reform into the charismatic church." Scripture treats false prophecy as a disqualifying act, not a recoverable error, and offers no basis for restoring false prophets to office. (2 Timothy 3:13).

> His attendance at the Charlie Kirk memorial and his further involvement and endorsement of TPUSA and ecumenism.
> His announcement that he was "changing" and was considering involvement in the gospel, combined with political activism.
> His endorsement of NAR heretics as recently as 2022, and his affirmation of Todd White as "sincere" and a "brother in Christ". 

> He has called for the death of Muslims in Nigeria. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? (1 Corinthians 5:12-13).

For full details, see my previous posts.*

In Winger’s latest video, the issue of anonymous whistleblowers doesn’t arise; he cites a number of named witnesses. Bolz has already been exposed by several ministries, but Winger introduces additional, previously unheard information, and it is useful that it is consolidated in one place. His platform is sizable, and despite my reservations, there is at least the possibility that this video will jolt sincere believers entangled in the NAR to their senses.

NAR false prophets/teachers Bill Johnson, Kris Vallotton, Ché Ahn, Patricia King, Heidi Baker, etc., are a pack of wolves. It is well documented that Bethel Redding manufactures fake glory clouds, fake gold dust, fake angel feathers, fake fire tunnels, as well as practising grave sucking and all manner of false teaching and lying signs. Given their previous history, why is Winger shocked that Vallotton lied and is part of the deception and cover-up culture? 

Winger: "This desire Bethel has to restore fallen leaders is itself a good desire; it doesn't play out without cover-up culture. That's the problem."  (03:20 mark) 

Winger's conclusion: "My call for extreme action from Charismatic leaders." (5:39 mark).

"My call to Charismatic leaders is that you have to call them (false prophets) all out.. The one thing that is going to cleanse the world in the Charismatic world is the truth.. I hope there is real change. I hope there is real reform. I do believe it can happen, but it would take such a change of the structure that you guys would be calling out your own foundations as false. That's what it is going to take, and I will champion you if you do that."  

Winger misses the obvious: he is dealing with savage wolves, not wayward colleagues. His critique assumes that false prophet Kris Vallotton and other leaders at Bethel ought to have acted responsibly—exposing Bolz and safeguarding the wider church. But wolves do what wolves do; they are predatory, not protective. Expecting integrity from them, or appealing to a conscience already cauterised (1 Timothy 4:2), is futile. Scripture warns that such figures prioritise their own image over the truth. They cloak themselves in piety and claim divine authority, yet their words mislead, and their influence draws the undiscerning off course. It is not biblical to call for reform in this extreme situation; anyone who is truly saved needs to come out of this demonic environment. Biblically, the only action to take against false prophets and their enablers is to mark and avoid them. (Romans 16:17-18). In the Old Testament, false prophets were put to death. (Deuteronomy 18:20). In the New Testament, believers are commanded to mark and avoid (ἐκκλίνετε) false prophets/teachers. This is not optional; ἐκκλίνετε is a present imperative active verb.

I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them. Therefore be alert, remembering that for three years I did not cease night or day to admonish every one with tears. (Acts 20:29-31).

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits. (Matthew 7:15-20).

See also 2 Peter 2:1; 1 John 4:1; 2 Corinthians 11:13-15; 1 Timothy 4:1-2; 2 Timothy 3:5; Jeremiah 23:16; Ezekiel 22:28).

The popularity of NAR prophets is itself a warning sign. Jeremiah faced the same dynamic with the "court prophets"—men who delivered only the pleasant messages people preferred to hear. The NAR figures who cluster around Donald Trump illustrate the pattern clearly: they tell their audience exactly what it wants to hear. As Paul warned, some will always gravitate toward teachers who cater to itching ears. (2 Timothy 4:3).

Michael Grant argues that the solution is to simply abandon the charismatic gifts altogether—essentially, a full embrace of cessationism.1 The difficulty with that claim is that scripture affirms the ongoing reality of prophecy and other spiritual gifts, while also providing safeguards for their use. The biblical emphasis is not on shutting the gifts down, but on exercising discernment.

1. The Problem w/ Mike Winger's "Discernment" & Why Exposing Shawn Bolz ISNT' ENOUGH!

* WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: Search results for winger
Topical Bible: God's Judgment on False Prophets
(188) Mike Winger's Non-Discernment - YouTube
The Paul Cain Tapes: How Spiritual Blackmail Shaped the Charismatic Movement | 517

SIMON BRAKER FALSE PROPHET: BAPTISM WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT AND FIRE

Jak manifestować Bożą moc? | PS Simon Braker | NOF Church

(How to manifest God's power)

There are a number of warnings to take out of this disastrous teaching from NAR false teacher Simon Braker, who describes himself as a "prophetic apostolic minister".1  Braker is closely associated with false apostle Emma Stark and is part of the British Isles Council of Prophets.  

Braker promotes the idea that the baptism of the Holy Spirit is a distinct, subsequent experience rather than the believer’s reception of the Spirit on conversion. His proof text is Acts 19:2, a verse that NAR charismatics misrepresent.   

And he said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” And they said, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.” (Acts 19:2). 

Acts 19:2 exposes a group whose grasp of the faith had never progressed beyond John the Baptist’s message. Paul’s question uncovers their deficiency: true New Covenant faith assumes the reception of the Holy Spirit at conversion. Their ignorance prompts Paul to proclaim the full gospel, leading to their baptism in Jesus’ name and the Spirit’s immediate, observable arrival. This episode underscores that salvation and the Spirit’s indwelling are an integral part of conversion, revealing God’s commitment to equip every genuine believer with His empowering presence. This group exactly corresponds to that of Apollos when he arrived at Ephesus, who knew only the baptism of John. (Acts 18:24-26).

Ephesians 1:13-14: In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory. 

Acts 2:38–39: And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”

Titus 3:4–7: “But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing (λουτροῦ) of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.”

Acts 10:46-48: Then Peter declared, “Can anyone withhold water for baptizing these people, who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?” And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked him to remain for some days. 

In his bid to promote the alleged "baptism of fire", Braker isolates Matthew 4:11 and builds an entire doctrine around it, claiming a separate experience, supposedly reserved for believers who have sacrificed and endured difficult trials. I reject this teaching outright. His slogan, "no fire falls where there is no sacrifice", is simply an attempt to spiritualise trials into a false hierarchy of Christians. The New Testament never presents “fire” as a separate, subsequent baptism. When believers are genuinely converted, they receive the Holy Spirit —Acts 1:4–5; 2:4, 38–39; 10:44–46; and passages like John 7:39 and 14:16–17 all point consistently in that direction.  

I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.” (Matthew 3:11-12).

As the people were in expectation, and all were questioning in their hearts concerning John, whether he might be the Christ, John answered them all, saying, “I baptize you with water, but he who is mightier than I is coming, the strap of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. His winnowing fork is in his hand, to clear his threshing floor and to gather the wheat into his barn, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.” (Luke 3:15-17).

Reliable commentators refer to two possible interpretations for baptism with fire.  

One view is that the “fire” refers to the trials all genuine believers inevitably face. Chris Quintana of Old Path Theology argues persuasively that this fire represents the purifying work of the Holy Spirit, i.e. the "refining fire" described in passages such as Zechariah 13:9 and Malachi 3:2. Quintana develops this theme in his teaching on Matthew 3:4–12 – Matthew 3:4-12 The Fascinating Ministry Of John The Baptist. (54:00 mark)   

Caleb Corneloup iThink Biblically argues that the fire in Matthew 3:11 points to judgment of the wicked.– https://youtu.be/CvTcYNswSgw John the Baptist was addressing a mixed audience—those sincerely seeking repentance and baptism, and the Pharisees who came under his rebuke. (Matthew 3:5–7). Throughout Scripture, fire is a common metaphor for divine judgment, and the verse itself separates “the Holy Spirit” and “fire”. Many commentators note that “baptism” isn’t confined to water baptism or the baptism of the Holy Spirit; the term can also signify immersion into an ordeal. Mark 10:38 refers to the suffering Jesus is about to undergo as a "baptism".

Overall, I find Quintana’s interpretation more convincing, though Corneloup’s perspective is shared by others and is worth weighing. 

Braker's misinterpretation of Jesus temptation in Matthew 4:1-6

Braker: "It's important that you understand this. The devil didn't say to Jesus 'if you are the Son of God''''. That wasn't what he said. What the devil said to Jesus, 'since you are the Son of God'. That's what it literally means in the Greek.. The devil was tempting Jesus to live independently of the Father.. do you want the fire?" (59:00 mark) This strikes at the core of Braker’s misguided “fire” doctrine. The devil’s bold provocation was an attempt to tempt Jesus into proving his divine identity. Scripture teaches that resisting temptation deepens faith, builds endurance, and shapes maturity—not that it results in a "baptism of fire". (1 Peter 1:6–7; James 1:2–4; Romans 5:3–5).

In those days Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee and was baptized by John in the Jordan. And when he came up out of the water, immediately he saw the heavens being torn open and the Spirit descending on him like a dove. And a voice came from heaven, “You are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased." The Spirit immediately drove (ἐκβάλλω) him out into the wilderness. And he was in the wilderness forty days, being tempted by Satan. And he was with the wild animals, and the angels were ministering to him. (Mark 1 9-13).

ἐκβάλλω > From ek and ballo; to eject (literally or figuratively) -- bring forth, cast (forth, out), drive (out), expel, leave, pluck (pull, take, thrust) out, put forth (out), send away (forth, out). The term suggests a forceful action, indicating that Jesus was compelled by the Spirit. This is a stronger term than "led" (ἀνήχθη) in Matthew 4:1 and Luke 4:1.

And the tempter came and said to him, “If (Εἰ) you are the Son of God, command these stones to become loaves of bread.” (Matthew 4:3; Luke 4:9 ).

Εἰ > If. A primary particle of conditionality; if, whether, that, etc 

1487 ei (a conditional conjunction) – if. 1487 /ei (followed by any verb) expresses "a condition, thought of as real, or to denote assumptions" (i.e. viewed as factual. for the sake of argument) (BAGD). Accordingly, 1487 (ei) should not be translated "since," but rather always "if" – since the assumption may only be portrayed as valid (true, factual).

Meyer: "εἰ] does not indicate that Satan had doubts of Jesus being the Son of God (Origen, Wolf, Bengel), or was not aware of it (Ignat. Phil. interpol. 9), comp. Matthew 28:20; but the problematical expression was to incite Jesus to enter upon the unreasonable demand, and to prove Himself the Son of God."3

Tongues of Fire

When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place. And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. And divided tongues as of (ὡσεὶ) fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. (Acts 2:1-4).

The divided tongues appeared like fire, and they rested on, i.e. they did not indwell believers.

γλῶσσαι ὡσεὶ πυρός, tongues as or like fire.. ὡσεὶ (hōsei) > as if it were fire or like fire.... an adverb.. a  metaphor  e.g. Matthew 3:16 "like a dove" or "like sheep" Matthew 9:36 etc.

The day of Pentecost was a singular, unrepeatable moment—the birth of the church. Scripture presents it as a one‑time event, not something that recurs.

Divine Healing and first person prophecy

Braker: "The Lord said to me today that there is a gift He wants to give you.. We already know that some of the disciples didn't even know that there was a Holy Spirit, so there was something available to them that thy weren't living in the good of. ..healing has already been provided.."

The early church experienced a tension: the scriptures affirm that God heals, yet believers still fall ill. Even some of Paul’s most trusted coworkers suffered illness, demonstrating that healing is not a badge of spiritual rank. The habit of blaming the sick—accusing them of hidden sin or insufficient faith when healing doesn’t occur—has wounded many sincere Christians.

The New Testament never endorses formulaic methods or a one‑size‑fits‑all theology. We are called to > Pray in the Spirit at all times, with every kind of prayer and petition. (Ephesians 6:18). We should never presume upon God or treat healing as an automatic entitlement.

No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments. (1 Timothy 5:23).

Erastus remained at Corinth, and I left Trophimus, who was ill, at Miletus. (2 Timothy 4:20).

I have thought it necessary to send to you Epaphroditus my brother and fellow worker and fellow soldier, and your messenger and minister to my need, for he has been longing for you all and has been distressed because you heard that he was ill. Indeed he was ill, near to death. But God had mercy on him, and not only on him but on me also, lest I should have sorrow upon sorrow. (Philippians 2:25–30).

Phrases like "The Lord said to me” are employed by false prophets to play the frequently used “God told me” trump card, particularly in NAR‑leaning prophetic circles. Whenever we hear claims like this, scripture commands us to test the spirits. (1 John 4:1).

Braker often directs his audience to echo specific words or phrases, a tactic that functions as spiritual manipulation. This strategy is designed to bypass discernment and secure compliance. Believers should refuse to be drawn into any practice that trades independent thought for manufactured agreement.

Once again, I urge anyone attending churches influenced by NAR teachings to exercise discernment regarding Simon Braker and other false teachers, and to remain diligent in testing the spirits.

1. Legacy Ministries International
2. Strong's Greek: 1487. εἰ (ei) -- if, whether, thoughzzz
3. Matthew 4:3 Commentaries: And the tempter came and said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread."
4. Greek Concordance: ὡσεὶ (hōsei) -- 21 Occurrences

SCOTT MCNAMARA JESUS AT THE DOOR > KING'S ARMY INTIMIDATION TACTICS

About | Jesus At The Door

Jesus At The Door, now rebranded King's Army, operates under the pretext that as many as 96% of Christians do not lead people to Christ. King's Army utilises a formula that includes an "equipping card" and a fast-track 9-step approach, which allegedly leads people to Christ in approximately two minutes. King's Army functions as an ecumenical evangelism tool and is a global outreach having clear, documented connections with multiple UK churches, mostly within the charismatic-evangelical spectrum. Although they do not explicitly use the word "ecumenical", evidence shows that King's Army is used across multiple denominations and is designed to be accessible to the "wider church".

"Jesus at the Door offers a unique tool--an Equipping Card to use with anyone you know, anywhere--and practical, step-by-step instructions, helping readers witness to friends, family, even strangers on the street. This tried-and-tested method is framed around nine points and a picture, and takes about two minutes from introduction to salvation." 

Jesus at the Door originated in Northern Ireland, where its founders claimed a ‘radical move of God’ and boasted thousands of conversions. Claims of “mass conversions” are frequently used by questionable ministries. In this case, the numbers originate solely from the ministry itself and lack independent verification. Self‑reported conversion statistics are unverified assertions; they are not factual. Genuine evidence would require documented names, dates, and follow‑up, producing outcomes that are independently verifiable, consistent, and traceable. There are no multiple independent sources that confirm these claims. I would like to see their specific criteria for what they call a “conversion" and to know how many of these supposed converts actually go on to become disciples of Jesus Christ.

King’s Army presents itself as an overtly militaristic movement, employing explicit military terminology and imagery. Its members are labelled "soldiers" who have been "enlisted" to wage a spiritual war. Within this framework, Jesus is described as the "Commanding Officer" and McNamara as the movement’s "Field Marshall". Their "King’s Army Camp" is framed as a boot‑camp‑style training ground for spiritual warfare, complete with references to an "Orlando regiment" and "a corps of humble soldiers".1 These "ranks" and phrases reinforce a structural hierarchical military style ethos. Last year, members marched through Soho’s LGBTQ neighbourhood in military‑style uniforms, shouting slogans with such force that many passers‑by felt intimidated.2 King's Army seek to legitimise these actions by invoking a spiritual‑warfare paradigm that McNamara asserts was revealed to him by God. McNamara: "I'm raising up an army for the end times, call it The King's Army. I'm going to push back darkness in these end times. So, the vision for King's Army is really to establish these corps, these regiments in pockets all around the world to start fires all around the world where Christians can come and be trained and together shoulder to shoulder, they can raise the standard and push back the darkness." McNamara's spiritual warfare model aligns with the unbiblical broader charismatic concept of Strategic-Level Spiritual Warfare (SLSW). 

Scripture employs metaphorical language to depict spiritual warfare, highlighting the unseen struggles believers encounter. Nowhere does it suggest that Christians should project a militant or intimidating posture toward non‑believers. This approach is especially alarming in places like Soho’s LGBTQ community and is antithetical to the goal of drawing people toward Christ. The gospel is intended to be communicated with grace and love, extending an invitation to encounter God’s compassion and the hope of salvation found in Jesus Christ. (Romans 1:16, 8:26; John 3:5). It requires no theatrical embellishment. (1 John 4:1).

For though we walk in the flesh, we are not waging war according to the flesh. (2 Corinthians 10:3; Ephesians 6:1-19).

In 2021 McNamara was invited to bring JAD and RNB (Revive New Believers) to Christ for all Nations/Nations Church by Daniel Kolenda, where he now serves on staff as Evangelism Director. Kolenda succeeded false "apostle" Reinhard Bonnke as president and CEO of Christ for all Nations (CfaN) in 2009.3 CfaN was founded in 1974, and Bonnke later focused his mass‑evangelism efforts on Nigeria, where from the year 2000 he drew some of the largest crowds ever reported — including an estimated 1.6 million people at a single Lagos event — according to CfaN’s own accounts. In all, Bonnke claimed over 77 million conversions and innumerable miraculous events since the founding of CfaN. Following his Africa crusades, Bonnke returned to his luxury oceanfront penthouse apartment in Palm Beach, Florida, which was described in news reports as being mansion-like in its amenities. News sources noted with cynicism the contrast between Bonnke's luxury property and the living conditions in some of the African countries where CfaN operated.  

Bonnke was an associate of arch deceivers Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland and Paula White-Cain among other well-known false teachers.

In his tribute to Bonnke after his death in 2019, Hinn said “The home going celebration for my dear friend Evangelist Reinhard Bonnke has begun. Few have touched my life as he did."4 

Paula White-Cain said Bonnke “..was one of the greatest evangelists of our time.. I was honoured to minister with you on several occasions. You served Jesus well and finished your course,” 

Kenneth Copeland Ministries: "Fast forward to 1984, and a partnership was born. Kenneth and Gloria Copeland sat in a small trailer across from evangelist Bonnke. They were in South Africa, and it was the start of a beautiful relationship that still stands today. “Kenneth Copeland Ministries has been the number one supporter of Christ for all Nations since its inception,” according to evangelist Daniel Kolenda, the current President and CEO of CfaN. During that time, there have been over 90 million documented decisions for Christ!"5 

My recollection of Reinhard Bonnke dates back to around 1996, when churches across the UK were encouraged to support his ambitious plan to distribute a free gospel tract to every home in the country. After receiving our financial support, Bonnke claimed he had secured — and fully paid —  a distributor to insert a bible tract into every free newspaper. Churches embraced the vision, and expectations were high. However, when the scheduled date arrived, not a single tract appeared. We waited in vain for news of a delay, yet nothing ever materialised. When challenged, Bonnke blamed the distributor for failing to carry out the contract — an explanation that, in hindsight, seems highly unlikely, as distributors don’t simply abandon paid insert contracts. After that episode, Bonnke largely faded from view in the UK and seemed to focus his questionable activities on impoverished Africans instead.

1. King's Army Camp | Jesus At The Door
2. Christian ‘King’s Army’ march through Soho sparks backlash online
3. Daniel Kolenda - Wikipedia
4. Benny Hinn&Reinhard Bonnke-false prophets
5. A Prophecy Fulfilled: Millions in Africa Accept Christ Through Reinhard Bonnke’s Ministry - KCM Blog

Reinhard Bonnke Finds Out He's Not an Apostle
Damned: The false prophecies of Reinhard Bonnke.

Confessions of a Former Charismatic, Part 1: Me and Benny Hinn - Alpha and Omega Ministries