THE HEXAGRAM DECEPTION: The Star of Saturn Revealed

YOU MAY BE A RAPTURE REDNECK.... BY DAVE MACPHERSON

     (1) If you think that Antichrist is the sister of somebody's mother.

     (2) If "posttrib" to you is the time after the Chicago Tribune arrives.

     (3) If you guess that LaHaye is something that's made while LaSun is shining.

     (4) If you're sure that Plymouth Brethren would excommunicate anyone driving a Ford or Chevy.

     (5) If you don't believe that Thomas Ice is a substance that can slow down and freeze a thinking brain.

     (6) If you think someone is stuttering if he says "666."

     (7) If "partial rapture" is what you say you feel when your denture fits.

     (8) If you think Grant Jeffrey doesn't go way back in time.

     (9) If you assume that the Early Fathers were folks who were never late to meetings.

     (10) If you reckon that the apocalypse are part of the dragon's mouth.

     (11) If you imagine that Scofield's notes are never flat.

     (12) If you think that R-A-P-T-U-R-E is the way to spell "relief."

     (13) If you're sure that the King James Translation was when King James was raptured away.

     (14) If you don't believe that Hal Lindsey wanted a rapture view that he could bank on.

     (15) If you don't know that a "fig"ment of someone's imagination can cause "date"-setting.

     (16) If you can't admit that Dallas The-Illogical Seminary was long famous for Walvoord-to-Walvoord carpeting.

     (17) If you conclude that "The Rapture Plot" is where the pretrib rapture will be buried.

     (18) If you think that an amill is someone who says "Ah!" whenever mill discussion is proposed.

     (19) If you don't know that Margaret Macdonald's partial rapturism had her saying: "SOME of the saints know they'll be in heaven when the rapture happens because they aren't all here!"

     (20) But even a rapture redneck knows that just because some don't want to be left doesn't mean they're right!

     Incidentally, Cyrus Redneck has just come up with the very best argument for pretribulationism. He says that the letters in "rapture" can be found in "pretribulationism" but not in "midtribulationism," "posttribulationism," "prewrathism," or "partial rapturism"!

WAS CHUCK SMITH ECUMENICAL? JACOB PRASCH

Was Chuck Smith Ecumenical? James Jacob Prasch -Live Via Skype

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gZlylKQHjA

The above video is yet another example of Jacob Prasch's extraordinary duplicity.

Prasch continues to muddy the waters by endorsing his former friend, founder of Calvary Chapel, Chuck Smith. 

Prasch: "Never once did he (Chuck Smith) endorse the ecumenical movement or the Roman Catholic Church."

This statement is blatantly false!!!

Chuck Smith did in fact make the unequivocal assertion that Roman Catholics are Christians! In his book, Answers For Today (1993), he made the following ecumenical statement:

"We should realize that we're all part of the Body of Christ and that there aren't any real divisions in the Body. We're all one. What a glorious day when we discover that God loves the Baptists! -- And the Presbyterians, and the Methodists, and the Catholics. We're all His and we all belong to Him. We see the whole Body of Christ, and we begin to strive together rather than striving against one another" (p157). (Emphasis mine).

Pastors Perspective with Chuck Smith and Don Stewart:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc9bNm62SCU

Above.. Once again Chuck Smith states unequivocally that Roman Catholics are Christians: "I had a cousin who was a mother superior in the Catholic Church and she was just a wonderful Christian. I loved her and we had great conversations together and I didn't try to convert her from Catholicism, nor did she try to convert me into becoming a Catholic.. it is just we both recognise that we had the same Lord and the same faith and so forth.." He goes on to say that the differences between Christians and Catholics are not that great - his conclusion: "Catholics are basically Christians too."

Prasch's prevarications about Chuck Smith's inclusivism: "Because so many of the people in Calvary Chapel, who were coming to Calvary Chapel and who were getting saved were from Roman Catholic backgrounds. Chuck took a pastoral approach evangelistically, not wanting to alienate Catholics, so he was reserved about his criticism of Roman Catholic doctrine, theology, beliefs, practices and so forth. He was not one to speak against it, he thought, rightly or wrongly, that it would be counterproductive to seeing Roman Catholics get saved given the fact that so many people in Calvary Chapels were from Roman Catholic backgrounds." 

Chuck Smith's inclusive approach was both unscriptural and ecumenical! Roman Catholicism is the very antithesis of true Christianity and only a deceiver would make such statements. In my experience, those who come out of Roman Catholicism are all the more eager to avoid it! They do not seek to be entangled by it again! (2 Peter 2:20).

ALL Calvary Chapel pastors deferred to the powerful personality of Chuck Smith rather than the scriptures, never mind about the fact that he falsely speculated that the rapture would occur before the end of 1981 at least three times! {1} The pre-trib rapture is of course a key doctrine of Calvary Chapel.

Apart from Smith's embarrassing rapture predictions, he appeared on TBN on many occasions. Chuck Smith and others like him, such as Greg Laurie and Chuck Missler, were/are tainted by association with this apostate organisation. (2 John 9-11). In fact TBN continues to promote Chuck Smith. {2} Paul Crouch referred to Smith as a "dear friend" after his death. {3} Smith was also a "good friend" of Rick Warren!!! The very thought of forming friendships with deceivers like Paul Crouch and Rick Warren should be abhorrent to any true believer!

.. have nothing to do with the deeds of darkness or those who promote false doctrines. What fellowship does light have with darkness? (Ephesians :5:11; 2 Corinthians 6:14). If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, (2 John 1:10). What precisely were Chuck Smith's motives in cultivating friendships with such wicked men apart from leading many believers astray?

Not only was Chuck Smith both ecumenical and a false prophet, he continued to sanction the ministry of his close associate Don Stewart after his adultery. Don Stewart left his wife and two teenage daughters for no good reason and married another woman in 2011. (Matthew 19:19). {4} Smith and Stewart had a long association going back to the early days of Calvary Chapel at Costa Mesa, and they jointly hosted Pastors Perspective for a number of years. Don Stewart continues a high profile ministry in association with Calvary Chapel despite being an adulterer! He is another false teacher who relentlessly promotes the pre-trib rapture deception.

Clearly Chuck Smith had no reservations whatsoever about ditching the scriptures whenever it was convenient!

Jacob Prasch recently re-published the following ill-conceived article by Jackie Alnor endorsing Freemason Billy Graham. {5} Moriel Ministries have now removed their link to this article:

"So in spite of our 20-20 hindsight in believing Billy Graham made the wrong call for the purity of the Church of Jesus Christ, he still deserves the honor of going down in history as the greatest evangelist of all time. That cannot be taken from him. Rest in eternal peace, Billy!!" https://www.moriel.org/articles-and-news/7029-the-legacy-of-billy-graham.html

Prasch's close association with "ecumenical prophet" David Noakes and his accomplice, false prophet, Clifford Hill (Moggerhanger Park), is also highly questionable. David Noakes will be  a speaker at the Moriel Scottish Conference in Aberfoyle (Friday - Sunday 2nd-4th November 2018). {6}

Jacob Prasch's infamous intra-seal rapture theory has thoroughly baffled many believers. Although he tries to pass off intra-seal as a credible variation on the pre-wrath position, do not be fooled! I have not heard one pre-wrath teacher support intra-seal, although Prasch likes to brag that they have things in common! The silence from the pre-wrath camp is deafening! Intra-seal is an unoriginal piece of eisegesis that supports the unscriptural view of the Holy Spirit as taught by John Nelson Darby and the pre-trib camp. Prasch's assertion that the Holy Spirit is the "restrainer" of 2 Thessalonians 2:6-7 is purely speculative. Furthermore, Prasch's assertion that the Holy Spirit is absent during the 70th week of Daniel and his further assertion there is no conviction of sin during this seven year period is unconscionable! The list of errors contained within intra-seal is nothing less than spectacular as demonstrated in my publication and my previous posts on the subject. {7} Prasch has much in common with Darby and his "chaotic" doctrine. BW Newton speculated that Darby may have been sent to Oxford to watch the evangelical movement on behalf of popery. He added that he had not read a line of Darby's writings that a papist might not use. {8} We can easily re-assign Professor Hertzog's observations regarding Darby to Jacob Prasch: "..he (Darby) displayed a haughty imperious, peremptory and ungovernable spirit in public.. Especially he (Darby) the rashness of his assertions, often contradictory; by the vagueness of his expressions; and by his wretched stratagem of jumping off from one subject to another." {8} This perfectly sums up Prasch and intra-seal! Beware of this man!

Was Chuck Smith Ecumenical? Most definitely YES!

A more relevant question: Was Chuck Smith a Jesuit infiltrator and why does Jacob Prasch tell such blatant lies?  

But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” (Revelation 21:8)

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. (1 John 4:1-6).

Prasch's endorsement of Chuck Smith is an insult to our intelligence. (Jeremiah 9:5).

Further Reading:

The Latest "Prophetic Word" to Britain by David Noakes: Can A True Prophet Of God be Ecumenical?

https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2016/10/the-latest-prophetic-word-for-britain.html

https://youtu.be/mu8GSDwwBvs

{1} http://calvarychapel.pbworks.com/w/page/. /1981
{2} https://www.tbn.org/people/chuck-smith
{3} https://www.tbn.org/press-releases/dr-paul-crouchs-statement-passing-pastor-chuck-smith
{4} http://scatteredsheepreport.blogspot.com/2012/01/january-20-2012-show-my-perspective-on.html
{5} http://christiansentinel.com/2018/02/22/legacy-billy-graham/ 
{6} https://www.moriel.org/itinerary/7063-moriel-scottish-conference,-gartmore-house-fri-sun-2-4-nov-2018.html
{7} https://www.amazon.co.uk/INTRA-SEAL-RAPTURE-DECEPTION-EXPOSED-devised-ebook/dp/B06X6N2JJT/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1535449633&sr=8-1&keywords=intra-seal+rapture
{8} Death of the Church Victorious, Ovid Need. Sovereign Grace Publishers,2002. p183-184.

WALVOORD'S POSTTRIB VARIETIES - PLUS ! BY DAVE MACPHERSON

          (The late Dr. John Walvoord was long known as a leading pretrib rapture scholar as well as the president of Dallas Theological Seminary. Since he is still frequently quoted, readers may be interested in this short piece that I put together some 17 years ago:)

          Since 1976 John Walvoord, in The Blessed Hope and the Tribulation and The Rapture Question: Revised (hereafter BH and RQR) and on the Internet, has seen four "distinct" (BH, p. 21) and "contradictory" (RQR, p. 144) schools of thought within the posttrib view.

          (Later I'll show that within Walvoord's own pretrib view the crucial timing of the rapture has had incredible variety along with fluctuating Scriptural bases!)

          Walvoord focuses on what he says are "major tenets" of the various posttrib views. He asserts that posttribs are either "classic" or "semiclassic" or "futurist" or "dispensational." But he himself undermines his labels, showing that his distinctions are not all that different!

          Walvoord states that major beliefs of "classic" posttribs include "any day" imminency, a nonliteral tribulation, and a literal millennium (BH, pp. 22, 29; RQR, p. 136). Amazingly, he finds the same three views in the "semiclassic" category!

          Re the semiclassic group, he also notes some who see a future tribulation (BH, p. 36; RQR, p. 139). In fact, he finds the same futurism in three of the four groups - even though only one is labeled "futurist"!

          Walvoord comments that his third ("futurist") group is noted for belief in a literal future tribulation (BH, p. 18; RQR, p. 142) and a literal millennium (BH, p. 57; RQR, p. 142), adding that it doesn't embrace "any day" imminency (BH, p. 19; RQR, p. 132).

          But his fourth ("dispensational") group has the same non-imminency! Moreover, tribulational futurism is found in all groups except the first one, and he admits that a literal millennium is in all four groups!

          Walvoord's muddying up of posttrib waters covers up an important fact: that for 1800 years Christians, though disagreeing on tribulational and millennial matters, never even dreamed of separating the rapture from the final advent and giving the rapture a "favored coming status"!

          The real varieties are found in pretrib history and not only in peripheral items but also in its timing of the rapture (its lifeblood)!

          In 1829 a British group known as the Irvingites, inspired by Lev. 23's order of feasts, stretched the rapture forward and created a tiny, indeterminate gap between "stages" - in a posttrib setting.

          During the early 1830's other Britishers began seeing a rapture before the 1260 tribulation days of Rev. 12; some based this rapture on Rev. 11's "witnesses" while others based it on Rev. 12's "man child."

          Many have credited John Darby, Plymouth Brethren leader, with the pretrib view. His first clear pretrib basis, in 1839, was the same "man child."

          But Edward Irving (initially inspired by pretrib originator Margaret Macdonald's short handwritten account of her early 1830 "discovery") had begun using the same symbol for the same purpose eight years earlier in The Morning Watch, a journal Darby well knew and often cited!

          By the 1870's pretribs had finally stretched their rudimental tribulational gap into a seven-year-long gap featuring a variety of bases: Rev. 3's "Philadelphia," Rev. 4's "John," or the blank space between Rev. 3 and Rev. 4!!

          The entire tell-all documentation on pretrib's origin and early development is in my recent book The Rapture Plot (300 pgs., 400+ footnotes, 6 appendices, bibliog., index), obtainable at online bookstores including Armageddon Books.

          The Rapture Plot  also reveals, for the first time, how one 19th century British group cleverly stole the pretrib rapture idea away from another group by means of document changes, plagiarism, etc. - unparalleled revisionism covered up for more than a century!

TRINITY LIFE CHURCH LEICESTER: FESTERING ECUMENISM AND APOSTASY!

The Second Beast: Revelation 13:11-18

11Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. 12It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. 13It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, 14and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. 16Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. 18This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.

If you attend a mainstream church, it is highly unlikely that they will give any in depth teaching from the book of Revelation. The above passage refers to the "second beast", i.e. the harbinger of the first beast, the Antichrist. (Revelation 13:1-11). It is probable that the image of the beast is the “abomination that causes desolation” in the rebuilt third Jerusalem temple. (Daniel 9:27; Matthew 24:15). Historically many theologians recognise that the second beast will be a "religious" figure due to his identification as the false prophet. (Revelation 16:13; 19:20; 20:10). Many antichrists have already come, but the scriptures are specific that there will be a final figure, the Man of Sin. Paul gives this “man of sin” various names, or descriptors, which could only be applicable to an individual human being. (1 John 2:18). The Roman Catholic Church deceptively teach that both Jesus Christ and the sacraments are necessary for salvation. (2 Corinthians 11:4). This is a denial of the gospel that proclaims Jesus Christ alone as the saviour of the world. (Proverbs 30:6; Deuteronomy 4:2; Revelation 22:18). Indeed the RCC do have a form of godliness, but they deny the power of the true gospel. (2 Timothy 3:5). It is critical to recognise that the ecumenical movement being promoted by the RCC is a deceptive shift from the true gospel of Jesus Christ to the false gospel of the coming Antichrist, the coming one world religion and the New World Order. The word "antichrist", from anti and christos, is either one who puts himself in the place of, or is the enemy (opponent) of the Messiah. In fact both these definitions apply to the Antichrist.

Trinity Life Church Leicester

TLC: "We love God, love people and are passionate about Jesus, discipleship, compassion, mission and you." {1} TLC claims to be "all about Jesus", but are they really? They further claim that "the Bible is the Word of God." {2}  

The above statements show TLC to be utter hypocrites. Anyone making such serious professions of faith should shun ALL connection with the ecumenical movement, and yet there are a number of instances where TLC have knowingly partnered with this wicked movement. (2 Corinthians 6:14).

“Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you?" (Luke 6:46).

“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.." (John 14:15).

A Tree and Its Fruit
15“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. 18A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.

I Never Knew You
21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’.’ (Matthew 7:15-23).

Just as many Jewish leaders were not prepared for Jesus' first coming and put obstacles in the way of true faith, many within organised Christendom will not be prepared for His second coming. (Luke 18:8).

TLC is spreading like a cancer throughout Leicestershire via its unbiblical of expansion of satellite churches. (2 Timothy 2:17). They presently have seven campuses; the latest addition, launching in September, will be TLC Birstall. {3} There is no example of a multisite church in the New Testament. The clear scriptural model is that of Paul and Barnabus, whose practice was to plant new churches, to appoint leaders with prayer and fasting, and to release them into the care of the Lord: And when they had appointed elders for them in every church, with prayer and fasting they committed them to the Lord in whom they had believed. (Acts 14:23 cf. 2 Timothy 2:2; Titus 1:5).

Open Hands Trust

The latest example of TLC's descent into ungodliness can be found at their infamous 6 Degrees Coffee House which is the enterprise of the Open Hands Trust. I have written about this subject previously. {4} The Open Hands Trust was established in 2006 by Trinity Life Church. 

Open Hands: "..with a heart to help those most vulnerable and disadvantaged in society, welcoming any in need through the doors of our Compassion Centre and inspiring hope for the future.

Our strap line ‘Compassion in Action’ expresses our belief in being active at all times with compassion, offering hope in every situation through providing food, clothing, furniture, skills training, mentoring, advice and a listening ear. The charity runs the majority of its services out of its Compassion Centre in Highfields (Leicester), which receives over 200 visits each week, but also runs an OFSTED approved preschool in two areas of the city and a thriving and profitable subsidiary company, ‘6 Degrees Coffee House’, in order to support the charity’s good work." {5}

We should bear in mind that the Antichrist will be a great philanthropist. (John 12:4-5). There is of course only one hope for the future. (Ephesians 4:4). Open Hands do not offer the gospel alongside their various charitable works. In fact by their own actions, Open Hands effectively bound the gospel in 2013, due to the contract they entered into with their sponsors, the Big Lottery Fund. (2 Timothy 2:9; 1 Corinthians 9:16). The Big Lottery Fund regulations state: "Crucially, the activities undertaken with lottery money cannot promote religion or belief." {6} I have addressed the ethical implications of TLC's lottery funding in a previous post. {7}

Among the active directors of the Open Hands Trust are David and Susan Hind, the senior leaders of TLC, Brian Niblock, former pastor and now an elder at TLC, and Colin Jewitt, who is a Director of both TLC and Open Hands. {8}

Open Hands partners: Trinity Life Church Leicester, Knighton Free Church, St Wilfrid's Church Kibworth (CofE), New Life Church Fleckney, Leicester Jesus Centre (formerly Jesus Army), KingsGate Community Church Leicester, Living Rock (Midlands), St Christopher's Church Leicester (CofE), Abundant Pentecostal Church Leicester, Avenue Road Community Church Glen Parva and The Oak Centre Braunstone.

I do not know where all the above churches stand regarding their relationship with Jesus Christ and I cannot comment on all of them. However I can speak about what I do know.

• The Church of England is openly and rabidly ecumenical. TLC's ecumenical links clearly continue to fester!
• I attended Knighton Free Church (KFC) for a very brief period of time a few years ago as a last ditch attempt to find true biblical fellowship in an organised church. However, it quickly became apparent that KFC had links with the CofE.. as demonstrated by their occasional guest speakers from St Mary's Church Knighton participation in their services. During my brief time at KFC, their minister, Andrew Upton, introduced the aberrant teachings of Bill Hybels, the now disgraced megachurch pastor, {9} and one of the ignominious signatories of the interfaith response to "A Common Word Between Us and You" (2007). I sent Andrew Upton ten pages of information about this Islamic/Christian document as he appeared to know nothing at all about it! {10} To seal KFC's fate as far as my involvement was concerned, the leader of the home group I attended denied the existence of eternal punishment. I did mention to him that if you deny eternal punishment, then you must also deny eternal salvation, since the same word, αἰώνιος, applies to both situations. (Matthew 25:46). During a very distressing meeting with Andrew Upton and his assistant, they decided that I had the problem! After they recommended the teachings of Calvinist heretic John Piper, it soon became clear to me that it would be sheer madness to remain! (Ephesians 5:11; 2 John 1:9-11). I now strongly suspect that KFC is a Calvinist church.
• Leicester Jesus Centre is the abusive cult formerly known as Jesus Army which has been in the media of late.
• The Oak Centre is the Braunstone branch of TLC.

TLC's idolatry of the Royal Family is completely out of sync with the scriptures! 6 Degrees Coffee House recently celebrated the Royal Wedding. I have nothing personal against Meghan Markle or the Royal Family, but they do not follow biblical Christianity. In God's eyes we are all sinners and I do hope and pray that they will repent and be saved. (Romans 3:23-24). Meghan Markle divorced her first husband, Trevor Engelson, in 2013, on the grounds of irretrievable breakdown. TLC's celebration of this wedding is a significant departure from the biblical principles they have historically defended. In biblical terms, remarriage is absolutely prohibited except by reason of sexual immorality. (Matthew 5:32; 19:9 1 Corinthians 7:9-10 cf. Malachi 2:16). John the Baptist reproved Herod Antipas for his illicit (adulterous) marriage to his brothers wife. (Mark 6:18; Leviticus 18:16, 20:21). For TLC to support such an event gives their approval to divorce and remarriage and it is a slap in the face to Jesus Christ. (James 4:4). Apart from that, the Royal Family are undeniably entrenched in the occult, their "religion" being more akin to Freemasonry than biblical Christianity. Queen Elizabeth II is the Grand Patroness of Freemasonry. Their obvious connection with the Druids and with various secret societies speaks for itself. {11}

I wrote previously that Open Hands' 6 Degrees Coffee House is completely saturated in the number of the beast, 666. (Revelation 13:18). In fact TLC seem unable to shake off this wicked number to this very day. We might have sighed a sigh of relief that TLC have at last changed the three sixes on the front of their building, but nevertheless they cannot resist putting the third six somewhere or other, or multiples thereof in various forms. In fact the very logo itself comprises of six outer sixes and the yin yang coffee beans! This wicked logo is an abomination and the antithesis of Jesus Christ and the scriptures.

It is a well known fact that Satanists use backwards numbers and letters!

How many multiples of 666 are there above?

The fallacy of 6 degrees of separation may be the academic equivalent of an urban myth according to scientists.

Harry..  masonic hidden hand signal - devil's horns.

I am reliably informed that if you visit 6 Degrees Coffee House (I do not recommend it), you would not realise that it has anything to do with Christianity at all. When TLC have finished celebrating ecumenism, false prophets and doctrines, trivia, quiz nights, myths, comedy nights, clothes swish and illicit marriages, perhaps they will give a little time to considering the Word of God! (2 Timothy 3:1-5).

Princess Elizabeth's initiation into the Welsh Druids.

{1} http://trinitylifechurch.org.uk/who-we-are/ 

{2} http://trinitylifechurch.org.uk/jesus/
{3} http://trinitylifechurch.org.uk/who-we-are/
{4} https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2017/10/the-continual-stream-of-666-emanating.html
{5} https://www.openhandsleicester.org.uk/who-we-are/
{6} http://www.hrballiance.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/9-Big-Lottery-Alice-Grimes.pdf
{7} https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2014/01/trinity-life-church-leicester-going.html
{8} https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/05903490/officers
{9} https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/08/us/willow-creek-church-resignations-bill-hybels.html
{10} https://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/ELEPHANT-IN-THE-ROOM-WHAT-IS-WRONG-WITH-WILLOW-CREEK-CHURCHBILL-HYBELS
{11} https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2016/10/trinity-life-church-leicester-and-open.html

A CHALLENGE FOR SERVUS CHRISTI!

Servus Christi's website is http://beginningofsorrows.org/ The name of Servus Christi is Joshua Chavez, although he is also known by various other names.

Chavez has written a number of posts about what is known as "secondary separation" aka "guilt by association", implicating Calvinist teachers Paul Washer, John MacArthur John Piper and Justin Peters. Pupit and Pen have responded to these accusations: Demolishing Servus Christi with Two Screenshots, stating "..this is more akin to the game 'Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon,' than sound exegesis."{1}

The doctrine of separation is a dominant theme throughout the scriptures. The prohibition of participation in, and identification with, blatant godlessness and unbelief is an undeniable biblical imperative. This imperative is undoubtedly applicable to fellow believers and compromised Christian ministries: 2 Thessalonians 3:6,14; Romans 16:17 1 Corinthians 5:1–1.

If the above teachers have had some kind of secondary association with ecumenicals, this should not surprise us at all, since their primary error is Calvinism. This means that their biblical understanding of soteriology is skewed on a fundamental level. Until this error is addressed and rectified, then we should expect further errors to follow. The fact that these so called "teachers" are Calvinists, is, by itself, sufficient reason to separate from them, since soteriology is a primary issue i.e. limited atonement quite literally limits the gospel of Jesus Christ! (2 Corinthians 11:4).

I have read some good articles on Beginning of Sorrows, but Chavez does not seem to engage in any kind of deep theological study or discussion, rather he focuses on surface issues and emotional responses.

Unfortunately Chavez's endorsement of Jacob Prasch is misplaced. If only believers would take the time and trouble to study the scriptures as we are exhorted to do, Prasch's error would become obvious. (2 Timothy 2:15).

To reiterate the error of Prasch's intra-seal theory: He erroneously merges three primary passages of scripture incorporating the "birth pangs" motif, namely, the Olivet Discourse Matthew 24:9, 21, 29; Revelation 12 and John 16:20-22.

These three passages illustrate three completely different scenarios:

• Mathew 24 refers to the beginning of sorrows (birth pains) as worldwide phenomena during the first half of the 70th week of Daniel, inflicted by the four horsemen of the apocalypse. (Revelation 6).
• Revelation 12 refers to the woman, Israel, and the birth of Jesus Christ.
• John 16:20-22 refers to the birth of the church. John did not primarily address the end times as per the synoptic gospels because he wrote the book of Revelation. Revelation is a confirmation of Matthew 24.

A text without a context is a pretext for a proof text.

The discussion on Facebook copied below demonstrates Chavez's staunch support for Prasch. In one respect this is admirable, since we should support good bible teachers. However in this particular instance, I do recommend that Chavez undertakes a comprehensive study the above passages in order to "test the spirits", and to "prove all things", rather than summarily rejecting any doubts expressed about Prasch without considering the evidence. (1 John 4:1; 1 Thessalonians 5:21). If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame. (Proverbs 18:13). I do in fact understand Chavez's position. I also supported Prasch for a number of years until the details of intra-seal became problematic for me. A number of Prasch's followers have informed me that they simply "do not understand" intra-seal. This no excuse. We are to pay close attention to doctrines. (1 Timothy 4:16). Even a little study in this area will reveal the flaws in Prasch's convoluted theory.

Why is the intra-seal theory so dangerous? 

• Intra-seal denies the presence of the Holy Spirit in the world for the entire 70th week of Daniel. Whoever the Restrainer of 2 Thessalonians 2:6-7 is, he is not taken out of the way until the mid point of the "week". (Daniel 9:27).
• Intra-seal denies conviction of sin in unbelievers for the entire 70th Week of Daniel.
• Intra-seal denies the Gospel of Jesus Christ for this entire seven year period of time. (Revelation 14:6).
• Intra-seal is disinformation. It is Prasch's attempt to add to the confusion already surrounding the subject of the rapture amongst believers. In my view this is a deliberate ploy to create uncertainty and spiritual blindness as we enter the 70th week.

Prasch appears to be an "impressive" teacher in certain respects. However, when someone teaches serious error on such an important subject as eschatology, it throws their whole ministry into doubt. (1 Corinthians 5:6).

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. (Revelation 22:18-19 cf. Proverbs 30:6).

Joshua Chavez, I believe that you are suffering from a severe case of cognitive dissonance where Prasch is concerned. You have dismissed the evidence presented in response to a specific claim by continually demanding some other (unfulfillable) piece of evidence. Obviously I could not present a comprehensive argument against intra-seal on FB comments. Closed-minded, defensive, truth-resistant people often shoot the messenger and hide their head in the sand.. this attitude is definitely not recommended for someone claiming to be in the discernment ministry! I have tried to respond to you graciously, and I hope that you will undertake some serious bible study in this area rather than responding on a superficial level as you did on FB. God bless you.

Servus Christi

· 20 July at 22:24 · 

If you do not already, I highly recommend following/supporting the ministry of Moriel TV and James Jacob Prasch. Balanced and indispensable bible teaching for these days will be found here without compromise. You can find MorielTV on Roku, Vimeo and YouTube. I don't recommend people lightly.

Here is one such excellent teaching about the state of affairs in the church today.

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Moriel TV Why thank you good sir

Servus Christi I wouldn't feed someone a meal I wouldn't eat myself. Good "food" to be found at Moriel. Thank you.

Mike Scarborough Thanks!

I’m new to him but starting listening since I first heard you mention him.

Kristin Kiger Kernan I would add David Nathan, YouTube channel is his name, and Bill Randles at Believers in Grace YouTube channel.

Helen Morris I have been listening to James for the last couple of years and enjoy his commentaries. One of the most solid teachers I have come across.

Leslie Osterthaler Couldn’t agree more, the TRUTH of the WORD is found with this ministry and it’s solid teachings!

Paula Coyle oh my gosh no. Please no. These guys are as bad or worse than the guys you have been exposing. This is incredibly disappointing.

Servus Christi In what way? Please be specific.

Jolyn M Arterbury I love his teachings! Eve n if it is a subject I know a lot about, I always learn something new!

Cal Teichmann I can not support this man. He called Chuck Smith Sr. a true man of God in a video which I watched, which I totally disagree with because Chuck Smith was a heretic, maybe he is ignorant of Chuck Smith's past, but it is easily to find out he who and what Chuck Smith believed in and with whom he supported.

There were other's that I have a problem with that Jacob Prasch supported. I will find the video and link it to you.

But I have agreed with some things he teaches, but I have a problem that he NEVER allows any comments on his video's to correct his false leanings!

So I also can not agree with you on this man....at this time.

Servus Christi Is it your contention that telling someone to repent is preaching works, yes or no?

Define, specifically how Billy Graham "preached works"

Regarding your article... You should be able to voice Chuck's "heresy" in a sentence or two. That you're not doing that is telling. I'm well acquainted with Chuck Smith. State one or two of the reasons he's a heretic.

Treena Gisborn I am surprised you are recommending this intra-seal hooligan who has now decided that Billy Graham was a good evangelist! Where is your discernment?

Heather N Christian Do you think that people who believe something other than a pre-trib rapture are “hooligans”?

Servus Christi Martyn Lloyd-Jones commended Billy's evangelism as well, but not his actions. Was Lloyd-Jones a "hooligan" as well?

Treena Gisborn I am not pre-trib Heather... I suggest you do a bit of study into Prasch's intra-seal theory - it is full of errors!!! https://www.amazon.co.uk/INTRA-SEAL-RAPTURE.../dp/B06X6N2JJT Alternatively I have written several posts on this subject: …See moreManage

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Treena Gisborn Servus Christi -- I called him a "hooligan" because he was wearing a t-shirt with "hooligan" plastered all over it when he was teaching his false intra-seal deception at one point! You should do your homework on Prasch. Yes he teaches SOME truth.. but BEWARE. God bless.

Treena Gisborn I fully endorsed Martyn Lloyd Jones stand against Billy Graham. However Billy Graham was not a "good" evangelist since he did not give the whole gospel.. eg. he did not believe in hell/eternal damnation. He was mixed up with the Rockefellers.. https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/.../southern...Manage

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Treena Gisborn Heather N Christian I am not pre-trib heather. Like many others I was fooled by Prasch for a long time. God bless.

Cal Teichmann Treena Gisborn Yes anyone that does NOT call Billy Graham a heretic is highly questionable in their discernment and their Gospel.

Thank you for putting this up!

Cal Teichmann Treena Gisborn And Billy Graham's so-called evangelism was a works salvation, anyone who considers themselves a "teacher/Pastor" should be warning the Sheep of ALL who follow a different Gospel and a false Christ!

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Treena Gisborn I think you are right Cal. I am not a Calvinist.. John MacArthur 's teaching raises some very serious questions. We really do need to "test all things" 1 Thessalonians 5:21. God bless you.

Cal Teichmann Treena Gisborn And you.

Servus Christi Treena,

You're not pre-trib yet you have an unhealthy obsession with Jacob's NON pretrib view?

You sound confused.

Your comment about him being a "hooligan" is disingenuous. You said it to slander and now you're lying.

So please share with the class what your eschatological view is and why you are so perturbed by Jacob's view.

Keep it brief. We're not interested in you promoting your 78 page leaflet. Summarize, please.

Servus Christi And Cal, for all of Billy's faults, preaching a "works" was not one of them. What are you even talking about?

Cal Teichmann Servus Christi Are you serious Billy Graham's "FAULTS"?!

He was a heretic, he was involved with the Mason's!

He preached a false Gospel, and honored the Pope!

How can you say that?

BG stated on live television the Pope went to Heaven!

Faults! How about false Gospel!

Cal Teichmann Servus Christi By the way BG lead people into the sinners prayer at his so-called Crusades. Then sent them out to various churches which included the Roman Catholic church!

Faults!

Servus Christi I'm asking you to substantiate "works" salvation preached by Billy Graham. Nothing else.

Treena Gisborn Perhaps I have an obsession with the truth SC. Prasch's intra-seal teaching is full of errors. If you don't want to read my material then fine, but I do suggest you do your own research. As I have already explained, he was wearing a t shirt with "Hooli…See more

Treena Gisborn Just to add - Prasch teaches that no-one will be saved during the entire 70th week of Daniel... This is very serious error. Please do your own research.

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Servus Christi Treena,

I asked for a summary you have still not provided. Provide a direct quote from Jacob and why you find it to be biblically in error. This shouldn't be that hard.

Treena Gisborn "There will be no church, no preaching of the gospel and no Holy Spirit during the 70th week of Daniel...." Really SC I suggest you watch for yourself on YouTube. Do you think this is a denial of the gospel? I have done the work, but if people refuse to look at it there is nothing more I can do. I did try to question Prasch about this doctrine, but he became very abusive when I pressed him! God is no respecter of persons... even the mighty JP! God bless.

Treena Gisborn also "and no conviction of sin" I have quoted him verbatim a number of times.. but the same old problem... people love their favourite teachers more than the Word!

Servus Christi You have failed to provide a biblical objection to those statements. An assertion is not an argument.

Cal Teichmann Treena Gisborn I do have a question. What about the Two Prophets that will preach in Jerusalem for 3 yrears, then they will be killed, then resurrected? Is that not preaching?

I am not being antagonistic here a sincere question.

Thank you.

Cal Teichmann Treena Gisborn I actually have found that on Jacob Prasch's youtube videos, no comments are allowed.

I find that very disconcerting.

Treena Gisborn Cal Teichmann Exactly Cal.... What is the point of the two prophets if not to preach the gospel? Also an angel from heaven warns the inhabitants of earth not to take the mark... Rev:14:9 "And at that hour there was a great earthquake, and a tenth of the city fell. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the rest were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven." Revl :11:13... Clearly people ARE saved during the 70th week. God bless.

Treena Gisborn Prasch "Once Satan fails to prevent the rapture by killing all the believers.. he turns against the Jews." (18:00) This is a blatant reversal of events as they are recorded in the scriptures! (Revelation 22:18). Satan turns against the Jews before the tribulation! (Revelation 12:13-17). Prasch has moved the goal posts significantly here! If the rapture occurs before the flight of Israel, then this would put the timing of the rapture before the mid point of the week, but Prasch has already stated that the rapture will occur between the sixth and seventh seals. Prasch: "The fifth seal begins the persecution of the church... After the rapture God pours out his wrath on the kingdom of Antichrist and refocuses on the redemption of Israel." God's focus goes back to Israel at the mid point of the 70th week when He protects them from the Antichrist. (Revelation 12:13-16; cf. Zechariah 12:10). The Jews flee to the wilderness, and shortly afterwards, in his frustration, the Antichrist turns his attention towards Christians. (Revelation 12:17). God continues to protect Israel for the period of the tribulation (3.5 years cut short). Israel remains on the earth after the rapture during the Day of the Lord i.e. the wrath of God, though obviously they do not experience the wrath with the rest of the world. This blatant scripture twisting just about sums up the ministry of Jacob Prasch!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB13W4cvbd8&feature=youtu.be If you really want to listen to thirty minutes of Prasch's scripture twisting this is a good example. Be careful SC Prasch is PROVABLY a false teacher.

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UPDATE 1st August 2018: I originally thought that Servus Christi aka Joshua Chavez was delusional in his support for Jacob Prasch/Moriel whom he now works for as an administrator. I have changed my mind. Chavez is just the right person to carry out Moriel's dirty work. Beware!

Tim Wirth: "Hi everyone I want to introduce everyone to Josh Chav. He will help with admin duties as well as Moriel YouTube, Vimeo and Roku. Josh is a great guy and runs a very solid website Servus Christi. I would encourage you to sign up at his site here. I will be on a temporary hiatus from Moriel to focus on my first ministry which is my wife. Make sure you welcome Josh. Moriel, as well as myself, are blessed to have his kind assistance. Thank you for your continued prayers and blessings in Jesus -Tim" {2}

1. http://pulpitandpen.org/2018/03/23/demolishing-servus-christi-two-screenshots/
2. https://www.facebook.com/pg/MorielTV/posts/?ref=page_internal