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Sunday, 21 October 2018


I have previously warned that Jacob Prasch will be sharing a platform with ecumenical "prophet" David Noakes whom he regards as a "valid prophetic voice", at Moriel's Scottish Conference in November. {1} Noakes' first person extra-biblical prophecies should be of great concern to anyone supporting Moriel. We know that the canon of scripture is complete and that any prophecy should be tested against the scriptures. (1 John 4:4) These extra-biblical "revelations" from Noakes concerning Britain are highly irregular for two reasons. Firstly he is ecumenical, which as many will appreciate, precludes him from the office of "prophet" and in fact even puts doubt upon his faith as a genuine believer. Secondly, Noakes' prophecy concerning Britain has no foundation in the scriptures. The Bible contains all the revelation we need for life and godliness (2 Peter 1:3). The Word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword (Hebrews 4:12). The Bible is “useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work” (2 Timothy 3:16-17). 

This is not the first time that Prasch has supported an ecumenical teacher! He openly supports ecumenist and false prophet Clifford Hill, founder of Issachar Ministries and Prophecy Today. His baffling endorsement of ecumenist Chuck Smith is another blatant case in point. {2} More recently, Prasch's endorsement of Billy Graham's false ministry as portrayed by Jackie Alnor is also inexplicable considering his previous criticism of Graham. {3}

The Plank in Jacob Prasch's Eye

Apart from his ecumenical associations, Jacob Prasch's intra seal theory is a preposterous denial of the gospel! Intra-seal is a perverse doctrine that cuts unbelievers off from God during the final seven years of history, the period known as Daniel's seventieth week. Intra-seal has been taught by Prasch several times dogmatically. It is important to make the distinction that David Nathan (Bread of Life Ministries South Africa) proposed his millennium theory as his own opinion. He has repeated this proviso on a number of occasions. Intra-seal is more dangerous than Nathan's millennium error since it concerns the salvation of unbelievers in this age. Prasch teaches John Nelson Darby's pre-trib error that the Holy Spirit is the "restrainer" of 2 Thessalonians 2:2-3. There is absolutely no foundation for this view in the scriptures. Prasch also teaches that the Holy Spirit will be taken from the world, that there will be no church (since when did believers cease to be the church?), there will be no gospel, grace will come to an end, there will be no conviction of sin etc. for these final seven years. How then will unbelievers be saved during the 70th week, and where does it say any of these things in the scriptures? Shall we write off unbelievers during the 70th week on Prasch's say so?

As far as I am aware, David Nathan has not challenged intra-seal directly. However, on at least one occasion he categorically stated that the "restrainer" of 2 Thessalonians 2:2-4 is the Archangel Michael and not the Holy Spirit. On a past video recording, he explained the phrase: "At that time", confirming that Daniel 12:1 refers to Israel and the end times, and that Michael will “stand aside” (Hebrew amad): "That is who is restraining, it is Michael, the angel that God has set over his people Israel." David Nathan not only confirmed the pre-wrath position, he also confirmed that a seven year tribulation is definitely not found in the scriptures. As such he has rejected intra-seal by default. The YouTube video in question has unfortunately been deleted: Eschataology Part 7 (The seven seals). {4}

David Nathan's lack of support for intra-seal may be a factor explaining why he really fell out of favour with Prasch who does not like to be gainsaid. This very subject was brought up by Lifestyle C who no longer endorse David Nathan since Prasch's termination of their association:

Danie Strydom, Lifestyle C: "With this response by Jacob we concur although we personally have more questions outstanding currently that have not been answered to satisfaction in our own context in South Africa on teachings on Prayer as well as Reformed Theology and the Angel as Restrainer with which we differ with David and which has also led to this decision!" {5}

It would be very helpful to get clarification from David Nathan  about his intra-seal views, although perhaps he considers that a counter attack upon Prasch's dubious eschatology is unwise at this time (?)

The primary requirement for anyone pronouncing judgement on another is that the "judge" does not have the same or a worse sin in their own lives. In fact Matthew 7:1-5 promises that hypocritical judgements upon others will bring about judgement upon ourselves. Jacob Prasch has put himself in a very perilous position before God a number of times, but it seems to have peaked out in his attack upon David Nathan. Considering Prasch's undeniable ecumenical associations and his own false intra-seal theory that he teaches dogmatically, is Prasch in a position to judge David Nathan on any level? He is clearly not qualified to take the "splinter" out of David Nathan's eye. Even if he were in a position to expose Nathan's error, which he is not, the manner this has been executed has reinforced him as a particularly unpleasant character together with his henchman Servus Christi aka Joshua Chavez. Moriel already has a reputation as an abusive ministry. An abuser is called a "reviler" in the scriptures and Christians are warned against associations with such people. (1 Corinthians 5:11)

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.
(Matthew 7:1-5).

Pulpit Commentary: "..the passage as a whole does not say that we never ought to try to remove such "motes," but that this is monstrous and almost impossible so long as we ourselves have a fault of so much magnitude as censoriousness."

Gill's Exposition: "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye,.... Very rightly does our Lord call such a man an hypocrite, who is very free in remarking and reproving other men's sins, and covering his own; and indeed, one end of his critical observations, rigid censures, and rash judgments is, that he might be thought to be holier than he is."

Matthew Poole's Commentary: "That it is notorious impudence to pretend to censure and judge others for sins in which we live ourselves." 

"a perverse judge.." {6}

Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. (Romans 2:1 cf. John 8:7).

I do have reservations about the ministry of David Nathan due to the views he proposed about animal sacrifices and the Blood of Christ in the Millennium, albeit that he has now modified those views. Critically, David Nathans Right of Reply {7} omitted Bill Randles voiced concern: "It is inconceivable for me to believe that anyone could be reconciled to God on any level other than by the blood of Jesus." {8} This edited video by GV247.tv was misleading, and the resulting response by Jacob Prasch puts both Stewart Menelaws and David Nathan in a bad light. Regarding David Nathan's teaching about clothing/cloths being infused with healing power, apparently this was retracted some years ago (?) Clearly there have been (or still are) doctrinal errors within Bread of Life Ministries that cannot easily be dismissed. (James 3:1).

In spite of my reservations, David Nathan's full apology on Bill Randles blog does show a humility I have rarely, if ever, seen in a bible teacher. I think he deserves credit and encouragement for this. True followers of Jesus Christ surely do not want him to be completely cast down beyond measure. None of us are without sin.. we would not want our own failings aired in such a vicious manner! The Lord's blessing and help will surely be there for anyone who is willing to humble himself so publicly and completely. I have to admire David Nathan for this.

15th October 2018

Dear Pastor Bill

Thank you for the spirit in which your open letter has been written and the grace extended to me, to publically express my position and understanding of animal sacrifices and the Blood of Christ in the Millennium which has caused much unwanted consternation and strife amongst the brethren. This was never my intention and if I could, I would turn the clock back and do things very differently. I also want to apologise publicly if I appeared to come across in the teachings as arrogant and prideful as I certainly never intended to be, for my desire is to reflect Jesus at all times although I am aware I often fall short.

Sadly this unpleasant circumstance has exposed the hearts of numerous believers and many have brought a serious indictment against the Church of Jesus because of their conduct and responses, I do not exclude myself.

For this, I cannot take the blame exclusively as there is a correct and biblical way to deal with disagreement and error which was not followed. I do not write this as a justification or a defence but rather as a warning that what has transpired between myself and Moriel must never be repeated again for sake of our testimony to the world and those of the flock who have been badly shaken.

To begin with, I want to acknowledge that I made some very dogmatic statements which instead of giving emphasis to what I was try to explain, had the complete opposite effect and misconstrued what I was trying to convey. For this, I want to unreservedly and wholeheartedly apologise.

I am extremely grateful that you acknowledge that I do not teach that there is salvation except through the shed blood of Jesus and that the whole concern is regarding the Blood of Jesus and salvation in the Millennium alone.

The statement which I should not have made but rather should have sought to express myself very differently and that folk have objected to is, “The Blood of Jesus will not profit anyone, anything in the Millennium.”

In using this phrase, which I regret, I was not stating that the Blood of Jesus does not cleanse in all ages as this would be a clear violation of scripture. His blood alone can take away sin and every sacrifice from Genesis 3:21, when the Lord clothed Adam and Eve in tunics of skin to the sacrifices of the Millennium all point to Jesus. In the teaching I kept using the word atone to describe the purpose of the millennial sacrifices in the sense that they do not remove sin but cover sin. I reiterate again that I do not teach nor believe that the sin of an animal or animals can ever remove sin. Not under the Old Testament, not now nor in the age to come. Only the Blood of Jesus can remove sin both now and forever, including the millennium. This is and has always been what I have believed though I did not express it succinctly in the series on Eschatology.

I only offer the above as an explanation of why I used the phrase and not as an excuse for trying to justify using it. I was wrong to use it as it does not, nor ever did convey what I actually believe regarding the eternal cleansing power of the Blood of Jesus which alone removes sin for all ages.

I sincerely apologise for misrepresenting my beliefs and using a phrase that instead of explaining what I believed rather distorted them and led to confusion among believers and dissension between myself and Moriel Ministries. Moriel TV very unfortunately produced a highly edited video that took various statements that I had made out of context which only exasperated the issue. (They have done this on more than one occasion since Tim Wirth was replaced)

The motive for this remains unclear as in response to my meeting with Jacob in May, Jacob Prasch himself admitted in an email dated 22 July 2018, and I quote, “The best I could gauge the situation personally was that he partially misrepresented his own actual beliefs in the manner he addressed an important theological issue and was to some degree misunderstood. David Nathan does subscribe to the Moriel statement of Faith that The Blood of Christ cleanses from all Sin.”

I add this not as an excuse for poorly communicating my beliefs as already mentioned but rather to evidence that for reasons never disclosed, Moriel TV sought fit to produce a biased video that exaggerated the error out of context.

I have already and will continue to re-edit these teachings to remove anything that contradicts what I have conveyed above.

Regarding Moriel’s video comparing me to Benny Hinn in an old teaching I did in 2009. I want to state that I no longer believe what I taught and berate myself for still even believing that in 2009.

I can categorically state that I absolutely do not teach this anymore and I have edited the video in question to reflect this and will go through old teachings to make sure that this does not appear. I have issued an apology already for this and gladly do it again.

I do hope that this letter serves to remind us all that none of us is above correction nor do any one of us know all truth as Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 13:12 but we are all to be teachable and be willing to learn. Where we err we must repent and apologise where necessary.

Thank you Pastor Bill for making this platform available.

May the Lord continue to mature us and keep us by His grace until we all come to the knowledge of the truth.

Blessings in Jesus who alone bore our sins and purchased eternal life for them that will believe,

David Nathan.

Perhaps this is the right time to clarify that I do not have a "vendetta" against Jacob Prasch as has been circulated by some. I have simply exposed the errors contained within intra-seal, Prasch's ecumenical associations and his hypocrisy. I do not like false teachers, particularly those who are enemies of the remnant church. Other than the above, I have no interest in Jacob Prasch whatsoever.

{1} https://www.moriel.org/
{2} https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2018/08/was-chuck-smith-ecumenical-jacob-prasch.html
{3} http://christiansentinel.com/2018/02/22/legacy-billy-graham/
{4} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmUbFG064X8
{5} http://lifestylec.com/a-scriptural-response-to-david-nathan-his-proponents-by-jacob-prasch/
{6} https://biblehub.com/matthew/7-5.htm
{7} https://www.gv247.tv/movies/shepherd/she_right2reply1.htm
{8} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeRUtdJpuXE    @ 23:00 minutes
{9} https://www.facebook.com/john8v32/posts/2779900135357176


  1. Brash Prasch has no discernment and one of last year's speakers at Hayes, Sheldon Chartier, is APPARENTLY married to a JW, although it is not verified.
    Jacob Prasch can't find any decent speakers to share the stage with him anymore. Nobody wants to be associated with a railer who is mocked behind his back by any decent theologian or academic. He is seen as a loser and even the moslems have been laughing at him bringing Christianity into disrepute. Many Christians are laughing at him See YouTube Jacob Prasch unplugged and this one doing the rounds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ9N43OqJwk&t=14s

  2. This video confirms that there is something very seriously wrong Anonymous.. possibly it is a mental health issue. I am no Calvinist and I am no fan of James White who can be very direct himself at times. However, this kind of thuggish behaviour is quite astounding! God bless.

  3. Did you see the messages the other moslems wrote? It would be really funny by calling him a thug if it wasn't sick that they might think we're all like him.

    My pastor friend says his family calls Brash (that's his nickname) JIMMY and he isn't Jewish though he married a Roman lady who is Jewish.
    He changed his name to Yacov and let people think he was Jewish then when he was challenged he changed it to Jacob.
    It's funny cuz his name means supplanter and some think it means deceiver.

    I know he likes booze which won't help matters. He loves Scotch which I know some people have a problem with but he enjoys it so it's maybe not all bad. My wife left him a half jug of Jack Daniels after a conference because his friend says he loves it.

    Our church won't have him again though because he made a woman cry when he criticized the church her daughter went to and said she would go to hell. Her unbelieving husband was very angry because he was helping at the Moriel book stand and he puts the money in a tin box when he sells his books and CeeDees but Jacob spends the money he is given, sometimes hundred of dollars when he goes out and I don't know how he reports to the IRS or if that's OKAY because Moriel is a not for profit? Not too sure how that works but his friend Jack or John Haller probably advises him cuz he's an attorney and part of Moriel and is on Facebook group. 

    Our pastor told me the other half of Moriel is called Lister and he has done some real bad things cuz our pastor and some elders had to council somebody that went to Listers church cuz it was so bad. He has lots of money too. Money is very important to Moriel and my pastor says it always comes into the talk they have. 

    Are they really Christians. Brash doesn't act or talk like one. Do you know where his testimony is?
    We need to warn people if he is a heretic so thankyou for this.
    I don't have a proper account to talk to you and somebody sent me the link so I hope it is all right.


  4. I did read the comments Anonymous - what a terrible witness to those Muslims and to others.

    Prasch says himself that his father was Jewish and his mother was RC and that his wife is Jewish.. it is on his website I believe.

    I have heard the other rumours, but I have concentrated my posts on known facts. I tend to stick to the two or three witnesses rule. (2 Corinthians 13:1). If you can verify any of these things then contact me on Messenger and I will look into it further.

    Like a lot of other things, Prasch's testimony does not add up. He boasts that his belief in the rapture between the sixth and seventh seal pre-dates the pre-wrath view. I wrote about this in a previous post:

    "Jacob Prasch claims that he became a Christian in February of 1972 through The Children of God cult. After leaving The Children of God, he admits to getting caught up in various false teachings during the following five years.{1} That brings us to 1977. Robert Van Kampen taught and developed what is known today as the "pre-wrath" rapture during the 1970s, and Marvin Rosenthal eventually published his book The Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Church in 1990.{2} Is JP seriously expecting us to believe that he had his eschatology all sorted out during the 1970's prior to Van Kampen and Rosenthall?"

  5. Prasch has now resorted to more covert means of attacking David Nathan through his newsletter!


    Spurious claims that the David Nathan's 'praying power into cloth' video are his views from 2008 are demonstrably dishonest and disingenuous. The video was posted on Youtube 24th June , 2018 only three and one half months ago.

    We do not dispute that Mr Nathan continued to hold these views in 2008, some 15 years after supposedly leaving the heretical Word-Faith movement, but the current video is a recent posting proving those heretical views are retained 25 years after supposedly leaving the Word-Faith movement. These views were never retracted or recanted in any published statement by him of which we are aware. On it, in order to support this empowered jacket theology, he appeals to his widely erroneous 'Foundation Principles' which are likewise still in active publication and have never been retracted.

    We cannot comment on remarks brought to us that David Nathan looked younger 11 years ago than he appears on this video clip. We can assert however, that devoid of any formal retraction, that video promoting Word-Faith magic cloth slain in the spirit with a jacket false doctrine can be electronically documented to be a very recent posting only a few short months ago and not from 11 years ago. Such claims are deceitful and designed to mislead believers away from the hard reality.


  6. Hi did you know that both Jacob Prasch and Servus Christi believe that you can lose your salvation. That's basically calling Jesus a liar when he said "it is finished" on the cross. And that would mean that your on probation salvation and that you have to maintain your salvation which would then put you back under the law which is trying to maintain your salvation by works. So no, i dont think that Jacob Prasch cares about doctrine. This is a snippet from an article from apastasynow.com

    Apostasy Now!

    Last year in our correspondence with Mr. Prasch, we asked him the question:

    1. Can a group of sincere, literate, English speaking people in isolation from the rest of the world, come to a COMPLETE understanding of ALL that God deeds to us through the Bible, if all they have in their possession is a KJV without notes (without Midrash, without Eidersheim, without Josephus)?

    Prasch answered: "my answer to your first question is no."

    I have friends who express a high regard for Jacob Prasch. I have read other articles by Mr. Prasch that I recommend to others. Therefore it is difficult and somewhat painful to make this report. I wish he would just drop the word "Midrash " from his preaching and teaching vocabulary.

    The fact is, it only takes a little leaven to leaven the whole lump, and Jacob's goal of bringing Midrash into Christendom is the leaven which I must denounce because it smacks of nothing less than the error of priest-craft, in which he presents himself as the expert that we need to learn from before we can rightly understand our Bible. His error also plays well into the Apostasy of Christendom wherein the foundations of our Faith are being systematically called into question and then destroyed.

    I have no evidence that Mr. Prasch is conspiratorially working with any segment of the Hebrew Roots movement, so it could be that he is just an unwitting tool of those Judaizers and they will not be content with Christ's "one new man" (Eph.2:15), unless that man is Jewish in culture, tradition and religion.

    In any case I think that we had better GET THAT CAMEL'S NOSE OUT OF OUR TENT!

    Report by Richard Engstrom

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  7. Thank you for your comment Slaw777.

    I do agree with you about Midrash, although I have not written anything on this particular subject. Rabbinic midrashim is the mode of interpretation prominent in the Talmud.. but did not Jesus Christ reject the Pharisees and teachers of the law? Critically the rabbis had no understanding of who Jesus actually was! (John 3:10; 5:39) Therefore they are not a reliable source. The Pharisees preserved the Pharisaical oral law in the form of the Talmud. They became the foundation of Rabbinic Judaism. What Prasch teaches in this respect sounds very clever.. but Jesus Himself always pointed to the scriptures (Matthew 22:29 etc.) Prasch denies the sufficiency of the scriptures! 2 Timothy 3:16-17.

    As for eternal security, this is a controversial question. After much struggle very early in my Christian life, I found that I could not reconcile many verses with this particular teaching.

    Timothy 4:1-2 “Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hycocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron.”
    2 Peter 2:20-22, “For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them.
    But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to its own vomit," and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire."

    God bless.

  8. Can a true believer ever lose his salvation by either sinning or ceasing to believe, or in any other way?

    The Proof of Security

    The doctrine of eternal security rests on a proper concept of what God actually does when He saves a soul.

    He loves to the uttermost (John 13:1).

    He purposes to keep in spite of everything (John 10:28-30).

    He intends to present us faultless before Himself (Jude 24).

    His Son ever lives to make intercession to keep us saved (Heb. 7:25; I John 2:1).

    His Spirit has placed us into the Body of Christ (I Co. 12:13).

    His Spirit has sealed us until the day of redemption (Eph. 4:30).

    His Word guarantees that nothing (including ourselves) can separate us from Christ (Rom. 8:23-39). In order to lose one’s salvation all of these works of God would have to be undone, and the Bible nowhere even hints that this is possible.

    Heb. 6:4-6. If this teaches that one can lose his salvation, it also teaches that one can never be saved a second time. This passage is not talking about non-Christians but about mature and immature Christians (compare 5:12ff).

    John 15:6. Probably refers to the judgment seat of Christ.

    James 2:14-26. Non-working faith is not a faith that saves in the first place.

    2 Peter 2 and Jude are referring to false teachers, who in Jude’s estimation were not true believers (Jude 19; cf. Rom. 8:9).

    Matthew 24:13. End of what? (The great tribulation).

  9. Slaw 777 - I see that you have left three comments on this subject. I will not post all of them as I intend writing a post on this subject at some point in the future. In the meantime, I do not think that I can do any better than Joe Schimmel's teaching on YouTube which is fairly exhaustive.
    God bless.