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Thursday, 28 September 2017

SEPTEMBER 23RD FIASCO: DAVID MEADE, SCOTT CLARKE, MARK BILTZ, MICHAEL ROOD!

Watch out for the false prophets who bring the gospel into disrepute with their concocted calculations: David Meade, Scott Clarke, Mark Biltz, Michael Rood.
(2 Peter 2:2; Romans 16:17).

Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, who formed you from the womb: “I am the Lord, who made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself, who frustrates the signs of liars and makes fools of diviners.. (Isaiah 44:24-25).

You are wearied with your many counsels; let them stand forth and save you, those who divide the heavens, who gaze at the stars, who at the new moons make known what shall come upon you. Behold, they are like stubble; the fire consumes them; they cannot deliver themselves from the power of the flame. (Isaiah 47:13-14).

David Meade: "Christian numerologist", and self-described “specialist in research and investigations”, originially claimed that the rogue planet Nibiru aka Planet X would collide with the earth on September 23rd and that this event would coincide with the rapture. Meade and other false teachers refer to the "Revelation 12 sign", due to the astronomical alignment involving the constellations Virgo and Leo, the sun, moon, and planets Mercury, Mars, Venus, and Jupiter occurring in September 2017. {1}

And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth. And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads seven diadems. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it. She gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which she is to be nourished for 1,260 days. (Revelation 12:1-6).

Meade tied his dubious prediction to the following verses in Luke's gospel:

And there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth distress of nations in perplexity because of the roaring of the sea and the waves, people fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world. For the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (Luke 21:25-26).

The impossibility of Meade's prediction is easily demonstrated. The signs recorded in Luke 21:25-26 immediately precede the second coming (Parousia) of Jesus Christ following the great tribulation and the reign of the Antichrist. The "sign", if we want to call it that, is when the man of lawlessness aka the Antichrist, is revealed i.e. when he takes his seat in the temple of God and proclaims himself to be God. The rapture will not precede this event! (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4).

Astrology is the occultic interpretation of the movements and relative positions of celestial objects, allegedly to gain information about human affairs and terrestrial events. If we recognise the validity of the book of 1 Enoch, the teaching of “astrology” and “the constellations” originated with the fallen angels. 

1 Enoch 8:1-4:

“And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all 2 colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, ‘Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . .”

The scriptures trace astrology and other forbidden practices back to ancient Babylon. Various practitioners: ..astrologers, magicians, spiritists, enchanters, stargazers, sorcerers, fortune tellers and diviners are all part of what the bible describes as abomination / detestable   (2 Kings 21:2). ..for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD (Deuteronomy 18:12). Astrologers are incapable of interpreting anything. (Daniel 4:7,18).  

  • Leviticus 19:26, 31; Leviticus 20:6, 27
  • Deuteronomy 18:9-14
  • 2 Kings 21:6
  • Isaiah 8:19; Isaiah 47:13-14
  • Daniel 2:27; Daniel 4:7, 19

In Matthew, the first words Jesus spoke when asked about signs of the end of the age was a warning about deception. (repeated in verse 11):

As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are but the beginning of the birth pains. “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. (Matthew 24:3-14). 

The sun, moon and stars are related to time i.e. they separate day and night and they mark various seasons: And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years.. (Genesis 1:14). The sun, moon and stars were given for light v15, and to introduce chronology to creation.

He made the moon to mark the seasons; the sun knows its time for setting.
You make darkness, and it is night, when all the beasts of the forest creep about.
The young lions roar for their prey, seeking their food from God.
When the sun rises, they steal away and lie down in their dens.
Man goes out to his work and to his labor until the evening.
(Psalm 104:19-23).


The phrase for signs and seasons has been interpreted by some to mean astrological signs in the constellation of the Zodiac (Mazarroth), to indicate human destiny. However, there is no evidence whatsoever in the scriptures that the heavenly bodies were intended as astrological signs to predict human destiny.

The following passage is prophetic and indicates astronomical events that will occur after the great tribulation at the end of the age (Isaiah 13:9-10; Joel 3:15; Matthew 24:29-31; Luke 21:25-26). When these things do happen, no one will be in any doubt that the world as we know it is coming to an end, these "signs" will be terrifying and unmistakable!

When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood, and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale. The sky vanished like a scroll that is being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. Then the kings of the earth and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful, and everyone, slave and free, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains, calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?”
(Revelation 6:12-17).

A common excuse when date setting prophecies do not come about is to say that the prediction was miscalculated. True to form, both Meade and Clarke went on to alter their predictions. Clarke changed his date to September 24th! Meade: “The world is not ending, but the world as we know it is ending... A major part of the world will not be the same the beginning of October.” {2} 

But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep. (2 Peter 2:1-3).

Scott Pruitt (NOPRETRIB) has demonstrated the logical inconsistency of pretribulationists who break their own rules of imminence when date setting! "If a person were to correctly ascertain a future date for the rapture, then from the time the prediction is made until the event itself occurs, imminence no longer applies." {3}

Our wisdom comes from God alone and the scriptures. (James 1:5; Psalm 119:105).
Avoid these men and leave them to their delusions!

"..Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14).

{1}  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoNp8dkyYWU
{2} http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/09/22/doomsday-is-not-on-saturday-after-all-writer-says-after-predicting-end-world.html
{3} https://nopretrib.com/dont-expect-the-rapture-on-september-23-2017/comment-page-1/#comment-3438

Tuesday, 26 September 2017

JOHN (REFORMEDISPY) MACARTHUR BY DAVE MACPHERSON

      Southern California pastor John MacArthur, head of the "Grace to You" Ministry, lives to jump into theological controversies and prove to his opponents that his "grace" is more biblical than their "grace"!
       For many years he's been involved with the "Lordship Salvation controversy" (see Wikipedia).
      In recent years he's sparred over Revelation's mark of the beast. To see how he's raised many temperatures, look up "John MacArthur OUTRAGE - take Mark of Beast, still be saved..." on YouTube!
      Since last fall MacArthur has inspired articles like "John MacArthur Sends 500,000,000 Charismatics to Hell" which is still all over the web. A forthright article explaining this incendiary headline is titled "John MacArthurs Strange Fire (Calvinists hating on Arminians, again?)" which can be found on Google and which is a response to the "Strange Fire Conference" MacArthur had held earlier at his church which is still causing aftershocks around the world!
      MacArthur's controversies began after he was exposed early in life to 19th century dispensationalism which he constantly (and arrogantly) reflects by sneaking in the "any-moment rapture" into whatever his topic happens to be. At the same time he tries to somehow combine Reformed theology with Deformed Dispensationalism. (Sorry, I couldn't resist the temptation to add the word "Deformed"!)    
      Who knows, maybe John (Reformedispy) MacArthur is right and the greatest Greek scholars (Google "Famous Rapture Watchers"), who uniformly said that Rev. 3:10 means "preservation through" and not "raptured away from" were wrong. But John has a conflict.
      On the one hand, since he knows that all Christian theology and organized churches before 1830 believed the church would be on earth during the tribulation, he would like to be seen as one who stands with the great Reformers. 
      On the other hand, if John has a warehouse of unsold pretrib rapture material, and if he wants to have "security" for his retirement years and hopes that the "big California quake" won't louse up his plans, he has a decided conflict of interest. Maybe the Lord will have to help strip off the layers of his seared conscience which have grown for years in order to please his parents and his supporters - who knows? 
      One thing is for sure: pretrib is truly a house of cards and is so fragile that if a person removes just one card from the TOP of the pile, the whole thing can collapse. Which is why pretrib teachers don't dare to even suggest they could be wrong on even one little subpoint! Don't you feel sorry for the straitjacket they are in?
      While you're mulling all this over, Google "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty" for a rare behind-the-scenes look at the same Johnny-come-lately (or better yet, Margaret-come-lately) fantasy.
      I wonder how soon California's famous underground saint (San Andreas, who's hardly faultless) will get a huge statewide kick out of what's been going on over his head!

Tuesday, 19 September 2017

AT LEAST 40 PEOPLE PLANNING TO SUE JESUS ARMY OVER HISTORIC ABUSE CLAIMS!

At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?” And calling to him a child, he put him in the midst of them and said, “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
“Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me, but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea. (Matthew 18:1-6).

As I read the various reports about "alleged" historic abuse at the Jesus Army cult my blood boils. These are the heart-breaking words of former Jesus Army member Philippa Muller yesterday:

 “The abuse wasn’t just sexual, it was physical, it was financial, it was spiritual” she said. “I spent my entire upbringing based on one man’s interpretation of the bible.” {1}

It now appears that at least 40 people are planning to sue Northamptonshire's Jesus Army over historic abuse claims. Thank God that these false leaders are now being exposed. (Ephesians 5:11). I personally hope that these developments signal the end of this wicked cult!

Below is a further report from the Northampton Chronicle and Echo 
By Paul Lynch
Published 18th September 2017:

A top lawyer has called the police investigation into historic abuse at the Jesus Army “half-hearted” amid reports that more than 40 people are now pursuing civil claims against the cult.

In June, the Chron revealed that a number of claims the cult used “rodding” or corporal punishment to discipline children were not pursued by the police because the practice was not illegal in the 1970s and 1980s.





Noel Stanton founded the sect in the 1970s.

Noel Stanton founded the sect in the 1970s.

However, dozens are now in the process of taking up civil claims against the cult and a bulk of the cases are being handled by two solicitors who specialise in child abuse cases.
David Greenwood, partner for the Yorkshire-based law firm Switalkskis, said he was currently working on legal claims for at least 30 people “who grew up there as children under the Jesus Army regime”.
“They are alleging they were subject to a regime that was restrictive and that was emotionally damaging,” he told the Chron.
“Some also allege they were sexually abused. Most allege that they were physically abused. Not necessarily from their parents but from their supposed guardians,” he said.





New Creation Farm was set up as a working farm in the 1970s to provide income to the growing Jesus Fellowship on the outskirts of Bugbrooke.

New Creation Farm was set up as a working farm in the 1970s to provide income to the growing Jesus Fellowship on the outskirts of Bugbrooke.

“They weren’t allowed toys. They weren’t allowed to engage in competitive activities at school, they weren’t allowed to go out to the cinema like young people did.”
Mr Greenwood, a specialist child abuse lawyer, broadly supported the Chron’s calls for a full, independent inquiry into the Jesus Army. But he said that, as part of his work with the clients, he will be calling on Northamptonshire Police to reopen its investigation into historical abuse there.
He said: “I think we need to establish the level of offending that was taking place there.
“Part of my remit will be to persuade Northamptonshire Police to reopen their investigation into this.”
Operation Lifeboat, he went on to say, was “half-hearted” as dozens of rodding claims were not pursued.
“There is more information coming through every week,” he added. “I believe those people in charge at the Jesus Army need to sit down and work out some sort of compensation scheme for the people who suffered emotional, physical and sexual abuse. There also needs to be compensation for the individuals who tried to leave but were unable to get their assets back.”
Many who joined the Jesus Army handed over homes to support the common purse, but several pursuing legal claims feel they were not adequately recompensed on leaving the organisation, Mr Greenwood said.
Another lawyer, Robert Shaw, a partner at Robson Shaw Solicitors, has taken on more than 10 cases against the Jesus Army, mainly from people who grew up in the communal houses of Northamptonshire.
He says his clients are also claiming they were victims of physical abuse, though neither lawyer has officially issued proceedings against the church as of yet.
Mr Shaw’s clients claim they were subject to a “barbaric regime, which involved corporal punishment for tiny matters,” he said. Some of his clients claim the manner of their punishment was “sexualised”.
“The children were often asked to take their underwear off in order to be beaten,” he added.
Northamptonshire Police launched Operation Lifeboat to look into allegations of historical sexual abuse within the Jesus Army back in 2015.
So far there have been three prosecutions, the most recent being that of Karl Skinner, a former member who was found guilty of three counts of indecent assault on a male and was given a suspended sentence.
Northamptonshire Police declined to comment.
"In response to the Chron’s investigation, spokesman for the Jesus Fellowship, Laurence Cooper, said: “On safeguarding, the Jesus Fellowship church, much like the UK as a whole, is in a very different place now to what it was during the last century. Safeguarding is much higher up the agenda for every organisation in the modern day.
"Our leadership teams are now well trained, and well aware of safeguarding issues. We have a central safeguarding team who are employed to keep our safeguarding efforts on track.
"It’s not like the 70s and 80s, when even big organisations like the BBC had very little in place to guard against these issues.
"Physical punishment, such as was commonly used in school even when I was a boy has been outlawed in the UK and is not practised or condoned by people in the Jesus Fellowship.
"The Jesus Fellowship church opposes illegal physical punishment and we’d report abuse we became aware of to the police immediately.
"People in the church these days profoundly regret that some people were hurt emotionally, spiritually and in other ways in the past. We’re sorry – and this has been expressed on many occasions in public.
"We’re sorry that people feel let down by the church. Sorry that they don’t feel they were cared for. We acknowledge that people feel hurt and pain. My personal hope is that they will - eventually - be able to find some release from this.”

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/at-least-40-people-planning-to-sue-northamptonshire-s-jesus-army-over-historic-abuse-claims-1-8156433

{1} http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/special-report-alleged-victim-of-historic-abuse-reveals-traumatic-childhood-growing-up-in-jesus-army-1-8155579

JESUS ARMY: SEXUAL, PHYSICAL, FINANCIAL AND SPIRITUAL ABUSE ALLEGATIONS!

The Northampton Chronicle & Echo
By Paul Lynch 18 September 2017

SPECIAL REPORT: Alleged victim of historic abuse reveals traumatic childhood growing up in Jesus Army

Ex Jesus Army member Philippa Muller believes there must be a public inquiry into allegations of historical abuse at the religious sect.
Ex Jesus Army member Philippa Muller believes there must be a public inquiry into
allegations of historical abuse at the religious sect. 
A former Jesus Army member who claims to have been molested as a child in the 1980s believes a full public inquiry must be held to give voice to damaged ex-members.
Philippa Muller, who has agreed to waive her right to anonymity to tell her story, spent her early life in Woking, Surrey, with her parents and three siblings, but sold up everything they owned to join Noel Stanton’s Jesus Army movement in the 1980s.



Noel Stanton in the 1980s. The founder of the Jesus Army, who died in 2009, is alleged to have abused members sexually and financially.

Noel Stanton in the 1980s. The founder of the Jesus Army, who died in 2009, is alleged to have abused members sexually and financially.

The firebrand preacher formed the evangelist movement in 1969 at Bugbrooke Chapel, before expanding it to a series of communal houses, a farm, and later a network of businesses ranging from a bakery to a solicitors’ firm.
Philippa’s family used to go to a free church in their area and her brother was baptised there. But sometime in the mid-1980s her mother and father befriended a couple who were part of a growing Baptist movement in Northamptonshire. They were Jesus Army members seeking out new recruits for the sect and Philppa’s parents, inspired by the idea of a rural community devoted to Christianity, settled to join them. Her father, who worked for the Ministry of Defence, dropped everything and within months they had moved north to live at Bugbrooke.
The family took up residence in a communal house, Shalom, shared by around 15 other people when Philippa was just five.
Her childhood was “idyllic” in a lot of ways at the time, she said, filled with long walks and picnics, a sense of belonging.



Noel Stanton.

Noel Stanton.

“It was free in many senses,” she said. “I remember being allowed to help in lambing season, we had a big a garden that we enjoyed.
“My parents were really good at maintaining a sense of normality as well.”
But the regime operated by head pastor Stanton was strict – and breaking the rules often led to consequences.
She remembers, as a child, drawing underneath the chairs in Bugbrooke chapel during worship and scribbling crude nude drawings on the paper.
When the doodles were discovered, she was hauled into a quiet room with a fireplace – so a community elder could cast demons from her.
“You couldn’t talk about anything to do with your body, it would be seen as indecent to do so, she said. “All the women wore skirts and you weren’t supposed to show your ears, it was seen as sinful.”
Members were also expected to renounce all material possessions under Stanton’s teachings.
Clothing was communal, birthdays were replaced with ‘honouring days’, households were judged in league table type format with the worst performers being ‘visited’ by a ‘fire’ team who would renew zeal for the cause.
Gradually Philippa remembers separating from the outside world and took on the lingo that had developed in the community.
Outsiders were known as ‘worldlings’, those not towing the line were known as ‘backsliders’.
Soon her older sister and brother were moved into different households as the natural family was seen as secondary to the spiritual family, she said.
Her parents were convinced to sell up their home and plough their wealth into a common fund. Discipline made life tough for children, she said - but even tougher for girls. Then, as she moved into her teenage years, the restrictive regime began to take its toll.
“I remember having to ask permission to revise for my GCSE exams, because of the continuous routine of meetings throughout the week. Education was not encouraged, it was seen as the way to material wealth, which was evil.”
Later she went on to study business at Northampton College while trying to fit her revision exam around a seven-day roster of meetings and activities that included a three-hour Sunday worship held by Stanton.
A recording sent to the Chronicle & Echo from a 1990s ITV broadcast saw Stanton preaching about inherent “sin” in the “genitals” at Cornhill Manor, a regular topic of his firebrand sermons.
She believes the leader - who called on members to take a vow of celibacy and has since been the speculation of sexual abuse claims – saw women as a threat to the Godly path of the males in the community. “You could never talk about anything to do with your body with anyone, it would be seen as indecent to do so”, she said. “Women and girls were there to serve only, serve the elders and the men in the community.
“Women had to wear ankle length skirts for modesty and you weren’t even supposed to show your ears, it was seen as sinful.”
“I grew up assuming there was something wrong with me, I could never attain redemption because I was born of Eve, and I cast sin into the world by making Adam eat the apple from the tree of life.
“Where can you go from such a negative starting point?”
It meant that when two teenage boys molested her at a young age, she never reported it. Philippa felt no one would believe her.
“We didn’t have a voice to question,” she added.
When Philippa was still a teenager, she saw something that would change the course of her life.
She saw a fellow Jesus Army being molested by an elder, who was later jailed for the sexual abuse.
During the trial she was ostracised from the community to the extent she had to sit through a sermon by Stanton in which he talked about ridding the sect of ‘liars’.
She knew the sermon was about her.
The ordeal left her with little choice to leave the Jesus Army aged 18 and without a penny to her name.
Philippa, now 38, says her time in the religious sect has left her scarred.
She said: “We helped the needy - bringing the homeless alcoholics and drug addicts back into our homes, with no regard for the safeguarding of our own.
“I remember lying in bed at night and worrying about the drug addicts who were sharing my dormitory bedroom. I was 10 years old.”
“Bad things were done there in an environment that was meant to be Christian and Godly,” she added.
“But those things were allowed to happen because there was no safeguarding in place.
“We operated outside of society.
“We were drawing in people, then encouraging them to behave in a way that was so ungodly.
“There are a lot of damaged people out there that need to be acknowledged.”
Philippa believes an independent public inquiry is the only recourse for others left scarred from their ordeals.
In 2015 a safeguarding report into Jesus Army by the Churches’ Child Protection Advisory Service (CCPAS) looked only at the sect’s current safeguarding practices and did not consider allegations of past abuse.
But Philippa believes that inquiry must be held by an entirely independent body, not a Christian organisation.
“The abuse wasn’t just sexual, it was physical, it was financial, it was spiritual” she said. “I spent my entire upbringing based on one man’s interpretation of the bible.”

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/special-report-alleged-victim-of-historic-abuse-reveals-traumatic-childhood-growing-up-in-jesus-army-1-8155579

Monday, 18 September 2017

GLOBAL LEGACY ALL NATIONS CHURCH LEICESTER JANUARY 2018!

All Nations Church Frog Island Leicester UK are hosting a Global Legacy Conference on the 5th and 6th of January 2018. It is rather grandly described as: "2018's gathering of leaders from across the UK and Europe". {1} Global Legacy is an offshoot of the infamous Bethel Church Redding which engages in all kinds of vile abominations. (Ezekiel 8:9). Bethel/Jesus Culture and associates such as John Crowder, Heidi Baker, Cindy Jacobs, Todd Bentley etc. are utterly immersed in occult activities and demonic manifestations. Bethel bases its alleged "ministry" on subjective spiritual experiences rather than the teachings of Jesus Christ and his apostles! Christians should shun lying "signs" ..fake gold dust, diamonds, angel feathers, grave sucking, spiritual drunkenness, portals, visualisation, spirit-travel, fire-tunnels, angel-orbs, glory clouds, impartations and so on. ..an evil and adulterous generation seeks a sign. (Matthew 6:4; 12:39). Bill Johnson's wife, grave sucker and occult diviner, Beni, even claims to wake up angels with "prophetic toys". {2} 

Jesus Christ specifically warned about the appearance of "false christs" and "false prophets" in the last days. (Matthew 24:24). In fact the Antichrist himself will eventually appear with spectacular counterfeit signs and wonders: The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders.. (2 Thessalonians 2:9). 


Are Trinity Life Church Leicester about to engage in yet another scandalous departure from the scriptures? In his "vision for 2018", David Hind announced that Trinity Life Church (TLC) are to hold a "Father Heart Conference" in the near future. I do hope that this event is not connected with Paul Manwaring and Global Legacy, but since TLC do not know their right hand from their left, I am not holding my breath! (Jonah 4:11).


TLC's previous attempt at hosting a Father Heart Conference took place in 2011. This event was supported by Holy Trinity Church and Knighton Free Church. That particular conference was led by false teacher/prophet Mark Stibbe, a former associate of the infamous Todd Bentley of fake "Toronto Blessing" renown! Stibbe also promoted the "Third Wave" false teaching at St Andrews Church Chorleywood for a number of years. In 2012 Stibbe gave up his alleged "ministry" due to a "moral failure". {3}

Martin60: "I found Stibbe vastly disappointing BEFORE his fall from grace and that compounded it. I saw him speak in Leicester, where he'd been effusively welcomed by our vicar, where he listed all his major blessings; wife, kids, family, home, career, success (which included describing his jet setting lecture tour of America) and actually said, "If it's on, it's in.". In other words, everything he prayed for, he got.. In a room full of poor, broken people.. Then he threw it all away for another woman.." {4}

Holy Trinity Church Leicester is already fully committed to SOZO, another Bethel abomination. Both Holy Trinity and Leicester City Vineyard Church are also contaminated by the New Wine deception. {5} 

I am requesting prayers from discerning Christians that church leaders will find some integrity and protect their flocks by shunning events connected with the false revival of Global Legacy and the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). (John 10:11-15). Please pray that believers do not get drawn into further counterfeit "Christian" events as they have done in the past.


Below: The leaven spreading throughout Johnson's Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry (BSSM). Grave sucking at Bethel: Necromancy "Christian style". These pictures are more like scenes from some sick horror movie rather than anything remotely connected to Jesus Christ! (Luke 24:5).

Bill Johnson and his deluded followers from Bethel Church, Redding, CA.
Johnson lead a BSSM group to Bradford in England in order to engage in grave sucking
Here they are at the grave of Smith Wigglesworth.


Students from BSSM allegedly grave sucking Welsh Revivalist
Evan Roberts' anointing from his grave at Loughor SW Wales


Bill Johnson's wife Beni (a Senior Pastor at Bethel Church Redding),
grave sucking at CS Lewis' grave in Oxford

Beni Johnson at the gravestone of Charles Finney!

John Crowder

If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. (Deuteronomy 13:1-4).


Below is an excerpt from a recent post I wrote about Paul Manwaring/Global Legacy:

Paul Manwaring is on the senior leadership team at Bethel church, Redding, CA, with specific responsibility for Global Legacy, a ministry of Bethel that promotes "worldwide revival".

"Global Legacy is a relational network that connects, encourages, and equips revival leaders worldwide. We expand God’s kingdom by helping to build relationships between revival leaders, ministries, and organizations around the globe, and to equip them to transform their spheres of influence.." {1}

Global Legacy was spawned out of Bethel Church as a result of a "prophetic word" from their Senior Pastor, the infamous NAR cult leader and alleged "apostle" Bill Johnson. Manwaring, who is British, returned to live in the UK in December 2016 in order to oversee the aims of Global Legacy in Europe. Global Legacy is cross denominational and has no doctrinal statement. Critically, Manwaring teaches that there should be no secular / sacred divide.

Manwaring: “My passion is that the church equips the Saints to do Kingdom. It’s time for reformation in every sphere, to erase the secular/sacred divide and marry the natural with the supernatural. ‘Awakening Europe’ is an incredible new movement.."  {2}
Manwaring refers of course to the false doctrine of Dominion theology aka Dominionism, Kingdom Now, Christian Reconstructionism, Theonomy which is based on a perversion of Genesis 1:28. Dominionists believe that before Christ physically returns to the earth, Christians must implement societal change and “take dominion” of the secular world in order to transform it into the Kingdom of God. Global Legacy is part of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and supports the "vision" to create cultural transformation via the seven mountain mandate: Media, Education, Economy, Government, Religion, Arts, and Family.

Dominion theology is NOT the Gospel of Jesus Christ. 
The mantra of dominionists is based on Matthew 6:10:
Your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

Dominionists blatantly invert the scriptures. The world cannot be redeemed.. quite the reverse in fact. Jesus was very specific in teaching that His kingdom is NOT of this world. (John 18:36 cf. Colossians 3:2; James 4:4; 1 John 2:15-17; John 15:18-21; Hebrews 11:16). The world will be in the grip of terrible rebellion and widespread religious deception when Jesus returns:


Christians are not called to transform the systems of this world from within, but rather to bear witness and to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. (Mark 16:15; Acts 1:8). ..apart from me you can do nothing. (John 15:5). Christians do not belong to the world, they are those who are chosen out of the world. (John 15:19;17:6). The only way dominionists can justify their ungodly agenda is to deny the scriptures in favour of "direct revelation" from God through various false "apostles" and "prophets" whom they claim have superseded Jesus' original apostles. (Acts 2:42). Are these false teachers greater than Jesus Christ? (Luke 4:18).
Bill Johnson's "off the map" approach denies the Reformation principle of sola scriptura and leaves his followers vulnerable to "every wind of doctrine". (Ephesians 4:14). These false apostles and prophets have dispossessed many believers of the precautionary mechanism to test the spirits. (1 John 4:1 cf. 1 Corinthians 12:10; 1 Thessalonians 5:2; 2 Timothy 2:15; Isaiah 9:16).


By their acquiescence and support of such events, local church leaders are exposing their congregations to very serious deception and apostasy. There will undoubtedly be terrible consequences, both for them personally and their congregations:

But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. (2 Peter 2:1).

{1} https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/global-legacy-2018-tickets-37270366670

{2} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q25oPxQ7zH0 
{3} https://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/A-CRITIQUE-OF-MISSION-SHAPED-COMMUNITIES-HOLY-TRINITY-LEICESTER
{4} http://forum.ship-of-fools.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=020075;p=2
{5} https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/new-wine-deception-holy-trinity-church.html

Sunday, 17 September 2017

PRETRIB RAPTURE: A STAGED EVENT! BY DAVE MACPHERSON

     Can pretrib rapturists find support for their view in the stages of a Jewish wedding, as some assert?
     Every encyclopedia I checked (including the Jewish Encyclopedia) states that there are two stages in such a wedding: the "kiddushin" (betrothal) and the "nissuin" (marriage).
     Although some pretrib leaders find proof for their rapture view in Jewish wedding stages, there is widespread disagreement among them over how many stages there are.
     In his book "The End Times Passover"Joe Ortiz refers to John Walvoord's book "The Rapture Question" which accepts R. C. H. Lenski's view that a Hebrew marriage has three stages.
     Charles Monk sees 5 "customs" (stages).
     Arnold Fruchtenbaum has found 6 "steps" (stages) that Thomas Ice has appropriated.
     The ReturnToGod.com site observes 12 "steps" (stages).
     Not to be outdone, Renald Showers actually sees 17 "customs" (stages).
     (Think of all the work to boil down 17 or even 5 stages into a two-stage second coming!)
     An internet blog titled "For the Love of Truth" is representative of not a few that reveal that it's dangerous as well as unscriptural to base a pretrib rapture outlook on Jewish traditions. In an article titled "Jewish Wedding and Rapture" the same blog has some startling information:
     It says: "Jewish Wedding traditions being discussed are the rabbinic teachings found within the Talmud and Kabbalah." (Not only are these sources occultic and anti-Biblical but the Talmud is filled with lies and blasphemy about Jesus that are as irrational as they are totally evil!)
     It reveals that certain pretrib leaders "have taken snippets of the various Jewish wedding traditions" and "rearranged and reinvented the content and events and then made the declaration that the Jewish wedding tradition is really the story of Christ and the rapture...."
     It also states that "the seven blessings [during the ceremony] obviously have nothing to do with Jesus Christ or His return," adding that "Nowhere does the Bible tell us to interpret scripture by looking to man's traditions."
     Incidentally, it's well-known that pretrib rapture defenders claim that certain Bible passages are on "church" ground while other passages are on "Jewish" ground and that we should always maintain the Darby-approved "church/Israel separation" principle. However, with impunity they can jettison that principle in the twinkling of an eye if they need support for their 187-year-old novelty from occultic Jewish traditions or from Lev. 23's Jewish feasts!
     Since far too many pretrib leaders seem to be "stagestruck," and since their love affair with stages has rubbed off on me, I hereby share a personal "revelation" I've had lately that I've titled "The Seven-Stage Coming (I Thess. 4)" which proves that pretribs should be looking for a seven-stage coming and not just a measly two-stage coming:
     1 - The Lord descends.
     2 - The shout.
     3 - The archangel's voice.
     4 - The trumpet of God.
     5 - The dead rise.
     6 - The caught up (rapture).
     7 - The meeting in the air.
     Yes, seven stages. And isn't 7 supposed to be a perfect number?
     Something else. Have you noticed the unnatural language pretribs like to use? If a friend visits me, goes away for a month, and then comes back and visits me again, he never says: "I'm back for the SECOND stage of my one visit." But pretribs use wording like this when they place SEVERAL YEARS between their two stages!
     During their short history pretrib promoters have disagreed on many things in addition to the number of stages in a Jewish wedding. They have also disagreed on which Jewish feast is symbolic of a pretrib rapture, and disagreed on which symbol in the book of Revelation is the best "pretrib" symbol.
     (For 30 years Darby's basis for a pretrib rapture was Rev. 12:5's "man child" that is caught up - a verse that is presently being discussed around the world in connection with a hoped-for rapture this coming Sep. 23rd!)
     For 300 pages of the most accurate documentation anywhere on the long covered up but now revealed history of the pretrib rapture view, I invite you to obtain my book "The Rapture Plot" at Armageddon Books and other online stores. Google "Scholars Weigh My Research" to see how eminent scholars have evaluated my discoveries.
     Finally, it's apparent that pretrib teachers are experts in arithmetic - the MULTIPLYING of stages which has caused a lot of DIVIDING among Christians!

Saturday, 16 September 2017

THE MOODY ERWIN LUTZER BY DAVE MACPHERSON

      Pastor Erwin Lutzer at the famous Moody Church in Chicago is an outstanding preacher. But he can be moody at times - rapture moody.
     Take July 29, 2012 for example. His "Moody Church Hour" sermon that day on "Philadelphia" (one of Revelation's seven churches) included the following:
     "It is His coming, the rapture, that would keep the church from the hour of trial [a.k.a. the great tribulation] that is coming upon the whole earth. And isn't it interesting? He does not say 'I will keep you through the hour of trial but rather I will keep you out of - that's what the text [Rev. 3:10] says - I will keep you out of the hour of trial that is coming upon the whole earth.
     "There is of course a disagreement as to whether or not we will go through the tribulation, or whether or not we will be raptured ahead of time, and we don't know all the details until it happens. But wouldn't it be wonderful if when we are going up in the sky we could look at all of those posttribbers and say with a smile 'I told you it was so'? Wouldn't that be wonderful to be able to do that?"
     The congregation immediately applauded.
     Note that Lutzer twice used the word "wonderful" when asking his audience how wonderful it would be to use spiteful pride against the only "rapture" view found in all theology books and organized churches before the year 1830: the posttribulation view!
     On the "Moody Church Hour" web site the same day (July 29) Lutzer wrote that "great benefit was derived from John Stott's book WHAT CHRIST THINKS OF THE CHURCH when these messages [on Revelation's seven churches] were prepared."
     Incredibly, the Stott that Lutzer leaned on disagrees completely with Lutzer. The same Stott book, p. 104, says this: "He would not spare them from the suffering [Rev. 3:10]; but He would uphold them in it."
     It would be wonderful if Erwin Lutzer would visit Google and type in "Famous Rapture Watchers" and "Famous Rapture Watchers (Addendum)." Not only would he spot the very same Stott quote, but in the same summaries he would also discover that all of the greatest Greek New Testament scholars of all time have uniformly viewed Rev. 3:10 (the most important "proof text" for pretribbers) as teaching "preservation through" and not "escaping beforehand"! ("Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty" is another informative Google article.)
     One wonders what will have to happen to change the Moody pastor's mood.

Friday, 15 September 2017

GREATEST HEBREW-CHRISTIAN SCHOLARS NOT PRETRIB! BY DAVE MACPHERSON

     Jews as well as Christians can cover up facts about the money-making pretrib rapture.
     I have in mind Dr. Michael Rydelnik, a widely heard voice on the Moody Radio Network who calls himself either a Hebrew-Christian or a Jewish-Christian - take your choice.
     Rydelnik just returned from another trip to Israel and couldn't wait to use his melodious radio voice to keep his listeners in their expectant state of rapturous stupor.
     In order to help shore up the worldwide collapsing of the pillar of sand known as pretrib he started off by daring to say that when the tribulation starts, the "day of the Lord" will also be happening!
     Rydelnik thus covered up the fact that neither J. N. Darby nor C. I. Scofield (D. L. Moody's colleague!) dared to stretch forward the posttrib "day of the Lord" and hook it up with their previously-stretched-forward pretrib rapture - evidence that Christian Zionists like Rydelnik can sharply disagree with earlier Zionists!
     Scofield, for example, states in his Rev. 19 notes that the same "day" is preceded by the "cosmical disturbances (Joel 2.1-12; Mt. 24.29; Acts 2.19, 20; Rev. 6.12-17)." (In Rydelnik's case, the future posttrib sun/moon darkening has been preceded by his own scholarship darkening.)
     There are historical persons that Rydelnik and other modern pretrib rapture Zionists love to cover up: eminent Hebrew-Christian scholars of the past, all of whom were NOT pretrib!
     While names like Biesenthal, Caspari, Delitzsch, Neander, Rabinowitz, and Schereschewsky are practically unknown by most Christians, the names of Baron, Edersheim, and Saphir are much more recognizable.
     David Baron ("The Visions and Prophecies of Zechariah," p. 323) wrote that Paul "spoke of 'the blessed hope and the appearing of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ' (Tit. ii.13), for then the hope as regards the church, and Israel, and the world, will be fully realised."
     Alfred Edersheim, who expected only one future coming of Christ for judgment, stated in "The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah," Vol. II, pp. 451-2: "We shall best succeed, not by going out of the world, but by being watchful in it."
     Adolph Saphir ("The Epistle to the Hebrews," pp. 95-6) spoke of "the advent of the Messiah, which is yet in the future, to which both the believing synagogue and the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ are looking, when He is to be manifested in great power, and to be acknowledged as King of the whole earth."
     Nowadays the Mideast is constantly in the news. Some feel that Israel can do no wrong while others are convinced that Israel can do nothing right. There are pretrib teachers who even believe that Israel has a special "covenant" with God apart from the Gospel.
     And Christians are learning at the same time that a person can disagree with Mideast policies without being viewed as anti-Semitic or hateful.
     Finally, Google "Pretrib Rapture: A Staged Event," "Pretrib Rapture Stealth" and "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty."

Sunday, 10 September 2017

"ISRAEL ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD" SAYS JACOB PRASCH OF MORIEL MINISTRIES!

I will say to the north, Give up, and to the south, Do not withhold; bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the end of the earth.. (Isaiah 43:6).

2017 09 03 Jacob Prasch "The Broken Cistern"
https://livestream.com/ColumbusBibleProphecyConf/events/3775374/videos/162253277

Jacob Prasch: "Most Christians don't get this: The Jews are the people of God, believers are the children of God. The Jews can be a child, but most of them are not, they are the people of God." 

When bible teachers make statements like: "You do not understand", without actually teaching any specifics, then raise a red flag!

I am not quite sure why Prasch makes this particular statement, other than the fact that it may diminish his hearers understanding of God's relationship to Israel at the present time. It is very remiss that he should make throw away comments about God's relationship to Israel without explanation. It is no light matter to superimpose ones own views onto the scriptures, but he does keep doing it! A little leaven leavens the whole lump. (Matthew 13:33; 1 Corinthians 5:6; Galatians 5:9).

The sonship of Israel permeates the bible, and yet Prasch dares to redefine it!
Israel are referred to as God's sons/children in the following Old Testament verses:
Exodus 4:22; Deuteronomy 14:1; Hosea 11:1; 31:20; Psalm 82:6; Psalm 73:15.
Thus says the LORD, Israel is my firstborn son. (Exodus 4:22 cf. Romans 9:4).
Jesus Christ's sojourn in Egypt is given as a parallel and ultimate fulfilment of the Exodus led by Moses: Out of Israel I called my Son. (Matthew 2:15; Hosea 11:1).
Isaiah 43:6 in particular defines the Jews returning to the land of Israel as "sons and daughters". There are various reasons why this verse refers to the eschatological recovery of the Jewish people a second time. (Isaiah 11:11-12). The first "regathering" of the Jews occurred when they returned from the Babylonian and Assyrian exile. (Isaiah 10:20-27; 44:26-45:8). {1}
Note: "rebellious/faithless children" (Isaiah 30:1,9; 57:4; Jeremiah 3:14-22).

God is specifically called the Father of the nation of Israel in Deuteronomy 32:6; Isaiah 63:16, 64:8; Jeremiah 3:4,19, 31:9; Malachi 1:6, 2:10.
Do you thus repay the LORD, you foolish and senseless people? Is not he your father, who created you, who made you and established you? (Deuteronomy 32:6). The King James version has: ..is not he thy father that hath bought thee? The Hebrew verb is qanah  (kaw-naw') = to erect, i.e. create; by extension, to procure, especially by purchase (causatively, sell); by implication to own. {2}
Elliott's Commentary: "The first line is an exclamatory question. A question and an exclamation have the same name in the Rabbinical writings. 'Hath gotten' in the third line is the same expression which Eve used (in Genesis 4:1) at the birth of Cain, and occurs also in that magnificent saying in the history of Wisdom, Proverbs 8:22, “'The Lord begat me (as) the beginning of his way.'” {3}

Israel are also referred to historically as  the sons/children of Abraham, the children of Israel, the Daughter Zion, God’s chosen people..

The Pharisees who were hostile to Jesus took their position as God's children as read : We have one Father—even God. (John 8:41). Jesus did not correct them in terms of their concept of "sonship", but rather, He questioned their true loyalties: “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. (John 8:42). Consequently, they were rejected as "children of God," and identified by Jesus as: "children of your father the devil". (John 8:44). For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel.. (Romans 9:6).

Was the prodigal son any less a son even though he was as good as "dead" so to speak? ..for this son of mine was dead and has come to life again; he was lost and has been found. (Luke 15:11-24). I would not presume to apply the parable of the prodigal son only to the Jews, but there is much in it that equates with the present position of the Jewish remnant yet to be saved. For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? (Romans 11:15).

Israel's relationship with God has been temporarily suspended, although from God's eternal standpoint, it seems evident that He does regard them as "sons".  Even in wordly terms, an estranged relation is still a relation.. for instance, an estranged wife is still a "wife". Israel's temporary estrangement is a controversial subject for those Zionists who blindly accept everything about the modern state of Israel, especially those who insist that Jews do not need the gospel. At its core, this lie of the devil, has, I believe, sprung from the Vatican's distortion of Romans 11:28-29: "In concrete terms this means that the Catholic Church neither conducts nor supports any specific institutional mission work directed towards Jews." {4}

The Jewish people, for the most part, are presently intensely hostile to their true Messiah and are being gathered in unbelief; they have "no breath in them". (Ezekiel 37:7-8). I will take you from the nations and gather you from all the countries and bring you into your own land. (THEN) I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean from all your uncleanness, and from all your idols I will cleanse you. And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. (Ezekiel 36:24-26). Verse 25: The KJV and the NAS begins "Then". 

Under the Law of Return, Jews have the right to make Aliyah; that is, they have the right to live in Israel and to gain Israeli citizenship no matter what political, religious or personal views they may hold. However an exclusion applies! Messianic Jews are denied Israeli citizenship if they answer in the affirmative to the question: “Have you ever been a Messianic Jew or have you ever believed in Yeshua as Messiah?” Furthermore, it is possible for a Gentile to convert to Judaism, but such a conversion absolutely necessitates the awful sin of denying Jesus Christ. Ivanka Trump, a former Presbyterian, underwent the process converting to Orthodox Judaism in 2009, presumably as a condition of her marriage to Jewish husband Jared Kushner. (Matthew 10:33). "She describes her conversion as an 'amazing and beautiful journey which her father supported 'from day one', adding that he has "tremendous respect" for the Jewish religion." {5} For those who class Donald Trump as a Christian, it is simply unspeakable that a true Christian would support their own child in denying Jesus Christ!

The establishment of the State of Israel on May 14th 1948 was a major prophetic event. Scripturally there is a future prophetic purpose for Israel, and they are loved on account of the patriarchs: As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. (Romans 11:28-29 cf. Romans 9:5). 

Gill's Exposition: "..but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes; as many of them as belong to the election of grace, are beloved of God; and will appear to be so, when they are called by grace, as they will be, for the confirming of the promises concerning their future restoration made unto their fathers; not one of which shall ever fall to the ground, or they be deprived of any gifts and blessings of grace, which God has purposed for them, or promised to them.." {6}

But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree, do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree. (Romans 11:17-24).

I ask, then, has God rejected (his) people (λαὸν)? By no means! For I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, a member of the tribe of Benjamin. has not rejected (his) people whom he foreknew.(Romans 11:1-2).

A number of scriptures refer to the Jews temporary estrangement in terms of future of reconciliation.. They will be "my people":

But I will save them from all the backslidings in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them; and they shall be my people, and I will be their God... reiterated in v 27.  (Ezekiel 11:20, 27).
And I will be their God, and they will be My people. (Hebrews 8:10).
I will give them a heart to know that I am the LORD, and they shall be my people and I will be their God, for they shall return to me with their whole heart. (Jeremiah 24:7).

In the New Testament, believers are identified in identical terms as the Jews i.e. as both "children/sons" and "the people of God".

Once you were not a people, but now you are God’s people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy. (1 Peter 2:10).

“Those who were not my people I will call ‘my people,’ and her who was not beloved I will call ‘beloved.’” (Romans 9:25).

"The 'olive-tree, wild by nature' ( Romans 11:24 ), is the shoot or cutting of the good olive-tree which, left ungrafted, grows up to be a 'wild olive.' In Romans 11:17 Paul refers to the practice of grafting shoots of the wild olive into a 'good"'olive which has become unfruitful. By such a process the sap of the good olive, by pervading the branch which is 'graffed in,' makes it a good branch, bearing good olives. Thus the Gentiles, being a 'wild olive,' but now 'graffed in,' yield fruit, but only through the sap of the tree into which they have been grafted. This is a process 'contrary to nature' ( 11:24 ). {7}

As demonstrated above, both the Old and New Testament applies the term "children of God", "sons of God" and "people of God", to both Jews and Christians. Arguments, or in this case "opinions" from the silence of the scriptures are usually tenuous. God has not changed his mind about Israel's sonship: For I, the LORD, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed. (Malachi 3:6). ..with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change. (James 1:17 cf. Romans 11:29). Perhaps Jacob Prasch would explain what he means exactly by "Jews are the people of God, believers are the children of God", so that we can examine the scriptures to see if these things are so? (Acts 17:11).

Many concerns about Prasch's Intra-Seal rapture theory also remain outstanding. Perhaps he would also address the various questions I have raised on this subject? {8} The question of his endorsement of ecumenical "prophets" David Noakes and Clifford Hill has never been addressed either! {9}.

I find a very weak mind-set amongst those who are resolved to "follow" Jacob Prasch irrespective of the scriptures. It reminds me of the unquestioning but misplaced trust of those unfortunate Christians who follow the more obvious false teachers. There are some Christians who continue to support Prasch despite serious concerns about his extra-biblical teachings. They are unwilling to test the spirits or to question anything he teaches. (1 John 4:1 cf. 2 Corinthians 11:4). Exactly the same rule applies to Jacob Prasch as to any other teacher. If what he says does not line up with the scriptures, then he is a false teacher.. unless of course he can prove otherwise?

But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. (2 Corinthians 11:3 cf. Genesis 3:1).



Is the Star of David a legitimate symbol for Israel?
https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/is-star-of-david-legitimate-symbol-for.html

{1} http://www.evidenceunseen.com/articles/prophecy/the-regathering-of-israel/
{2} http://biblehub.com/lexicon/deuteronomy/32-6.htm
{3} http://biblehub.com/commentaries/deuteronomy/32-6.htm
{4} http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/relations-jews-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_20151210_ebraismo-nostra-aetate_en.html
{5} https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanka_Trump
{6} http://biblehub.com/commentaries/gill/romans/11.htm
{7} http://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/olive-tree/
{8} https://www.amazon.co.uk/INTRA-SEAL-RAPTURE-DECEPTION-EXPOSED-devised-ebook/dp/B06X6N2JJT/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504953806&sr=8-1&keywords=intra-seal

{9} https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/