Louis responds to the latest video: John Haller, Bill Randles, Ian Huxham & Amos Farrell respond to David Nathan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPzfy83U5Y0
The accusation in this video is that David Nathan has still not cleared up the question of blood sacrifices during the millennium. This accusation is patently untrue as demonstrated by David Nathan's response to Bill Randles dated 15th October 2018:
"The statement which I should not have made but rather should have sought to express myself very differently and that folk have objected to is, “The Blood of Jesus will not profit anyone, anything in the Millennium.” In using this phrase, which I regret, I was not stating that the Blood of Jesus does not cleanse in all ages as this would be a clear violation of scripture. His blood alone can take away sin and every sacrifice from Genesis 3:21, when the Lord clothed Adam and Eve in tunics of skin to the sacrifices of the Millennium all point to Jesus. In the teaching I kept using the word atone to describe the purpose of the millennial sacrifices in the sense that they do not remove sin but cover sin. I reiterate again that I do not teach nor believe that the sin of an animal or animals can ever remove sin. Not under the Old Testament, not now nor in the age to come. Only the Blood of Jesus can remove sin both now and forever, including the millennium. This is and has always been what I have believed though I did not express it succinctly in the series on Eschatology." https://www.bolm.co.za/index_htm_files/Response%20to%20Bill%20Randles%20-%20Open%20Letter.pdf
Incredibly at the end of their accusatory video against David Nathan, Amos Farrell urges "brothers and sisters - Stop this -this is totally ?? it is not edifying the church or any individual.." I think that many people are wondering why Moriel's stooges do not "stop this" in light of David Nathan's clear refutation back in October, and his further video Addressing BOLM in Regards to Jacob Prasch:
https://youtu.be/c2TnH52Rmu0
Amos Farrell has also recently questioned the validity of my claim that the Sisterhood of Mary are ecumenical in a previous post:
JACOB PRASCH & DAVID NOAKES MORIEL CONFERENCE 2018! ECUMENISM BY STEALTH?
https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2018/09/jacob-prasch-david-noakes-moriel.html#comments
Evidence that the Sisterhood of Mary are ecumenical:
Wikipedia gives the following information: "The Evangelical Sisterhood of Mary is an ecumenical, Lutheran based, religious order."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelical_Sisterhood_of_Mary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelical_Sisterhood_of_Mary
Schlink, Mother Basilea
https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=9049362913&searchurl=sortby%3D20%26an%3Dmother%2Bbasilea%2Bschlink&cm_sp=snippet-_-srp1-_-title5
Book Review by IAGS: Mothering the Fatherland: A Protestant Sisterhood Repents for the Holocaust
"The immediate impetus for the formation of the Ecumenical Sisters of Mary, as the group was called.."
https://scholarcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.co.uk/&httpsredir=1&article=1394&context=gsp
Basilea Schlink was a sister of Professor Edmund Schlink (3 March 1903 – 20 May 1984) who was a leading German Lutheran theologian in the modern ecumenical movement, especially in the World Council of Churches.
"Schlink (1903-1984) published an ecumenical systematic theology (Őkumenische Dogmatik, Schlink 1983a) shortly before his death, which remains probably the only work of its kind until today.. In the book, forewords by the Roman Catholic Heinrich Fries and the Orthodox Nikos Nissiotis also welcome and praise the book in glowing terms." http://www.scielo.org.za/pdf/vee/v29n2/09.pdf
It is rather strange that every time there is another video put out on David Nathan it's as if he has NEVER replied or responded to anything leveled at him and yet he has consistently responded and asked for reconciliation etc. and yet Prasch's camp remains blind and deaf as is stated in the title. Praying that those who follow blindly.
ReplyDeleteIt is time Moriel's spin doctors STOPPED THIS!! It is they that are keeping this controversy alive and prolonging the division. I think that by now we have all got the point that ONLY the blood of Jesus Christ removes sin!
ReplyDelete"For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified." Hebrews 10:14
God bless.
I agree with the two comments above. Moriel have gone way too far. Beyond what is revealed in scripture, who really knows with absolute certainty what the millennial sacrifices are about? I for one don't. So I personally think that this theological dispute is about as absurd as the theological argument over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. I mean, really? How is this important? Does this dispute even need to be voiced? If Moriel had not drawn eveybody's attention to it by an add-on in their Quarterly, I would not have known. Now that I know, what am I supposed to do with this information? So David Nathan is wrong? And Moriel is right? Big deal. . And who cares? There are really serious issues happening in the disbelieving church confronting Christianity . . . and Moriel focuses on this? Absurdity! They are straining at gnats and swallowing camels, are they not?
ReplyDeletePrasch's sycophants are obviously determined to keep this farce going!
ReplyDeleteGod bless.
Very sad that teachers such as John Haller and Bill Randles have tarnished their reputations and from henceforth their ministries by participating in a video which is nothing more than propaganda for a self-deluded Diotrephes who has disqualified himself as a minister of the gospel for many reasons. One more exposer of heretics has now been exposed as a heretic himself and possibly, a false convert. He appears to be devoid of the love of Christ and is an unrepentant accuser of the brethren. I am sure there is a defamation case (or cases) that can lawfully come forth from this sad situation which must be causing the wicked one to be rejoicing.
ReplyDeleteI said that this would be a defining moment for Bill Randles, and indeed it is. After Bill read Counting the Omer, he wrote "What are the implications of Jacob not getting the counting of the Omer exactly right?" He said that he would look at intra-seal back in November, but now says that he has not yet had the time. Very disappointing.
ReplyDeletehttps://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2018/11/jacob-prasch-moriel-ministries-counting.html
You say that these men have "tarnished their reputations and from henceforth their ministries by participating in a video which is nothing more than propaganda for a self-deluded Diotrephes who has disqualified himself as a minister of the gospel for many reasons." I couldn't have put it better.
God bless.
I think Mike Evans has said it right.
ReplyDeleteThe problem is that mud sticks. How many famous people, especially politicians have made unguarded statements (or things said out of context) over the years, only to have had their careers ruined, even though they have recanted? Nathan can apologise all he likes, but judgment has been passed!
Mr Erasmus is correct, Nathan has become a scapegoat, and no doubt all of Prasch's, Randles and co's acolytes will be satisfied that their heroes are fully vindicated. The verbal and spiritual abuse aside, quite how any of these men mentioned by Erasmus can share a platform with Prasch when he validates David Noakes ministry, only goes to display their spiritual ignorance.
God bless.