An article in the Telegraph has revealed that the Home Office plans a new counter-extremism strategy, giving the Charity Commission new legal powers to sack trustees of charities. The leaked strategy document defines extremism as “the vocal or active
opposition to fundamental British values, including democracy, the rule
of law, individual liberty and the mutual respect and tolerance of
different faiths and beliefs.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11877560/Extremists-to-be-purged-from-charity-boards-under-new-law.html
Those likely to be affected are hard-line mosques
operating as charities, but it is feared that the strategy will be used far more widely and may well affect Christian Charities such as Revelation TV.
Christian Charities, What Christian Charities?
There may be some genuine Christian Charities out there, but I personally do not know of any. Those I have had any interaction with, are, in my opinion, unworthy to receive British taxpayers money e.g. Victory Outreach UK, Trinity Life Church in Leicester, Compassion UK and of course the apostate Revelation Foundation. Many Christian Charities are ecumenical rather than biblical and have simply jumped onto the very lucrative charities bandwagon. Christian Aid’s Chief Executive, Loretta Minghella was paid the princely sum of £126,206 last year! In my opinion the so called "Christians" taking advantage of the British taxpayer do need a good clear out, and it may well be God's will for them to face financial sanctions.
Revelation TV's continual pretence that they are biblical is getting rather boring in light of their proven track record of promoting apostates and false teachers. By their own admission they have aired "iffy" ministries for financial gain:
Conder: "What I initially wanted to do was to give RevTV
to the Revelation Foundation charity thinking this was the right and
fair thing to do as the viewers are now supporting the channel to such a
greater level than ever so we could take off the air many of the
paid ministries which we would rather not have had on our channel but
for financial reasons we had little other choice at the time."
Conder: "We are not in this for the money believe it or not, we are in this
to declare the Word of God and that is without compromise.... " !!!!!
http://www.revelationtv.com/programmes/episode/the-late-show377635
If he repeats it often enough he will even believe it himself! How ironic that on the very same program, RTV aired plagiarist and adulterer John Hagee of blood moon fiasco fame, a false teaching which is now backfiring in his face!
It is getting very uncomfortable for Conder and The Revelation Foundation; they are now talking about disassociating from the Charity Commission altogether..... but don't worry viewers, your money is safe with Howard Conder - or is it? Conder proposes giving RTV viewers their donated money back so that they can re-donate it outside the Charity Commission - is that legal?
COMPARE THE FOLLOWING TWO CONTRADICTORY STATEMENTS:
Howard Conder's statement on The Late Show 28th September 2015:
"The shares that I am holding in trust, which I tried several years ago to hand over to the charity, but because of the Spanish Law and all the complications, its taken time; but now I don't trust the Charity Commission, so if I were to pass on these shares of this particular company..... it holds the license, the EPG, the contract for Sky and everything else. If I hand that over to the Trustees I would be a fool right now.... I am going to stick my neck out and not do that.... I'm not going to part with those shares....."
The Statement on the old Revelation TV website:
"… Howard and Lesley began the TV station by forming a private company and remortgaging their home to put their own money into it. They could easily have retained ownership of the Revelation TV station for themselves and reaped the benefit of it financially in the years to come. But instead they handed it all over to the registered charity Revelation Foundation and wrote off their initial investment. Money was not their reason for starting the channel and never has been…"
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. (1 John 4:1)
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.You will recognize them by their fruits (Matthew 7/15-16)
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Friday 21 August 2015
beware of ian mccormack and revelation tv
I have previously written separately about Ian McCormack and Revelation TV in some depth. Revelation TV seem intent on deceiving their viewers with false teachers such as Jesse Duplantis, John Hagee, Joyce Meyer, Pat Robertson, Ellel Ministries etc..... the list is endless. The cost of promoting things contrary to sound doctrine will be very high indeed (1 Timothy 1:3-11; Revelation 21:8). Both Howard and Leslie Conder have both admitted airing "iffy" teachers for financial gain. By blatantly putting their own interests ahead of the word of God and the eternal destiny of their hearers, the Conders are committing great wickedness. We should remember that after betraying Jesus Christ, Judas Iscariot was unable to return the money to the chief priests and elders, he could not undo what he had done (Matthew 27:3-4).
Ian McCormack is one of the more plausible false teachers around today, possibly because he seems very genuine and full of "love". However, love and truth are inseparable, love is not real love without truth (2 Thessalonians 2:10).
http://www.revelationtv.com/programmes/episode/ian-mccormack747176
The above programme was aired originally on RTV on the 24th of June 2015. The doctrines of demons being taught by Ian McCormack are currently being repeated by RTV at regular intervals.
Ian McCormack describes what he calls "the problem of variance" or "the disintegration of unity" within the universal church. He blames the problem of disunity on non-cooperation between churches and the intransigence of individual ministries. Ian McCormack starts from the false premise that the "fivefold ministry" should be foundational and that the "new wineskin" should be operational universally. From the very beginning of this programme there are major issues with his teaching.
Ian McCormack: "The existing wineskin only provides pastoral positions." !!!!!
Wineskins are specifically linked to the new birth, NOT TO A MINISTRY. The gospel is signified by wine, and the new wineskins are those whom the Holy Spirit regenerates (Matthew 9:17).
Ian McCormack: "Jesus said 'The blood of the prophets is all over the church.'" !!!!!
This is completely false. Jesus Christ was referring to the Old Testament prophets; he was addressing the Scribes and Pharisees, NOT THE CHURCH (Matthew 23:29-31).
Ian McCormack: "Barnabas was an apostle." !!!!!
Barnabas is described as an "apostle" in Acts 14:14. However, in context, the Greek word "apostolos" simply means "messenger". Barnabas was an important pioneering missionary or "messenger", but he was not an "Apostle" in the sense that Ian McCormack would have us believe. Luke made clear distinctions between Barnabas and the Twelve apostles (Acts 4:36; 9:27; 15:2, 22). These verses and others demonstrate that Luke consistently used the term "Apostle" to refer only to the Twelve. There are four lists of the Twelve in the New Testament, one in each of the three Synoptic Gospels (Matthew 10:1-4; Mark 3:13-19; Luke 6:12-16) and one in Acts 1:13 which omits Judas Iscariot. In fact Matthias was chosen to replace Judas Iscariot; Barnabus was not even a candidate for the position (Acts 1:12-26)!
Ian McCormack: "If you don't have Salvation, Pastoral Care, Teaching, Deliverance, Apostolic, Prophetic........ then you don't have the full gospel....the full gospel is the whole pack." !!!!!
God has given us all things pertaining to life and godliness (2 Peter 1:3) without the distortions and additions of people like Ian McCormack. We already have the apostolic i.e. the apostles teaching, and we already have the prophets. Modern prophecy must be tested and should line up with the scriptures (1 John 4:1; 2 Timothy 3:16). Furthermore, the fallacy that redeemed Christians need "deliverance" is extremely dangerous. Deliverance of redeemed Christians is not taught anywhere in the scriptures; this is yet another denial of the cross of Christ from people who add to the word of God (Deuteronomy 4:2; Proverbs 30:6). http://eliora.hubpages.com/hub/THE-BIBLE-AND-INNER-HEALING-A-FOCUS-ON-ELLEL-MINISTRIES
The Key to Success: Proper Additions To Faith:
For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge, and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love. For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. For whoever lacks these qualities is so nearsighted that he is blind, having forgotten that he was cleansed from his former sins. Therefore, brothers, be all the more diligent to confirm your calling and election, for if you practice these qualities you will never fall. For in this way there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. (1 Peter 1:5-11)
Ian McCormack’s unbiblical teaching that God is restoring foundational apostles and prophets in these days puts him in broad agreement with the New Apostolic Reformation. He and other deceivers base their "fivefold" teaching on a single verse of scripture:
And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers….. (Ephesians 4:11)
In exactly what way can these new "apostles and prophets" be foundational?
The original apostles were unique, they knew Jesus Christ personally during his earthly ministry:
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we looked upon and have touched with our hands, concerning the word of life— (1 John 1:1)
The office of "Apostle" was conditional:
"So one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, beginning from the baptism of John until the day when he was taken up from us—one of these men must become with us a witness to his resurrection.” (Acts 1: 21-22)
Ian McCormack and others who promote the "fivefold ministry" actually contradict Jesus Christ and destroy the foundation. Biblically Jesus Christ and the original apostles and prophets have (past tense) laid the foundation in defining the canon of scripture. These present day "apostles and prophets" as they refer to themselves, are usurpers, they seek to alter that foundation.
The apostles writings were infallibly inspired as the written word of God (John 14:26; 16:13; 1 Thessalonians 2:13 Ephesians 3:5). The scriptures tell us that the church is built on the foundation of the original apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone (Ephesians 2/20). There is no evidence to support any succession to the original apostles and prophets, and there is nothing further to add to the canon of scripture as these false apostles and prophets claim. These so called "apostles" are self appointed and do things by their own authority. What Ian McCormack is doing is called revisionism, he revises the scriptures to suit his own agenda.
So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God's household, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord… (Ephesians 2:19-21) The grammar is what we should pay particular attention to: "having been" + aorist passive participle (ἐποικοδομηθέντες) "built upon" - in other words, the foundation laid by Jesus Christ and the prophets is a completed past event.
For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. (1 Corinthians 3:11)
If we are not building on the foundation laid by Christ and the apostles, then we are not in Christ.
For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. (2 Corinthians 11:4)
..... knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. (2 Peter 1: 20-21)
The Apostle Paul had a similar dilemma with those who called themselves apostles - there is nothing new under the sun (Ecclesiastes 1:9).
And what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds. (2 Corinthians 11:12-15)
I know your works, your toil and your patient endurance, and how you cannot bear with those who are evil, but have tested those who call themselves apostles and are not, and found them to be false. (Revelation 2:2)
The apostle Paul gives the example of Jannes and Jambres opposition to Moses in order to warn the church:
.....having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.
Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men corrupted in mind and disqualified regarding the faith. But they will not get very far, for their folly will be plain to all, as was that of those two men. (2 Timothy 3: 5, 8-9)
"..... in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men." (Matthew 15:9)
One of the so called "apostles" Ian McCormack approves of is "gravesucker" Bill Johnson of Bethel Church, Redding CA. Johnson is one of the "apostles" who prophesied over Todd Bentley along with other false "apostles and prophets" at the "Toronto Blessing" in Florida. What these people stand for is inconsistent with the teaching and practice of Jesus Christ and the authentic apostles.
Ian McCormack: "I am up to here with hearing the bitterness, the anger, the unforgiveness and resentment because of the problem." My response: The "problem" is that the foundations laid by Jesus Christ and the apostles are being destroyed by wolves in sheep's clothing like Ian McCormack and the hirelings who give them a platform. If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do? (Psalm 11:3) No true Christian can possibly remain within the apostate church, i.e. Babylon the great, mother of prostitutes and of earth’s abominations. (Revelation 17:5, 18:2 see also Hebrews 13:13).
The Bible bears witness that there will be massive deception in the last days. This is what is referred to as the "falling away" i.e. apostasy (2 Thessalonians 2:3; 1Timothy 4:1; 2 Peter 2:1-3; Acts 20:29).
Ian McCormack promotes an unholy unity within the "universal church". However, God commands his faithful people to do the diametric opposite:
Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues....." (Revelation 18:4)
"Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith (faithfulness) on earth?” (Luke 18:8)
Ian McCormack's supposed numerous visits to the third heaven and his claim to a free right of access to heaven at any time is highly alarming. Some of the false teachers he has shared a platform with are Jill Austin, Heidi Baker, Bill Johnson and Todd Bentley: http://www.aglimpseofeternity.org/calendar/event.php?event=384
Further Reading:
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/ian-mccormack-open-heaven-or-spiritual.html
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/ian-mccormack-third-heaven-spiritual.html
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/ian-mccormack-fivefold-ministry.html
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/revelation-tv-apostasy-and-occult-logo.html
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/grave-sucker-bill-johnson-to-join.html
Ian McCormack is one of the more plausible false teachers around today, possibly because he seems very genuine and full of "love". However, love and truth are inseparable, love is not real love without truth (2 Thessalonians 2:10).
http://www.revelationtv.com/programmes/episode/ian-mccormack747176
The above programme was aired originally on RTV on the 24th of June 2015. The doctrines of demons being taught by Ian McCormack are currently being repeated by RTV at regular intervals.
Ian McCormack describes what he calls "the problem of variance" or "the disintegration of unity" within the universal church. He blames the problem of disunity on non-cooperation between churches and the intransigence of individual ministries. Ian McCormack starts from the false premise that the "fivefold ministry" should be foundational and that the "new wineskin" should be operational universally. From the very beginning of this programme there are major issues with his teaching.
Ian McCormack: "The existing wineskin only provides pastoral positions." !!!!!
Wineskins are specifically linked to the new birth, NOT TO A MINISTRY. The gospel is signified by wine, and the new wineskins are those whom the Holy Spirit regenerates (Matthew 9:17).
Ian McCormack: "Jesus said 'The blood of the prophets is all over the church.'" !!!!!
This is completely false. Jesus Christ was referring to the Old Testament prophets; he was addressing the Scribes and Pharisees, NOT THE CHURCH (Matthew 23:29-31).
Ian McCormack: "Barnabas was an apostle." !!!!!
Barnabas is described as an "apostle" in Acts 14:14. However, in context, the Greek word "apostolos" simply means "messenger". Barnabas was an important pioneering missionary or "messenger", but he was not an "Apostle" in the sense that Ian McCormack would have us believe. Luke made clear distinctions between Barnabas and the Twelve apostles (Acts 4:36; 9:27; 15:2, 22). These verses and others demonstrate that Luke consistently used the term "Apostle" to refer only to the Twelve. There are four lists of the Twelve in the New Testament, one in each of the three Synoptic Gospels (Matthew 10:1-4; Mark 3:13-19; Luke 6:12-16) and one in Acts 1:13 which omits Judas Iscariot. In fact Matthias was chosen to replace Judas Iscariot; Barnabus was not even a candidate for the position (Acts 1:12-26)!
Ian McCormack: "If you don't have Salvation, Pastoral Care, Teaching, Deliverance, Apostolic, Prophetic........ then you don't have the full gospel....the full gospel is the whole pack." !!!!!
God has given us all things pertaining to life and godliness (2 Peter 1:3) without the distortions and additions of people like Ian McCormack. We already have the apostolic i.e. the apostles teaching, and we already have the prophets. Modern prophecy must be tested and should line up with the scriptures (1 John 4:1; 2 Timothy 3:16). Furthermore, the fallacy that redeemed Christians need "deliverance" is extremely dangerous. Deliverance of redeemed Christians is not taught anywhere in the scriptures; this is yet another denial of the cross of Christ from people who add to the word of God (Deuteronomy 4:2; Proverbs 30:6). http://eliora.hubpages.com/hub/THE-BIBLE-AND-INNER-HEALING-A-FOCUS-ON-ELLEL-MINISTRIES
The Key to Success: Proper Additions To Faith:
For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge, and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love. For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. For whoever lacks these qualities is so nearsighted that he is blind, having forgotten that he was cleansed from his former sins. Therefore, brothers, be all the more diligent to confirm your calling and election, for if you practice these qualities you will never fall. For in this way there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. (1 Peter 1:5-11)
Ian McCormack’s unbiblical teaching that God is restoring foundational apostles and prophets in these days puts him in broad agreement with the New Apostolic Reformation. He and other deceivers base their "fivefold" teaching on a single verse of scripture:
And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers….. (Ephesians 4:11)
In exactly what way can these new "apostles and prophets" be foundational?
The original apostles were unique, they knew Jesus Christ personally during his earthly ministry:
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we looked upon and have touched with our hands, concerning the word of life— (1 John 1:1)
The office of "Apostle" was conditional:
"So one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, beginning from the baptism of John until the day when he was taken up from us—one of these men must become with us a witness to his resurrection.” (Acts 1: 21-22)
Ian McCormack and others who promote the "fivefold ministry" actually contradict Jesus Christ and destroy the foundation. Biblically Jesus Christ and the original apostles and prophets have (past tense) laid the foundation in defining the canon of scripture. These present day "apostles and prophets" as they refer to themselves, are usurpers, they seek to alter that foundation.
The apostles writings were infallibly inspired as the written word of God (John 14:26; 16:13; 1 Thessalonians 2:13 Ephesians 3:5). The scriptures tell us that the church is built on the foundation of the original apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone (Ephesians 2/20). There is no evidence to support any succession to the original apostles and prophets, and there is nothing further to add to the canon of scripture as these false apostles and prophets claim. These so called "apostles" are self appointed and do things by their own authority. What Ian McCormack is doing is called revisionism, he revises the scriptures to suit his own agenda.
So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God's household, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord… (Ephesians 2:19-21) The grammar is what we should pay particular attention to: "having been" + aorist passive participle (ἐποικοδομηθέντες) "built upon" - in other words, the foundation laid by Jesus Christ and the prophets is a completed past event.
For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. (1 Corinthians 3:11)
If we are not building on the foundation laid by Christ and the apostles, then we are not in Christ.
For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. (2 Corinthians 11:4)
..... knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. (2 Peter 1: 20-21)
The Apostle Paul had a similar dilemma with those who called themselves apostles - there is nothing new under the sun (Ecclesiastes 1:9).
And what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds. (2 Corinthians 11:12-15)
I know your works, your toil and your patient endurance, and how you cannot bear with those who are evil, but have tested those who call themselves apostles and are not, and found them to be false. (Revelation 2:2)
The apostle Paul gives the example of Jannes and Jambres opposition to Moses in order to warn the church:
.....having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.
Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men corrupted in mind and disqualified regarding the faith. But they will not get very far, for their folly will be plain to all, as was that of those two men. (2 Timothy 3: 5, 8-9)
"..... in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men." (Matthew 15:9)
One of the so called "apostles" Ian McCormack approves of is "gravesucker" Bill Johnson of Bethel Church, Redding CA. Johnson is one of the "apostles" who prophesied over Todd Bentley along with other false "apostles and prophets" at the "Toronto Blessing" in Florida. What these people stand for is inconsistent with the teaching and practice of Jesus Christ and the authentic apostles.
Ian McCormack: "I am up to here with hearing the bitterness, the anger, the unforgiveness and resentment because of the problem." My response: The "problem" is that the foundations laid by Jesus Christ and the apostles are being destroyed by wolves in sheep's clothing like Ian McCormack and the hirelings who give them a platform. If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do? (Psalm 11:3) No true Christian can possibly remain within the apostate church, i.e. Babylon the great, mother of prostitutes and of earth’s abominations. (Revelation 17:5, 18:2 see also Hebrews 13:13).
The Bible bears witness that there will be massive deception in the last days. This is what is referred to as the "falling away" i.e. apostasy (2 Thessalonians 2:3; 1Timothy 4:1; 2 Peter 2:1-3; Acts 20:29).
Ian McCormack promotes an unholy unity within the "universal church". However, God commands his faithful people to do the diametric opposite:
Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues....." (Revelation 18:4)
"Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith (faithfulness) on earth?” (Luke 18:8)
Ian McCormack's supposed numerous visits to the third heaven and his claim to a free right of access to heaven at any time is highly alarming. Some of the false teachers he has shared a platform with are Jill Austin, Heidi Baker, Bill Johnson and Todd Bentley: http://www.aglimpseofeternity.org/calendar/event.php?event=384
Further Reading:
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/ian-mccormack-open-heaven-or-spiritual.html
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/ian-mccormack-third-heaven-spiritual.html
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/ian-mccormack-fivefold-ministry.html
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/revelation-tv-apostasy-and-occult-logo.html
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/grave-sucker-bill-johnson-to-join.html
Sunday 9 August 2015
howard conder revelation tv scraping the barrel with sharon stone prophecy
Howard Conder has done his upmost to validate his "television ministry" via Revelation TV, despite the fact that he continues to air false teachers like Jesse Duplantis, Joyce Meyer, John Hagee etc. So far Conder has not produced one credible witness to attest to the truth of claims by himself and others that he is called by God for a "special purpose".
The following deceivers have nothing to recommend them, apart from their ability to distort the word of God:
*"Doctor" Hugh Jackman 2004. Jackman is an incompetent "pastor" on the payroll of RTV. He holds an honorary Mickey Mouse doctorate and he cannot rightly handle the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15).
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/revelation-tv-howard-conder-twisted.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra-PPspeNQs
*Malaysian Cult Leader "Doctor" Jonathan David 1994.
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/revelation-tv-howard-conders-delusional.html
*An unnamed "Man of God" 2008.
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/the-saul-syndrome-howard-conders.html
*New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) proponent, Sharon Stone 2005. Conder is scraping the barrel in order to obtain further "verification" from Todd Bentley supporter Sharon Stone. This "prophecy" comes from yet another "Doctor" and self appointed "prophet" who is closely associated with false NAR leaders Rick Joyner, C Peter Wagner, Bob Jones, Wesley and Stacey Campbell, Cindy Jacobs and many others.
Get ready to be impressed (not):
"About Christian International Europe (CIE)
A kingdom expanding international ministry founded by Dr. Sharon Stone in 1996. Sharon is the
European apostle for Christian International Ministries pioneered by Dr. Bill Hamon of Santa Rosa Beach, Florida.....
Dr. Sharon Stone has been used by God to mobilize the Prophetic and Apostolic throughout the world. Through preaching, revelation, training and coordination of various national prophetic roundtables..... She carries an authority which shifts and transforms regions. Sharon is known for her accurate and proven prophetic words that help to release individuals, churches, businesses, cities and nations into divine strategies....."
http://www.cieurope.org/about.php
For, speaking loud boasts of folly, they entice by sensual passions of the flesh those who are barely escaping from those who live in error. (2 Peter 2:18)
THE NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION (NAR)
Participation with the NAR is by definition to set oneself up in opposition to the Holy Scriptures.
Apostolic Governance: The main claim of the NAR is Apostolic Governance, i.e the false assertion that God is restoring the offices of Apostle and Prophet as a model for church governance in the end times.
The problem with this wicked assertion is that no biblical evidence exists to indicate that the original apostles were ever to be replaced. Jesus Christ appointed the apostles to do the foundational work of the Church, and they were unique in setting the canon of scripture (Ephesians 2:20, 2 Timothy 3:16-17). These precious foundations were laid under the following criteria:
The NAR is a movement pioneered by C Peter Wagner, who claims apostolic authority for himself as the "Presiding Apostle" over an organisation called International Coalition of Apostles (ICA). Wagner claims that he was "commissioned by God" as the "apostle" of the "second apostolic age". According to the false gospel of Wagner, “The second apostolic age began in the year 2001 when the lost offices of prophet and apostle were restored." Wagner and others say that God is giving them new revelations apart from the Bible while proclaiming that experience takes precedence over the teaching of Jesus Christ and the apostles.In short, Wagner and others have set themselves up as an antichrist usurpers! Others who claim the title of "apostle" for themselves are Rick Joyner, Mike Bickle (now leader of the spiritually corrupt International House of Prayer {IHOP}). Cindy Jacobs (Generals International), Bill Johnson (Bethel Church Redding), Che Ahn (HRock Church Pasadena) etc. ALL these apostates are proven false prophets, they do not qualify in any way to lead the true church; their prophecies are false, their teaching is aberrant and in many cases their lifestyles are unbiblical. These modern day "apostles" claim a unique position of authority, even putting themselves above the original apostles of Jesus Christ. Many of these so called "prophets and apostles" hold celebrity status; they are completely delusional, they feed off each other and are answerable to no one!
No living person today fulfils the criteria of the original apostles. Individuals may be gifted by God for certain ministries, but they cannot have that particular ministry. Wagner asserts that the gift and its fruit are recognised by peers and that the apostle is “set in” or “commissioned” to that office by other respected and qualified leaders. Wagner is of course referring to the disgraceful infestation of false apostles and unqualified leaders who "commissioned" Todd Bentley. None of these upstarts qualify as true Christian leaders and they certainly do not engender respect - they simply appoint and commission one another.
Prophecy: By their own authority the NAR leaders claim that prophecy is "conditional" in the New Testament i.e. there is provision for a margin of error in prophecy - this is their get out clause when their prophecies fail!!! The scriptures make no distinction between Old and New Testament prophets or prophecy: But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die. (Deuteronomy 18:20, see also Deuteronomy 13:1-5; 17:12; 18:21-22; 1 Kings 18:40; Jeremiah 14:14; 23:30; 26:11; Zechariah 13:3). Any prophecy given must not contradict the Bible, and yet these deceivers claim to supersede the original apostles and prophets. Jesus Christ warned that in the end times many false prophets will arise and lead many astray (Matthew 24:11). The New Testament warns us to test prophecy and to be on our guard against spiritual deception: Matthew 7:15; 24:5; 24:24; 1 John 4:1; 2 Peter 2:1; 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21.
Dominionism: The stated aim of the NAR is for the church to literally take over society prior to the return of Christ in a similar manner to that of the Popes during the Dark Ages. This global church is to be led by an exclusive group of apostles and prophets, i.e. themselves! In fact the Bible teaches the polar opposite. Revelation 19:11-21 makes it clear that JESUS CHRIST (NOT THE CHURCH) will achieve dominion on the earth (Revelation 22:19).
Wagner: "When Jesus came, He brought the kingdom of God and He expects His kingdom-minded people to take whatever action is needed to push back the long-standing kingdom of Satan and bring the peace and prosperity of His kingdom here on earth." Compare this statement with Matthew 10:24; Luke 12:51; Matthew 5:10; Mark 13:19 etc.
http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/31851-the-new-apostolic-reformation-is-not-a-cult
The above is just the tip of the iceberg, there are many more problems associated with the NAR.
Sharon Stone's prophecy over Todd Bentley's "commissioning":
“Todd , the Spirit of God says years from now people will look at this time and they will recognise it as when their God showed up and created within the church a new heart says the Lord. And I will genesis in the midst of the chaos in the world today I will not just bring forth a mending I will bring forth that which is new that which is dedicated that which is decided that which is pure and I will heal the corruptness of the heart says God and the lord says this is the heart that I will not despise as David cried unto me 'don’t take your Holy Spirit from me,' I have released a cry within my church says the Lord that has the gift to release its desperateness and said I can’t live without your presence, I can’t live without your glory, I’m down and I’m naked without your presence , no program will be a substitute and the Spirit of God says, ‘history, says the Lord ,’ will measure it by heart.”
The only thing that has come out of the "ministry" of Todd Bentley is false teaching, unverified healings and deception. During the Lakeland false "outpouring" (and even when he was "commissioned") Bentley was having an extramarital affair with Jessa Hasbrook.
All the usual heretics were present at Todd Bentley's "commissioning" on June 23, 2008:
Ché Ahn, pastor of Harvest Rock Church in Pasadena, Calif.; John Arnott of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship in Canada; Bill Johnson, pastor of Bethel Church in Redding, Calif.; laid hands on Bentley approving him into their fold. It was called a true sign of unity by many. Peter Wagner called this “The Alignment Ceremony” where a total of 17 "apostles" participated (on stage) representing three apostolic streams: ICA, Revival Alliance, and Morning Star.
Participating leaders at the unholy ceremony included Rick Joyner, founder of MorningStar Ministries Ken Greter who announced C. Peter Wagner, Che Ahn, Bill Johnson, John Arnott, Stephen Strader, Karl Strader, Jeff Beecham, Rick Joyner, Doris Wagner, Joseph Garlington, Sharon Stone, Paco Garcia, Clarice Fluitt, Richard Maiden, Mike Maiden, Joshua Fowler, Barry Bouchet, Wesley Campbell.
Statement from the Board of Directors, Fresh Fire Ministries 15the August 2008:
“We wish to acknowledge, however, that since our last statement from the Fresh Fire Board of Directors, we have discovered new information revealing that Todd Bentley has entered into an unhealthy relationship on an emotional level with a female member of his staff. In light of this new information and in consultation with his leaders and advisors, Todd Bentley has agreed to step down from his position on the Board of Directors and to refrain from all public ministry for a season to receive counsel in his personal life.”
http://www.freshfire.ca/?Id=1052&pid=993
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. (2 Peter 2:1)
An appalling and horrible thing has happened in the land: the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule at their direction; my people love to have it so, but what will you do when the end comes? (Jeremiah 5:30-31)
Further Reading:
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/newapostolic.html
The following deceivers have nothing to recommend them, apart from their ability to distort the word of God:
*"Doctor" Hugh Jackman 2004. Jackman is an incompetent "pastor" on the payroll of RTV. He holds an honorary Mickey Mouse doctorate and he cannot rightly handle the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15).
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/revelation-tv-howard-conder-twisted.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra-PPspeNQs
*Malaysian Cult Leader "Doctor" Jonathan David 1994.
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/revelation-tv-howard-conders-delusional.html
*An unnamed "Man of God" 2008.
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/the-saul-syndrome-howard-conders.html
*New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) proponent, Sharon Stone 2005. Conder is scraping the barrel in order to obtain further "verification" from Todd Bentley supporter Sharon Stone. This "prophecy" comes from yet another "Doctor" and self appointed "prophet" who is closely associated with false NAR leaders Rick Joyner, C Peter Wagner, Bob Jones, Wesley and Stacey Campbell, Cindy Jacobs and many others.
Get ready to be impressed (not):
"About Christian International Europe (CIE)
A kingdom expanding international ministry founded by Dr. Sharon Stone in 1996. Sharon is the
European apostle for Christian International Ministries pioneered by Dr. Bill Hamon of Santa Rosa Beach, Florida.....
Dr. Sharon Stone has been used by God to mobilize the Prophetic and Apostolic throughout the world. Through preaching, revelation, training and coordination of various national prophetic roundtables..... She carries an authority which shifts and transforms regions. Sharon is known for her accurate and proven prophetic words that help to release individuals, churches, businesses, cities and nations into divine strategies....."
http://www.cieurope.org/about.php
For, speaking loud boasts of folly, they entice by sensual passions of the flesh those who are barely escaping from those who live in error. (2 Peter 2:18)
THE NEW APOSTOLIC REFORMATION (NAR)
Participation with the NAR is by definition to set oneself up in opposition to the Holy Scriptures.
Apostolic Governance: The main claim of the NAR is Apostolic Governance, i.e the false assertion that God is restoring the offices of Apostle and Prophet as a model for church governance in the end times.
The problem with this wicked assertion is that no biblical evidence exists to indicate that the original apostles were ever to be replaced. Jesus Christ appointed the apostles to do the foundational work of the Church, and they were unique in setting the canon of scripture (Ephesians 2:20, 2 Timothy 3:16-17). These precious foundations were laid under the following criteria:
- An apostle had to be a physical eyewitness of the resurrected Christ (Acts 1:21-22).
- An apostle had to be personally appointed by the Lord Jesus Christ (John 6:70).
The NAR is a movement pioneered by C Peter Wagner, who claims apostolic authority for himself as the "Presiding Apostle" over an organisation called International Coalition of Apostles (ICA). Wagner claims that he was "commissioned by God" as the "apostle" of the "second apostolic age". According to the false gospel of Wagner, “The second apostolic age began in the year 2001 when the lost offices of prophet and apostle were restored." Wagner and others say that God is giving them new revelations apart from the Bible while proclaiming that experience takes precedence over the teaching of Jesus Christ and the apostles.In short, Wagner and others have set themselves up as an antichrist usurpers! Others who claim the title of "apostle" for themselves are Rick Joyner, Mike Bickle (now leader of the spiritually corrupt International House of Prayer {IHOP}). Cindy Jacobs (Generals International), Bill Johnson (Bethel Church Redding), Che Ahn (HRock Church Pasadena) etc. ALL these apostates are proven false prophets, they do not qualify in any way to lead the true church; their prophecies are false, their teaching is aberrant and in many cases their lifestyles are unbiblical. These modern day "apostles" claim a unique position of authority, even putting themselves above the original apostles of Jesus Christ. Many of these so called "prophets and apostles" hold celebrity status; they are completely delusional, they feed off each other and are answerable to no one!
No living person today fulfils the criteria of the original apostles. Individuals may be gifted by God for certain ministries, but they cannot have that particular ministry. Wagner asserts that the gift and its fruit are recognised by peers and that the apostle is “set in” or “commissioned” to that office by other respected and qualified leaders. Wagner is of course referring to the disgraceful infestation of false apostles and unqualified leaders who "commissioned" Todd Bentley. None of these upstarts qualify as true Christian leaders and they certainly do not engender respect - they simply appoint and commission one another.
Prophecy: By their own authority the NAR leaders claim that prophecy is "conditional" in the New Testament i.e. there is provision for a margin of error in prophecy - this is their get out clause when their prophecies fail!!! The scriptures make no distinction between Old and New Testament prophets or prophecy: But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die. (Deuteronomy 18:20, see also Deuteronomy 13:1-5; 17:12; 18:21-22; 1 Kings 18:40; Jeremiah 14:14; 23:30; 26:11; Zechariah 13:3). Any prophecy given must not contradict the Bible, and yet these deceivers claim to supersede the original apostles and prophets. Jesus Christ warned that in the end times many false prophets will arise and lead many astray (Matthew 24:11). The New Testament warns us to test prophecy and to be on our guard against spiritual deception: Matthew 7:15; 24:5; 24:24; 1 John 4:1; 2 Peter 2:1; 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21.
Dominionism: The stated aim of the NAR is for the church to literally take over society prior to the return of Christ in a similar manner to that of the Popes during the Dark Ages. This global church is to be led by an exclusive group of apostles and prophets, i.e. themselves! In fact the Bible teaches the polar opposite. Revelation 19:11-21 makes it clear that JESUS CHRIST (NOT THE CHURCH) will achieve dominion on the earth (Revelation 22:19).
Wagner: "When Jesus came, He brought the kingdom of God and He expects His kingdom-minded people to take whatever action is needed to push back the long-standing kingdom of Satan and bring the peace and prosperity of His kingdom here on earth." Compare this statement with Matthew 10:24; Luke 12:51; Matthew 5:10; Mark 13:19 etc.
http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/31851-the-new-apostolic-reformation-is-not-a-cult
The above is just the tip of the iceberg, there are many more problems associated with the NAR.
Sharon Stone's prophecy over Todd Bentley's "commissioning":
“Todd , the Spirit of God says years from now people will look at this time and they will recognise it as when their God showed up and created within the church a new heart says the Lord. And I will genesis in the midst of the chaos in the world today I will not just bring forth a mending I will bring forth that which is new that which is dedicated that which is decided that which is pure and I will heal the corruptness of the heart says God and the lord says this is the heart that I will not despise as David cried unto me 'don’t take your Holy Spirit from me,' I have released a cry within my church says the Lord that has the gift to release its desperateness and said I can’t live without your presence, I can’t live without your glory, I’m down and I’m naked without your presence , no program will be a substitute and the Spirit of God says, ‘history, says the Lord ,’ will measure it by heart.”
The only thing that has come out of the "ministry" of Todd Bentley is false teaching, unverified healings and deception. During the Lakeland false "outpouring" (and even when he was "commissioned") Bentley was having an extramarital affair with Jessa Hasbrook.
All the usual heretics were present at Todd Bentley's "commissioning" on June 23, 2008:
Ché Ahn, pastor of Harvest Rock Church in Pasadena, Calif.; John Arnott of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship in Canada; Bill Johnson, pastor of Bethel Church in Redding, Calif.; laid hands on Bentley approving him into their fold. It was called a true sign of unity by many. Peter Wagner called this “The Alignment Ceremony” where a total of 17 "apostles" participated (on stage) representing three apostolic streams: ICA, Revival Alliance, and Morning Star.
Participating leaders at the unholy ceremony included Rick Joyner, founder of MorningStar Ministries Ken Greter who announced C. Peter Wagner, Che Ahn, Bill Johnson, John Arnott, Stephen Strader, Karl Strader, Jeff Beecham, Rick Joyner, Doris Wagner, Joseph Garlington, Sharon Stone, Paco Garcia, Clarice Fluitt, Richard Maiden, Mike Maiden, Joshua Fowler, Barry Bouchet, Wesley Campbell.
Statement from the Board of Directors, Fresh Fire Ministries 15the August 2008:
“We wish to acknowledge, however, that since our last statement from the Fresh Fire Board of Directors, we have discovered new information revealing that Todd Bentley has entered into an unhealthy relationship on an emotional level with a female member of his staff. In light of this new information and in consultation with his leaders and advisors, Todd Bentley has agreed to step down from his position on the Board of Directors and to refrain from all public ministry for a season to receive counsel in his personal life.”
http://www.freshfire.ca/?Id=1052&pid=993
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. (2 Peter 2:1)
An appalling and horrible thing has happened in the land: the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule at their direction; my people love to have it so, but what will you do when the end comes? (Jeremiah 5:30-31)
Further Reading:
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/newapostolic.html
Friday 26 June 2015
the saul syndrome: howard conder's wilful rebellion against god - revelation tv
The incredible delusion of Howard Conder still does not fail to astonish me. Actually I have come to believe that it is far worse than delusion, Conder is in wilful rebellion against God.
Watch The Late Show Tuesday the 23rd of June 2015 from about 5:30 minutes in - Conder's remarks last for about three and a half minutes (thankfully not too long to endure).
http://www.revelationtv.com/programmes/episode/the-late-show407359
The Saul Syndrome
It is significant that Howard Conder's behaviour mirrors that of King Saul (1 Samuel 15:1-34). Saul disobeyed God's command to ".....go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them....." (1 Samuel 15:3). He was confronted by Samuel after he had spared King Agag and all he considered "good" (1 Samuel 15:1-9,13). Saul's reaction - he made excuses and insisted that he had performed the commandment of the Lord (1 Samuel 15:20). King Saul had an “above the law” (lawless) mentality, and when challenged by God's prophet, his attitude was that of denial and self-justification rather than repentance. Samuel's response: “What then is this bleating of the sheep in my ears and the lowing of the oxen that I hear?” (1 Samuel 15:14) We might rephrase Samuel's question and ask Howard Conder: What is this bleating of false teachers in my ears and the lies that I hear?
We might also repeat Samuel's further questions and ask Howard Conder:
Why then did you not obey the voice of the Lord?
Why did you pounce on the spoil and do what was evil in the sight of the Lord?
(1 Samuel 15:19)
The commandment of God:
For an overseer, as God’s steward, must be above reproach. He must not be arrogant or quick-tempered or a drunkard or violent or greedy for gain, but hospitable, a lover of good, self-controlled, upright, holy, and disciplined. He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it. (Titus 1:7-9) Conder actually promotes false doctrines!
See also Romans 16:17; 2 Peter 2:1-3; 1 John 4:1-3; Matthew 7:15-20; 1 Timothy 1:3, 10; 1; 4:1-5, 6:3, 20-21; 2 Timothy 4:3; Titus 2:1; 3:10 etc. etc.
Conder has flagrantly ignored clear and repeated scriptural warnings about the false teachers/doctrines that he promotes. This is nothing short of outright rebellion against God, and yet he continues to air these false teachers, even admitting that they are "iffy" (1 Samuel 15:23). Just like King Saul, Conder continues to persist in his arrogant rebellion, insisting that he does follow the Lord, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
Now the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and a harmful spirit from the LORD tormented him. (1 Samuel 16:14)
After the Lord had abandoned him, Saul degenerated into a cluster of abnormal behaviours - mood swings, anxiety, paranoia, depression, outbursts of anger, obsession (he saw traitors everywhere), false accusations, threats etc. Conder suffers from a similar cluster of abnormal behaviours doesn't he? He openly admits suffering from mood swings, depression and suicidal thoughts; he is well known for his unfortunate outbursts of anger, and he is not averse to making false accusations and issuing vile personal threats against his critics. Through his sinful behaviour, Conder has created his own false reality in order to control others for personal gain through lies, manipulation, and sympathy through outward displays of self-created suffering, hardship and victimhood. http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/revelation-tv-howard-conder-breathes.html
Today we would probably label Saul's condition unipolar depression or bipolar affective disorder. There is also a condition called cognitive dissonance, a condition of conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between one’s beliefs and one’s actions. However, Saul did not have a medical condition, the Bible tells us specifically that he was tormented by an evil spirit from God. Saul ended very badly in out and out witchcraft at En-dor (1 Samuel 28:7), and he ended his own life by by suicide (1 Samuel 31:1-7). Conder also seeks out mediums and false prophets, though he does it under the guise of Christianity.
So Saul died for his breach of faith. He broke faith with the LORD in that he did not keep the command of the LORD, and also consulted a medium, seeking guidance. (1 Chronicles 10:13)
FALSE VALIDATION
It was false prophet Jonathan David who first implanted the delusional idea into Conder's mind that he was going to be a modern day “Elijah” in 1994. I have already discussed Jonathan David's "Elijah Prophecy" over Conder in a separate post: http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/revelation-tv-howard-conders-delusional.html
Now apparently we have another false prophet "encouraging" Conder's self-delusion and rebellion:
Conder: "A dear man of God who calls me quite regularly, and he did again today, because I had a terrible day yesterday. I mean you don't know this, but actually behind the scenes, the mask and everything, I was at pretty much at walking away point. I get there often but don't worry. God has allowed me to go through these times..... and I am really in a terrific mood today. Yesterday the enemy was whispering in my ear 'take your life', how stupid can you get..... Today the other..... my God is whispering in my ear and He (God) has also reminded me of what He spoke through this man of God who spoke to me today and actually just gives me such encouragement and I want to thank that man of God. He wrote on Wednesday the 9th of July at 9:30am 2008, he actually spoke to me on the phone, but he wrote it down."
"Howard I saw a dark cloudy sky, but in the distance was a shaft of bright sunshine..... The Lord would say to you; 'I have given you over to Satan to test you and to try you, even though when you look at the circumstances, it will look terrible. Do not fret for I have given my angels to watch over you. I am calling you to set your face towards the light, and you will reach that light. You have called out saying "Why me Lord I am old and tired and when can I relax?"' The Lord would say to you Howard that - 'There will be plenty of time to relax, but now I have a job for you to do, and very few people with the right heart to do my calling. I have called you for this special purpose at this special time and I will give you the tools you need, and the finances you require. The enemy has set his face against you, and he has set his face against my people, Israel. You will win and you must set your face and your mind and your heart towards me. Whatever happens, don't look back or sideways, for if you do you will miss my best. Howard, you know I have had my hand on you from the beginning, even though you thought you could do it your way, you have discovered it is better to walk in my ways. I will watch over your family and I have set a fence around them, so have no fear for I have a plan and a purpose that I am working out. Be willing to allow me to direct your path; it is what you wanted so don't be surprised and I have much more in store for you to accomplish and a shaft of light that you will receive when you come out from under the clouds. Be at peace and watch me work.'"
Indeed there are very few people who have the right heart to do God's calling, and Howard Conder cannot possibly be one of them. Conder thinks he has a calling for a "special purpose" from the Lord - this smacks of narcissism! A person with a genuine calling from God does not find it necessary to repeatedly justify their ministry in order to convince others as Conder frequently does. Anyone with God's calling on their life will walk in the light as he is in the light (1 John 1:7). Genuine ministers of the Lord hold on to sound doctrine as a priority, despite having personal faults and weaknesses (Titus 1:9). Like Saul, Conder has disqualified himself from the ministry because he has rejected the word of the Lord (1 Samuel 15:26). Jacob Prasch makes an interesting point in the video below: Once leaders depart from the truth and are unable to validate themselves biblically, they have to seek other ways to validate themselves. They do not hear from the Lord any more, and so they have to find other ways to convince people that they are who they claim to be. This is precisely what Conder does - he attempts to justify his "ministry" by citing spurious sources in order to achieve validation. To fail the test of scripture concerning faithfulness to the teaching of Christ and the apostles is to fail at the first hurdle, and to attempt to back it up with questionable false prophecies is abominable. Conder originally claimed validation from Jonathan David's false "prophecy", given in 1994. Now he has cited this 2008 "prophecy" from an unnamed source which is equally ridiculous. If someone has the audacity to speak in the first person of the Lord, then my advice is to be very, very wary. I do not say that from a cessationist point of view by the way.
NARCISSISM:
"A preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success. True narcissists are not interested in truth or reality — or you. They concoct a vision of success that becomes their obsession. These fantasies are often bred by the vain promises of church growth gurus and images presented by megachurches and television ministries. In the mean time, present reality is usually overstated. When contradictory facts and figures are submitted it makes them angry, and the messenger is denounced as negative."
http://enrichmentjournal.ag.org/200704/200704_000_saul_syndrome.cfm
It is my opinion that God Himself has set his face against Howard Conder. He is not being tested/tried by Satan as this so called "man of God" claims. Why would God allow Satan to test someone who has already failed the test of faith and compromised the gospel? God allows Satan to test the blameless, not the unfaithful (Job 1:8; Matthew 4:1; Revelation 2:9-10).
Conder: "......I do get those dark moments and the enemy wants to destroy not only me but Revelation TV. It's not my vision, its God's... so he or she who comes against this vision, woe betide you because its not me that you are putting down, but God has a will and purpose, even though I am absolute rubbish, a sinner I fail miserably etc. etc.
Conder is presumptuous enough even to think that he can issue threats on God's behalf! When these false teachers can't answer scripturally, they resort to pathetic fear tactics and threats. False prophet Benny Hinn places curses all who dare to speak a word against his ministry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wAQ5ftiEqE
Each of us will give an account of ourselves to God on the day of judgement (Matthew 12:36). I would not like to be in Conder's shoes on that day.
A WARNING
Talking of woes, perhaps Conder should consider the far reaching consequences of Saul's rebellion beyond his own death. There were disastrous consequences for his family, his associates and his followers (1 Chronicles 10:6; 1 Samuel 31:6; 2 Samuel 21:1-14); it even brought a famine on the land (2 Samuel 21:1). There is indeed a famine in the land in our time - a famine of hearing the word of of the Lord (Amos 8:11). In contradiction to the false prophecy promising a "fence" around Conder's family, I believe that there will be devastating consequences for his rebellion, not only for himself, but for his family, his associates and his followers. God is not mocked (Galatians 6:7).
Some say that we continue to struggle with the consequences of Saul's disobedience even to this day. Haman the Agagite was considered to be an Amalekite (Esther 3:1).We cannot know who the descendants of Amalek are today, but some link them with the present day enemies of the Jews. I (God) shall surely erase the memory of Amalek from under the heavens...God maintains a war against Amalek from generation to generation." (Exodus 17:14-16)
People like Conder who promote doctrines of demons are God's enemies - they leave a terrible legacy. They facilitate Satan's agenda to deceive and destroy (Daniel 8:25). Those who fail to uphold sound doctrine are like Saul, they compromise the Lord's work and become his enemies.
In my view, the likelihood of people like Conder being open to help is negligible. When confronted by their sinful behaviour, people like Saul and Conder usually become harder and harder - they refuse to take the right way out which is repentance. Though I do hope that Conder does repent, my concern lies primarily with the people that he is deceiving.
Then I heard another voice
from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in
her sins, lest you share in her plagues; (Revelation 18:4. See also Jeremiah 51:45)
Further Reading:
http://www.biblebelievers.com/Pink/antichrist15.htm
http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-maps-timeline-chronology-1samuel-16-20-saul-jonathan-david-1019-1012bc.htm
Watch The Late Show Tuesday the 23rd of June 2015 from about 5:30 minutes in - Conder's remarks last for about three and a half minutes (thankfully not too long to endure).
http://www.revelationtv.com/programmes/episode/the-late-show407359
The Saul Syndrome
It is significant that Howard Conder's behaviour mirrors that of King Saul (1 Samuel 15:1-34). Saul disobeyed God's command to ".....go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them....." (1 Samuel 15:3). He was confronted by Samuel after he had spared King Agag and all he considered "good" (1 Samuel 15:1-9,13). Saul's reaction - he made excuses and insisted that he had performed the commandment of the Lord (1 Samuel 15:20). King Saul had an “above the law” (lawless) mentality, and when challenged by God's prophet, his attitude was that of denial and self-justification rather than repentance. Samuel's response: “What then is this bleating of the sheep in my ears and the lowing of the oxen that I hear?” (1 Samuel 15:14) We might rephrase Samuel's question and ask Howard Conder: What is this bleating of false teachers in my ears and the lies that I hear?
We might also repeat Samuel's further questions and ask Howard Conder:
Why then did you not obey the voice of the Lord?
Why did you pounce on the spoil and do what was evil in the sight of the Lord?
(1 Samuel 15:19)
The commandment of God:
For an overseer, as God’s steward, must be above reproach. He must not be arrogant or quick-tempered or a drunkard or violent or greedy for gain, but hospitable, a lover of good, self-controlled, upright, holy, and disciplined. He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it. (Titus 1:7-9) Conder actually promotes false doctrines!
See also Romans 16:17; 2 Peter 2:1-3; 1 John 4:1-3; Matthew 7:15-20; 1 Timothy 1:3, 10; 1; 4:1-5, 6:3, 20-21; 2 Timothy 4:3; Titus 2:1; 3:10 etc. etc.
Conder has flagrantly ignored clear and repeated scriptural warnings about the false teachers/doctrines that he promotes. This is nothing short of outright rebellion against God, and yet he continues to air these false teachers, even admitting that they are "iffy" (1 Samuel 15:23). Just like King Saul, Conder continues to persist in his arrogant rebellion, insisting that he does follow the Lord, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
Now the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and a harmful spirit from the LORD tormented him. (1 Samuel 16:14)
After the Lord had abandoned him, Saul degenerated into a cluster of abnormal behaviours - mood swings, anxiety, paranoia, depression, outbursts of anger, obsession (he saw traitors everywhere), false accusations, threats etc. Conder suffers from a similar cluster of abnormal behaviours doesn't he? He openly admits suffering from mood swings, depression and suicidal thoughts; he is well known for his unfortunate outbursts of anger, and he is not averse to making false accusations and issuing vile personal threats against his critics. Through his sinful behaviour, Conder has created his own false reality in order to control others for personal gain through lies, manipulation, and sympathy through outward displays of self-created suffering, hardship and victimhood. http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/revelation-tv-howard-conder-breathes.html
Today we would probably label Saul's condition unipolar depression or bipolar affective disorder. There is also a condition called cognitive dissonance, a condition of conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between one’s beliefs and one’s actions. However, Saul did not have a medical condition, the Bible tells us specifically that he was tormented by an evil spirit from God. Saul ended very badly in out and out witchcraft at En-dor (1 Samuel 28:7), and he ended his own life by by suicide (1 Samuel 31:1-7). Conder also seeks out mediums and false prophets, though he does it under the guise of Christianity.
So Saul died for his breach of faith. He broke faith with the LORD in that he did not keep the command of the LORD, and also consulted a medium, seeking guidance. (1 Chronicles 10:13)
FALSE VALIDATION
It was false prophet Jonathan David who first implanted the delusional idea into Conder's mind that he was going to be a modern day “Elijah” in 1994. I have already discussed Jonathan David's "Elijah Prophecy" over Conder in a separate post: http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/revelation-tv-howard-conders-delusional.html
Now apparently we have another false prophet "encouraging" Conder's self-delusion and rebellion:
Conder: "A dear man of God who calls me quite regularly, and he did again today, because I had a terrible day yesterday. I mean you don't know this, but actually behind the scenes, the mask and everything, I was at pretty much at walking away point. I get there often but don't worry. God has allowed me to go through these times..... and I am really in a terrific mood today. Yesterday the enemy was whispering in my ear 'take your life', how stupid can you get..... Today the other..... my God is whispering in my ear and He (God) has also reminded me of what He spoke through this man of God who spoke to me today and actually just gives me such encouragement and I want to thank that man of God. He wrote on Wednesday the 9th of July at 9:30am 2008, he actually spoke to me on the phone, but he wrote it down."
"Howard I saw a dark cloudy sky, but in the distance was a shaft of bright sunshine..... The Lord would say to you; 'I have given you over to Satan to test you and to try you, even though when you look at the circumstances, it will look terrible. Do not fret for I have given my angels to watch over you. I am calling you to set your face towards the light, and you will reach that light. You have called out saying "Why me Lord I am old and tired and when can I relax?"' The Lord would say to you Howard that - 'There will be plenty of time to relax, but now I have a job for you to do, and very few people with the right heart to do my calling. I have called you for this special purpose at this special time and I will give you the tools you need, and the finances you require. The enemy has set his face against you, and he has set his face against my people, Israel. You will win and you must set your face and your mind and your heart towards me. Whatever happens, don't look back or sideways, for if you do you will miss my best. Howard, you know I have had my hand on you from the beginning, even though you thought you could do it your way, you have discovered it is better to walk in my ways. I will watch over your family and I have set a fence around them, so have no fear for I have a plan and a purpose that I am working out. Be willing to allow me to direct your path; it is what you wanted so don't be surprised and I have much more in store for you to accomplish and a shaft of light that you will receive when you come out from under the clouds. Be at peace and watch me work.'"
Indeed there are very few people who have the right heart to do God's calling, and Howard Conder cannot possibly be one of them. Conder thinks he has a calling for a "special purpose" from the Lord - this smacks of narcissism! A person with a genuine calling from God does not find it necessary to repeatedly justify their ministry in order to convince others as Conder frequently does. Anyone with God's calling on their life will walk in the light as he is in the light (1 John 1:7). Genuine ministers of the Lord hold on to sound doctrine as a priority, despite having personal faults and weaknesses (Titus 1:9). Like Saul, Conder has disqualified himself from the ministry because he has rejected the word of the Lord (1 Samuel 15:26). Jacob Prasch makes an interesting point in the video below: Once leaders depart from the truth and are unable to validate themselves biblically, they have to seek other ways to validate themselves. They do not hear from the Lord any more, and so they have to find other ways to convince people that they are who they claim to be. This is precisely what Conder does - he attempts to justify his "ministry" by citing spurious sources in order to achieve validation. To fail the test of scripture concerning faithfulness to the teaching of Christ and the apostles is to fail at the first hurdle, and to attempt to back it up with questionable false prophecies is abominable. Conder originally claimed validation from Jonathan David's false "prophecy", given in 1994. Now he has cited this 2008 "prophecy" from an unnamed source which is equally ridiculous. If someone has the audacity to speak in the first person of the Lord, then my advice is to be very, very wary. I do not say that from a cessationist point of view by the way.
NARCISSISM:
"A preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success. True narcissists are not interested in truth or reality — or you. They concoct a vision of success that becomes their obsession. These fantasies are often bred by the vain promises of church growth gurus and images presented by megachurches and television ministries. In the mean time, present reality is usually overstated. When contradictory facts and figures are submitted it makes them angry, and the messenger is denounced as negative."
http://enrichmentjournal.ag.org/200704/200704_000_saul_syndrome.cfm
It is my opinion that God Himself has set his face against Howard Conder. He is not being tested/tried by Satan as this so called "man of God" claims. Why would God allow Satan to test someone who has already failed the test of faith and compromised the gospel? God allows Satan to test the blameless, not the unfaithful (Job 1:8; Matthew 4:1; Revelation 2:9-10).
Conder: "......I do get those dark moments and the enemy wants to destroy not only me but Revelation TV. It's not my vision, its God's... so he or she who comes against this vision, woe betide you because its not me that you are putting down, but God has a will and purpose, even though I am absolute rubbish, a sinner I fail miserably etc. etc.
Conder is presumptuous enough even to think that he can issue threats on God's behalf! When these false teachers can't answer scripturally, they resort to pathetic fear tactics and threats. False prophet Benny Hinn places curses all who dare to speak a word against his ministry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wAQ5ftiEqE
Each of us will give an account of ourselves to God on the day of judgement (Matthew 12:36). I would not like to be in Conder's shoes on that day.
A WARNING
Talking of woes, perhaps Conder should consider the far reaching consequences of Saul's rebellion beyond his own death. There were disastrous consequences for his family, his associates and his followers (1 Chronicles 10:6; 1 Samuel 31:6; 2 Samuel 21:1-14); it even brought a famine on the land (2 Samuel 21:1). There is indeed a famine in the land in our time - a famine of hearing the word of of the Lord (Amos 8:11). In contradiction to the false prophecy promising a "fence" around Conder's family, I believe that there will be devastating consequences for his rebellion, not only for himself, but for his family, his associates and his followers. God is not mocked (Galatians 6:7).
Some say that we continue to struggle with the consequences of Saul's disobedience even to this day. Haman the Agagite was considered to be an Amalekite (Esther 3:1).We cannot know who the descendants of Amalek are today, but some link them with the present day enemies of the Jews. I (God) shall surely erase the memory of Amalek from under the heavens...God maintains a war against Amalek from generation to generation." (Exodus 17:14-16)
People like Conder who promote doctrines of demons are God's enemies - they leave a terrible legacy. They facilitate Satan's agenda to deceive and destroy (Daniel 8:25). Those who fail to uphold sound doctrine are like Saul, they compromise the Lord's work and become his enemies.
In my view, the likelihood of people like Conder being open to help is negligible. When confronted by their sinful behaviour, people like Saul and Conder usually become harder and harder - they refuse to take the right way out which is repentance. Though I do hope that Conder does repent, my concern lies primarily with the people that he is deceiving.
For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said,
“I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them,
and I will be their God,
and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst,
and be separate from them, says the Lord,
and touch no unclean thing;
then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you,
and you shall be sons and daughters to me,
says the Lord Almighty.”
and I will be their God,
and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst,
and be separate from them, says the Lord,
and touch no unclean thing;
then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you,
and you shall be sons and daughters to me,
says the Lord Almighty.”
(2 Corinthians 6:14-18)
Further Reading:
http://www.biblebelievers.com/Pink/antichrist15.htm
http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-maps-timeline-chronology-1samuel-16-20-saul-jonathan-david-1019-1012bc.htm
Tuesday 16 June 2015
REVELATION TV: HOWARD CONDER SAYS CHARITY COMMISSION ARE "DESPICABLE" AND "DUH - THICK" - INTERIM MANAGER TO BE APPOINTED!!!
The Charity Commission is to appoint an Interim Manager to act in the
administration of the Revelation Foundation. This very serious step was
downplayed by Conder, Pettie and Tun on air last night who completely misrepresented the true picture. The Charity Commission HAVE NOT stated that there is "loss or misappropriation of charitable funds" at all!!! The Commissions wording is actually: "potential significant loss of chariticable funds....." The word twisting and the suggestion that the Commission's "silence" means that there is no case to answer is typical of RTV's underhand tactics of distorting the facts.
http://www.revelationtv.com/programmes/episode/the-late-show872866
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-charity-investigation-revelation-foundation
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/interim-manager-appointed-to-revelation-foundation
RTV's statement below is dishonest and misleading. Feeding misinformation to the public to their own advantage is to pre-empt the outcome of the investigation. This is completely unacceptable. RTV should be made to retract their deceptive statement: ".....the Charity Commission has identified no loss or misappropriation of charitable funds by the trustees”.
"A spokeswoman from the Commission told Civil Society News that this part of the statement was completely untrue."
http://www.civilsociety.co.uk/governance/news/content/19866/charity_commission_appoint_interim_manager_to_christian_charity_after_investigation
Statement from Revelation TV 16th June 2015
"After a thorough investigation of Revelation Foundation over nine months the Charity Commission has identified no loss or misappropriation of charitable funds by the trustees. (!!!) The day to day operations of Revelation Foundation have continued throughout, without interference from the Charity Commission and no criticism has been made of programme content or production. The Charity Commission has noted the legal and accounting complexities of Revelation Foundation’s activities in the UK and Spain and has appointed an accountant to act as an interim manager to work with the trustees to resolve issues relating to the legal and accounting procedures of Revelation Foundation and its associated Spanish companies. The trustees have nothing to hide and welcome this appointment and will draw upon the expertise of the accountant and his team to ensure the public have full assurance as to the work of the trust."
http://www.revelationtv.com/rnews/entry/charity-commission-finds-no-loss-of-charitable-funds
The Charity Commission can take the very serious step of appointing an Interim Manager to act in the administration of a charity after opening a statutory inquiry if it considers that:
Conder's manners do not improve. His verbal abuse now extends to the Charity Commission as well as to his critics. He called the Charity Commission "despicable" and at one point at about 50 minutes in he said "duh - how thick can you get." I am sure he will continue to endear himself to the Commission in the future!
No one who practices deceit shall dwell in my house; no one who utters lies shall continue before my eyes. (Psalm 101:7)
SATANIC ATTACK OR STUPIDITY?
RTV take the deluded view that the investigation by the Charity Commission is the work of Satan and they frequently bemoan this so called "fact".
"We do believe that we are in a spiritual battle. Certainly the enemy is using the investigation to cause us to have a great deal of time taken away from ‘Kingdom business.’"
http://www.revelationtv.com/rnews/entry/charity-commission-update
It is very unwise of RTV to publish such statements, but we should not be surprised. Such remarks are likely to alienate both the nonchristian general public and the Charity Commission. They do nothing to promote the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ!
What RTV calls "Kingdom business" is rank apostasy. I am positive that Satan is very happy to let RTV continue airing their false teachings without interference. Even if this investigation were the work of Satan (and it is not) then RTV should be rejoicing. The apostle Paul's view of hardship and persecution stands in stark contrast to the beligerant attitude of RTV (Philippians 3:8-10..... See also Romans 10:1, 12:12; 1 Corinthians 11:24; 2 Timothy 3:12; James 1:2-4; 1 Peter 2:23).
http://www.revelationtv.com/programmes/episode/the-late-show872866
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-charity-investigation-revelation-foundation
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/interim-manager-appointed-to-revelation-foundation
RTV's statement below is dishonest and misleading. Feeding misinformation to the public to their own advantage is to pre-empt the outcome of the investigation. This is completely unacceptable. RTV should be made to retract their deceptive statement: ".....the Charity Commission has identified no loss or misappropriation of charitable funds by the trustees”.
"A spokeswoman from the Commission told Civil Society News that this part of the statement was completely untrue."
http://www.civilsociety.co.uk/governance/news/content/19866/charity_commission_appoint_interim_manager_to_christian_charity_after_investigation
Statement from Revelation TV 16th June 2015
"After a thorough investigation of Revelation Foundation over nine months the Charity Commission has identified no loss or misappropriation of charitable funds by the trustees. (!!!) The day to day operations of Revelation Foundation have continued throughout, without interference from the Charity Commission and no criticism has been made of programme content or production. The Charity Commission has noted the legal and accounting complexities of Revelation Foundation’s activities in the UK and Spain and has appointed an accountant to act as an interim manager to work with the trustees to resolve issues relating to the legal and accounting procedures of Revelation Foundation and its associated Spanish companies. The trustees have nothing to hide and welcome this appointment and will draw upon the expertise of the accountant and his team to ensure the public have full assurance as to the work of the trust."
http://www.revelationtv.com/rnews/entry/charity-commission-finds-no-loss-of-charitable-funds
The Charity Commission can take the very serious step of appointing an Interim Manager to act in the administration of a charity after opening a statutory inquiry if it considers that:
- there has been misconduct or mismanagement in the administration of a charity or
- it is necessary or desirable to protect the charity’s property
Conder's manners do not improve. His verbal abuse now extends to the Charity Commission as well as to his critics. He called the Charity Commission "despicable" and at one point at about 50 minutes in he said "duh - how thick can you get." I am sure he will continue to endear himself to the Commission in the future!
No one who practices deceit shall dwell in my house; no one who utters lies shall continue before my eyes. (Psalm 101:7)
SATANIC ATTACK OR STUPIDITY?
RTV take the deluded view that the investigation by the Charity Commission is the work of Satan and they frequently bemoan this so called "fact".
"We do believe that we are in a spiritual battle. Certainly the enemy is using the investigation to cause us to have a great deal of time taken away from ‘Kingdom business.’"
http://www.revelationtv.com/rnews/entry/charity-commission-update
It is very unwise of RTV to publish such statements, but we should not be surprised. Such remarks are likely to alienate both the nonchristian general public and the Charity Commission. They do nothing to promote the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ!
What RTV calls "Kingdom business" is rank apostasy. I am positive that Satan is very happy to let RTV continue airing their false teachings without interference. Even if this investigation were the work of Satan (and it is not) then RTV should be rejoicing. The apostle Paul's view of hardship and persecution stands in stark contrast to the beligerant attitude of RTV (Philippians 3:8-10..... See also Romans 10:1, 12:12; 1 Corinthians 11:24; 2 Timothy 3:12; James 1:2-4; 1 Peter 2:23).
Friday 12 June 2015
REVELATION TV EXPOSED: DUBIOUS PRACTICES
WATCHMAN4WALES, Rob Thomas, has produced the following excellent video outlining the main issues of concern about Revelation TV'S dubious practices:
http://watchman4wales.blogspot.co.uk/
http://watchman4wales.blogspot.co.uk/
Monday 8 June 2015
REVELATION TV: DIRTY MONEY AND THE DELUSIONAL WORLD OF HOWARD CONDER!
While we wait for Charity Commissions inquiry into the Revelation Foundation to come to a conclusion, several things are now coming to light which should horrify any discerning viewer of Revelation TV (RTV).
HOWIES BAR
Conder and his wife have denied any involvement with, or knowledge of, "Howies" bar/club in La Cala. THEY LIED!!! There is unequivocal evidence which shows their involvement:
The Registrant Organisation for HOWIESCLUB.COM is 21st Century Television Ltd
Registrant Name: Howard Conder:
http://whois.domaintools.com/howiesclub.com
http://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2014/04/03/singing-for-your-supper-in-mijas/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmadpn5Hh5s&feature=youtu.be
It would appear that Howard Conder invested the "dirty money" he made from false bible teachers into Howies bar/club and also a luxury yacht whilst at the same time claiming on Building the Foundation that RTV is run on a shoestring and can hardly make ends meet. Many viewers responded generously to Conder and Pettie's frequent appeals for funds, and gave out of their poverty sacrificially because of the sincerity of their commitment to Christ. This is deception of a terrible kind and I hope the findings of Charity Commission will go some way towards ex-contributors being empowered to legally claim their money back.
Please read Sarah Acotts post for more unsavoury details about Howies bar/club:
https://godvschristianity.wordpress.com/2015/06/04/howies-bar-and-questionable-behaviour-from-revelation-tv-staff/
The Conder children have also raised some eyebrows, given the fact that they have all been employed by RTV at one time or another. Luke Conder's involvement in Playboy parties called “Snogg and Sintillate” (sin til late) for example:
Howard Conder's Delusional Behaviour
Howard Conder's delusional/irrational behaviour has caused consternation in several quarters and it has been very damaging to a number of people. He has accused, threatened, vilified and lied about others unremittingly, even calling his critics "demons bullies and creeps". Self control and discipline are essential qualifications for those in Christian leadership (1 Timothy 3:2; Titus 1:5-9). Sadly the essential qualities necessary for a credible Christian witness (2 Peter 1:5-11; 2 Timothy 1:7) are demonstrably lacking in Conder, whose repeated outbursts, both verbal and written, have been truly shocking.
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/howard-conder-revelation-tv-abusive.html
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/revelation-tv-howard-conder-twisted.html
Arbitration
Unsurprisingly, given Conder's temperament, plans for an arbitration meeting with Sarah Acott and Sheila xxxxxx have turned into a complete fiasco. Sarah Acott has reported these details on on her blog: https://godvschristianity.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/apologies-and-a-call-for-arbitration-conder-digs-a-bigger-hole/
Talking about Qualifications
It is a fallacy that anyone who uses the prefix title “doctor” before their name has successfully completed the appropriate academic course study, and has been awarded a doctorate degree by an accredited university.
A growing problem is the huge number of Mickey Mouse honorary doctorate degrees that have been given to financial patrons of universities as well as those that have been granted by non-accredited colleges. Many who receive these honorary “degrees” immediately append the “doctor” title to their names, and they do so with no disclosure about their lack of appropriate educational achievement. In my view this is unethical.
RTV presenter "Dr Hugh" aka "Pastor" Hugh Jackman is one such person who has availed himself of an Honorary Doctorate in Ministry (Dmin), awarded by Excel University in November 2014.
"Rev. Dr" Felicity Corbin-Wheeler appears in Get Well Stay Well on RTV. Corbin-Wheeler is NOT a medical doctor, she is an honorary Doctor of Divinity (DD). This would be an impressive qualification if gained in the UK, however in the US it is an honorary degree.
"Dr" Grady McMurtry - DD, School of Theology, Columbus, Georgia - 1996. McMurtry describes himself as a "Biblical Scientific Creationist Apologist" and is a regular guest on RTV. http://www.creationworldview.org/aboutus.asp
There are no details to be found anywhere about the "doctorate" of cult leader and proven false prophet "Dr" Jonathan David (who prophesied the ludicrous "Elijah prophecy" over Conder).
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/revelation-tv-howard-conders-delusional.html
In fact, the majority of TV evangelists, some of whom appear on RTV, have honorary "doctorates":
John Hagee, Jesse Duplantis, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, Frederick K.C. Price, Mike Murdock, Perry Stone, Jack Van Impe, Rod Parsley, Rodney Howard-Browne, Kenneth Copeland, Norvel Hayes, Kevin McNulty, Benny Hinn. Fred Price, TD Jakes, Randy White, Marilyn Hickey, Paul (David) Yonggi Cho..... the list is endless.
Does it matter? Yes actually it does. Those who hold worthless honorary doctorates in theology with no sound theological training are all too often the ones teaching false doctrines. In order to compensate for their lack of gifting and calling, these wolves in sheep's clothing attempt to validate their “ministries” with honorary doctorates which in no way, shape, or form are comparable to a real PhD. In other words, their fake gospel and their fake degrees go hand in hand.
What does this tell us? They love their titles to be seen before men - they seek worldly honour:
They do all their deeds to be seen by others.(Matthew 23:5-12)
Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves. (Philippians 2:3)
Those who have graduated with an authentic PhD in Theology from an accredited institution have studied for several years, learning how to translate the scriptures from the original languages, biblical backgrounds, in-depth studies of each book of the Bible and the doctrinal errors of cults etc. I am not saying that an authentic qualification is a necessary requirement for someone to teach the Bible effectively. Many well-known pastors and teachers with no theological qualifications are called and gifted by God. Nevertheless, serious study of some form is required, whether at a reputable institution or privately, not for the sake of a title or a qualification, but to show oneself approved.
Paul's instruction to Timothy: Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. (2 Tim. 2:15)
For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge..... (2 Peter 1:5)
UPDATE 16th June 2015
The Charity Commission is to appoint an Interim Manager to act in the administration of The Revelation Foundation. http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/revelation-tv-howard-conder-says.html
HOWIES BAR
Conder and his wife have denied any involvement with, or knowledge of, "Howies" bar/club in La Cala. THEY LIED!!! There is unequivocal evidence which shows their involvement:
The Registrant Organisation for HOWIESCLUB.COM is 21st Century Television Ltd
Registrant Name: Howard Conder:
http://whois.domaintools.com/howiesclub.com
http://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2014/04/03/singing-for-your-supper-in-mijas/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmadpn5Hh5s&feature=youtu.be
It would appear that Howard Conder invested the "dirty money" he made from false bible teachers into Howies bar/club and also a luxury yacht whilst at the same time claiming on Building the Foundation that RTV is run on a shoestring and can hardly make ends meet. Many viewers responded generously to Conder and Pettie's frequent appeals for funds, and gave out of their poverty sacrificially because of the sincerity of their commitment to Christ. This is deception of a terrible kind and I hope the findings of Charity Commission will go some way towards ex-contributors being empowered to legally claim their money back.
Please read Sarah Acotts post for more unsavoury details about Howies bar/club:
https://godvschristianity.wordpress.com/2015/06/04/howies-bar-and-questionable-behaviour-from-revelation-tv-staff/
The Conder children have also raised some eyebrows, given the fact that they have all been employed by RTV at one time or another. Luke Conder's involvement in Playboy parties called “Snogg and Sintillate” (sin til late) for example:
https://twitter.com/Luke_Conder |
Howard Conder's delusional/irrational behaviour has caused consternation in several quarters and it has been very damaging to a number of people. He has accused, threatened, vilified and lied about others unremittingly, even calling his critics "demons bullies and creeps". Self control and discipline are essential qualifications for those in Christian leadership (1 Timothy 3:2; Titus 1:5-9). Sadly the essential qualities necessary for a credible Christian witness (2 Peter 1:5-11; 2 Timothy 1:7) are demonstrably lacking in Conder, whose repeated outbursts, both verbal and written, have been truly shocking.
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/howard-conder-revelation-tv-abusive.html
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/revelation-tv-howard-conder-twisted.html
Arbitration
Unsurprisingly, given Conder's temperament, plans for an arbitration meeting with Sarah Acott and Sheila xxxxxx have turned into a complete fiasco. Sarah Acott has reported these details on on her blog: https://godvschristianity.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/apologies-and-a-call-for-arbitration-conder-digs-a-bigger-hole/
Talking about Qualifications
It is a fallacy that anyone who uses the prefix title “doctor” before their name has successfully completed the appropriate academic course study, and has been awarded a doctorate degree by an accredited university.
A growing problem is the huge number of Mickey Mouse honorary doctorate degrees that have been given to financial patrons of universities as well as those that have been granted by non-accredited colleges. Many who receive these honorary “degrees” immediately append the “doctor” title to their names, and they do so with no disclosure about their lack of appropriate educational achievement. In my view this is unethical.
RTV presenter "Dr Hugh" aka "Pastor" Hugh Jackman is one such person who has availed himself of an Honorary Doctorate in Ministry (Dmin), awarded by Excel University in November 2014.
"Rev. Dr" Felicity Corbin-Wheeler appears in Get Well Stay Well on RTV. Corbin-Wheeler is NOT a medical doctor, she is an honorary Doctor of Divinity (DD). This would be an impressive qualification if gained in the UK, however in the US it is an honorary degree.
"Dr" Grady McMurtry - DD, School of Theology, Columbus, Georgia - 1996. McMurtry describes himself as a "Biblical Scientific Creationist Apologist" and is a regular guest on RTV. http://www.creationworldview.org/aboutus.asp
There are no details to be found anywhere about the "doctorate" of cult leader and proven false prophet "Dr" Jonathan David (who prophesied the ludicrous "Elijah prophecy" over Conder).
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/revelation-tv-howard-conders-delusional.html
In fact, the majority of TV evangelists, some of whom appear on RTV, have honorary "doctorates":
John Hagee, Jesse Duplantis, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, Frederick K.C. Price, Mike Murdock, Perry Stone, Jack Van Impe, Rod Parsley, Rodney Howard-Browne, Kenneth Copeland, Norvel Hayes, Kevin McNulty, Benny Hinn. Fred Price, TD Jakes, Randy White, Marilyn Hickey, Paul (David) Yonggi Cho..... the list is endless.
Does it matter? Yes actually it does. Those who hold worthless honorary doctorates in theology with no sound theological training are all too often the ones teaching false doctrines. In order to compensate for their lack of gifting and calling, these wolves in sheep's clothing attempt to validate their “ministries” with honorary doctorates which in no way, shape, or form are comparable to a real PhD. In other words, their fake gospel and their fake degrees go hand in hand.
What does this tell us? They love their titles to be seen before men - they seek worldly honour:
They do all their deeds to be seen by others.(Matthew 23:5-12)
Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves. (Philippians 2:3)
Those who have graduated with an authentic PhD in Theology from an accredited institution have studied for several years, learning how to translate the scriptures from the original languages, biblical backgrounds, in-depth studies of each book of the Bible and the doctrinal errors of cults etc. I am not saying that an authentic qualification is a necessary requirement for someone to teach the Bible effectively. Many well-known pastors and teachers with no theological qualifications are called and gifted by God. Nevertheless, serious study of some form is required, whether at a reputable institution or privately, not for the sake of a title or a qualification, but to show oneself approved.
Paul's instruction to Timothy: Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. (2 Tim. 2:15)
For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge..... (2 Peter 1:5)
UPDATE 16th June 2015
The Charity Commission is to appoint an Interim Manager to act in the administration of The Revelation Foundation. http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/revelation-tv-howard-conder-says.html
Sunday 31 May 2015
HOWARD CONDER REVELATION TV: APOLOGY FOR FALSE ACCUSATIONS BUT WHAT ABOUT THE GOSPEL?
Howard Conder via Facebook:
"In and around December 2014 and or January 2015, I published certain names on my own Facebook of those whom I thought had complained to the Charity Commission about members of the Revelation Foundation and included myself and members of my own family.
From memory, I named persons such as Sarah nee J., Chris F. and Sheila P. whom I believed had conspired to bring Revelation TV down and or malign members of the Revelation Tv team including members of the Conder Family. Now if this was not the case that these persons in particular did not themselves bring their individual gripes and assumptions nor did they conspire between themselves or others to defame or misrepresent the truth, then I sincerely apologise to one and all.
I personally have come to the position that I place my trust in the living God to bring to a conclusion what I call is at the very least, misunderstandings between some members of the body of Christ and the workings of our ministry within the various organisations associated to the running of Revelation TV.
With the time that is left in my life I would rather not try and defend every tounge that rises up against us,therefore I place myself under the judgement of Christ otherwise we all would be forever spending time on protecting our reputations and lose our focus and precious time in trying to bring others into the Kingdom of God.
Once again, if I have hurt anyone in any way when I tried in the past to defend myself and my family, then I am truly sorry.
My prayer and hope is that one day we can all fulfil this scripture: “Behold how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity… Psalm 133 verse 1
Amen."
LET US ANALYSE CONDER'S TOKEN APOLOGY
Howard Conder published the names of certain people he thought had complained to the Charity Commission! We can all think a lot of unfounded accusatory things, but to put them into the public domain is unscriptural. The Bible tells us that every matter MUST be established by two or three witnesses (2 Corinthians 13:1) Conder did not even have ONE witness! Conder has realised his mistake in this respect which is something, but it does beg the question about the wisdom of such an action. Even by worldly standards this was very foolish. Conder seems to be under the delusion that he should be the judge of whether it was right or wrong for people to report the Revelation Foundation to the Charity Commission. The Bible says that the authorities are God's servants to carry out God's wrath on the wrongdoer (Romans 13:4). If those reporting the Revelation Foundation to the Charity Commission had a genuine case that the law was broken, then they were absolutely within their legal rights in doing so! Conder's opinion about this is irrelevant. Conder believed that there was a conspiracy to bring down RTV and to malign members of his family. Who is Conder to dictate who can and who cannot have conversations with one another about RTV, and what evidence does he have that this was a conspiracy to defame or misrepresent the truth? I find Conder's twisted logic and arrogance quite disgusting, especially considering that he himself has publicly defamed Sarah Acott and others without reason. Ironically, RTV themselves are past masters at misrepresenting financial information and maligning the truth!
I also know that Gordon Pettie (aka Ian Gordon Pettie?) has threatened legal action against believers who have personal grievances against RTV in order to intimidate them into silence. To issue such a threat is despicable. The apostle Paul was appalled because believers were taking legal action against one another in courts before unbelievers. He calls this action shameful - he wrote to the Corinthians church, rather let yourself be wronged, or let yourself be defrauded before doing such a wicked thing:
When one of you has a grievance against another, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life! So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church? I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no one among you wise enough to settle a dispute between the brothers, but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers? To have lawsuits at all with one another is already a defeat for you. Why not rather suffer wrong? Why not rather be defrauded? But you yourselves wrong and defraud—even your own brothers! (1 Corinthians 6:1-8)
Conder refers to the damage of gross financial deception and slander caused by himself and his associates "misunderstandings" !!! The weightiness of what RTV have done is far more serious than misunderstandings - they have brought the way of truth into disrepute (2 Peter 2:2)!
Conder cannot defend the indefensible and he claims to have placed himself under the judgement of Christ so that he can focus his precious time in trying to bring others into the Kingdom of God! How does Conder imagine that the false teachers he airs will bring anyone into the Kingdom of God? Faithful Christians have been hurt terribly in the process of Conder's ambition and empire building at whatever cost. The real cost has tragically been the Gospel of Jesus Christ and Conder will indeed face the judgement of Christ unless he repents. The only thing that Conder has repented of (in writing anyway) is making very serious false accusations against those who were concerned to uphold integrity at RTV. What about gross nepotism, lack of wisdom, threats, outbursts of anger, financial deception and slander? What about airing false teachers with a false gospel and putting the love of money ahead of the Gospel? RTV are STILL airing false teachers for money! What does all this say about Conder's character and his ability to run a so called Christian TV station? The best thing he could do is to shut down Revelation TV completely and stick to running secular clubs, bars and other ungodly pursuits.
Conder's parting shot is for unity Psalm 133:1. Jesus Christ's prayer for unity is dependant upon keeping his word (John 17:6,8) God's word is TRUTH (John 17:17, 19). Truth is something very sadly lacking in both the false teachers that RTV airs and the behaviour of its founder and staff.
Howard Conder has once again used his Facebook page to vilify others and to claim that those with genuine concerns about his behaviour are promoting dissension. Indeed this matter is still unresolved - but why? How long did Sarah Acott and others seek a "peaceful solution"? How many complaints from viewers have RTV completely ignored, going back not days, not months, but years in time? I believe that the time frame for arbitration has long since past. Why does Conder suddenly want to break the mould and do things biblically at this point in time, and what does he hope to achieve by seeking arbitration apart from saving face? If arbitration does go ahead, I will be very interested to see which "pastors" he uses. We can discount Hugh Jackman, whose Mickey Mouse honorary "doctorate" is consistent with his obvious lack of biblical knowledge - such a man is unqualified to call himself a "pastor": http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/revelation-tv-howard-conder-twisted.html
I sincerely doubt if Conder knows any pastors in the Body of Christ who are well respected and full of wisdom. Those men who are qualified for such a task, like Jacob Prasch and Bob Mitchell, shunned Conder long ago. Maybe Conder can get some of his apostate cronies from God TV like Joyce Meyer to arbitrate, or alternatively perhaps one of his Seventh Day Adventist buddies will do the job!
Conder: "Let us not forget the gospel of Jesus Christ to a fallen world...." Is he having a laugh!!!
Howard Conder continues to support a FALSE GOSPEL by giving false teachers a platform for money, he should take his own advice!!!
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. (Galatians 1:8)
"In and around December 2014 and or January 2015, I published certain names on my own Facebook of those whom I thought had complained to the Charity Commission about members of the Revelation Foundation and included myself and members of my own family.
From memory, I named persons such as Sarah nee J., Chris F. and Sheila P. whom I believed had conspired to bring Revelation TV down and or malign members of the Revelation Tv team including members of the Conder Family. Now if this was not the case that these persons in particular did not themselves bring their individual gripes and assumptions nor did they conspire between themselves or others to defame or misrepresent the truth, then I sincerely apologise to one and all.
I personally have come to the position that I place my trust in the living God to bring to a conclusion what I call is at the very least, misunderstandings between some members of the body of Christ and the workings of our ministry within the various organisations associated to the running of Revelation TV.
With the time that is left in my life I would rather not try and defend every tounge that rises up against us,therefore I place myself under the judgement of Christ otherwise we all would be forever spending time on protecting our reputations and lose our focus and precious time in trying to bring others into the Kingdom of God.
Once again, if I have hurt anyone in any way when I tried in the past to defend myself and my family, then I am truly sorry.
My prayer and hope is that one day we can all fulfil this scripture: “Behold how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity… Psalm 133 verse 1
Amen."
LET US ANALYSE CONDER'S TOKEN APOLOGY
Howard Conder published the names of certain people he thought had complained to the Charity Commission! We can all think a lot of unfounded accusatory things, but to put them into the public domain is unscriptural. The Bible tells us that every matter MUST be established by two or three witnesses (2 Corinthians 13:1) Conder did not even have ONE witness! Conder has realised his mistake in this respect which is something, but it does beg the question about the wisdom of such an action. Even by worldly standards this was very foolish. Conder seems to be under the delusion that he should be the judge of whether it was right or wrong for people to report the Revelation Foundation to the Charity Commission. The Bible says that the authorities are God's servants to carry out God's wrath on the wrongdoer (Romans 13:4). If those reporting the Revelation Foundation to the Charity Commission had a genuine case that the law was broken, then they were absolutely within their legal rights in doing so! Conder's opinion about this is irrelevant. Conder believed that there was a conspiracy to bring down RTV and to malign members of his family. Who is Conder to dictate who can and who cannot have conversations with one another about RTV, and what evidence does he have that this was a conspiracy to defame or misrepresent the truth? I find Conder's twisted logic and arrogance quite disgusting, especially considering that he himself has publicly defamed Sarah Acott and others without reason. Ironically, RTV themselves are past masters at misrepresenting financial information and maligning the truth!
I also know that Gordon Pettie (aka Ian Gordon Pettie?) has threatened legal action against believers who have personal grievances against RTV in order to intimidate them into silence. To issue such a threat is despicable. The apostle Paul was appalled because believers were taking legal action against one another in courts before unbelievers. He calls this action shameful - he wrote to the Corinthians church, rather let yourself be wronged, or let yourself be defrauded before doing such a wicked thing:
When one of you has a grievance against another, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life! So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church? I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no one among you wise enough to settle a dispute between the brothers, but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers? To have lawsuits at all with one another is already a defeat for you. Why not rather suffer wrong? Why not rather be defrauded? But you yourselves wrong and defraud—even your own brothers! (1 Corinthians 6:1-8)
Conder refers to the damage of gross financial deception and slander caused by himself and his associates "misunderstandings" !!! The weightiness of what RTV have done is far more serious than misunderstandings - they have brought the way of truth into disrepute (2 Peter 2:2)!
Conder cannot defend the indefensible and he claims to have placed himself under the judgement of Christ so that he can focus his precious time in trying to bring others into the Kingdom of God! How does Conder imagine that the false teachers he airs will bring anyone into the Kingdom of God? Faithful Christians have been hurt terribly in the process of Conder's ambition and empire building at whatever cost. The real cost has tragically been the Gospel of Jesus Christ and Conder will indeed face the judgement of Christ unless he repents. The only thing that Conder has repented of (in writing anyway) is making very serious false accusations against those who were concerned to uphold integrity at RTV. What about gross nepotism, lack of wisdom, threats, outbursts of anger, financial deception and slander? What about airing false teachers with a false gospel and putting the love of money ahead of the Gospel? RTV are STILL airing false teachers for money! What does all this say about Conder's character and his ability to run a so called Christian TV station? The best thing he could do is to shut down Revelation TV completely and stick to running secular clubs, bars and other ungodly pursuits.
Conder's parting shot is for unity Psalm 133:1. Jesus Christ's prayer for unity is dependant upon keeping his word (John 17:6,8) God's word is TRUTH (John 17:17, 19). Truth is something very sadly lacking in both the false teachers that RTV airs and the behaviour of its founder and staff.
JOHN 17
When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.
“I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world. Yours they were, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word. Now they know that everything that you have given me is from you. For I have given them the words that you gave me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me. I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours. All mine are yours, and yours are mine, and I am glorified in them. And I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one. While I was with them, I kept them in your name, which you have given me. I have guarded them, and not one of them has been lost except the son of destruction, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. But now I am coming to you, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have my joy fulfilled in themselves. I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. I do not ask that you take them out of the world, but that you keep them from the evil one.They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth. As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. And for their sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be sanctified in truth.
I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me. Father, I desire that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am, to see my glory that you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world. O righteous Father, even though the world does not know you, I know you, and these know that you have sent me. I made known to them your name, and I will continue to make it known, that the love with which you have loved me may be in them, and I in them.”
UPDATE
Howard Conder via Facebook:
".....Disappointingly, it has since been reported to me that some of those same
folk have chosen to use this Facebook page to promote further dissention
rather than seek a peaceful solution. For this reason, since the apology is
clearly not received and the matter still unresolved, this Facebook page will
be closed whilst I seek Pastoral advice for the purpose of allowing an
arbitration to take place where my accusers can put their cases foward to a
panel of Pastors in the body of Christ that are well respected and are full of
wisdom in order to judge me and my accusers.
I will stand or fall according to their judgement for I fear not what my
accusers say.
Meanwhile let us not forget the declaration of the Gospel of Jesus Christ to
a fallen world.
I hope to start the ball rolling next week so that we can once and for all sort
this situation out.
I think this is scriptural for it is written that those in the Body of Christ have
the responsibility to judge between the brethren as they are soon to judge
the Angels."
COMMENTS
When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.
“I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world. Yours they were, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word. Now they know that everything that you have given me is from you. For I have given them the words that you gave me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me. I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours. All mine are yours, and yours are mine, and I am glorified in them. And I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one. While I was with them, I kept them in your name, which you have given me. I have guarded them, and not one of them has been lost except the son of destruction, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. But now I am coming to you, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have my joy fulfilled in themselves. I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. I do not ask that you take them out of the world, but that you keep them from the evil one.They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth. As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. And for their sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be sanctified in truth.
I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me. Father, I desire that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am, to see my glory that you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world. O righteous Father, even though the world does not know you, I know you, and these know that you have sent me. I made known to them your name, and I will continue to make it known, that the love with which you have loved me may be in them, and I in them.”
UPDATE
Howard Conder via Facebook:
".....Disappointingly, it has since been reported to me that some of those same
folk have chosen to use this Facebook page to promote further dissention
rather than seek a peaceful solution. For this reason, since the apology is
clearly not received and the matter still unresolved, this Facebook page will
be closed whilst I seek Pastoral advice for the purpose of allowing an
arbitration to take place where my accusers can put their cases foward to a
panel of Pastors in the body of Christ that are well respected and are full of
wisdom in order to judge me and my accusers.
I will stand or fall according to their judgement for I fear not what my
accusers say.
Meanwhile let us not forget the declaration of the Gospel of Jesus Christ to
a fallen world.
I hope to start the ball rolling next week so that we can once and for all sort
this situation out.
I think this is scriptural for it is written that those in the Body of Christ have
the responsibility to judge between the brethren as they are soon to judge
the Angels."
COMMENTS
Howard Conder has once again used his Facebook page to vilify others and to claim that those with genuine concerns about his behaviour are promoting dissension. Indeed this matter is still unresolved - but why? How long did Sarah Acott and others seek a "peaceful solution"? How many complaints from viewers have RTV completely ignored, going back not days, not months, but years in time? I believe that the time frame for arbitration has long since past. Why does Conder suddenly want to break the mould and do things biblically at this point in time, and what does he hope to achieve by seeking arbitration apart from saving face? If arbitration does go ahead, I will be very interested to see which "pastors" he uses. We can discount Hugh Jackman, whose Mickey Mouse honorary "doctorate" is consistent with his obvious lack of biblical knowledge - such a man is unqualified to call himself a "pastor": http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/revelation-tv-howard-conder-twisted.html
I sincerely doubt if Conder knows any pastors in the Body of Christ who are well respected and full of wisdom. Those men who are qualified for such a task, like Jacob Prasch and Bob Mitchell, shunned Conder long ago. Maybe Conder can get some of his apostate cronies from God TV like Joyce Meyer to arbitrate, or alternatively perhaps one of his Seventh Day Adventist buddies will do the job!
Conder: "Let us not forget the gospel of Jesus Christ to a fallen world...." Is he having a laugh!!!
Howard Conder continues to support a FALSE GOSPEL by giving false teachers a platform for money, he should take his own advice!!!
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. (Galatians 1:8)
Tuesday 19 May 2015
more revelations about revelation tv - gordon pettie is not so "transparent" about his past!!!
Gordon Pettie
"In the 80's, Gordon Pettie of Revelation TV ran a business called Gordon Pettie Investment Services Ltd who advertised extensively in Christian magazines and church newspapers. See here for evidence, and here for one of his ads.
In 1988 he lost his investment licence because of the Barlow Clowes scandal, and from there went into managing old folks homes with his wife Lorna.
Here is one of the stories of the churches he invested money for (and lost the lot) as mentioned by Sir Fergus Montgomery MP for Altrincham and Sale in the house of commons and recorded in hansard:
'I am always wary of giving publicity to constituents' private problems, and many constituents have told me about their heavy losses over this fiasco. However, a church in Altrincham has been hit by that debacle. A recent article in the Manchester Evening News stated: An Altrincham vicar fears his church has lost £42,500 invested in the crashed £190 million empire of Cheshire tycoon Peter Clowes. Building work at St. John the Evangelist, in St. John's Road, Altrincham, has been left unfinished after construction of a parish and community centre in the west end of the Victorian building stopped days after the crash. It went on to say: they went ahead with the investment on the advice of 'a practising Christian', Mr. Gordon Pettie. His Poynton-based Gordon Pettie Investment Services was last week suspended by Fimbra, the watchdog for financial intermediaries. The money came from the sale of the church hall alongside St. John's, which is a landmark in the Altrincham area. Later in the article the vicar stated: '"What really sold us on this investment was that the brochure for BCI portfolio 68 implied that all the money would be invested in gilts.' " http://www.gordonpettie.n.nu/
Ian Gordon Pettie has been a very busy man in the financial world. It appears that he has held no less than 62 directorships in the past!
https://www.duedil.com/director/910127680/ian-gordon-pettie
Some Background Information About The Barlow Clowes Fraud:
Around 18,000 customers invested their money with Barlow Clowes on the recommendation of intermediaries (of whom Gordon Pettie was one). Barlow Clowes was established as a low risk "bond washing" operation, in which gilt-edged Government bonds were purchased and sold in order to create tax advantages. Investigations uncovered evidence that co founder, Peter Clowes, had diverted much of the investors money in order to finance his extravagant lifestyle. Barlow Clowes ceased trading in May 1988 owing £190 million following a High Court Hearing. The victims included 14,000 pensioners who lost the entirety of their life savings with no recourse, many of whom faced severe hardship and poverty as a result. Eventually Clowes was convicted on 18 counts of making misleading statements and of theft. The fact that Gordon Pettie lost his investment licence as an intermediary as a result of this fraud suggests that he committed a serious breach of the FIMBRA regulations.
https://godvschristianity.wordpress.com/2015/05/20/gordon-pettie-and-the-barlow-clowes-scam/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barlow_Clowes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/8309001/Four-hard-lessons-from-the-Barlow-Clowes-scandal.html
http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/news/409293/UK-Lessons-systematic-swindler---barlow-clowes-affair/?DCMP=ILC-SEARCH
Saturday 9 May 2015
alleged dishonesty and deception at revelation tv - follow up post
This is a follow up to the information I posted yesterday regarding previous employee of Revelation TV, Sarah Acott, and her concerns about alleged dishonesty and deception at Revelation TV:
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/alleged-dishonesty-and-deception-are.html
Below is the reply Sarah Acott received from Peter Darg, Trustee of the Revelation Foundation, after sending the Trustees her two part Building the Foundations Report (transcript on the previous post).
From: PETER DARG xxxxxxxxxx
To: Sarah Acott xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2012, 21:11
Subject: Revelation TV
"Sarah,
Your timely comments about Building the Foundation were very useful in clarifying to the trustees the issues you raised.
We are aware that you could mis-understand the perception raised in some of the fund-raising telecasts from your familiarity with the ministry workings.
Whereas in the minds of the trustees the current arrangements are clear and proper, we do need to express these appeals in a way that doesn't lead to any appearance of misleading viewers.
In short, the channel was started in a sacrificial way by Howard and Lesley by risking their own private assets to finance the work. As the license holders, they had every right to develop the station and sell airtime to various ministries (a common practice by nearly all the Christian channels worldwide). Their vision for the ministry was, however, not to just create another 'pay to pray' channel, but to provide relevant programmes of interest to meet the spiritual needs of a UK audience.
Thus, the idea of the Foundation developed as a way to fund these broadcasts and we have become holders of the license.
At present, out of the 168 hours a week that Revelation is on the air, Howard and Lesley have been granted a mere 20 hours a week for 'paid programming'. Out of this income they are able to pay salaries for their children to work at the channel and to cover all their own costs of living. Indeed, they take no salary from the Foundation in spite of the many hours they put in to the Foundation's broadcast activities. They have also funded major equipment and operating expenses out of their own pockets.
The Foundation is responsible for 148 hours a week of TV and that is why we ask for public support. It is our only source of income to make possible all the live programmes, specials and unique shows that make Revelation so appreciated by viewers. This arrangement is fully compliant with Charity Commission regulations.
All the complications of closing Cocks Crescent facility and moving to Spain have preoccupied staff and trustees for months. Your concerns are well noted and we working now to make the fund-raising programmes quite clear to viewers that the Foundation activities are transparent and what the needs are and how expenses are managed, as we have done all along.
I trust this will give you better insights into the channel.
Blessings,
Peter Darg"
From: Sarah Acott xxxxxxxxxx
To: "gordon@revelationtv.com" <gordon@revelationtv.com>; "lorna@revelationtv.com" <lorna@revelationtv.com>; "alan@revelationtv.com" <alan@revelationtv.com>; "lesley@revelationtv.com" <lesley@revelationtv.com>; "richard.kent777@virginmedia.com" <richard.kent777@virginmedia.com>; "jk.odell@btinternet.com" <jk.odell@btinternet.com>; "peter.darg@me.com" <peter.darg@me.com>; "howard@revelationtv.com" <howard@revelationtv.com>
Sent: Monday, 13 April 2015, 15:38
Subject: A Serious Matter
"Dear Howard
I'm writing in relation to a Facebook post (in November 2014) that I was alerted to by my father. The post is very clearly written about myself and a copy is attached.
In it, there are many false statements and false accusations. The first thing I want to address is your assumption that I have gone to the charity commission. I can tell you I haven't had contact with them and neither has my father.
In relation to the letter from your solicitor regarding a million dollar donation not happening due to my report sent to Peter Darg, I do find it strange that you feel you can blame that on me. I contacted Peter with my report and did so as he is a trustee and has a legal responsibility to investigate these things. If Peter felt the need to disclose the details of my report to 3rd parties I do not see how I can be responsible. It was intended for Trustee’s eyes only, at least initially unless they felt to pursue it further.
Further more, let me take this opportunity to clarify that the report was not written by my father, but he did tell me to hold back a bit so if anything he influenced it in your favour and I do have records to prove this if need be.
Your account of the early days of the channel is very misleading. There were 2 members of paid staff, Vince (who did music) and Steve (the electrician). My younger brother and I were being reimbursed train fare only, as we were travelling in from Essex daily. Things were on this basis for approx 6 months and then a further 4-5 months earning a wage that because I was having to pay for travel from Essex and having to be in most days often for short hours to do scheduling barely gave me enough to buy a sandwich at the end of a day! I burnt through all my savings during this time (around £2k). It also should be noted that I gave up paid full time employment to work for you as a volunteer because I believed in the vision and knew that my skills in TV would be invaluable to you.
The work I did for Revelation was mainly to run the live shows as I was at the time the only experienced all rounder who could run them. In the early days, I also worked in the office, but your accusations of sending money back to viewers I do not understand. Any money sent back to viewers was not my idea. I was 17 at the time and whilst I did eventually end up managing the office as well as the studio, I know that I was only following instruction from the then office manager – John Campbell and Producer - Sarah Tun. This was not malicious on their part either, just a misunderstanding.
This happened in the first weeks of starting the station and was not a decision that I had anything to do with, as I was mainly studio based from day 2 of the station. You have indicated that I took it upon myself to just do this without instruction – I did not. I was as surprised as you were when I was told this was the way we were treating viewer donations, especially knowing you had mortgaged your house, but at 17, didn't challenge a direct instruction from the office manager and producer. If you remember after you fired all the office staff, it was only you, me, my brother and Brian. At this point, Lesley came on board and took over the office.
You are also clearly confused regarding events as you have accused me of saying things that I had never thought, let alone said! I knew you had mortgaged your home and I knew the strain you had put yourselves under financially more than most, as my parents have done similar themselves when buying TV equipment and it was this empathy that led me to help you.
You have me confused with an older woman, who's name I believe was Elizabeth, but we are going back a long way now. The dispute in the office which led to you firing all the office staff was something to do with a comment she had made and some concerns she had.
After receiving an email from you that you had sent to all the staff, I called you straight away and clarified that the comment she had made was not made in a horrible way and that the whole office including myself had come to your defence. I can't remember exactly what she had said, but I do recall a questioning of your mental state and if the pressure was too much for you. We all agreed that there was a lot on your shoulders, but everyone else present including myself and I believe, Sarah Tun and John Campbell, told her that her concerns were not warranted. When I spoke to you, I do recall that you told me that she had been a troublemaker generally and that she had been saying things along the lines of what you are accusing me of. I think you have confused her with me and I don't appreciate it as I gave you a year of my life and loyal support.
After your firing all the office staff, I actually came to your home in Surbiton and trained Lesley on the admin systems etc. If your assertions were true, I would have been fired with all of the office staff, but I continued to work with RTV until that December. I also trained both Luke and Joel in the studio.
Now to my report... It’s very interesting that you have decided to edit and omit all the relevant parts that substantiate what I was saying. Things such as…
In light of Howard’s email to everyone@revelationtv.com, it is now confirmed that all money from airtime sales etc goes to 21st Century TV and that this money goes to Howard and Lesley. There have been many programmes which suggest that Howard and Lesley do not take a wage from the station and I guess to some extent that could be true as they might take it as a dividend, but this is deceptive.
The report also doesn’t hold weight without the transcript, which demonstrates a number of things including that an image of transparency is constantly thrown at viewers. Transparency doesn’t mean just what you want people to see. I will forward my original email to Peter Darg so that everyone can be on the same page.
I wrote the report because for years you had been saying publicly that you didn't take any money from not only the charity, but also the station. People talk of how amazing it is that you don’t take a wage because you said it all the time. If you actually read my transcript between Gordon and Doug, you will see that there was a clear non disclosure. Howard, until the time you sent the email to everyone@revelationtv.com there was no honesty about 21st Century and where you get your money to survive from. It had always been said “through other means”. This is grossly misleading as are the BTF shows which should be said to be exclusively showing the charity arms finances are often explicitly said to be the channels entire finances.
Where did your quote come from that I had said “the Condors are raking it in”? I don't think you have actually read my report properly as I was very explicit that I actually had no problem with you even earning millions from the channel. Also I was clear I had no intentions to take this info public, but I did make clear that all the information I had was in the public domain already and that people like Gordon's blog were so close, but it would only be a matter of time before they connect the dots. All the ministries who buy airtime must be confused as to why they pay 21st Century and why the revenue from sales is not revealed.
My father, brother and myself have served you well. Part of being faithful is also being honest and direct when things are not ok. That's all I was doing with my report and it turns out that everything factual that was written in it is actually true. Peter Darg also confirmed the facts for me in his response, which I will also include in a forward.
In terms of your motives, I can only speculate, but there has been so much talk of transparency and yet one of the largest sources of income had not been declared until recently. This is not transparency and is now subject to a charity commission investigation as a result. My words were direct, but said with love and concern, not malice as you imply.
Can you please tell me what you disagree with factually regarding my report? If I have made a mistake I am happy to apologise, but as far as I know all actual facts relating to finances are now admitted to publically i.e. the existence of 21st Century TV Ltd, when before there was clear denial of money going from the station in any way to yourselves. This was my main concern and has still not been fully addressed.
You have said some very strong words about the Charity Commission and their agenda. Do you really not see a problem with telling donors only part of the picture, yet constantly talking about transparency?
Surely, the Charity Commission have explained to you why they are investigating and what they are unhappy with?
Personally, I can see where this is not just an issue because you are a charity, but generally a problem with misrepresentation. This might also be an issue for Advertising Standards and Ofcom. Do you see where the issue is here? No one minds you making money, but making money secretly and then creating an artificial need for the charity arm of the station is surely something that needs to be looked at? Do you not understand peoples concerns?
Legally, I don’t think it’s a problem for a charity to give it’s profit making side to a limited company, housing associations seem to work on this basis as do other organisations. It’s purely regarding transparency. Do you really believe that you have been transparent?
At the end of the day Howard, I don't really like having to write this email when I am currently working 90hour working weeks. You have all my contact details on the report... you could have called me if you had that much of a problem with me. I also don't understand why you were privy to my report as it was for the trustees, which you are not one of. I'm sure this is some sort of breach and I will now be contacting the charity commission for their advice on this matter.
I hope you can now see that you have falsely accused me and I expect a full retraction and public apology from yourself as I and my father are well known in the Christian media industry and will not stand for my reputation (and my fathers) to be tarnished in this way. Your untrue accusations could prevent me and my father from getting work in the future, which is grossly unfair. My report was sent to Peter Darg as it is his duty as a trustee to address such legitimate concerns.
I will wait 14 days for a response from yourself and the trustees before taking further action regarding the false accusations, but I intend to contact the Charity Commission sooner regarding breach of confidentiality, making false statements and editing out the main points my report for propaganda purposes.
Sincerely
Sarah Acott"
Howard Conder's Facebook post that Sarah Acott refers to above is no longer available to view online. As Sarah rightly says, the second part of her report, i.e. the essential transcript of the conversation between Gordon Pettie and Doug Harris which proves non-disclosure is deceptively omitted. See below:
Howard Conder
December 4 at 1:46am ·
"Now the post I have been putting together that hopefully will enlighten you:
The beginnings of Revelation TV:
I would like to give you a brief outline of how we arrived to where we are today.
I, Howard Conder, am the founder of Revelation TV and a director/shareholder of a company called 21st Century Television Ltd who along with my wife, Lesley Conder, somehow managed to start up Revelation TV (RevTV) against all the odds. To many folk, including our Pastor Chris D. from our Church in Esher, Surrey thought we were mad and this endeavor would fail.
It was our bank manager at the time who said it would work because of our determination.
With my wife's permission, we remortgaged our home at 45 King Charles road where we had fostered over a hundred children over 13 years. We took a huge risk in putting our home on the line to start Revelation TV and the only way we could raise enough finances to launch RevTV was to remortgage our only asset, our family home.
Knowing that we had only 125k to play with we had to be very focused and run a tight ship in order to make it to the launch day (Feb 14th 2003) and even then, once we started to broadcast on the Sky platform, we had a very small amount of time to make an impact before we would run out of money. When I look back, I was absolutely crazy. We had only enough money to last just a few weeks and sure enough we had been broadcasting about four weeks and I realised we were not going to make beyond the end of March 2003. Therefore, I gave notice to those who were providing studio and office facilities that I would have to quit as I didn’t want to leave bad debts.
What happened next was truly amazing…. To cut a long story short, for the whole story is already has been written in the book Gordon Pettie wrote; ‘Hey Howie’, and that is our service providers decided to keep us going for three months.
Anyway, we had a few folk which we paid for their help in those early start up days and some folk kindly volunteered their time, whom we believed at that time, shared the vision we had and that was to have a Christian Channel that would have a more British approach to broadcasting the Gospel message. Not screaming and shouting at the audience and continually begging for money.
I clearly recall that some of those who were helping to run the office were sending back money back to viewers. Viewers, who were sending in funds in order to keep the channel going. These were unsolicited funds as we were prohibited by Ofcom to ask for funds on air and besides, to be frank, I didn't expect money to come in to save Revelation TV from going off the air as I had already spoken to my wife about the fact that we would now face loosing our home as the mortgage we had managed to have by that time was a huge sum somewhere in the region of £500, 000. So both Lesley and I were mentally prepared to lose our family home. We had done our utmost to start the channel and the rest was up to God if He wanted it to continue, then it was now up to Him.
To my utter amazement, funds from the viewers have started to come in big time and in large amounts. I recall cheques for sums as large as £1,000 to £5,000 were coming in daily but as I said earlier, a certain folk in the office were sending the money back to the viewers and when I asked what on earth were they doing? One person replied, well your coming off the air so I am sending the money back to the viewers. Please bear with me as I think you see how relevant this matter is because I believe this very same person is one of the instigators of bringing a complaint about us to the Charity Commission.
To continue with what this person said to me about returning money back to the viewers, which was maybe a misunderstanding on her behalf of what really was happening in that the money was to help RevTV stay on the air, it’s what she said next that really showed me her true colours. .. she said 'I don’t believe you put any money into starting this channel' .... I soon discovered that this person had also convinced others in the office that her actions were appropriate. This clearly under minded my integrity and authority to run this channel so I asked those in the office to leave immediately. This they did and I went home and explained the situation to my wife and asked her to get involved by running the office from home. Lesley had no skills in using a computer so I quickly showed her what to do and that was when she jumped into action to help us deal with the office work. I recall asking my son Joel to help me although he was studying at Kingston College at the time. Joel had to drop his education and come and help me at the studio plus I asked my other son Luke to help as well even though at that time he had no media skills whatsoever.
Due to the sheer volume of work we now faced, having lost a big part of the team, we decided we could no longer foster so we notified Social Services that we would be stopping fostering. This was a big sacrifice for my wife for she was a dedicated foster carer, she adored the children and was so good with working with the parents with the aim to restore the children back to living with their birth parents, where it was deemed possible by Social Services. Lesley became such an accomplished carer for it was the requests of many of the social workers to try and first place the children with us rather than other foster carers and having received many accolades from the Foster management team for our dedication, we were well satisfied and really enjoyed the roll of foster carers. We had no desire to ever cease from this most rewarding work. Lesley and I over 13 years fostered around 130 children. Quite often we were over numbers as it was referred to where we had at one time eight foster children plus our own four children (total 12) . It was Lesley’s life and her love but now been forced to help me with the running of the channel, she didn’t have much of a choice as we now faced loosing our home due to the fact the money we borrowed to start the channel was secured by a charge on our home.
So why is this all relevant to the Charity Commission investigation?
Anyway, I believe a certain Sarah nee J. is one of the dissenting accusatory voices that has either directly or indirectly approached the Charity Commission, for it came to my attention what she had written to one of our trustees a year or two ago, making accusations yet again about me and my family saying that the Conders were making fortunes out of the channel. I also believe that she is in cahoots with Chris F. who again I believe to be another complainant to the Charity Commission. ... also a certain Sheila P. who has been like all these others I that I have named, falsely accusing us of gross misconduct, misappropriation of money, deception etc etc.. .. I can go into this more at length if needed but what I am trying to say is that some folk have taken it upon themselves to falsely accuse us of wrong doing not just in this one complaint to the Charity Commission but have been doing so for many years now and I believe they seem to have convinced the Charity Commission enough by making similar accusations or assumptions about our behavior. I welcome the Charity Commission investigation, for I trust they will discover there is no substance to these claims of wrongdoing. However, I am beginning to doubt that the Charity Commission can be impartial for me thinks they have ulterior motives, like they want to close us down for we teach that we were created rather than believing the lie that life began by and through evolution. Plus we speak out about abortion and that life in the womb is precious and should not be killed. Definitely not PC, as is our biblical stance on same sex relationships being an abomination to God. This is without mentioning our stance with that the Jewish People have every right to the land known as Israel.
Sadly these accusers have come from Christians as I would have expected it from the Gay community for they have accused us of Haters of homosexuals ... if you were interested you might be more enlightened in this matter as I have had so much hate mail from the Gays but the bottom line is that they too cant wait for RevTV to be closed down. ... but somehow i don’t think that they have not brought such allegations ,maybe just one , namely Robert P. or his partner (cant recall his name right now but they sign themselves off at the end of their emails to us as ‘Proud Sodomite’ and ‘Spawn of Satan’)
I have a huge number of emails from this couple, which I have kept in order to prove what they said about us even after having replied to them and reassured them that neither myself nor others in the RevTV team do NOT hate them. All our efforts to engage with them have been to no avail but we did try hard.
We even had Peter Tatchell as a guest on one of our live programmes recently. A most delightful gentle man and I am sure if you were to speak to Peter he would bear out that we were most respectful and very hospitable towards him ....
I should even have expected that maybe a Muslim may have brought a complaint against us but I don't think they would even be a part of this Charity Commission investigation as they are more decent than these so called Christians are who are behind this conspiracy to bring us to our knees.
I can only put it down to jealousy and them not sharing our biblical views on doctrinal issues.
Worth mentioning here which may come as a great surprise to many, is that we don't hate Muslims which has so often been expressed about us in social media and in the news papers for it were true how come we employ a practicing Muslim and have done for some years ???
I believe that these folk accusing us and complaining about us seem to be also annoyed that my family, the Conders, are making a fortune or at least are making a living. How terrible is that to make a living these days ??? We are not making a fortune as you will discover.
And as you will soon find out that they don't even earn a lot of money. And just for the record, my wife and I have received an average income over the last twelve years an average of £40k per annum. Hardly a fortune. And especially if you calculate that we are on call seven days a week with an average of 12 hours a day, (Mon-Fri) …. hardly even a fair income. A cleaner earns more than us when you apply hour for hour worked.
All the Conders have worked very long hours as in deed have Gordon and Lorna Pettie so my point is that I have had enough of people making false assumptions and writing blogs or writing to news papers etc with their theories and assumptions that we are making huge sums of money and now with the Charity Commission making announcements that basically make us out to be charlatans, I now have asked the trustees to give me back RTV. .. What I initially wanted to do was to give RevTV to the Revelation Foundation charity thinking this was the right and fair thing to do as the viewers are now supporting the channel to such a greater level than ever so we could take off the air many of the paid ministries which we would rather not have had on our channel but for financial reasons we had little other choice at the time. This was the time before we were receiving adequate support from the viewers. I always wanted RevTV to be a TV broadcaster that would be more culturally sensitive to the British mind set.
Having said; I don't want to live off of viewer’s money, as my pride wouldn't let me. I wanted to work for my living as an independent person therefore an agreement was eventually made for me to hand over RevTV to the Revelation Foundation, and for this to become a reality, the process of handing over the companies and shares of those companies linked to the running of RevTV including Revelation TV Europe SL , began years ago.
The process has been a nightmare, especially here in Spain where the red tape is even greater than the UK where everything has to be notarized with all parties having to be present at the time of notarizing documents. Because the trustees were living outside of Spain, as far away as Canada, it was so difficult to coordinate. This is why the process is still ongoing. Even yesterday Lesley had to go to a notary in the UK to get a step closer to make this hand over complete. It seems never ending!!! So frustrating.
However, enough of that for the moment, now to the point. I have written to the trustees to ask for the return of RevTV come back to the Conders. What was meant to be a goodwill gesture has become the biggest nightmare of my life. Its been so hurtful to hear false accusations and cruel murmurings against us. It has made me cry, angry and thinking that I should just give up and live a normal life, or by God's grace and favour, somehow just start all over again.
It's a sad day to be in a position of having built up an organisation. Which for the first time has been adequately supported by its audience our lovely Church Without Walls viewers. Unlike the BBC WHERE we the viewers are forced to pay the license fee (to the tune of 3.2 Billion a year) whether we like the BBC or not we are forced to pay.... such compulsory funding from folk like us goes to produce filth. We also have to put up with the constant use of four letter words, expletives and other immoral ungodly programmes, which we can't or won't watch yet we are forced to fund them through the license fee. Whereas, our viewers willingly offer financial SUPPORT every month to operate RevTV. A very different situation to that of the BBC and now the Charity Commission says we are spending too much on broadcasting just beggars belief.
In recent weeks, it was in the news that the BBC spent 10 million on redundancy payments to some staff members only to re engage them again. Outrageous! Also the BBC is self-regulating and somehow it has become acceptable to both the BBC and the modern day producers and management team to broadcast programmes which contain foul language whereas others have to comply with Ofcom regulations. It’s a joke.
Another item worth mentioning is for the first time we have made an appeal to raise funds to purchase premises where we would RevTV would have their own studio and offices. That looks like that will also be jeopardized. This also must have got right up the noses of our dissenters as each day we made it known to our viewers just how much was coming in to achieve the objective of building a studio. IS IT ANY WONDER THE TIMING OF THESE COMPLAINTS ARE MADE NOW ? ..
Anyway, that aside, I am a fighter for justice and fairness and I don’t mind starting again if I have to.
We have always sort to conduct ourselves with integrity. .. many times I have been given money which folk had said this is for you Howard and every time I have given it to the Revelation charity. One such gift as we call them was €20,000, I felt it that the Charity needed it more than myself so I gave the cheque to Gordon to put in the charity. My son Luke said I was mad as he said you could have bought yourself a car for that dad.
I also made a contribution, a gift to the Revelation Foundation charity of £350,00 in one lump sum. ...my accountants said I should consider only making a much smaller contribution to the charity and put the majority into a pension fund as I didn't have a pension fund. I was determined to not take that advice so decided to gift it all to the Revelation Foundation charity.
This has not been the last gift we as the Conders have made to the Revelation Foundation, so it begs the question. Why would we be doing this if we didn’t believe in the VISION ?????
Being accused by Sarah nee J. where she wrote: ‘the Conders raking it in' as some say we are doing.. Simple maths would show that we as the Conders have put in to the Revelation Foundation far more than has ever come back to us by either wages or benefits from the Revelation Foundation and or 21st Century Television Ltd.
Now with regards to our family working and getting paid by the Revelation Foundation: Hearing what I am heard last week has again really upset me that I have requested to the trustees that I don't want members of my family being paid by the Revelation Foundation and that as soon as possible Lesley and I will pay them.. Call it pride.
Also when there has been a need like television equipment to be replaced or bought which is essential to the running of the channel, and knowing that the Revelation Foundation has not sufficient funds to buy it... We, the Conders buy it . We did so last year when all our cameras needed to be purchased and not wanting to burden our viewers with this expense. . (Ironically, we do have the legal right to ask the viewers for financial support but I felt that many of our viewers would support such a request but knowing this would mean it could cause some great hardship I refused to go down this route of appealing to them to fund these cameras as the total was approaching half a million) so as 21st Century Television Ltd had the funds to make these purchases, therefore we bought them and please note that we the Conders did not ask nor expect to be reimbursed for this half a million pound or so expenditure but some months later, Gordon Pettie thought it was right for the Revelation Foundation to reimburse 21st Century and subsequently an arrangement to make monthly payments was arranged with the help of their accountants in what was a proper and legal method and above board.
All this has been greatly misunderstood by our enemies and sadly from what I am hearing so has the Charity Commission with thanks to Sarah nee J’s false reckonings where Sarah nee J. wrote to the trustees of the Revelation Foundation circa October 2012:
'Dear Peter and Trustees
I originally wrote this report to you in February, but was asked not to send it at the time (by her father) due to the then climate that existed at Revelation. There are a few things I do not agree with regarding the way that the channel operates, however today I just want to focus on finances.
Peter, (a trustee) I don’t know if you would remember me. I was the then 17 year old girl who used to run the live shows during the first year of the channel?
I have knowledge of the inner workings of the channel, as I didn’t just do the live shows, but also training others, scheduling and working in the office before it was moved to Surbiton. During this time I learnt about the finances, airtime sales etc so have put my own knowledge together with that available on the internet and come to the following conclusions. The conclusions below were written back in February before Howard’s email to ????? (the team )now look as being correct. I have not edited this much further so a lot of this is now possibly old news, so please bear with it.
The issue I wish to raise is that donors to the channel are being misled in the way that funds are raised and presented on the Building the Foundation programme. The programme leads the viewer to believe that the finances reported on the pie charts are a representation of the entire channels financial operation. This is not true and could be accused of being fraudulent. I am only bringing this to you because I believe that this is something that you as the legal overseers should be aware of.
It became obvious to me when I watched one of the first Building the Foundation programmes years ago. The income stated leaves out one of the largest income streams into the channel – airtime and advertising sales. Having worked in the office during the set up of the channel I know about the 21st Century television account and believe that the money from this huge source of income is going straight into this account. From what I can gather from the charities commission website 21st Century Television makes donations to the Revelation Foundation. The donation total for 2009 was £350,000 I believe. I have a problem with this as by my maths this is nowhere near the total that is received in airtime and advertising. Using very conservative figures I come to the below sums.
Airtime at £350 per 30 min slot x 4 paying ministries = £1400 per day x 365 = £511,000 per year
Advertising at £15 per spot x 12 = £180 per day x 365 = £65,700
As you can see from this very conservative estimate there is around £200,000, which is going into this account. Howard and Gordon have always said “come and look at our books” I’m sure they would be happy for someone who hasn’t a clue how a station is run to come and look, but I believe this over confidence is a bluff.
I do not know what is happening to the money that goes into 21st Century, but as Trustees I hope you do. The reason I am bringing this up is the dishonesty and deception. When I tell people I used to work for the station they often comment about the transparency of the finances and how wonderful it is to see exactly where the money goes. The problem is they are not seeing where all the money goes and if people found out what sort of a response should we expect from the poor old ladies at home who give “the widow’s mite” in good faith that the money is needed and that there is transparency. How would Jesus respond?
My own suspicion is that 21st Century tops up the Revelation Foundation at the amount it needs. If I am correct then how wrong is it to convince people of a need, which isn’t real? This is fraud and those who are aware of this deception need to repent. I am aware that for some of you however, that this would be unknown.
There needs to be either a clear distinction for viewers between 21st Century Television and the Revelation Foundation or preferably all money to flow through the Revelation Foundation as this would give the clarity and transparency that the viewers expect. Also I cannot see the charities commission looking favourably on the current reporting of finances.
Considering that in the initial mission statement of the channel was a very clear statement of not asking for funds on air – things have not only gone very far from the vision, but also veered into an area of possible criminality.
Please see my other document BTF Report, which is a transcript of the last Building the Foundation programme (February 2012).
I would like to make it clear that the last thing I want is for this information to go into the public domain. I have sat on this for years and feel I should have confronted earlier, but feel that with the current Trustees there is an opportunity for things to be put right.
I pray you will have the strength and courage to do what is needed.
Howard’s email said that he didn’t feel comfortable taking from “the widows mite”, which sounds very sacrificial when said in that way, however by taking the entirety of the stations earned (as opposed to donated) money they have created a deficit which the “widows mite” then has to fill. Personally I cannot see this as a good argument and whilst I don’t wish to be cynical, I believe this is done in this way so that the viewers cannot see how much money is being taken by Howard and Lesley.
I realise that is a heavy accusation, however I do accounts for a charity myself and can’t see this any other way. I have no problem with Howard and Lesley taking even millions every year as that is their choice. However it is not being fair or honest with the viewers and those who do give the “widows mite”.
I would never go public with this information, as I spent 6 months as a volunteer and a further 6 months on a wage that covered my train fare and not much more. So for me to see something that I invested so much of myself into be brought down by either the charity commission or a police investigation would be a personal loss. However after Howard’s email I’d be very surprised if no one else did as it’s not difficult to connect the dots.
You are welcome to contact me with any questions or queries sarahacott@ ?????'
END OF QUOTE FROM Sarah nee J.
Wow…. What an audacious, ignorant and even libelous set of accusations Sara nee J. has made. I am totally shocked at her false assumptions.
I am sure when all is revealed that it will prove that Sarah is totally out of order.
For as I said earlier, my wife and I have received an average income over the last twelve years an average of £40k per annum each. Which is no where near the amounts Sarah nee J. has assumed we have made. And this past year both Lesley and myself donated 25k each to the Revelation Foundation alone without mentioning other charities we have given to this past year.
Meanwhile, while these scurrilous accusations continue to be made, my faith is in God to provide and He has shown me all through my walk of faith that he has been faithful to His promises and that's where I want to return to so we can get on with the job of ministering to our lovely Church Without Walls congregation. All this is just a big distraction.
God have mercy on you all who have brought these false charges for you know only too well what you do.
I haven't taken legal advice or sought any approval for what I am writing to you today, therefore I guess I am at risk of being misunderstood or being misquoted but I want you to know what is on my heart and if you don't or can't read that then so be it.
Ironically, most of our viewers have been amazing since the Charity Commission’s press release and the viewers have rallied to the challenges we now have. Many have increased their financial support and some have for the first time given to the Revelation Foundation charity. One such gift was a staggering fifteen thousand pounds. PTL.
I even heard when i was in the office where one person called in to offer us encouragement saying he was not a Christian but wanted Revelation TV to continue and wished us well and to continue doing a good job.
So what I believe was meant to harm us has only turned out to be for our good. We are blessed to have very discerning viewers.
Please forgive my lack of grammar as I'm not well educated and I'm not going to spend the time checking the spelling etc as I have a lot to do so I apologise for any mistakes.
I apologise for not pulling any punches with you for as you will sense, I am very upset. Try and put yourself in my position or the position you have put the trustees in and especially Gordon and Lorna Pettie.
There is much more to share and I am happy to be very open about these matters as I feel it’s not me that they are personally attacking or accusing but the work or ministry we have in reaching people who need to hear the full gospel of Jesus Christ.
May God be my judge and deal ever so severely with me if there is anything I have done wrong, for I would not want any soul to stumble and not enter the Kingdom of God on account of me. I would rather throw myself in the sea.
I don’t like any of this, but Lord, let your will be done in Jesus name. Amen !
Yours most sincerely,
Howard"
What stands out to me about Howard Conder's rather rambling self congratulatory Facebook post above is that he has betrayed the gospel of Jesus Christ for impure motives (2 Corinthians 2:17; 1Thessalonians 2:3). Conder writes that he wishes to "....take off the air many of the paid ministries which we would rather not have had on our channel but for financial reasons we had little other choice at the time." This tells me that he has a conflict between building up his TV station and proclaiming the "full Gospel of Jesus Christ" - the true gospel that is (1 Corinthians 9:16)! It is quite clear which is more important to him and I believe this is a major reason why he is experiencing problems. RTV continue air out and out deceivers like Jesse Duplantis, Sid Roth, Joyce Meyer and Seventh Day Adventists to name but a few - and for no other reason than money!!!
No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money. (Matthew 6:24; Luke 16:13)
Howard Conder: "..... I would not want any soul to stumble and not enter the Kingdom of God on account of me. I would rather throw myself in the sea." Is Howard Conder causing any "little ones" who believe in Jesus Christ to stumble by airing false teachers and deceivers (Matthew 18:6)?
"One of these little ones. Whether child or adult, a pure, simple soul, which has a certain faith it be not strong enough to resist all attack." http://biblehub.com/matthew/18-6.htm
Please read below further communications between Sarah Acott, Gordon Pettie and Alan Tun:
From: Alan Tun <alan@revelationtv.com>
To: 'Sarah Acott' xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2015, 17:16
Subject: RE: A Serious Matter
"Hi Sarah,
I am coming to London for the next trustee meeting on Wednesday 20th May. I can meet you in London on Thursday 21st in the morning if you´re free. I know you said you are normally at work during the week, but rather than not tell you I was coming to London, I thought I should at least give you the information. We would reimburse your train ticket if you were to come in as we wouldn´t want you to be out of pocket.
Every blessing,
Alan Tun
RevelationTV"
On 5 May 2015, at 16:08, Sarah Acott xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
"Hi Alan
Thank you for your email. Unfortunately, I won't be able to meet on a Thursday as it would mean closing my business for the day and I can't afford to lose a days trading at the moment as I'm in the process of expanding.
I'm quite disappointed that I've had no response from either Howard or the Trustees. I don't know if Howard is still trying to discredit me in order to exonerate himself, but he can't lie his way out of this one. It's gone too far and I can, if need be, get people to testify that I was at the station after the office staff were fired. I still even have contact with some people who I met at the station after the this time.
The deadline of 2 weeks lapsed over a week ago. I gave a grace period because Howard was abroad, but still I have heard nothing from either Howard of the Trustees. Whilst I appreciate our conversation Alan, this needs to come from Howard and the Trustees directly.
I will give until Friday for a proper response to my email dated 13th April. I took the time away from my hectic schedule of 90 hour working weeks to write it and I expect Howard to do the same under the circumstances. He had the time to write the offending Facebook post and many others like it, so I know he has the time to put this right personally.
As an alternative, I believe I am entitled to a right of reply and am happy to talk to Howard live on TV via phone and if he truly believes he is in the right then he will be happy to debate me publicly.
If this doesn't happen I will take this public and make sure that everyone knows what Howard has been doing to cover his tracks. I'm sorry Alan, but this is very serious and I do need Howard and the Trustees to personally acknowledge this.
I have contacted the charity commission already as I felt it was the right thing to do, but am holding off going public until Friday to give Howard and the trustees one last chance.
Kind regards
Sarah"
From: Gordon Pettie <gordon@revelationtv.com>
To: Sarah Acott xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: trustees@revelationtv.com
Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2015, 11:21
Subject: Re: A Serious Matter
"Dear Sarah
Thank you for your email of the 5th May. I am writing to you in my capacity as Chairmen of the Revelation Foundation. I confirm receipt of your email of the 13th April.
I note that you say you have been in touch with the Charity Commission since your email of the 13th April. Presumably the Charity Commission are now aware of the points you wrote to us as a Charity about. In view of this fact I consider that we are best waiting to see how they wish to proceed.
However there are a number of general points that I am willing to make at this time concerning your email of the 13th April.
Your letter of the 13th April is addressed to Howard, with the trustees copied in to it. As you are aware Howard is not a trustee of the Revelation Foundation and has not been for many years.
As a Trust we were not involved in the day to day running of the TV station during the period when you were involved. Therefore we have no comment to make on the points you raise concerning your work at that time.
The Facebook page that you refer to in your email/letter is a personal one that Howard is responsible for and as a Charity we have no involvement with it. When we were made aware of the posting that you refer to, we advised Howard to take it down, and my understanding is that it was removed. I am not aware that any copies of that posting are still on the web.
You are correct in saying that you stated in writing when you sent your original report to Peter Darg that it was your intention that it was for ‘trustees eyes only’. However in view of the serious allegations that you made in it, we felt it necessary to investigate the matter further and to do that we needed to make the report available to Howard to read so that he could answer points in it concerning himself and the Conder family. The Charity Commission already have copies of the minutes of Trustees meetings so they are aware of that investigation.
We take your concerns seriously but in view of the involvement by you of the Charity Commission, i really believe that we have to wait their decision on how to proceed with your complaint.
With kind regards
Gordon Pettie
Chairman
Revelation Foundation"
From: Sarah Acott xxxxxxxxxx
Date: 08/05/2015 10:25 (GMT+00:00)
To: Gordon Pettie <gordon@revelationtv.com>, Howard <howard@revelationtv.com>, Alan Tun <alan@revelationtv.com>, lesley@revelationtv.com
Cc: trustees@revelationtv.com
Subject: Re: A Serious Matter
"Dear Gordon
Thank you for your email, but unfortunately it seems you are too concerned with distancing yourself from this situation that you cannot even show genuine sympathy or realise the implications of my taking this situation public.
Gordon, to be frank, you are the person whom Howard has credited for the set up of the charity and also therefore, the fundraising tactics in question. In many respects, I actually hold you more accountable for the lack of transparency, as Howard would have to some extent just been going with your guidance.
I would appreciate a copy of the minutes relating to my report from 2012 that you say the charity commission have. I feel you at least owe me that.
I can see that you are not willing to comment, so on that basis, perhaps we will have to wait on the charity commission. However, if no one changes my mind the general public can also decide. I have everything prepared and ready to send and I feel to warn you that Howard's editing of a report for propaganda is likely to trend very quickly.
Gordon, I'd much rather work with the charity than pull it down. It's not beyond redemption, but right now I don't think there's any reason to salvage it as the rot is coming from the top (and that's not just Howard).
I'm gutted that only Alan, who is no longer a trustee, was willing to actually try to deal with this situation. I wanted an opportunity to salvage the channel, but without repentance, this is not possible and under these circumstances, God can't help you either.
Howard and you the trustees have until midday to give me a reason why Revelation it worth saving and a willingness to deal with the rot.
Kind regards
Sarah"
From: Gordon Pettie <gordon@revelationtv.com>
To: Sarah Acott xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "trustees@revelationtv.com" <trustees@revelationtv.com>
Sent: Friday, 8 May 2015, 11:23
Subject: Re: A Serious Matter
Dear Sarah
I cannot operate with a gun to my head. You have no idea what is going on in our lives and to say you give me and the trustees less than two hours to reply to your email is not a situation I can work within.
Alan has been trying for to arrange to meet you on our behalf. My understanding is he is still trying to make that happen. He has a free hand on our behalf to do that.
You suggest that I am trying to distant myself from your accusations and not showing repentance. Quite frankly I take exception to some of your comments.
'Rot at the top' - Presumably you are referring to me.
'God cannot help you' - I am willing to trust my Lord.
I leave you to decide what you do. That is not my decision.
Christian greetings
Gordon Pettie
Revelation Foundation"
From: Sarah Acott xxxxxxxxxx
To: Gordon Pettie <gordon@revelationtv.com>; Howard <howard@revelationtv.com>; Alan Tun <alan@revelationtv.com>; "lesley@revelationtv.com" <lesley@revelationtv.com>
Cc: "trustees@revelationtv.com" <trustees@revelationtv.com>
Sent: Friday, 8 May 2015, 11:52
Subject: Re: A Serious Matter
"Dear Gordon
You have had weeks to respond and haven't. As Trustees you have the ability and duty to take disciplinary action with Howard regarding his lies and editing of my report. You haven't even given me an apology for the situation, with which you are involved by association even if you didn't personally write the article.
The gun to your head, is the one you put there and I don't want to pull the trigger, but will if needed. I've asked you for a reason not to pull the trigger and instead you give me the opposite. A little humility and repentance goes a long way.
I have just had a conversation with Alan Tun. He has informed me that Howard refuses to read my emails. The reason he won't is because he knows he has lied and reading the truth will make it real.
Howard has always been a bit unpredictable, but to do what he has done and be allowed not to face the truth is madness. That is what you trustees are here to do. You are supposed to hold people accountable and you have all failed.
Howard can't bury his head in the sand forever and you are not protecting him or Revelation by allowing him to continue like this. If Howard cannot face me, how will he face the genera public when he is exposed?
Kind Regards
Sarah"
UPDATE
Sarah Acott has now published these things in her own words: https://godvschristianity.wordpress.com/2015/05/14/why-i-think-revelation-tv-is-being-investigated-by-the-charity-commission/
Gordon Pettie And The Barlow Clowes Fraud: http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/more-revelations-about-revelation-tv.html
http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/alleged-dishonesty-and-deception-are.html
Below is the reply Sarah Acott received from Peter Darg, Trustee of the Revelation Foundation, after sending the Trustees her two part Building the Foundations Report (transcript on the previous post).
From: PETER DARG xxxxxxxxxx
To: Sarah Acott xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2012, 21:11
Subject: Revelation TV
"Sarah,
Your timely comments about Building the Foundation were very useful in clarifying to the trustees the issues you raised.
We are aware that you could mis-understand the perception raised in some of the fund-raising telecasts from your familiarity with the ministry workings.
Whereas in the minds of the trustees the current arrangements are clear and proper, we do need to express these appeals in a way that doesn't lead to any appearance of misleading viewers.
In short, the channel was started in a sacrificial way by Howard and Lesley by risking their own private assets to finance the work. As the license holders, they had every right to develop the station and sell airtime to various ministries (a common practice by nearly all the Christian channels worldwide). Their vision for the ministry was, however, not to just create another 'pay to pray' channel, but to provide relevant programmes of interest to meet the spiritual needs of a UK audience.
Thus, the idea of the Foundation developed as a way to fund these broadcasts and we have become holders of the license.
At present, out of the 168 hours a week that Revelation is on the air, Howard and Lesley have been granted a mere 20 hours a week for 'paid programming'. Out of this income they are able to pay salaries for their children to work at the channel and to cover all their own costs of living. Indeed, they take no salary from the Foundation in spite of the many hours they put in to the Foundation's broadcast activities. They have also funded major equipment and operating expenses out of their own pockets.
The Foundation is responsible for 148 hours a week of TV and that is why we ask for public support. It is our only source of income to make possible all the live programmes, specials and unique shows that make Revelation so appreciated by viewers. This arrangement is fully compliant with Charity Commission regulations.
All the complications of closing Cocks Crescent facility and moving to Spain have preoccupied staff and trustees for months. Your concerns are well noted and we working now to make the fund-raising programmes quite clear to viewers that the Foundation activities are transparent and what the needs are and how expenses are managed, as we have done all along.
I trust this will give you better insights into the channel.
Blessings,
Peter Darg"
From: Sarah Acott xxxxxxxxxx
To: "gordon@revelationtv.com" <gordon@revelationtv.com>; "lorna@revelationtv.com" <lorna@revelationtv.com>; "alan@revelationtv.com" <alan@revelationtv.com>; "lesley@revelationtv.com" <lesley@revelationtv.com>; "richard.kent777@virginmedia.com" <richard.kent777@virginmedia.com>; "jk.odell@btinternet.com" <jk.odell@btinternet.com>; "peter.darg@me.com" <peter.darg@me.com>; "howard@revelationtv.com" <howard@revelationtv.com>
Sent: Monday, 13 April 2015, 15:38
Subject: A Serious Matter
"Dear Howard
I'm writing in relation to a Facebook post (in November 2014) that I was alerted to by my father. The post is very clearly written about myself and a copy is attached.
In it, there are many false statements and false accusations. The first thing I want to address is your assumption that I have gone to the charity commission. I can tell you I haven't had contact with them and neither has my father.
In relation to the letter from your solicitor regarding a million dollar donation not happening due to my report sent to Peter Darg, I do find it strange that you feel you can blame that on me. I contacted Peter with my report and did so as he is a trustee and has a legal responsibility to investigate these things. If Peter felt the need to disclose the details of my report to 3rd parties I do not see how I can be responsible. It was intended for Trustee’s eyes only, at least initially unless they felt to pursue it further.
Further more, let me take this opportunity to clarify that the report was not written by my father, but he did tell me to hold back a bit so if anything he influenced it in your favour and I do have records to prove this if need be.
Your account of the early days of the channel is very misleading. There were 2 members of paid staff, Vince (who did music) and Steve (the electrician). My younger brother and I were being reimbursed train fare only, as we were travelling in from Essex daily. Things were on this basis for approx 6 months and then a further 4-5 months earning a wage that because I was having to pay for travel from Essex and having to be in most days often for short hours to do scheduling barely gave me enough to buy a sandwich at the end of a day! I burnt through all my savings during this time (around £2k). It also should be noted that I gave up paid full time employment to work for you as a volunteer because I believed in the vision and knew that my skills in TV would be invaluable to you.
The work I did for Revelation was mainly to run the live shows as I was at the time the only experienced all rounder who could run them. In the early days, I also worked in the office, but your accusations of sending money back to viewers I do not understand. Any money sent back to viewers was not my idea. I was 17 at the time and whilst I did eventually end up managing the office as well as the studio, I know that I was only following instruction from the then office manager – John Campbell and Producer - Sarah Tun. This was not malicious on their part either, just a misunderstanding.
This happened in the first weeks of starting the station and was not a decision that I had anything to do with, as I was mainly studio based from day 2 of the station. You have indicated that I took it upon myself to just do this without instruction – I did not. I was as surprised as you were when I was told this was the way we were treating viewer donations, especially knowing you had mortgaged your house, but at 17, didn't challenge a direct instruction from the office manager and producer. If you remember after you fired all the office staff, it was only you, me, my brother and Brian. At this point, Lesley came on board and took over the office.
You are also clearly confused regarding events as you have accused me of saying things that I had never thought, let alone said! I knew you had mortgaged your home and I knew the strain you had put yourselves under financially more than most, as my parents have done similar themselves when buying TV equipment and it was this empathy that led me to help you.
You have me confused with an older woman, who's name I believe was Elizabeth, but we are going back a long way now. The dispute in the office which led to you firing all the office staff was something to do with a comment she had made and some concerns she had.
After receiving an email from you that you had sent to all the staff, I called you straight away and clarified that the comment she had made was not made in a horrible way and that the whole office including myself had come to your defence. I can't remember exactly what she had said, but I do recall a questioning of your mental state and if the pressure was too much for you. We all agreed that there was a lot on your shoulders, but everyone else present including myself and I believe, Sarah Tun and John Campbell, told her that her concerns were not warranted. When I spoke to you, I do recall that you told me that she had been a troublemaker generally and that she had been saying things along the lines of what you are accusing me of. I think you have confused her with me and I don't appreciate it as I gave you a year of my life and loyal support.
After your firing all the office staff, I actually came to your home in Surbiton and trained Lesley on the admin systems etc. If your assertions were true, I would have been fired with all of the office staff, but I continued to work with RTV until that December. I also trained both Luke and Joel in the studio.
Now to my report... It’s very interesting that you have decided to edit and omit all the relevant parts that substantiate what I was saying. Things such as…
In light of Howard’s email to everyone@revelationtv.com, it is now confirmed that all money from airtime sales etc goes to 21st Century TV and that this money goes to Howard and Lesley. There have been many programmes which suggest that Howard and Lesley do not take a wage from the station and I guess to some extent that could be true as they might take it as a dividend, but this is deceptive.
The report also doesn’t hold weight without the transcript, which demonstrates a number of things including that an image of transparency is constantly thrown at viewers. Transparency doesn’t mean just what you want people to see. I will forward my original email to Peter Darg so that everyone can be on the same page.
I wrote the report because for years you had been saying publicly that you didn't take any money from not only the charity, but also the station. People talk of how amazing it is that you don’t take a wage because you said it all the time. If you actually read my transcript between Gordon and Doug, you will see that there was a clear non disclosure. Howard, until the time you sent the email to everyone@revelationtv.com there was no honesty about 21st Century and where you get your money to survive from. It had always been said “through other means”. This is grossly misleading as are the BTF shows which should be said to be exclusively showing the charity arms finances are often explicitly said to be the channels entire finances.
Where did your quote come from that I had said “the Condors are raking it in”? I don't think you have actually read my report properly as I was very explicit that I actually had no problem with you even earning millions from the channel. Also I was clear I had no intentions to take this info public, but I did make clear that all the information I had was in the public domain already and that people like Gordon's blog were so close, but it would only be a matter of time before they connect the dots. All the ministries who buy airtime must be confused as to why they pay 21st Century and why the revenue from sales is not revealed.
My father, brother and myself have served you well. Part of being faithful is also being honest and direct when things are not ok. That's all I was doing with my report and it turns out that everything factual that was written in it is actually true. Peter Darg also confirmed the facts for me in his response, which I will also include in a forward.
In terms of your motives, I can only speculate, but there has been so much talk of transparency and yet one of the largest sources of income had not been declared until recently. This is not transparency and is now subject to a charity commission investigation as a result. My words were direct, but said with love and concern, not malice as you imply.
Can you please tell me what you disagree with factually regarding my report? If I have made a mistake I am happy to apologise, but as far as I know all actual facts relating to finances are now admitted to publically i.e. the existence of 21st Century TV Ltd, when before there was clear denial of money going from the station in any way to yourselves. This was my main concern and has still not been fully addressed.
You have said some very strong words about the Charity Commission and their agenda. Do you really not see a problem with telling donors only part of the picture, yet constantly talking about transparency?
Surely, the Charity Commission have explained to you why they are investigating and what they are unhappy with?
Personally, I can see where this is not just an issue because you are a charity, but generally a problem with misrepresentation. This might also be an issue for Advertising Standards and Ofcom. Do you see where the issue is here? No one minds you making money, but making money secretly and then creating an artificial need for the charity arm of the station is surely something that needs to be looked at? Do you not understand peoples concerns?
Legally, I don’t think it’s a problem for a charity to give it’s profit making side to a limited company, housing associations seem to work on this basis as do other organisations. It’s purely regarding transparency. Do you really believe that you have been transparent?
At the end of the day Howard, I don't really like having to write this email when I am currently working 90hour working weeks. You have all my contact details on the report... you could have called me if you had that much of a problem with me. I also don't understand why you were privy to my report as it was for the trustees, which you are not one of. I'm sure this is some sort of breach and I will now be contacting the charity commission for their advice on this matter.
I hope you can now see that you have falsely accused me and I expect a full retraction and public apology from yourself as I and my father are well known in the Christian media industry and will not stand for my reputation (and my fathers) to be tarnished in this way. Your untrue accusations could prevent me and my father from getting work in the future, which is grossly unfair. My report was sent to Peter Darg as it is his duty as a trustee to address such legitimate concerns.
I will wait 14 days for a response from yourself and the trustees before taking further action regarding the false accusations, but I intend to contact the Charity Commission sooner regarding breach of confidentiality, making false statements and editing out the main points my report for propaganda purposes.
Sincerely
Sarah Acott"
Howard Conder's Facebook post that Sarah Acott refers to above is no longer available to view online. As Sarah rightly says, the second part of her report, i.e. the essential transcript of the conversation between Gordon Pettie and Doug Harris which proves non-disclosure is deceptively omitted. See below:
Howard Conder
December 4 at 1:46am ·
"Now the post I have been putting together that hopefully will enlighten you:
The beginnings of Revelation TV:
I would like to give you a brief outline of how we arrived to where we are today.
I, Howard Conder, am the founder of Revelation TV and a director/shareholder of a company called 21st Century Television Ltd who along with my wife, Lesley Conder, somehow managed to start up Revelation TV (RevTV) against all the odds. To many folk, including our Pastor Chris D. from our Church in Esher, Surrey thought we were mad and this endeavor would fail.
It was our bank manager at the time who said it would work because of our determination.
With my wife's permission, we remortgaged our home at 45 King Charles road where we had fostered over a hundred children over 13 years. We took a huge risk in putting our home on the line to start Revelation TV and the only way we could raise enough finances to launch RevTV was to remortgage our only asset, our family home.
Knowing that we had only 125k to play with we had to be very focused and run a tight ship in order to make it to the launch day (Feb 14th 2003) and even then, once we started to broadcast on the Sky platform, we had a very small amount of time to make an impact before we would run out of money. When I look back, I was absolutely crazy. We had only enough money to last just a few weeks and sure enough we had been broadcasting about four weeks and I realised we were not going to make beyond the end of March 2003. Therefore, I gave notice to those who were providing studio and office facilities that I would have to quit as I didn’t want to leave bad debts.
What happened next was truly amazing…. To cut a long story short, for the whole story is already has been written in the book Gordon Pettie wrote; ‘Hey Howie’, and that is our service providers decided to keep us going for three months.
Anyway, we had a few folk which we paid for their help in those early start up days and some folk kindly volunteered their time, whom we believed at that time, shared the vision we had and that was to have a Christian Channel that would have a more British approach to broadcasting the Gospel message. Not screaming and shouting at the audience and continually begging for money.
I clearly recall that some of those who were helping to run the office were sending back money back to viewers. Viewers, who were sending in funds in order to keep the channel going. These were unsolicited funds as we were prohibited by Ofcom to ask for funds on air and besides, to be frank, I didn't expect money to come in to save Revelation TV from going off the air as I had already spoken to my wife about the fact that we would now face loosing our home as the mortgage we had managed to have by that time was a huge sum somewhere in the region of £500, 000. So both Lesley and I were mentally prepared to lose our family home. We had done our utmost to start the channel and the rest was up to God if He wanted it to continue, then it was now up to Him.
To my utter amazement, funds from the viewers have started to come in big time and in large amounts. I recall cheques for sums as large as £1,000 to £5,000 were coming in daily but as I said earlier, a certain folk in the office were sending the money back to the viewers and when I asked what on earth were they doing? One person replied, well your coming off the air so I am sending the money back to the viewers. Please bear with me as I think you see how relevant this matter is because I believe this very same person is one of the instigators of bringing a complaint about us to the Charity Commission.
To continue with what this person said to me about returning money back to the viewers, which was maybe a misunderstanding on her behalf of what really was happening in that the money was to help RevTV stay on the air, it’s what she said next that really showed me her true colours. .. she said 'I don’t believe you put any money into starting this channel' .... I soon discovered that this person had also convinced others in the office that her actions were appropriate. This clearly under minded my integrity and authority to run this channel so I asked those in the office to leave immediately. This they did and I went home and explained the situation to my wife and asked her to get involved by running the office from home. Lesley had no skills in using a computer so I quickly showed her what to do and that was when she jumped into action to help us deal with the office work. I recall asking my son Joel to help me although he was studying at Kingston College at the time. Joel had to drop his education and come and help me at the studio plus I asked my other son Luke to help as well even though at that time he had no media skills whatsoever.
Due to the sheer volume of work we now faced, having lost a big part of the team, we decided we could no longer foster so we notified Social Services that we would be stopping fostering. This was a big sacrifice for my wife for she was a dedicated foster carer, she adored the children and was so good with working with the parents with the aim to restore the children back to living with their birth parents, where it was deemed possible by Social Services. Lesley became such an accomplished carer for it was the requests of many of the social workers to try and first place the children with us rather than other foster carers and having received many accolades from the Foster management team for our dedication, we were well satisfied and really enjoyed the roll of foster carers. We had no desire to ever cease from this most rewarding work. Lesley and I over 13 years fostered around 130 children. Quite often we were over numbers as it was referred to where we had at one time eight foster children plus our own four children (total 12) . It was Lesley’s life and her love but now been forced to help me with the running of the channel, she didn’t have much of a choice as we now faced loosing our home due to the fact the money we borrowed to start the channel was secured by a charge on our home.
So why is this all relevant to the Charity Commission investigation?
Anyway, I believe a certain Sarah nee J. is one of the dissenting accusatory voices that has either directly or indirectly approached the Charity Commission, for it came to my attention what she had written to one of our trustees a year or two ago, making accusations yet again about me and my family saying that the Conders were making fortunes out of the channel. I also believe that she is in cahoots with Chris F. who again I believe to be another complainant to the Charity Commission. ... also a certain Sheila P. who has been like all these others I that I have named, falsely accusing us of gross misconduct, misappropriation of money, deception etc etc.. .. I can go into this more at length if needed but what I am trying to say is that some folk have taken it upon themselves to falsely accuse us of wrong doing not just in this one complaint to the Charity Commission but have been doing so for many years now and I believe they seem to have convinced the Charity Commission enough by making similar accusations or assumptions about our behavior. I welcome the Charity Commission investigation, for I trust they will discover there is no substance to these claims of wrongdoing. However, I am beginning to doubt that the Charity Commission can be impartial for me thinks they have ulterior motives, like they want to close us down for we teach that we were created rather than believing the lie that life began by and through evolution. Plus we speak out about abortion and that life in the womb is precious and should not be killed. Definitely not PC, as is our biblical stance on same sex relationships being an abomination to God. This is without mentioning our stance with that the Jewish People have every right to the land known as Israel.
Sadly these accusers have come from Christians as I would have expected it from the Gay community for they have accused us of Haters of homosexuals ... if you were interested you might be more enlightened in this matter as I have had so much hate mail from the Gays but the bottom line is that they too cant wait for RevTV to be closed down. ... but somehow i don’t think that they have not brought such allegations ,maybe just one , namely Robert P. or his partner (cant recall his name right now but they sign themselves off at the end of their emails to us as ‘Proud Sodomite’ and ‘Spawn of Satan’)
I have a huge number of emails from this couple, which I have kept in order to prove what they said about us even after having replied to them and reassured them that neither myself nor others in the RevTV team do NOT hate them. All our efforts to engage with them have been to no avail but we did try hard.
We even had Peter Tatchell as a guest on one of our live programmes recently. A most delightful gentle man and I am sure if you were to speak to Peter he would bear out that we were most respectful and very hospitable towards him ....
I should even have expected that maybe a Muslim may have brought a complaint against us but I don't think they would even be a part of this Charity Commission investigation as they are more decent than these so called Christians are who are behind this conspiracy to bring us to our knees.
I can only put it down to jealousy and them not sharing our biblical views on doctrinal issues.
Worth mentioning here which may come as a great surprise to many, is that we don't hate Muslims which has so often been expressed about us in social media and in the news papers for it were true how come we employ a practicing Muslim and have done for some years ???
I believe that these folk accusing us and complaining about us seem to be also annoyed that my family, the Conders, are making a fortune or at least are making a living. How terrible is that to make a living these days ??? We are not making a fortune as you will discover.
And as you will soon find out that they don't even earn a lot of money. And just for the record, my wife and I have received an average income over the last twelve years an average of £40k per annum. Hardly a fortune. And especially if you calculate that we are on call seven days a week with an average of 12 hours a day, (Mon-Fri) …. hardly even a fair income. A cleaner earns more than us when you apply hour for hour worked.
All the Conders have worked very long hours as in deed have Gordon and Lorna Pettie so my point is that I have had enough of people making false assumptions and writing blogs or writing to news papers etc with their theories and assumptions that we are making huge sums of money and now with the Charity Commission making announcements that basically make us out to be charlatans, I now have asked the trustees to give me back RTV. .. What I initially wanted to do was to give RevTV to the Revelation Foundation charity thinking this was the right and fair thing to do as the viewers are now supporting the channel to such a greater level than ever so we could take off the air many of the paid ministries which we would rather not have had on our channel but for financial reasons we had little other choice at the time. This was the time before we were receiving adequate support from the viewers. I always wanted RevTV to be a TV broadcaster that would be more culturally sensitive to the British mind set.
Having said; I don't want to live off of viewer’s money, as my pride wouldn't let me. I wanted to work for my living as an independent person therefore an agreement was eventually made for me to hand over RevTV to the Revelation Foundation, and for this to become a reality, the process of handing over the companies and shares of those companies linked to the running of RevTV including Revelation TV Europe SL , began years ago.
The process has been a nightmare, especially here in Spain where the red tape is even greater than the UK where everything has to be notarized with all parties having to be present at the time of notarizing documents. Because the trustees were living outside of Spain, as far away as Canada, it was so difficult to coordinate. This is why the process is still ongoing. Even yesterday Lesley had to go to a notary in the UK to get a step closer to make this hand over complete. It seems never ending!!! So frustrating.
However, enough of that for the moment, now to the point. I have written to the trustees to ask for the return of RevTV come back to the Conders. What was meant to be a goodwill gesture has become the biggest nightmare of my life. Its been so hurtful to hear false accusations and cruel murmurings against us. It has made me cry, angry and thinking that I should just give up and live a normal life, or by God's grace and favour, somehow just start all over again.
It's a sad day to be in a position of having built up an organisation. Which for the first time has been adequately supported by its audience our lovely Church Without Walls viewers. Unlike the BBC WHERE we the viewers are forced to pay the license fee (to the tune of 3.2 Billion a year) whether we like the BBC or not we are forced to pay.... such compulsory funding from folk like us goes to produce filth. We also have to put up with the constant use of four letter words, expletives and other immoral ungodly programmes, which we can't or won't watch yet we are forced to fund them through the license fee. Whereas, our viewers willingly offer financial SUPPORT every month to operate RevTV. A very different situation to that of the BBC and now the Charity Commission says we are spending too much on broadcasting just beggars belief.
In recent weeks, it was in the news that the BBC spent 10 million on redundancy payments to some staff members only to re engage them again. Outrageous! Also the BBC is self-regulating and somehow it has become acceptable to both the BBC and the modern day producers and management team to broadcast programmes which contain foul language whereas others have to comply with Ofcom regulations. It’s a joke.
Another item worth mentioning is for the first time we have made an appeal to raise funds to purchase premises where we would RevTV would have their own studio and offices. That looks like that will also be jeopardized. This also must have got right up the noses of our dissenters as each day we made it known to our viewers just how much was coming in to achieve the objective of building a studio. IS IT ANY WONDER THE TIMING OF THESE COMPLAINTS ARE MADE NOW ? ..
Anyway, that aside, I am a fighter for justice and fairness and I don’t mind starting again if I have to.
We have always sort to conduct ourselves with integrity. .. many times I have been given money which folk had said this is for you Howard and every time I have given it to the Revelation charity. One such gift as we call them was €20,000, I felt it that the Charity needed it more than myself so I gave the cheque to Gordon to put in the charity. My son Luke said I was mad as he said you could have bought yourself a car for that dad.
I also made a contribution, a gift to the Revelation Foundation charity of £350,00 in one lump sum. ...my accountants said I should consider only making a much smaller contribution to the charity and put the majority into a pension fund as I didn't have a pension fund. I was determined to not take that advice so decided to gift it all to the Revelation Foundation charity.
This has not been the last gift we as the Conders have made to the Revelation Foundation, so it begs the question. Why would we be doing this if we didn’t believe in the VISION ?????
Being accused by Sarah nee J. where she wrote: ‘the Conders raking it in' as some say we are doing.. Simple maths would show that we as the Conders have put in to the Revelation Foundation far more than has ever come back to us by either wages or benefits from the Revelation Foundation and or 21st Century Television Ltd.
Now with regards to our family working and getting paid by the Revelation Foundation: Hearing what I am heard last week has again really upset me that I have requested to the trustees that I don't want members of my family being paid by the Revelation Foundation and that as soon as possible Lesley and I will pay them.. Call it pride.
Also when there has been a need like television equipment to be replaced or bought which is essential to the running of the channel, and knowing that the Revelation Foundation has not sufficient funds to buy it... We, the Conders buy it . We did so last year when all our cameras needed to be purchased and not wanting to burden our viewers with this expense. . (Ironically, we do have the legal right to ask the viewers for financial support but I felt that many of our viewers would support such a request but knowing this would mean it could cause some great hardship I refused to go down this route of appealing to them to fund these cameras as the total was approaching half a million) so as 21st Century Television Ltd had the funds to make these purchases, therefore we bought them and please note that we the Conders did not ask nor expect to be reimbursed for this half a million pound or so expenditure but some months later, Gordon Pettie thought it was right for the Revelation Foundation to reimburse 21st Century and subsequently an arrangement to make monthly payments was arranged with the help of their accountants in what was a proper and legal method and above board.
All this has been greatly misunderstood by our enemies and sadly from what I am hearing so has the Charity Commission with thanks to Sarah nee J’s false reckonings where Sarah nee J. wrote to the trustees of the Revelation Foundation circa October 2012:
'Dear Peter and Trustees
I originally wrote this report to you in February, but was asked not to send it at the time (by her father) due to the then climate that existed at Revelation. There are a few things I do not agree with regarding the way that the channel operates, however today I just want to focus on finances.
Peter, (a trustee) I don’t know if you would remember me. I was the then 17 year old girl who used to run the live shows during the first year of the channel?
I have knowledge of the inner workings of the channel, as I didn’t just do the live shows, but also training others, scheduling and working in the office before it was moved to Surbiton. During this time I learnt about the finances, airtime sales etc so have put my own knowledge together with that available on the internet and come to the following conclusions. The conclusions below were written back in February before Howard’s email to ????? (the team )now look as being correct. I have not edited this much further so a lot of this is now possibly old news, so please bear with it.
The issue I wish to raise is that donors to the channel are being misled in the way that funds are raised and presented on the Building the Foundation programme. The programme leads the viewer to believe that the finances reported on the pie charts are a representation of the entire channels financial operation. This is not true and could be accused of being fraudulent. I am only bringing this to you because I believe that this is something that you as the legal overseers should be aware of.
It became obvious to me when I watched one of the first Building the Foundation programmes years ago. The income stated leaves out one of the largest income streams into the channel – airtime and advertising sales. Having worked in the office during the set up of the channel I know about the 21st Century television account and believe that the money from this huge source of income is going straight into this account. From what I can gather from the charities commission website 21st Century Television makes donations to the Revelation Foundation. The donation total for 2009 was £350,000 I believe. I have a problem with this as by my maths this is nowhere near the total that is received in airtime and advertising. Using very conservative figures I come to the below sums.
Airtime at £350 per 30 min slot x 4 paying ministries = £1400 per day x 365 = £511,000 per year
Advertising at £15 per spot x 12 = £180 per day x 365 = £65,700
As you can see from this very conservative estimate there is around £200,000, which is going into this account. Howard and Gordon have always said “come and look at our books” I’m sure they would be happy for someone who hasn’t a clue how a station is run to come and look, but I believe this over confidence is a bluff.
I do not know what is happening to the money that goes into 21st Century, but as Trustees I hope you do. The reason I am bringing this up is the dishonesty and deception. When I tell people I used to work for the station they often comment about the transparency of the finances and how wonderful it is to see exactly where the money goes. The problem is they are not seeing where all the money goes and if people found out what sort of a response should we expect from the poor old ladies at home who give “the widow’s mite” in good faith that the money is needed and that there is transparency. How would Jesus respond?
My own suspicion is that 21st Century tops up the Revelation Foundation at the amount it needs. If I am correct then how wrong is it to convince people of a need, which isn’t real? This is fraud and those who are aware of this deception need to repent. I am aware that for some of you however, that this would be unknown.
There needs to be either a clear distinction for viewers between 21st Century Television and the Revelation Foundation or preferably all money to flow through the Revelation Foundation as this would give the clarity and transparency that the viewers expect. Also I cannot see the charities commission looking favourably on the current reporting of finances.
Considering that in the initial mission statement of the channel was a very clear statement of not asking for funds on air – things have not only gone very far from the vision, but also veered into an area of possible criminality.
Please see my other document BTF Report, which is a transcript of the last Building the Foundation programme (February 2012).
I would like to make it clear that the last thing I want is for this information to go into the public domain. I have sat on this for years and feel I should have confronted earlier, but feel that with the current Trustees there is an opportunity for things to be put right.
I pray you will have the strength and courage to do what is needed.
Howard’s email said that he didn’t feel comfortable taking from “the widows mite”, which sounds very sacrificial when said in that way, however by taking the entirety of the stations earned (as opposed to donated) money they have created a deficit which the “widows mite” then has to fill. Personally I cannot see this as a good argument and whilst I don’t wish to be cynical, I believe this is done in this way so that the viewers cannot see how much money is being taken by Howard and Lesley.
I realise that is a heavy accusation, however I do accounts for a charity myself and can’t see this any other way. I have no problem with Howard and Lesley taking even millions every year as that is their choice. However it is not being fair or honest with the viewers and those who do give the “widows mite”.
I would never go public with this information, as I spent 6 months as a volunteer and a further 6 months on a wage that covered my train fare and not much more. So for me to see something that I invested so much of myself into be brought down by either the charity commission or a police investigation would be a personal loss. However after Howard’s email I’d be very surprised if no one else did as it’s not difficult to connect the dots.
You are welcome to contact me with any questions or queries sarahacott@ ?????'
END OF QUOTE FROM Sarah nee J.
Wow…. What an audacious, ignorant and even libelous set of accusations Sara nee J. has made. I am totally shocked at her false assumptions.
I am sure when all is revealed that it will prove that Sarah is totally out of order.
For as I said earlier, my wife and I have received an average income over the last twelve years an average of £40k per annum each. Which is no where near the amounts Sarah nee J. has assumed we have made. And this past year both Lesley and myself donated 25k each to the Revelation Foundation alone without mentioning other charities we have given to this past year.
Meanwhile, while these scurrilous accusations continue to be made, my faith is in God to provide and He has shown me all through my walk of faith that he has been faithful to His promises and that's where I want to return to so we can get on with the job of ministering to our lovely Church Without Walls congregation. All this is just a big distraction.
God have mercy on you all who have brought these false charges for you know only too well what you do.
I haven't taken legal advice or sought any approval for what I am writing to you today, therefore I guess I am at risk of being misunderstood or being misquoted but I want you to know what is on my heart and if you don't or can't read that then so be it.
Ironically, most of our viewers have been amazing since the Charity Commission’s press release and the viewers have rallied to the challenges we now have. Many have increased their financial support and some have for the first time given to the Revelation Foundation charity. One such gift was a staggering fifteen thousand pounds. PTL.
I even heard when i was in the office where one person called in to offer us encouragement saying he was not a Christian but wanted Revelation TV to continue and wished us well and to continue doing a good job.
So what I believe was meant to harm us has only turned out to be for our good. We are blessed to have very discerning viewers.
Please forgive my lack of grammar as I'm not well educated and I'm not going to spend the time checking the spelling etc as I have a lot to do so I apologise for any mistakes.
I apologise for not pulling any punches with you for as you will sense, I am very upset. Try and put yourself in my position or the position you have put the trustees in and especially Gordon and Lorna Pettie.
There is much more to share and I am happy to be very open about these matters as I feel it’s not me that they are personally attacking or accusing but the work or ministry we have in reaching people who need to hear the full gospel of Jesus Christ.
May God be my judge and deal ever so severely with me if there is anything I have done wrong, for I would not want any soul to stumble and not enter the Kingdom of God on account of me. I would rather throw myself in the sea.
I don’t like any of this, but Lord, let your will be done in Jesus name. Amen !
Yours most sincerely,
Howard"
What stands out to me about Howard Conder's rather rambling self congratulatory Facebook post above is that he has betrayed the gospel of Jesus Christ for impure motives (2 Corinthians 2:17; 1Thessalonians 2:3). Conder writes that he wishes to "....take off the air many of the paid ministries which we would rather not have had on our channel but for financial reasons we had little other choice at the time." This tells me that he has a conflict between building up his TV station and proclaiming the "full Gospel of Jesus Christ" - the true gospel that is (1 Corinthians 9:16)! It is quite clear which is more important to him and I believe this is a major reason why he is experiencing problems. RTV continue air out and out deceivers like Jesse Duplantis, Sid Roth, Joyce Meyer and Seventh Day Adventists to name but a few - and for no other reason than money!!!
No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money. (Matthew 6:24; Luke 16:13)
Howard Conder: "..... I would not want any soul to stumble and not enter the Kingdom of God on account of me. I would rather throw myself in the sea." Is Howard Conder causing any "little ones" who believe in Jesus Christ to stumble by airing false teachers and deceivers (Matthew 18:6)?
"One of these little ones. Whether child or adult, a pure, simple soul, which has a certain faith it be not strong enough to resist all attack." http://biblehub.com/matthew/18-6.htm
Please read below further communications between Sarah Acott, Gordon Pettie and Alan Tun:
From: Alan Tun <alan@revelationtv.com>
To: 'Sarah Acott' xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2015, 17:16
Subject: RE: A Serious Matter
"Hi Sarah,
I am coming to London for the next trustee meeting on Wednesday 20th May. I can meet you in London on Thursday 21st in the morning if you´re free. I know you said you are normally at work during the week, but rather than not tell you I was coming to London, I thought I should at least give you the information. We would reimburse your train ticket if you were to come in as we wouldn´t want you to be out of pocket.
Every blessing,
Alan Tun
RevelationTV"
On 5 May 2015, at 16:08, Sarah Acott xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
"Hi Alan
Thank you for your email. Unfortunately, I won't be able to meet on a Thursday as it would mean closing my business for the day and I can't afford to lose a days trading at the moment as I'm in the process of expanding.
I'm quite disappointed that I've had no response from either Howard or the Trustees. I don't know if Howard is still trying to discredit me in order to exonerate himself, but he can't lie his way out of this one. It's gone too far and I can, if need be, get people to testify that I was at the station after the office staff were fired. I still even have contact with some people who I met at the station after the this time.
The deadline of 2 weeks lapsed over a week ago. I gave a grace period because Howard was abroad, but still I have heard nothing from either Howard of the Trustees. Whilst I appreciate our conversation Alan, this needs to come from Howard and the Trustees directly.
I will give until Friday for a proper response to my email dated 13th April. I took the time away from my hectic schedule of 90 hour working weeks to write it and I expect Howard to do the same under the circumstances. He had the time to write the offending Facebook post and many others like it, so I know he has the time to put this right personally.
As an alternative, I believe I am entitled to a right of reply and am happy to talk to Howard live on TV via phone and if he truly believes he is in the right then he will be happy to debate me publicly.
If this doesn't happen I will take this public and make sure that everyone knows what Howard has been doing to cover his tracks. I'm sorry Alan, but this is very serious and I do need Howard and the Trustees to personally acknowledge this.
I have contacted the charity commission already as I felt it was the right thing to do, but am holding off going public until Friday to give Howard and the trustees one last chance.
Kind regards
Sarah"
From: Gordon Pettie <gordon@revelationtv.com>
To: Sarah Acott xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: trustees@revelationtv.com
Sent: Thursday, 7 May 2015, 11:21
Subject: Re: A Serious Matter
"Dear Sarah
Thank you for your email of the 5th May. I am writing to you in my capacity as Chairmen of the Revelation Foundation. I confirm receipt of your email of the 13th April.
I note that you say you have been in touch with the Charity Commission since your email of the 13th April. Presumably the Charity Commission are now aware of the points you wrote to us as a Charity about. In view of this fact I consider that we are best waiting to see how they wish to proceed.
However there are a number of general points that I am willing to make at this time concerning your email of the 13th April.
Your letter of the 13th April is addressed to Howard, with the trustees copied in to it. As you are aware Howard is not a trustee of the Revelation Foundation and has not been for many years.
As a Trust we were not involved in the day to day running of the TV station during the period when you were involved. Therefore we have no comment to make on the points you raise concerning your work at that time.
The Facebook page that you refer to in your email/letter is a personal one that Howard is responsible for and as a Charity we have no involvement with it. When we were made aware of the posting that you refer to, we advised Howard to take it down, and my understanding is that it was removed. I am not aware that any copies of that posting are still on the web.
You are correct in saying that you stated in writing when you sent your original report to Peter Darg that it was your intention that it was for ‘trustees eyes only’. However in view of the serious allegations that you made in it, we felt it necessary to investigate the matter further and to do that we needed to make the report available to Howard to read so that he could answer points in it concerning himself and the Conder family. The Charity Commission already have copies of the minutes of Trustees meetings so they are aware of that investigation.
We take your concerns seriously but in view of the involvement by you of the Charity Commission, i really believe that we have to wait their decision on how to proceed with your complaint.
With kind regards
Gordon Pettie
Chairman
Revelation Foundation"
From: Sarah Acott xxxxxxxxxx
Date: 08/05/2015 10:25 (GMT+00:00)
To: Gordon Pettie <gordon@revelationtv.com>, Howard <howard@revelationtv.com>, Alan Tun <alan@revelationtv.com>, lesley@revelationtv.com
Cc: trustees@revelationtv.com
Subject: Re: A Serious Matter
"Dear Gordon
Thank you for your email, but unfortunately it seems you are too concerned with distancing yourself from this situation that you cannot even show genuine sympathy or realise the implications of my taking this situation public.
Gordon, to be frank, you are the person whom Howard has credited for the set up of the charity and also therefore, the fundraising tactics in question. In many respects, I actually hold you more accountable for the lack of transparency, as Howard would have to some extent just been going with your guidance.
I would appreciate a copy of the minutes relating to my report from 2012 that you say the charity commission have. I feel you at least owe me that.
I can see that you are not willing to comment, so on that basis, perhaps we will have to wait on the charity commission. However, if no one changes my mind the general public can also decide. I have everything prepared and ready to send and I feel to warn you that Howard's editing of a report for propaganda is likely to trend very quickly.
Gordon, I'd much rather work with the charity than pull it down. It's not beyond redemption, but right now I don't think there's any reason to salvage it as the rot is coming from the top (and that's not just Howard).
I'm gutted that only Alan, who is no longer a trustee, was willing to actually try to deal with this situation. I wanted an opportunity to salvage the channel, but without repentance, this is not possible and under these circumstances, God can't help you either.
Howard and you the trustees have until midday to give me a reason why Revelation it worth saving and a willingness to deal with the rot.
Kind regards
Sarah"
From: Gordon Pettie <gordon@revelationtv.com>
To: Sarah Acott xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "trustees@revelationtv.com" <trustees@revelationtv.com>
Sent: Friday, 8 May 2015, 11:23
Subject: Re: A Serious Matter
Dear Sarah
I cannot operate with a gun to my head. You have no idea what is going on in our lives and to say you give me and the trustees less than two hours to reply to your email is not a situation I can work within.
Alan has been trying for to arrange to meet you on our behalf. My understanding is he is still trying to make that happen. He has a free hand on our behalf to do that.
You suggest that I am trying to distant myself from your accusations and not showing repentance. Quite frankly I take exception to some of your comments.
'Rot at the top' - Presumably you are referring to me.
'God cannot help you' - I am willing to trust my Lord.
I leave you to decide what you do. That is not my decision.
Christian greetings
Gordon Pettie
Revelation Foundation"
From: Sarah Acott xxxxxxxxxx
To: Gordon Pettie <gordon@revelationtv.com>; Howard <howard@revelationtv.com>; Alan Tun <alan@revelationtv.com>; "lesley@revelationtv.com" <lesley@revelationtv.com>
Cc: "trustees@revelationtv.com" <trustees@revelationtv.com>
Sent: Friday, 8 May 2015, 11:52
Subject: Re: A Serious Matter
"Dear Gordon
You have had weeks to respond and haven't. As Trustees you have the ability and duty to take disciplinary action with Howard regarding his lies and editing of my report. You haven't even given me an apology for the situation, with which you are involved by association even if you didn't personally write the article.
The gun to your head, is the one you put there and I don't want to pull the trigger, but will if needed. I've asked you for a reason not to pull the trigger and instead you give me the opposite. A little humility and repentance goes a long way.
I have just had a conversation with Alan Tun. He has informed me that Howard refuses to read my emails. The reason he won't is because he knows he has lied and reading the truth will make it real.
Howard has always been a bit unpredictable, but to do what he has done and be allowed not to face the truth is madness. That is what you trustees are here to do. You are supposed to hold people accountable and you have all failed.
Howard can't bury his head in the sand forever and you are not protecting him or Revelation by allowing him to continue like this. If Howard cannot face me, how will he face the genera public when he is exposed?
Kind Regards
Sarah"
UPDATE
Sarah Acott has now published these things in her own words: https://godvschristianity.wordpress.com/2015/05/14/why-i-think-revelation-tv-is-being-investigated-by-the-charity-commission/
Gordon Pettie And The Barlow Clowes Fraud: http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/more-revelations-about-revelation-tv.html
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