BLESS GOD SUMMIT> RUSLAN / MIKE WINGER / MICHAEL GRANT

This is the second year of the three-day Bless God Summit organised by Ruslan KD hosted at the luxurious Seabird Resort and Oceanside Amphitheatre in California. According to the publicity, the summit aims to "encourage, empower and inspire attendees to live a life that blesses God".1 However, the summit has drawn controversy due to VIP tickets that include an additional $450 for a meet-and-greet with the speakers. The summit is ecumenical and includes Roman Catholic, Mormon and atheist speakers. Michael Grant has quite rightly spoken out in protest and has been rebuffed by Ruslan, Mike Winger and Mellissa Dougherty.

This summit should revulse genuine believers on a number of levels. The summit marginalises and dishonours the poor; its price tag alone ensures that anyone without substantial means is effectively excluded. Christ’s care for the poor is consistent, regardless of who attempts to corrupt it with status markers or commercial values. The choice of a luxury resort raises further questions about whether the event honours God or simply mirrors the culture it claims to critique. It gets worse. VIP access and paid meet‑and‑greets introduce distinctions scripture explicitly rejects and violates the second commandment to love your neighbour as yourself. Matthew 22:39 and James 2 both condemn partiality. The elevation of “celebrity” speakers and the monetisation of proximity to them should trouble any believer committed to the teachings of Christ. 

My brothers, show no partiality as you hold the faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory. For if  a man wearing a gold ring and fine clothing comes into your assembly, and a poor man in shabby clothing also comes in, and if you pay attention to the one who wears the fine clothing and say, “You sit here in a good place,”while you say to the poor man, “You stand over there,” or, “Sit down at my feet,” have you not then made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts? Listen, my beloved brothers, has not God chosen those who are poor in the world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom, which he has promised to those who love him? But you have dishonored the poor man. Are not the rich the ones who oppress you, and the ones who drag you into court? Are they not the ones who blaspheme the honorable name by which you were called? If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture,“You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. (James 2:1-9).

Ruslan's obsession with money reveals where his treasure really is. (Matthew 6:21,24; Proverbs 23:4-5; 1 John 2:15-17).

"How do I monetise these people?"
"How do I build a business?"
"What is my bank account going to look like in the next two to three years?"

"I have to make more than six figures.. I need seven figures."

"You will grow your audience, and then

 you've got to find a unique way to monetise them."

"I am not doing anything for less than $500 an hour."2

"I would love to be in a position someday where I have F.U. money."3 

Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life? And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin, yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble. (Matthew 6:25-33).

Although Ruslan disputes Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox structures and practices, he still treats both traditions as doctrinally aligned with the gospel and draws no substantive line between their teaching and what he considers biblical truth. He refers to "Our respective streams of Christianity.. I love my Eastern Orthodox and Catholic brothers and sisters.. We (Protestants) believe that you have a valid church and a valid communion."4 

The heart of the ecumenical heresy is salvific. Bible believers who trust that we are saved by grace through faith alone are at complete odds with Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy. The Roman Catholic/Eastern Orthodox premise is that we are saved by faith plus works. Although they share our vocabulary, they load those terms with different theological content. Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy diverge from one another in various areas, yet they stand together in treating the sacraments as efficacious channels of grace and as necessary components of salvation. This is another gospel and is anathema biblically. (Galatians 1:8-9).

The Roman Catholic Church teaches that three of its seven sacraments are directly “redemptive” in the strict sense of imparting saving grace for the forgiveness of sins. These are sometimes referred to as sacraments of initiation or sacraments of healing, depending on their function. The core contention of the RCC is that Baptism, the Eucharist, and Penance (Reconciliation) are the sacraments explicitly tied to redemption—meaning they apply Christ’s saving work to the believer in a direct way. This sits within the broader RC understanding of the seven sacraments as “efficacious signs of grace” instituted by Christ. 

The motto of the Reformation is encapsulated in the five solas: "Sola Fide" (faith alone), "Sola Gratia" (grace alone), "Solus Christus" (Christ alone), "Sola Scriptura" (Scripture alone), and "Soli Deo Gloria" (glory to God alone). These principles emphasise that salvation is achieved through faith in Christ alone, through grace alone, according to Scripture alone, and for the glory of God alone. When sacraments are added to the gospel, then the lethal error of works salvation is introduced. 

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. (Ephesians 2: 8-9).
For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. (1 Corinthians 3:11).

Speakers at the summit include Mike Winger, Gavin Ortlund, Sean McDowell, Wes Huff, Michael Knowles, Lila Rose (Roman Catholic) and many others.

Mike Winger concerns me greatly. Despite his exposure of several false teachers within the NAR and "cover-up culture", inexplicably, he apparently fails to discern the threat of ecumenism or the blatant worldly values of this summit. His support of Ruslan, TPUSA, and his premise that false prophets can be restored to ministry are all alien to my understanding of the scriptures.* 

Gavin Ortlund's stance on Roman Catholicism and the gospel aligns with Ruslan's view. He acknowledges that Roman Catholics are Christians and affirms their place within the Christian faith. As such, he is another dangerous teacher to mark and avoid. (Romans 16:17-18).  

I don’t agree with Michael Grant on everything, but in this instance, I fully support his protest and his exposure of Ruslan and the summit. The sobering reality is that while Ruslan and his associates are raking in money and engaging in ecumenical theatrics at a swanky resort, they will betray the gospel of Jesus Christ! 

1. Bless God Summit | Empower Your Faith - Join Today
2. (355) Ruslan Is ALL About The MONEY - YouTube
3. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tvwLtZrDIh4?feature=share
4. The Real Reason I Won't Convert to Orthodox or Catholic Christianity

* WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: Search results for mike winger

Resources..

Are Roman Catholics Christian?

What do Roman Catholics Get Wrong?
RC Faith - Final Editing - 8.5x11
Roman Catholic Tradition - Claims and Contradictions - 8.5 x 11

ONE CHURCH LEICESTER IS INTEGRAL TO THE BETHEL NAR DECEPTION

JESUS SAID - Won't He Go After The One // One Church Podcast, 3rd February 2026 | Podcasts

Following Mike Winger’s exposés of Shawn Bolz, Todd White, and Benny Hinn, the wider pattern of unreliable NAR‑aligned prophetic ministries has drawn massive attention. The resulting fallout has prompted a number of believers to distance themselves from charismatic churches, citing disillusionment with dishonest practices, unbiblical standards and false teaching. Churches shaped by unsound teaching and dishonest practices inevitably generate damage to the body of Christ.

I have written several posts warning about One Church in Leicester (formerly Trinity Life Church), going back to 2007 when David Hind's controversial appointment generated huge problems within the congregation. One Church is part of the charismatic Assemblies of God denomination, whose historical record proves difficult to defend when subjected to serious scrutiny.*

Susan Hind's "sermon" begins with a lie: "I am a pastor". There is no such position as a female pastor biblically. If a church has a female pastor, it is completely outside the will of God.  

Susan Hind continues with a story by CS Lewis. Lewis held several convictions that sit well outside biblical orthodoxy, earning him the reputation as a foundational voice of ecumenism. For instance, his Narnia narrative portrays salvation as accessible to those in other religions who remain unaware of Christ. Lewis dismissed "Penal Substitutionary Atonement" and embraced a "Christus Victor" reading that removes divine wrath from the cross entirely. These are substantial doctrinal departures.*

The Hinds have a subtle way of making believers feel perpetually deficient. There’s always another "breakthrough", another layer to “go deeper”. In reality, they replace the role of the Holy Spirit by creating functional dependency, implying that spiritual growth requires their personal intervention. While Christians should desire a deeper walk with God, this pattern is dangerous, particularly when it relies on subjective experience above scripture. The Hinds polished façade of spiritual maturity is only a mask, and their “prayers” are the last thing true believers should seek. A sincere pursuit of God doesn’t require chasing novelty; God leads His people into truth without the manufactured intensity others try to impose. (John 16:13). Scripture calls believers to pray for one another as a mutual practice, not a one‑way channel reserved for so‑called leaders (James 5:16).

Characteristics of NAR churches

Bethel Music: Mind-numbing, unbiblical mantras. Bethel Music serves as a Trojan horse for the NAR, introducing hazardous and unbiblical teachings into churches. Bethel’s own leaders acknowledge that their music is designed to bypass critical thought, creating openness to ideas people would otherwise reject if presented through direct teaching. They openly describe their songs as a strategic vehicle for spreading Bethel Church’s theology and practices into congregations around the world. For many, the music becomes the entry point into the wider New Apostolic Reformation—drawing them into events, conferences, and ultimately the movement’s doctrinal framework. This pathway often leaves individuals and families grappling with deep spiritual confusion and long‑term harm.

False prophecy: David Hind's failed "imminent revival" prophecy on the 1st of May 2022 has failed to come to pass. This is clear evidence that he is a false prophet.

David Hind (1st May 2022): "This is a fulfillment season, an outbreak season." 

(Deuteronomy 18:32; Ezekiel 13:13; Jeremiah 23:16; 2 Peter 2:1-3).

Revival: The revival mantra of false prophets collapses under biblical scrutiny. The New Testament prophesies rampant spiritual deception, apostasy, false prophets, lying signs and wonders, birth pains, and ultimately worldwide spiritual deception under the Antichrist. (Revelation 13:14). We should reject those who consistently prophesy "revival" or "awakening". False prophets tickle itching ears and tell people what they want to hear, not what they need to hear. (2 Timothy 4:3).

Platforming false prophets: Over the years the Hinds have platformed a number of false prophets, including Benny Hinn and Mark Stibbe. The latest example is false prophet Simon Braker.

Constant Touting for money: False leaders' constant appeals for money for large building projects are often couched in terms of their "vision". Wolves who constantly tout for money will suck believers dry financially and spiritually, given the chance.

Inflated Titles: David Hind’s self‑designation as an “apostolic leader of leaders”, and Susan Hind’s assumption of the title “pastor” and her claim to be “prophetic” represent claims to authority that lack substantive biblical grounding. Their presumption sits uneasily alongside the cautions in Galatians 6:3, Philippians 2:3, 1 Corinthians 8:2, Proverbs 26:12, and 1 Corinthians 13:4 regarding self‑importance and inflated self‑assessment.

Boasting: The Hinds incessant emphasis on their own accomplishments—presented as evidence of divine activity—functions as a self‑promotional pattern rather than as a substantive ministry. Their reliance on these formulas displaces any careful or responsible exposition of scripture.

Eisegesis: The Hinds appalling record of taking verses out of context and their poor exegesis is unacceptable. Men aspiring to leadership positions within the church are unqualified if they lack a sound understanding of the scriptures. (Titus 1:9, 2:1; 1 Timothy 4:16; 2 Timothy 3:16-17). 

Lack of accountability: The Hinds leadership structure is sustained through nepotism and a close circle of associates, creating conditions that largely preclude meaningful accountability. This means that genuine complaints and grievances are likely to be blocked. Grievances at Bethel Church Redding were routinely dismissed under a distorted notion of “honour culture", in which leaders protected one another and left complainants without meaningful recourse. Reports indicate multiple individuals raised serious concerns at Bethel, and the documented cases fall far short of the large-scale claims often circulated.  

Ecumenism: False unity at the expense of sound doctrine. There is solid evidence that David Hind is ecumenical.

One Church ticks all the boxes for the NAR deception. One of their eight trustees is Philip Anthony John, who is also a trustee of NAR false Prophet Simon Baker's Legacy International Ministries.1  Braker is a close associate of false prophet Emma Stark, leader of Global Prophetic Alliance. This is a direct confirmation of One Church's close association and involvement with the NAR cult and is a huge red flag.  

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Matthew Corbitt: "The Assemblies of God’s structural flaws have fueled decades of instability, moral failure, and shallow discipleship. Rooted in revivalistic traditions, the movement often prioritizes emotional highs over lasting biblical governance. Scripture calls for a congregational presbyterian model—plurality of qualified local elders, shared authority, and deep accountability—to safeguard the church and foster true maturity. Without this reform, the AOG and broader Pentecostalism itself will continue its cycle of rise-and-collapse, forfeiting the stability and fruitfulness Christ intended."2 

1. LEGACY MINISTRIES INTERNATIONAL - 1209174
2. (30) Assemblies of God: Scandals and Intentional Instability: A Hope for Repentance and Reform

* The Hidden Origin of the Assemblies of God: Race, Power, and Pentecostal Myth | Podcast Episode 528
* The Apostasy of C.S. Lewis

The skeletons in Bethel's closet are now going to speak

MIKE WINGER FACILITATING BETHEL'S CORRUPT THEOLOGY

An Important Letter from Bill, Kris, and Dann on Behalf of Bethel Leadership | Bethel

Mike Winger’s recent exposé of Shawn Bolz cuts both ways. It is, on one hand, a precise and devastating indictment of Bethel’s leadership and the wider NAR movement. However, his proposal to "restore" false prophets goes beyond what is written, and that overreach carries its own accountability. (Proverbs 30:5-6). In practice, Winger’s approach gives Bethel Church Redding further cover to draw unwary believers deeper into its theological snare. Those who call out false prophets have no business proposing their “restoration” or reforming the false ministries that enable them. That kind of presumption is not righteous. 

In scripture, false prophecy is not treated as a “mistake” but as a disqualifying act that reveals a deeper corruption of character and allegiance. The Bible gives no category for "restoring” a false prophet to ministry. It consistently treats false prophecy as a disqualifying, covenant‑breaking offence, not a lapse that can be rehabilitated. In the Old Testament, false prophecy is treated as a capital offence, not a recoverable mistake. Deuteronomy teaches that a prophet who speaks presumptuously in God’s name is not merely "misguided”—he is to be removed entirely from the community’s spiritual authority ..that same prophet shall die. (Deuteronomy 18:20). Jeremiah's warning is very apt in the current situation: ..you have made this people trust in a lie. (Jeremiah 28:15).

In the New Testament, false prophets are described as wolves. (Matthew 7:15). Wolves are not sheep (believers); they are to be identified and removed from the flock. The scriptural emphasis is on discernment and protection, not restoration to office. (Matthew 7:15-16).

Peter warns that false teachers ..secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. (2 Peter 2:1). The focus is on their danger to the body of Christ and God’s judgment—not their rehabilitation. There are models for restoring sinning believers to fellowship, but never for restoring false prophets. (Galatians 6:1; James 5:19-20).

Doug Geivett recently drew attention to the definition of "cover up".1 A "cover-up" is a deliberate effort to prevent people from discovering the truth about something bad. In other words, the term “cover‑up” inherently presumes knowledge and culpability. In their statement, Bill Johnson and Kris Vallotton admit to failure, misjudgment, blindness, and folly. What they do not confront is the core allegation itself: that they knowingly covered up Shawn Bolz's blatant sins. 

It should be noted that Shawn Bolz is the tip of the iceberg at Bethel. Chris Vallotton is himself a false prophet. Vallotton insists that he is not a false prophet and refers to his failed Trump prophecy in 2020 as an "inaccurate prophetic word" that he has had to "process".2 Bethel has platformed data-mining fraud Chris Reed, and cold reader Paul Cain, along with many false prophets, including Bob Jones, Ché Ahn, Mike Bickle, Todd Bentley, Ben Fitzgerald, etc. We can add fake glory clouds, fake gold dust, fake angel feathers, fake fire tunnels, as well as Sozo inner healing, grave sucking and all manner of false teaching and lying signs. The evidence is overwhelming: Bethel is a counterfeit church that is incapable of true repentance or restoration. As I heard one teacher say, "Heresy cannot be reformed". 

Vallotton's rapid change of perspective since his manipulative message on the 19th of January is due to an alleged "encounter with the Lord".3 In other words, the backlash was so great that he and Bill Johnson had no alternative but to come clean about their part in Shawn Bolz's spiritual fraud and abuse. Vallotton has already been caught red-handed lying in Winger's video, and he gives us no reason to believe or trust anything he says. It would be naive in the extreme to believe that Bethel's leadership have anything of value to offer the body of Christ. 

Forgiveness does not reinstate abusive leaders. Scripture commands us to release personal vengeance to God, but it never returns disqualified men to positions they have forfeited. Forgiveness may be extended, but fitness for ministry remains a separate matter, and trust cannot be rebuilt on sentiment.

What, exactly, does Winger aim to achieve by claiming a mandate to restore false prophets—a mandate scripture never grants? Some say he has poor discernment, but that doesn't make any sense. One of my concerns about Winger was the missing receipts for his Todd White exposé four months ago. However, he has recently, albeit belatedly, provided that much-needed evidence.4  Further concerns are his collaboration with false teacher Torben Sondergaard5 and also his association with TPUSA and ecumenism. Winger claims he wants us to "think biblically", yet the inconsistencies are impossible to ignore. I remain wary of Mike Winger. 

I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. (Romans 16:17-18).

1. Apostolic Covering to Corrupt Coverup: Swapping Spiritual Protection for Systemic Deceit at Bethel
2. How I Processed My Inaccurate Prophetic Word (Your Top Questions Answered)
3. Bethel Church Service | Kris Vallotton Sermon 

4. I Can Finally Show You The Evidence

5. The Predator of Panama: Evangelist Steve Koko

Bethel’s Silence on Shawn Bolz: Carelessness or Cover-Up?

MIKE WINGER: SHAWN BOLZ AND FALSE PROPHETS

The skeletons in Bethel's closet are now going to speak

The above is a detailed video lasting almost six hours that exposes false prophet Shawn Bolz. We might hail Winger as the hero of the day for exposing false teachers. However, I have reservations about Winger's ministry for reasons summarised below.

> Winger's attempt to devise a mechanism for reinstating discredited prophets to ministry is unbiblical. At the beginning of this video, he says that he is "hoping to bring positive reform into the charismatic church." Scripture treats false prophecy as a disqualifying act, not a recoverable error, and offers no basis for restoring false prophets to office. (2 Timothy 3:13).

> His attendance at the Charlie Kirk memorial and his further involvement and endorsement of TPUSA and ecumenism.
> His announcement that he was "changing" and was considering involvement in the gospel, combined with political activism.
> His endorsement of NAR heretics as recently as 2022, and his affirmation of Todd White as "sincere" and a "brother in Christ". 

> He has called for the death of Muslims in Nigeria. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? (1 Corinthians 5:12-13).

For full details, see my previous posts.*

In Winger’s latest video, the issue of anonymous whistleblowers doesn’t arise; he cites a number of named witnesses. Bolz has already been exposed by several ministries, but Winger introduces additional, previously unheard information, and it is useful that it is consolidated in one place. His platform is sizable, and despite my reservations, there is at least the possibility that this video will jolt sincere believers entangled in the NAR to their senses.

NAR false prophets/teachers Bill Johnson, Kris Vallotton, Ché Ahn, Patricia King, Heidi Baker, etc., are a pack of wolves. It is well documented that Bethel Redding manufactures fake glory clouds, fake gold dust, fake angel feathers, fake fire tunnels, as well as practising grave sucking and all manner of false teaching and lying signs. Given their previous history, why is Winger shocked that Vallotton lied and is part of the deception and cover-up culture? 

Winger: "This desire Bethel has to restore fallen leaders is itself a good desire; it doesn't play out without cover-up culture. That's the problem."  (03:20 mark) 

Winger's conclusion: "My call for extreme action from Charismatic leaders." (5:39 mark).

"My call to Charismatic leaders is that you have to call them (false prophets) all out.. The one thing that is going to cleanse the world in the Charismatic world is the truth.. I hope there is real change. I hope there is real reform. I do believe it can happen, but it would take such a change of the structure that you guys would be calling out your own foundations as false. That's what it is going to take, and I will champion you if you do that."  

Winger misses the obvious: he is dealing with savage wolves, not wayward colleagues. His critique assumes that false prophet Kris Vallotton and other leaders at Bethel ought to have acted responsibly—exposing Bolz and safeguarding the wider church. But wolves do what wolves do; they are predatory, not protective. Expecting integrity from them, or appealing to a conscience already cauterised (1 Timothy 4:2), is futile. Scripture warns that such figures prioritise their own image over the truth. They cloak themselves in piety and claim divine authority, yet their words mislead, and their influence draws the undiscerning off course. It is not biblical to call for reform in this extreme situation; anyone who is truly saved needs to come out of this demonic environment. Biblically, the only action to take against false prophets and their enablers is to mark and avoid them. (Romans 16:17-18). In the Old Testament, false prophets were put to death. (Deuteronomy 18:20). In the New Testament, believers are commanded to mark and avoid (ἐκκλίνετε) false prophets/teachers. This is not optional; ἐκκλίνετε is a present imperative active verb.

I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them. Therefore be alert, remembering that for three years I did not cease night or day to admonish every one with tears. (Acts 20:29-31).

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits. (Matthew 7:15-20).

See also 2 Peter 2:1; 1 John 4:1; 2 Corinthians 11:13-15; 1 Timothy 4:1-2; 2 Timothy 3:5; Jeremiah 23:16; Ezekiel 22:28).

The popularity of NAR prophets is itself a warning sign. Jeremiah faced the same dynamic with the "court prophets"—men who delivered only the pleasant messages people preferred to hear. The NAR figures who cluster around Donald Trump illustrate the pattern clearly: they tell their audience exactly what it wants to hear. As Paul warned, some will always gravitate toward teachers who cater to itching ears. (2 Timothy 4:3).

Michael Grant argues that the solution is to simply abandon the charismatic gifts altogether—essentially, a full embrace of cessationism.1 The difficulty with that claim is that scripture affirms the ongoing reality of prophecy and other spiritual gifts, while also providing safeguards for their use. The biblical emphasis is not on shutting the gifts down, but on exercising discernment.

1. The Problem w/ Mike Winger's "Discernment" & Why Exposing Shawn Bolz ISNT' ENOUGH!

* WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: Search results for winger
Topical Bible: God's Judgment on False Prophets
(188) Mike Winger's Non-Discernment - YouTube
The Paul Cain Tapes: How Spiritual Blackmail Shaped the Charismatic Movement | 517

THE KIRK CAMERON PROBLEM: CHRONIC ITCHING EAR SYNDROME

 Kirk Cameron Denies 'Eternal Conscious Torment,' Is Now An Annihilationist? - Protestia

For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions.. (2 Timothy 4:3).

Those who support the heresy of annihilationism must face the chilling fact that they are directly contradicting unequivocal scriptural evidence that hell is eternal conscious torment.  

And they shall go out and look on the dead bodies of the men who have rebelled against me. For their worm shall not die, their fire shall not be quenched, and they shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.” (Isaiah 66:24 cf. Mark 9:44)

Study Bible: "The 'worm' and 'fire' are metaphors for unending decay and punishment. Isaiah chooses decay imagery to stress unending shame. A maggot-consuming corpse normally finishes its work; here the process 'never' ends. Jesus cites this phrase verbatim for Gehenna (Mark 9:47-48), affirming eternal, conscious punishment.

The incongruity of the two images shows that they are not to be understood literally; but both alike imply everlasting continuance, and are incompatible with either of the two modern heresies of universalism or annihilationism."1 

Bible Hub: "No hint of annihilation appears; the torment is ongoing, not terminated.

Fire in Scripture pictures God’s wrath (Hebrews 12:29). It is 'unquenchable,' meaning no outside force can lessen or end it (Matthew 25:41; Revelation 20:10).

The permanence of the fire matches the never-dying worm—dual metaphors underscoring one reality.

This affirms the literal, eternal nature of hell, a place prepared for the devil and his angels yet shared by all who persist in rebellion."2

And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” (Matthew 25:46) .

And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. Daniel 12:2).

 

The contrast and dual destiny between eternal life and eternal punishment are found in both the New and Old Testaments. It is possible for those who question eternal conscious punishment to use the same twisted logic to question eternal life. As such, annihilationism strikes at the very heart of the gospel itself. Those who view annihilationism as a secondary or even a tertiary issue should think again!

Bengel's Gnomen: "The Bible has no metaphysical distinctions, therefore it has no one word to express eternity; this it expresses by long periods joined with one another indefinitely. Αἰῶνες = עו̇לָמִים, æva: very long periods, which, multiplied indefinitely, give the only notion we can form of eternity. Ὡρα (Th. ὃρος, terminus), a definite space of time: καιρὸς, the time, the fit time: χρόνος, time, in its actuality, marking succession: αἰὼν, an indefinite course of time, without the notion of an end. See Tittm. Syn. Gr. Test. Ἀπʼ αἰώνων = from all eternity, a parte ante. Εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας = to all eternity, for ages, for ever, a parte post. As these phrases are applied to the eternity of God Himself, and as, moreover, αἰώνιος is applied to ζωὴ, which none deny to mean everlasting life, no objections (such as have been lately raised), from the meaning of αἰὼν, will hold good against the everlasting duration of punishment."3

And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. (Revelation 20:10)

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. (Matthew 25:41).

And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.” (Revelation 14:11).

They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might. (2 Thessalonians 1:9)

“There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried, and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. (Luke 16:19-31).

As unpalatable as we may find the doctrine of eternal torment, the only way around it is to deny the scriptures. Those who choose this course may find themselves facing the very fate they seek to deny! (Galatians 6:7; Job 4:8; Hosea 8:7; Romans 2:6).

 

Mike Winger: "I'm open to the possibility of annihilationism or conditional immortality."4

Ray Comfort (Living Waters) is a longstanding associate of Kirk Cameron, although strangely, he denies having had any "official involvement" with him for over ten years. Comfort has consistently denied annihilationism, maintaining that the traditional doctrine of eternal conscious torment is the correct biblical view. He has publicly addressed Cameron's recent comments on annihilationism, emphasising that Cameron's views do not align with Living Waters' long-held position.5  Comfort regularly appears on the apostate channel TBN, and he and Cameron hosted a joint fundraiser on TBN last year.6 😞

Cameron previously supported the pretrib rapture view and starred in the "Left Behind" film, which was released in 2000. "Left Behind" pretribulational theology is not biblically accurate and has been widely criticised and debunked by various bible teachers. Cameron subsequently changed his view from pretribulationism to posttribulationism following discussions with Joe Schimmel (Blessed Hope Chapel). Once again, Cameron did not do his due diligence and he failed to recognise the flaws in Schimmel's posttribulational eschatology. (1 John 4:1). More recently, Cameron has promoted a more world-and-life view, focusing on family, history, and cultural renewal rather than "apocalyptic fear". He now claims that the rapture may not happen for millennia.7  This view aligns more with postmillennialism, although Cameron has not formally identified with any particular tradition. Cameron's disjointed history indicates that he is not a reliable source and is unqualified to teach theology. (2 Timothy 2:15). The scriptures state that no one knows the day or the hour, and we should watch rather than speculate about the time of Jesus' Parousia. Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. (Matthew 24:36,42,25:13). Furthermore, the scriptures do not hold out an optimistic eschatological view; in fact, just the reverse. 

But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, , unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. (2 Timothy 3:1-5 cf. Matthew 24:12; 1 Timothy 4:1; 2 Peter 3:3; Jude 1:18 ).

I suggest that we take the advice of the apostle and mark and avoid Kirk Cameron. (Romans 16:17-18).

Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. (Proverbs 3:5).  

1. Isaiah 66:24 Commentaries: "Then they will go forth and look On the corpses of the men Who have transgressed against Me. For their worm will not die And their fire will not be quenched; And they will be an abhorrence to all mankind."
2. Isaiah 66:24 "As they go forth, they will see the corpses of the men who have rebelled against Me; for their worm will never die, their fire will never be quenched, and they will be a horror to all mankind."
3. Matthew 25:46 Commentaries: "These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

4. (152) 20 Questions with Pastor Mike (Episode 99) - YouTube
5. Addressing Kirk Cameron’s New Thoughts On Hell – Living Waters Down Under | Ray Comfort
6. Bing Videos
7. A Worldview of Optimism and Vi… - The Gary DeMar Podcast - Apple Podcasts

Further Links

WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: edward fudge, david reagan: the heresy of annihilationism

7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture (Full Movie)

Articles of Prewrath

Microsoft Word - Prewrath - Early Church Fathers.docx

MIKE WINGER IS SUCH A DISAPPOINTMENT

Mike Winger Endorses the Next Crusade | @Mike Winger

Above is a video by E511 Ministries. I am unfamiliar with their theology, and as such, I am unable to endorse them at the present time. The video demonstrates that Mike Winger is calling for the death of Muslims in Nigeria. I find this absolutely shocking! Along with others, Winger has turned away from the gospel in favour of political activism, and he now supports the TPUSA MAGA Trump agenda. 

The original Crusades took place between 1095 and 1291 and were initiated by the papacy to reclaim and defend the Holy Land (especially Jerusalem) from Muslim control. The result of the crusades strengthened papal authority and influenced European politics, trade and culture. In biblical terms, the Crusades were unrighteous and did not align with the teachings of Jesus Christ. Any crusade-style response to the terrible genocide and atrocities committed in Nigeria is tainted by fleshly political manoeuvrings and is unbiblical. Trump is not a Christian, and his agenda is not based on biblical principles. Winger's emotive one-size-fits-all is a gross distortion of the truth. According to various sources, the reality is more complex than simply framing the violence as "Christian genocide". Violence in Nigeria has affected both Muslims and Christians. Much of Nigeria’s violence is Muslim-on-Muslim as well as Muslim>Christian. In northern Nigeria, especially, many victims of Boko Haram, ISWAP, and bandit groups are themselves Muslims, indicating that the crisis is not simply one religion against another.*

Muslims make up approximately 50-55% of Nigeria's population, while Christians make up approximately 45-49%. The Christian population can be broken down into Roman Catholics in the east, and Protestants in the south (Anglicans, Baptists, Methodists and Independent/Pentecostal megachurches: Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG), Winners’ Chapel, and Christ Embassy are among the largest, with millions of members worldwide. As in other countries, the designation "Christian" is no indication of the true number of bible believing born-again Christians in Nigeria. In fact, the acute corruption in Nigeria is in no small part due to unscrupulous church leaders!

Vanguard: "Abuja — The Chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), Ola Olukoyede, has made a shocking allegation that some religious groups in Nigeria are more corrupt than public officials.
Speaking at a leadership conference of the Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG) over the weekend, Olukoyede claimed that the EFCC has recovered millions of naira from a religious organization recently.
'Pastors have made wealth the centrepiece of the gospel, which is far from the doctrine given to us by the apostles,' he said.
Akintunde was reacting to a viral video of a pastor allegedly claiming that God accepts tithes from proceeds of fraud and cybercrime."1 

Church Times Nigeria: "We live in an era of unprecedented religious visibility. Megachurches dot the skylines of major cities, religious broadcasting saturates the airwaves, and social media feeds are inundated with spiritual aphorisms.
Yet, beneath this veneer of vibrancy, a quiet crisis is unfolding. It is a crisis not of attendance, but of substance; not of passion, but of depth.
As noted in recent critiques of contemporary ecclesiology, the modern church is increasingly producing 'two-dimensional Christians', believers who possess a breadth of enthusiasm but a shallowness of understanding.
The prevailing focus on hyper-spiritism and radical prosperity has created a theological vacuum. In many urbanised pulpits, the historic Christian faith, once characterised by intellectual rigour, sacrificial love, and the navigation of suffering, has been repackaged into a “fast food diet” of immediate gratification.
This shift raises profound questions about the sustainability of such a faith and the spiritual legacy being left for the next generation. If the church is to survive the cultural and intellectual storms of the twenty-first century, it must move beyond the populist preachments of success and return to the foundational, albeit challenging, work of theological education and discipleship."2

Punch: "The Lead Pastor of Hilltop City Christian Centre, Lagos, Victor Akintunde, has said church 
leaders also share the blame for the country’s deepening corruption crisis.
In an interview, Akintunde expressed concern that many prominent pastors had veered away from the core message of Christianity, replacing it with an obsession with prosperity and wealth.
'Part of the corrupt tendencies that have bedevilled Nigeria emanated from church leaders.
'Many of us have left the message of Christ and are now fixated on prosperity." 3 

Similar to the UK, Europe and other countries, it appears that the number of true Christians in Nigeria is a small remnant. It is therefore a misnomer to identify Nigerian churchgoers as "our brothers and sisters" or "Christian martyrs". TPUSA, including Mike Winger and others, are in fact exacerbating an already bad situation by inciting violence due to their warped version of reality. I view the current situation as a call to repentance and an opportunity to proclaim the true gospel to both the Muslim population and to "professing" Christians who are not genuine believers. 

Those associated with TPUSA have compromised with a tainted ecumenical gospel, which is really no gospel at all. (Galatians 1:7). I am all in favour of raising strong objections and taking sanctions against the perpetrators of genocide in Nigeria, but this should be done in collaboration with the true gospel, which is the only solution for the world. (John 8:12).

Winger seems to have "forgotten" the clear teaching of Jesus Christ not to endorse violent action against persecutors.

But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, / that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. / If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Do not even tax collectors do the same? (Matthew 5:44-48).

But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil. (Luke 6:35).

Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them. Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep. Live in harmony with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly. Never be wise in your own sight. Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. (Romans 12:14-21).

For though we live in the flesh, we do not wage war according to the flesh. (2 Corinthians 10:3).

To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste… (Deuteronomy 32:35,43)

Greg Laurie's insensitively named "Harvest Crusade" recently intersected with TPUSA following the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The event took place on the 16th of November at Utah Valley University, and drew over 10,000 attendees. Laurie is the founder of Harvest Christian Fellowship (HCF) which is yet another mega church experiencing severe allegations of sexual abuse and cover up at the present time. Multiple lawsuits filed in 2025 allege that a former pastor and missionary associated with HCF abused and trafficked children at church-supported homes in Romania in the early 2000's. The suits also claim HCF and senior leaders, including Greg Laurie, were negligent in failing to present the abuse or respond adequately to warnings. There are currently ongoing public calls for Laurie to resign as Senior Pastor of HCF.4 

Many associated with TPUSA should address the plank in their own eye before they presume to inflict their views on others! (Matthew 7:3-5; Isaiah 9:16).

https://youtube.com/shorts/BTyA5hwComc?si=khKS-HixhdQjUcsA
Violence Continues in Nigeria Against Christians and Muslims - The New York Times

Nigeria violence: Data shows most victims are Muslim, despite focus on Christian attacks - Africa - World - Ahram Online*

1. Nigeria: Some Religious Groups More Corrupt Than Public Officials - EFCC Chair, Olukoyede - allAfrica.com
2. Crisis of Depth: Reclaiming Theological Rigour in Prosperity-Obsessed Church - Church Times Nigeria - News, features and more
3. Nigeria Corruption: Church Leaders Complicit, Says Cleric
4. Frmr Pastor at Greg Laurie's Church Accused of Child Abuse in Romania, Lawsuit Claims

TPUSA: THE LETHAL MIXTURE POLITICS AND CHRISTIANITY

Charlie Kirk: Martyr for the Seven Mountain Mandate

And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church (ἐκκλησίαν), and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (Matthew 16:18).  

Charlie Kirk's interpretation of the above verse is a mandate for Christians to "build my church on this government structure". Kirk falsely claimed that the Greek noun ἐκκλησία (ekklesia) should be interpreted as "government structure". However, Jesus did not call Christians to build on existing government structures; He said I will build my church. Kirk's blatant misinterpretation of this verse accommodates the lethal seven mountain mandate. The lexical interpretation of ἐκκλησία is from a compound of ek (meaning 'from' or 'out of') and a derivative of kaleo (to call (forth). Strongs: "1577 ekklēsía(from 1537 /ek, 'out from and to' and 2564 /kaléō, 'to call') – properly, people called out from the world and to God, the outcome being the Church (the mystical body of Christ) – i.e. the universal (total) body of believers whom God calls out from the world and into His eternal kingdom. [The English word 'church' comes from the Greek word kyriakos, 'belonging to the Lord' (kyrios). 1577 /ekklēsía ('church') is the root of the terms 'ecclesiology' and 'ecclesiastical.']"1 People are called out of the world into the kingdom of God; It is Christ who builds His church, not Christians! Kirk's lethal strategy was to target the young and to shut down any objections without allowing anyone the time or opportunity to test his claims. (1 John 4:1). 

Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.” (John 18:36).

TPUSA, Dominion Theology, the NAR, and those who believe that secular government and Christians can work together to achieve Christian principles in the world are in serious error. (1 John 4:6). TPUSA is ostensibly a "Christian" organisation, and while they espouse some Christian values, there are red flags everywhere. Charlie Kirk gave his full support to the NAR seven mountain mandate. His divisive rhetoric against the black community was indefensible, and his ecumenism was demonstrated by his endorsement of the Roman Catholic Church and his validation of Mormonism. (2 Corinthians 11:14). On the 26th of September 2025, Vivek Ramaswamy, a Hindu and Republican candidate, faced questions about his faith at a Turning Point USA event. Ramaswamy is a veteran of Charlie Kirk’s “Prove me wrong” campus colloquies. Ramaswamy: “Every religion has its reconciling of the one and the many. And so, in my faith, I believe there’s one true God, he resides in all of us, and he appears in different forms, but it’s one true God. I’m an ethical monotheist.”2 

Politics and Christianity are like oil and water; their source are completely different. Politics is based on worldly governance, which is under the dominion of Satan. Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.” (John 18:36).

Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to him, “All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me.” Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’” (Matthew 4:8-10).

When Christians seek to infiltrate and influence the political strongholds of the world, they disobey Christ and transfer their allegiance to Satan's dominion. Paul used the terms "powers and principalities" to describe spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. (Ephesians 6:12). The apostles were subversives; they were killed because they were opponents of the state. The Christian mandate is to rescue people from the world  i.e. make disciples of all nations, and to preach the gospel to all creation. (Matthew 28:10; Mark 16:15). It is impossible for true Christians to gain political influence in the world without betraying the gospel. The world rejects and hates true Christians. (Matthew 10:22; John 17:14; 1 John 2:15; 2 Timothy 3:12-13). 

If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. (John 5:19).

Worldly influence only becomes possible when collusion and compromise are involved. The world is perishing and will ultimately be destroyed. (1 John 2:17; Matthew 24:35). According to the seven mountain mandate, the aim is for Christians to ultimately rule the nations. There is no persecution or cost involved in their agenda. Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.. (2 Timothy 3:12).

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed. Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of people ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness, waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be set on fire and dissolved, and the heavenly bodies will melt as they burn! But according to his promise we are waiting for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. (2 Peter 3:10-13).

The Antichrist will arise from the political arena. 

And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. And the beast that I saw was like a leopard; its feet were like a bear’s, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority. (Revelation 13:1-2). 

Revelation 13:1-2 draws from the four successive beast kingdoms in Daniel 7. Daniel's vision describes four distinct terrifying creatures placed in juxtaposition to the saints and the kingdom of God:‘These four great beasts are four kings who shall arise out of the earth. But the saints of the Most High shall receive the kingdom and possess the kingdom forever, forever and ever.’ (Daniel 7:17-18). The four beasts are described as the empires of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome, aligning with the vision of the statue in Daniel 2. In biblical literature, the sea often symbolizes chaos, evil, and the nations in turmoil. (Isaiah 17:12-13 cf. Revelation 17:15). 

I will briefly refer to Caleb Corneloup's recent video and his argument for Christians to be involved in politics.3 Caleb refers exclusively to characters from the Old Testament. While these examples are interesting, they are not relevant to the global situation and the nations today. Ancient Israel was a theocracy that was established by God Himself as outlined in the Torah. As such, it was unavoidable that their leaders would be politically active. We cannot compare Old Testament passages about political involvement with today's political activism in His name. No nation today has a covenant with God. Jesus Christ will establish a global theocracy when He returns.

Those who profess Christianity and use politics as a vehicle to achieve their goals inevitably become persecutors. Following Constantine’s alleged conversion to Christianity in 321AD, Augustine of Hippo introduced many heresies and paved the way for Roman Catholicism. Augustine argued that coercion was justified as a method of persuasion and correction. The dark history of Charlemagne, who was crowned Holy Roman Emperor in 800, is beyond doubt. The Roman Catholic Crusades from the 11th to the 13th centuries were a mix of politics, religion, and violence, during which time many atrocities were committed. Both Luther and Calvin made wicked choices when they held political power. Luther compromised when he opposed the peasants' revolt and sided with "the princes". Luther sanctioned the death penalty for Anabaptists, resulting in some of them being "rebaptised" by drowning in the Danube with rocks tied to their feet. Luther's open hatred of the Jews is well known, as is his rejection of certain New Testament books and his attempt to ban them. Geneva became a repressive authoritarian police state under the abuser John Calvin. Michael Seretus was murdered in 1553 for daring to disagree with Calvin. The NAR seven mountain mandate belongs to the same category as its predecessors; the seeds are being sown, and the final result will be the beast empire of the Antichrist. 

Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the judgment of the great prostitute who is seated on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth have committed sexual immorality, and with the wine of whose sexual immorality the dwellers on earth have become drunk.”And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness, and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was full of blasphemous names, and it had seven heads and ten horns. The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and jewels and pearls, holding in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of her sexual immorality. And on her forehead was written a name of mystery: “Babylon the great, mother of prostitutes and of earth’s abominations.” And I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. (Revelation 17:1-6). 

And the angel said to me, “The waters that you saw, where the prostitute is seated, are peoples and multitudes and nations and languages. And the ten horns that you saw, they and the beast will hate the prostitute. They will make her desolate and naked, and devour her flesh and burn her up with fire, for God has put it into their hearts to carry out his purpose by being of one mind and handing over their royal power to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. And the woman that you saw is the great city that has dominion over the kings of the earth.” (Revelation 17:15-18).

When we see Christian leaders like Joe Schimmel and Chad Davidson (Good Fight Ministries), Mike Winger, and Ray Comfort supporting TPUSA events, we should question their discernment and their true allegiance to Christ. 

1. Strong's Greek: 1577. ἐκκλησία (ekklésia) -- Church, assembly, congregation
2. Ramaswamy's TPUSA moment leaves believers asking, 'Why is Hinduism so hard to explain?'
3. Should Christians Be Involved In Politics?

CHAD DAVIDSON GOOD FIGHT MINISTRIES HYPOCRISY

Further to my recent post regarding Chad Davidson's attendance shame at TPUSA Cal State Fullerton.1 Good Fight Ministries could hardly claim ignorance that TPUSA is ecumenical, and yet in their hypocrisy Chad Davidson and other "reliable" ministers attended this event, including Mike Winger and Ray Comfort. In a recent comment on GFM's livestream, the question was asked: "Is TPUSA ecumenical?", to which they replied "Yes". This completely contradicts their praise of Charlie Kirk after his death when they described him as a "defender of the faith" who "loved Jesus".

GFM have failed to respond to my concerns and also the concerns of others. This is not the first time I have failed to receive a response from the leadership of Blessed Hope Chapel/Good Fight Ministries. In previous posts I have highlighted Joe Schimmel's skewed eschatology.2 

Given their numerous exposés of false teachers, I think GFM 's followers deserve an explanation. Otherwise should we assume that they are no better than the phonies who turn a blind eye when their true colours are revealed?

And Elijah came near to all the people and said, “How long will you go limping between two different opinions? If the LORD is God, follow him; but if Baal, then follow him.” And the people did not answer him a word. (1 Kings 18:21 cf. James 1:8).

1. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: CHAD DAVIDSON GOOD FIGHT MINISTRIES TPUSA SHAME
2. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: Good Fight Ministries

CHAD DAVIDSON GOOD FIGHT MINISTRIES TPUSA SHAME

Is This A Spiritual Turning Point? & Candace's Shocking Dream About Charlie Kirk Exposed

..if the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do? (Psalm 11:3).

GFM: "The Good Fight Ministries team had boots on the ground at the Turning Point USA event, where Ray Comfort and the guys from Living Waters used the opportunity to share the gospel with the student body at Cal State Fullerton. While there in person we even had the chance to do some interviews with those who attended. Today will be telling you what we saw, heard and thought of the event after taking it all in firsthand. Also, Candace Owens recently claimed to have been visited by Charlie Kirk in a dream. A dream she says confirmed her own beliefs about what happened and that it would all be revealed very soon. Finally, we'll look at the broader reaction from Christians across the country, many of whom are calling what's happening a revival following Charlie's death, while others are urging caution."

I am assuming Chad Davidson's attendance at TPUSA at Cal State Fullerton was with the blessing of his mentor Joe Schimmel. Both these men should know better, having warned about false teachers for years via their numerous exposés.

Do we really have to ask the question: Is this a revival?

What are the foundations of TPUSA? 

Charlie Kirk was a right-wing political activist, entrepreneur, and media personality. He co-founded the conservative student organization Turning Point USA (TPUSA) in 2012. Over time, he became aligned with the Christian right and began advocating for Christian nationalism. His more controversial views included criticism of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Martin Luther King Jr., COVID-19, claims of electoral fraud in 2020, and the white genocide conspiracy theory.

One of Kirk's favorite topics was skepticism about the value of college degrees. Wikipedia: "He had the advantage of having refined his debate performance against hundreds of people and used arguments likely to result in agitated and defensive responses by his less experienced opponents."1

Kirk's rhetoric has been described as divisive, racist, xenophobic, and extremist by groups that study hate speech, including the Southern Poverty Law Centre. Kirk's positions have been described as far-right by a variety of outlets and academics, and others state that these positions are now in the mainstream of American conservatism. 

Tragically, the ecumenical agenda has been radically advanced by Kirk. In this respect, he actually damaged the true gospel and he was an enemy of Jesus Christ. Kirk's unwavering commitment to the seven mountain mandate, his association with the NAR, Roman Catholics, Mormons, false teachers like Mark Driscoll, and his derogatory remarks about the black community are anti-Christian indicators. It is patently obvious that TPUSA has never been about the true gospel of Jesus Christ. 

Davidson discussed the problems encountered by Ray Comfort at TPUSA Cal State Fullerton. Comfort apparently received an invitation to speak at the event, and he accepted, claiming that he intended to preach the gospel. However, it all went badly wrong. Comfort had prepared two Charlie Kirk video clips and questions he would like to be asked. He told the associate producer how important it was that those two clips were played. After waiting all day for his slot and preparing what he was going to say, he discovered that "the powers that be" hadn't used those clips. After the event, Comfort admitted that he had messed up and he apologised to upset believers for being "rude, impatient, and unloving". This is what comes of validating false teachers and putting oneself under the authority of a pseudo-Christian organisation.2 

Others who attended were Calvinist Jeff Durbin, who is continuing to speak at TPUSA events. Mike Winger, whose latest exposé of "cover up culture" was achieved with the corroboration of false teacher and demon slayer Torben Sonderbgaard.3 

Gabe Hughes: "Now this movement may eventually be overrun by conspiracy theorists, by people trying to radicalize you to their agenda, and by liars and false teachers. But for now, we have this opportunity to share the gospel of Jesus Christ and speak the truth in love, and we should take it. It's dangerous, but eternal souls are at stake. The danger didn't stop Charlie Kirk, and it shouldn't stop us." 14:00 mark.  > The real danger is that TPUSA is leading thousands of vulnerable young people to accept a false gospel! (2 Corinthians 11:4 cf. 1 John 4:1).

Davidson: "I was astounded by how many false things were being shared.." 

Chad Davidson has chosen to ignore the elephant in the room. However, many of his viewers have not. The selection of comments below say it all. 

1. Charlie Kirk - Wikipedia
2. I made a HUGE mistake at our Turning Point USA event. I owe you an apology…
    My behind the scenes nightmare at Fox News...
3. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: MIKE WINGER: ABANDONING PURE DEVOTION TO CHRIST

Further Links

Conservatism’s Inevitable Conversion to Catholicism - Crisis Magazine
Erika Kirk Religion: Charlie's Wife Catholic or Protestant? Charlie Kirk's wife holds a rosary after his shooting. #shorts #CharlieKirk #ErikaKirk #Faith
Charlie Kirk Said ‘Mary is the Solution’ to Toxic Feminism in America: ‘We Don’t Talk About Mary Enough’ – EWTN Great Britain
Charlie Kirk’s Pastor REBUKES Candace Owens | The Truth About Catholic Claim
Charlie Kirk praised Tyler Robinson's religion just moments before 'assassin' from devout Mormon family shot him dead | Daily Mail Online
Lance Live with Charlie Kirk. Buckle up buttercup!
Charlie Kirk once said prominent Black women didn't have 'brain processing power' to be taken seriously | Snopes.com
Charlie Kirk Is Dead—But Black America Remembers His Racism
From Ku Klux Klan to QAnon: How Cults Fueled Racist Politics

WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: CHARLIE KIRK'S FAITH EXAMINED

MIKE WINGER: ABANDONING PURE DEVOTION TO CHRIST

Charlie Kirk, the Memorial, and how I am changing

But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. (2 Corinthians 11:3).

Mike Winger is the featured teacher of BibleThinker online ministry. He graduated from the School of Ministry at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa and was ordained in 2006.1 Winger abandoned his post as an associate pastor in Southern California, and he is now described as an "influencer".

I recently became very alarmed by Winger's attendance at the Charlie Kirk memorial and his subsequent announcement that he was "changing" and was considering involvement in the gospel combined with political activism. This is, of course, fraternization with the world and has nothing to do with pure devotion to Christ. Winger was seen happily chatting with Calvinist Jeff Durbin at the Kirk memorial. What I find troubling about this is that Winger seems to have difficulty drawing the line between calling out false teachers and fraternizing with them. Winger appeared to be the best of friends with Durbin at this event, which is surprising considering his in-depth series calling out Calvinism as unbiblical and the fact that many believers regard Calvinism as a "different gospel". (2 Corinthians 11:4; Romans 16:17-18)2 

Winger has recently attended a TPUSA meeting together with Ray Comfort to "see what he thinks".3 This is a no-brainer. Christ explicitly repeated the phrase, "My kingdom is not of this world".

Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.” (John 18:36).

Winger: "I am going to take down an artificial barrier that was stopping some of my activity of thinking biblically about everything.."4  Winger said this was an off-the-cuff "random weird livestream". It is never a good idea to do something like this on the spur of the moment without prayer and due consideration, especially considering the huge implications of Winger's new ideas. There was hardly any scripture in the entire 1:15-hour livestream; what scripture there was was twisted by worldly reasoning! (30:55 mark) As a so-called "influencer", Winger is on the cusp of deceiving his entire audience of approximately 100,0000 into worldly thinking and deflecting them from the true purposes of God! (Matthew 16:23). This is a massive issue! Charlie Kirk-style debating about moral issues is to go beyond the remit of Christian ministry. Conviction of sin is the work of the Holy Spirit! (John 16:8 cf. John 15:26-27). The primary sin of the world is unbelief. (John 16:9). Believers are called to preach the gospel and make disciples of all nations, nothing more. (Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:15; Luke 24:47). The New Testament teaches that it is those within the church we should judge; God will judge those outside. (1 Corinthians 5:12-13).

The considerable efforts of some to sanitize Charlie Kirk's legacy should fool no one. Kirk was a fast talker and a skilled debater whose opponents consisted largely of inexperienced college students who were no match for his considerable rhetorical expertise. In many instances, he "won the argument" due to what in my view were bullying tactics. On close examination, Kirk has been proven to be contradictory and factually wrong in a number of instances.TPUSA is a worldly organization that seeks to attain political dominion, hence their allegiance to many NAR false teachers who promote Dominion Theology. Charlie Kirk was heavily invested in the unbiblical NAR Seven Mountain Mandate. 

The "Third Way" theology within TPUSA represents a complex interplay between political activism and theological fidelity, challenging believers to navigate the complexities of contemporary culture while adhering to their faith. The critical question is whether political activism and adherence to faith can be combined or whether they are mutually exclusive. Jesus Himself did not involve Himself in the politics of His time, and neither did His apostles. The political realm is part of the worldly system of corruption and will ultimately be used by the Antichrist as his vehicle to gain ascendancy. TPUSA has been described as a threat to democracy and has been linked to white nationalism and Christofascism.      

It should be noted that Satan is presently in authority over worldly powers. Jesus rejected worldly power and dominion when he rejected Satan's offer of "all the kingdoms of the world". The required compromise is "if you will fall down and worship me.."

Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to him, “All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me.” Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’”Then the devil left him, and behold, angels came and were ministering to him. (Matthew 4:8-11).

You adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore, whoever chooses to be a friend of the world renders himself an enemy of God. (James 4:4 cf. 1 John 2:15-17; Romans 12:2). 

Dominion theology and true faith in Christ are at variance with one another. Any Christian supporting TPUSA must abandon biblical eschatology and realign their faith to political dominionist eschatology rooted in this world. 

Will TPUSA and Dominionism make a positive difference in the world? Not according to Jesus. Jesus described a multiplication of wickedness and a deterioration of the world in the last days. 

Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you. For many will come in My name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. These things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.....For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.. (Matthew 24:4-8,37 cf.Genesis 6:5). 

But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. For among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions, always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth. Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men corrupted in mind and disqualified regarding the faith. But they will not get very far, for their folly will be plain to all, as was that of those two men. (2 Timothy 3:1-9).

And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who was sitting on the horse and against his army. And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur. And the rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse, and all the birds were gorged with their flesh. (Revelation 19:19-21 cf.Revelation 16:14). 

 

Further Concerns

As recently as November 2022, Winger claimed that he would "absolutely" fellowship with false churches like Bethel.. I will not throw out the baby with the bathwater. I think that Bethel is not a church full of demons. Bethel is a church full of people that are sincere, that have some things off.. I would still fellowship with them. I would still call them my brothers and sisters in the Lord. Absolutely."5 I was concerned about this statement at that time, but I gave Winger the benefit of the doubt. Winger only changed his mind about Bethel when he received severe pushback and was shamed into issuing a retraction. I now regard Winger's statement at that time as a red flag and a harbinger of things to come. Having given this matter further consideration in light of recent events, it seems incomprehensible that a discerning Christian teacher could have missed Bethel's blasphemy and failed to call them out adequately. Bethel Redding is a hotbed of aberrant NAR New Age unbiblical teachings, including spiritual fakery, grave suckng, and the prosperity gospel.6 

Winger's anonymous witnesses during his exposure of Todd White was unbiblical. Winger claimed that multiple eye-witnesses came forward alleging years of disqualifying behavior from White, including theft, pathological lies, spiritual abuse and manipulation, and allegations of domestic abuse. However, Winger's multiple eyewitnesses failed to materialize. Winger claimed, “I’ve met with them, confirmed their identities, seen the evidence that corroborates their testimonies, and believe that it’s Christ-honoring to come forward and shout a warning to believers everywhere that Todd White is disqualified and dangerous.” It may well be that Winger's accusations against White were true and I do not dismiss them. However, biblically, we should not accept an allegation against an "elder" (I use the term loosely in Todd Whites case) without evidence. Biblically, the word of a single witness is unacceptable, and corroborating evidence is always required. (Matthew 18:16; 1 Timothy 5:19; 2 Corinthians 13:1; Deuteronomy 19:15, etc.) Winger promised that the evidence would be forthcoming, but it has never materialized. Winger's exposé would have endorsed White's already tainted reputation as a conman who engages in parlour tricks and false teaching, but without corroboration, it cannot be accepted. 

Winger "About those objections to hell..." 28 September 2023: "I am open to the idea of annihilationism or conditional immortality.."7 (10:42 mark). At the same time, Winger affirms the existence of hell. This kind of double-talk is very unhelpful and waters down the gospel. 

Recently, I reported on Winger's interview with Elijah Stephens, where it was assumed that false teachers could be reinstated. Winger: "This video is made to help stir up positive change in the movement." Stephens repeatedly made protracted appeals to Shawn Bolz and Bethel leaders to take accountability and to reform their ministries.8 Once again, Winger apparently failed to comprehend that Shawn Bolz and Bethel leaders are utterly disqualified and should never assume the role of teachers within the body of Christ, even if they do repent. 

Mike Winger's recent exposure of cult leader Steven Koko, the so-called "predator of Panama",9 involves close collaboration with hypercharismatic false teacher Torben Sondergaard, founder of The Last Reformation.10 Sondergaard is a "thus saith the Lord" leg puller and demon slayer who hijacks people into false repentance. (See further links) Again, I am not dismissing Winger's claims against Koko, and it appears that in this instance, there are viable witnesses to the abuse. However, no bona fide Christian apologist should collaborate with false teachers like Sondergaard > the means do not justify the ends.

What Winger describes as his epic fight against "cover-up culture" may seem very worthy, but it is problematic. Winger's response to Koko's "goons" is "over my dead body". This sounds very courageous, but Christ is not looking for lone ranger heroes who ignore his precepts, just faithful servants.11

Winger: "Over my dead body.
Steve Koko's goons are already threatening people with legal action, trying to get my video removed. Can I reply to them right here?
My reply: If we got anything wrong reach out to me and tell me. But, if you are trying to intimidate and control, doing Cover-Up Culture (as I suspect) then I want you to know that every action you take will only make things WORSE for you. I will shine the light on your acts and the things you do to try to continue intimidating and controlling people. If my video has anything wrong in it, I will happily deal with it. But, when it comes to lies, threats, and bullying, my only response to you is 'over my dead body.'"

Having now done a much deeper dive into Mike Winger's ministry, he puts me in mind of compromiser Michael Brown, who speaks out of both sides of his mouth and makes excuses for false teachers. I now regard Winger as unsafe, and critically, he is potentially part of the false light of the political right. 

   

1. About BibleThinker - BibleThinker
2. Why I Think Calvinism Is Unbiblical
3. My thoughts on the TPUSA event.
4. Charlie Kirk, the Memorial, and how I am changing
5. https://youtu.be/9rsyt_VYJZQ
6. https://youtu.be/weHo7pO6cmQ
7. About those objections to Hell…
8. https://www.blogger.com/blog/post/edit/4103925900569325548/6413567918985767200#
9. This Is Disgusting – Why I Expose My Friend Koko and Join Mike Winger to Uncover Church Coverup
10. Why Mike Winger Started Exposing Bad Christian Leaders

Further Links

An Open Letter To Mike Winger - You're Working With The CNP and I Doubt You Know It - Part 1

https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2025/09/charlie-kirks-faith-examined.html
WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: MIKE WINGER: THE FOLLY OF SEEKING TO RESTORE FALSE PROPHETS TO MINISTRY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttJGC-lIZv8&t=4s
https://youtu.be/m1est65LcdIhttps://youtu.be/X4J0I4q0JAo
The Venom They Want Sanitized: Kirk's Own Shocking Rhetoric Unmasked
Will Mike Winger Finally Call Bill Johnson a False Teacher? | Christian Research Network
Torben Sondergaard Confused False Teacher!

Torben Sondergaard false teacher

(778) Torben Sondergaard: The Beginning of False Testimonies - YouTube