Watch out for the false prophets who bring the gospel into disrepute with their concocted calculations: David Meade, Scott Clarke, Mark Biltz, Michael Rood.
(2 Peter 2:2; Romans 16:17).
Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, who formed you from the womb: “I am the Lord, who made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself, who frustrates the signs of liars and makes fools of diviners.. (Isaiah 44:24-25).
(2 Peter 2:2; Romans 16:17).
Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, who formed you from the womb: “I am the Lord, who made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself, who frustrates the signs of liars and makes fools of diviners.. (Isaiah 44:24-25).
You are wearied with your many counsels; let them stand forth and save you, those who divide the heavens, who gaze at the stars, who at the new moons make known what shall come upon you. Behold, they are like stubble; the fire consumes them; they cannot deliver themselves from the power of the flame. (Isaiah 47:13-14).
David Meade: "Christian numerologist", and self-described “specialist in research and investigations”, originially claimed that the rogue planet Nibiru aka Planet X would collide with the earth on September 23rd and that this event would coincide with the rapture. Meade and other false teachers refer to the "Revelation 12 sign", due to the astronomical alignment involving the constellations Virgo and Leo, the sun, moon, and planets Mercury, Mars, Venus, and Jupiter occurring in September 2017. {1}
And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth. And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads seven diadems. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it. She gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which she is to be nourished for 1,260 days. (Revelation 12:1-6).
Meade tied his dubious prediction to the following verses in Luke's gospel:
David Meade: "Christian numerologist", and self-described “specialist in research and investigations”, originially claimed that the rogue planet Nibiru aka Planet X would collide with the earth on September 23rd and that this event would coincide with the rapture. Meade and other false teachers refer to the "Revelation 12 sign", due to the astronomical alignment involving the constellations Virgo and Leo, the sun, moon, and planets Mercury, Mars, Venus, and Jupiter occurring in September 2017. {1}
And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth. And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads seven diadems. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it. She gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which she is to be nourished for 1,260 days. (Revelation 12:1-6).
Meade tied his dubious prediction to the following verses in Luke's gospel:
And there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth distress of nations in perplexity because of the roaring of the sea and the waves, people fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world. For the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (Luke 21:25-26).
The impossibility of Meade's prediction is easily demonstrated. The signs recorded in Luke 21:25-26 immediately precede the second coming (Parousia) of Jesus Christ following the great tribulation and the reign of the Antichrist. The "sign", if we want to call it that, is when the man of lawlessness aka the Antichrist, is revealed i.e. when he takes his seat in the temple of God and proclaims himself to be God. The rapture will not precede this event! (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4).
Astrology is the occultic interpretation of the movements and relative positions of celestial objects, allegedly to gain information about human affairs and terrestrial events. If we recognise the validity of the book of 1 Enoch, the teaching of “astrology” and “the constellations” originated with the fallen angels.
1 Enoch 8:1-4:
“And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all 2 colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, ‘Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . .”
The scriptures trace astrology and other forbidden practices back to ancient Babylon. Various practitioners: ..astrologers, magicians, spiritists, enchanters, stargazers, sorcerers, fortune tellers and diviners are all part of what the bible describes as abomination / detestable (2 Kings 21:2). ..for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD (Deuteronomy 18:12). Astrologers are incapable of interpreting anything. (Daniel 4:7,18).
- Leviticus 19:26, 31; Leviticus 20:6, 27
- Deuteronomy 18:9-14
- 2 Kings 21:6
- Isaiah 8:19; Isaiah 47:13-14
- Daniel 2:27; Daniel 4:7, 19
In Matthew, the first words Jesus spoke when asked about signs of the end of the age was a warning about deception. (repeated in verse 11):
As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are but the beginning of the birth pains. “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. (Matthew 24:3-14).
The sun, moon and stars are related to time i.e. they separate day and night and they mark various seasons: And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years.. (Genesis 1:14). The sun, moon and stars were given for light v15, and to introduce chronology to creation.
He made the moon to mark the seasons; the sun knows its time for setting.
You make darkness, and it is night, when all the beasts of the forest creep about.
The young lions roar for their prey, seeking their food from God.
When the sun rises, they steal away and lie down in their dens.
Man goes out to his work and to his labor until the evening. (Psalm 104:19-23).
The phrase for signs and seasons has been interpreted by some to mean astrological signs in the constellation of the Zodiac (Mazarroth), to indicate human destiny. However, there is no evidence whatsoever in the scriptures that the heavenly bodies were intended as astrological signs to predict human destiny.
The following passage is prophetic and indicates astronomical events that will occur after the great tribulation at the end of the age (Isaiah 13:9-10; Joel 3:15; Matthew 24:29-31; Luke 21:25-26). When these things do happen, no one will be in any doubt that the world as we know it is coming to an end, these "signs" will be terrifying and unmistakable!
He made the moon to mark the seasons; the sun knows its time for setting.
You make darkness, and it is night, when all the beasts of the forest creep about.
The young lions roar for their prey, seeking their food from God.
When the sun rises, they steal away and lie down in their dens.
Man goes out to his work and to his labor until the evening. (Psalm 104:19-23).
The phrase for signs and seasons has been interpreted by some to mean astrological signs in the constellation of the Zodiac (Mazarroth), to indicate human destiny. However, there is no evidence whatsoever in the scriptures that the heavenly bodies were intended as astrological signs to predict human destiny.
The following passage is prophetic and indicates astronomical events that will occur after the great tribulation at the end of the age (Isaiah 13:9-10; Joel 3:15; Matthew 24:29-31; Luke 21:25-26). When these things do happen, no one will be in any doubt that the world as we know it is coming to an end, these "signs" will be terrifying and unmistakable!
When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood, and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale. The sky vanished like a scroll that is being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. Then the kings of the earth and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful, and everyone, slave and free, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains, calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?”
(Revelation 6:12-17).
A common excuse when date setting prophecies do not come about is to say that the prediction was miscalculated. True to form, both Meade and Clarke went on to alter their predictions. Clarke changed his date to September 24th! Meade: “The world is not ending, but the world as we know it is ending... A major part of the world will not be the same the beginning of October.” {2}
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep. (2 Peter 2:1-3).
Scott Pruitt (NOPRETRIB) has demonstrated the logical inconsistency of pretribulationists who break their own rules of imminence when date setting! "If a person were to correctly ascertain a future date for the rapture, then from the time the prediction is made until the event itself occurs, imminence no longer applies." {3}
Our wisdom comes from God alone and the scriptures. (James 1:5; Psalm 119:105).
Avoid these men and leave them to their delusions!
"..Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14).
{1} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoNp8dkyYWU
{2} http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/09/22/doomsday-is-not-on-saturday-after-all-writer-says-after-predicting-end-world.html
{3} https://nopretrib.com/dont-expect-the-rapture-on-september-23-2017/comment-page-1/#comment-3438
This 23rd September debacle is yet another errant prediction to prove pre-tribulationism is false! how many more do we need?
ReplyDeleteLeft to God's word ALONE we could only ever know the earth to be flat-it is a direct antithesis of the heaven. Read Genesis 1.1; "God created the heaven and the earth" (equal and opposite) the earth is as wide and as long as the heaven", Certainly there is a "third heaven" This is above the FIRMament! The abode of God! No "rogue 'planet'" could ever threaten God's earth, certainly not before the great tribulation: There WILL be stars falling (not planets-for they are but stars), and they will fall "AFTER the tribulation of those days" Matthew 24.29! False pre-trib teachers are certainly a very nervy bunch: at this very moment we see the "whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain" Romans 8.22, our own personal aches and pains are but a microcosm of the aches and pains of the earth-that is earthquakes, volcanoes, hurricanes etc.
Some may ask what the flat-earth has to do with any of this, well for ONE thing it COMPLETELY and UTTERLY destroys the concept of extra-terrestrial life, aliens do NOT exist. I believe that the source of this Niburu hoax was an American woman by the name of Nancy Lieder who had contact with 'aliens', this says it all, really!
Believers would NEVER be led astray by these false teachers that you have named if they were truly anchored in God's word. Until I came to believe in the flat-earth, I had visions of the earth spinning around at a 1000 mph, orbiting a non-existent sun! (for the sun and the moon were created four days after the earth!)
As you say "Our wisdom comes from God alone..." If only we would truly believe this?
God bless.
You make some very interesting points Colin. The flat earth view certainly gives food for thought.. We only really have NASA (aka Never A Straight Answer), and other Luciferians to rely on for our information about the universe.
ReplyDeleteI am still giving a lot of thought to the subject of Revelation 12 and the two signs. I thought that the great sign, the woman giving birth (Israel), was the star of Bethlehem, but I may be wrong? That particular "sign" is not easily explained even now.. some say it was a comet others various planets in alignment etc.
Another thing I am curious about: Why are the Vatican looking out into space with their "Lucifer" telescope? What are they looking for?
There is a lot going on that we are not being told I think.
God bless.
Treena I was recently in Idaho USA to witness the total eclipse of the sun. An amazing spectacle that God confirms the heavens declare God's glory. Please no more utter nonsense and stupidity about the earth being flat. We want people to give serious consideration to the Gospel message not helped if we also say the earth is flat !!!
ReplyDeleteI do take your point Michael.. Even if true, a flat earth would be a difficult concept to accept for many. I certainly do not want to be a stumbling block to those who would respond to the message of the Gospel - that is the priority. BTW there are a growing number of non Christians who promote the flat earth view. However, in general, this view is seen as "wacko" in our society. I actually say very little on the subject myself, but I would not want to gag the views of Colin or anyone else who wishes to comment.
ReplyDeleteGod bless.
My reply to Michael is, I agree "The heavens declare the glory of God"!
ReplyDeleteI believe the heliocentric deception to be far bigger than the false theory of evolution, for it took men's eyes right off God's word. The oft repeated mantra is "science has proved the Bible to be wrong", I don't believe the theory of evolution could have happened without the heliocentric theory.
I have been called a "flat earth retard" by some, I never reply in kind. Thanks, Treena for reminding your readers it is not just "wacko" Christians like me who believe the earth to be flat but "a growing number of non-Christians". They need the "Gospel message" as well! They might wonder why Christians don't take their Bibles seriously? They are not stupid-they know the Bible doesn't teach a spinning globe! Although it could be said that the earth is getting to be an increasingly dizzier place these days!!
I believe, that a man can be saved, believing in, evolution, ball-earth, pre-trib, post mill, and much else! but ONLY, ONLY, ONLY, if he truly believes in THE Atonement! As I am a believer in salvation/justification by Faith Alone, through God's free sovereign electing grace.
God bless.