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Sunday, 14 May 2017

PROPHECY TODAY MAGAZINE: THE NONSENSE OF CLIFFORD DENTON AND THE CORONATION OATH!

But to the wicked God says: “What right have you to recite my statutes or take my covenant on your lips? (Psalm 50:16).

Integration into EU Would Betray Coronation Oath     
http://www.prophecytoday.uk/comment/society-politics/item/413-integration-into-a-european-super-state-would-betray-coronation-oath.html

Clifford Denton: "A pivotal point in the debate about Britain's relationship with the EU must be our Coronation Oath, which sets us apart as a nation of declared intention, seeking to live under the rule and protection of Almighty God. With the Bible at the foundation of our laws, setting a protecting boundary for the free and open proclamation of the Gospel in our nation, with thousands of years of history to get us to 2 June 1953, the Queen led the way in commitment at the Coronation service in Westminster Abbey....
Britain has entered into a 'voluntary covenant' with God, through the Coronation Oath."

Denton: "Is it a fanciful view of Britain's status before God to see it in covenant terms?"
Answer: Yes it is a fanciful view indeed!!! The New Testament does not support the heretical idea that anyone is entitled to enter into a covenant with God through the oath of a third party!!!

The folly that comes out of Prophecy Today is quite frankly unbelievable. Founder and Editor in Chief Clifford Hill of Issachar Ministries claims to be "prophetic"..... However, my Bible does not recognise the position of an "ecumenical prophet" in the Kingdom of God!!!

Has Britain entered into a corporate "voluntary covenant" with God through the Queen's Coronation Oath? Apart from the theological problems associated with such a claim, there are compelling reasons to believe that the Coronation Oath was void even before it was uttered.


"Princess Elizabeth (later Queen Elizabeth II) in a robe of green is led by an acolyte to Archdruid Crwys Williams, who will initiate her into the Mystic Circle of Bards at the national Eisteddfod, or festival, at Mountain Ash, Glamorgan, Wales, August 6, 1946."{1}


Princess Elizabeth Nazi Salute

Albert and Elizabeth, the Duke and Duchess of York, in druidic robes at the National Eisteddfod of Wales in Swansea. They are the future King George VI and Queen Elizabeth of England.
1953 The Coronation of Queen Elizabeth

God is against oaths:

But above all, my brothers, do not swear, either by heaven or by earth or by any other oath, but let your “yes” be yes and your “no” be no, so that you may not fall under condemnation. (James 5:12 cf. Matthew 5:34).

Notice that James is addressing "brothers"  that is believers (of either sex). Can we honestly say that the Druid Princess was a Christian when she took the Coronation Oath? This is the woman who signed the Abortion Act in 1967 and the Equal Marriages Act in 2013. To be Protestant these days is, by and large, to be ecumenical... that is to recognise as valid paganism and false gods. (Jeremiah 18:15). When and if Prince Charles takes the Oath as "Defender of Faiths" as he puts it, he will espouse a "faith" that is absolutely alien to the scriptures and an abomination. (2 Kings 23:13).

There is of course only one way to enter into a covenant with God, and that particular way was instigated by God Himself through Jesus Christ. We in Britain should not imagine that we have any covenant with God due to the Queen's Coronation Oath... this is a lie from the pit of hell!

Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3).

..since you have been born again, not of perishable seed but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God; (1 Peter 1:23).

But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. (John 1:12-13).

The English Coronation Oath dates back to at least the coronation of Edgar at Bath Abbey in 973 A.D. Alterations were made to the oath over time, particularly in the 17th century to take account of the Protestant Reformation.{2}

An excerpt from Queen Elizabeth II Coronation Oath:

Archbishop: Will you to the utmost of your power maintain the Laws of God and the true profession of the Gospel? Will you to the utmost of your power maintain in the United Kingdom the Protestant Reformed Religion established by law? Will you maintain and preserve inviolably the settlement of the Church of England, and the doctrine, worship, discipline, and government thereof, as by law established in England? And will you preserve unto the Bishops and Clergy of England, and to the Churches there committed to their charge, all such rights and privileges, as by law do or shall appertain to them or any of them?
Queen: All this I promise to do.{3}

When England became Protestant, it was not the result of anything meritorious about the monarch, King Henry VIII; quite the reverse in fact. Protestantism in England was forged through the godlessness of Henry, his lust for Anne Boleyn and his wish to divorce Catherine of Aragon, not by any true commitment to Jesus Christ. Henry's original remit was to eliminate the so called "heresy" of Martin Luther. In 1521 Pope Leo X conferred the title of Defender of the Faith on Henry for his book 'Assertio Septem Sacramentorum', which affirmed the supremacy of the Pope in the face of the reforming ideals of the  Martin Luther.{4} All was well until the Pope refused to sanction Henry's divorce, at which point he broke with Rome and established himself as head of the Church of England. However, Henry's personal religious beliefs remained essentially unchanged and Protestant practices were virtually indistinguishable from the idolatry and tradition of Roman Catholicism. In fact Henry VIII went on to become more and more ungodly. He sent more people to their deaths than any preceding monarch. Henry VIII's lifestyle degenerated into a life of tyranny, injustice, adultery, excess and gluttony. In 1536 Henry began to deteriorate into mental illness, suffering from chronic depression, mood swings and paranoia. Rebellion towards God exacts a heavy penalty without repentance, as the examples of Kings Saul and Nebuchadnezzar prove. (Deuteronomy 28:27-29).

God did bring good out of the selfish agenda of a wicked man, the result is that every person in Britain now has the opportunity to receive the true gospel of Jesus Christ. If Britain is under God's special protection, then all of Protestant Europe is likewise under God's protection, since the Reformation began in Germany, not in Britain. Following Henry VIII, the next person to take the oath was Bloody Mary, a Roman Catholic. Britain has no special covenant with God through the monarch or any oath he/she might swear, this is complete and utter nonsense.

Biblically, covenants with God are always instigated by God Himself, never by mere men.... God repeatedly refers to "my covenant"  (Leviticus 26:42; Jeremiah 33:20-21; Malachi 2:5; Hosea 8:1; Zecharaiah 11:10; Exodus 19:5; Genesis 17:3; Malachi 2:4; Psalm 89:28; Psalm 132:12).

Actually there was one exception: And Jehoiada made a covenant between the Lord and the king and people, that they should be the Lord’s people, and also   between the king and the people. (2 Kings 11:17)... Actually this was a renewal of God's covenant. It was unprecedented and it involved drastic repentance turning away from false idols and the evil practices of Queen Athaliah. Then all the people of the land went to the house of Baal and tore it down; his altars and his images they broke in pieces, and they killed Mattan the priest of Baal before the altars (2 Kings 11:18).

Therefore Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, now that He has died to redeem them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.

It is difficult to see how the Queen can be Defender of the (Protestant) Faith and also a "Princess of the Holy Roman Empire" at the same time! Prison Planet posted a copy of THE OFFICIAL ALMANACH DE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 800-2008 with some additional background information.{5} Since 2008 the original source has been removed.

Below are two excerpts from the lists of monarchies from two separate sources:

Royal Houses and the Holy Roman Empire:

Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
House of Windsor (Saxe-Coburg-Gotha)
King of England, Scotland and Northern Ireland
Prince of the Holy Roman Empire

Elizabeth II Alexandra Mary, Queen of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Philip Mountbatten, Duke of Edinburgh, Prince of Greece and Denmark {6}

The Holy Roman Empire Association

The Imperial Nobility of Great Britain
KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN & NORTHERN IRELAND /
ROYAL HOUSE OF WINDSOR
H.M. Queen Elizabeth The Second of The United Kingdom
of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
(Princess of The Holy Roman Empire )

H.R.H. The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh.
( Prince of The Holy Roman Empire)
{7}

The Holy Roman Empire was a loosely joined union of various kingdoms which held power in much of Europe between 962 and 1806 A.D. The Holy Roman Empire became the "Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation" in 1512, Germany being the dominant member. Critically the Holy Roman Empire was an alliance between the the papacy and the state, with various emperors sanctioned by the Vatican and crowned by the Pope. Martin Luther was the catalyst that brought about eventual change through the Reformation. The stranglehold of the RC Church was considerably weakened, leading to the eventual dissolution of the Holy Roman Empire and the end of the Dark Ages. Since the Holy Roman Empire was dissolved in 1806, one might ask how or why these titles have been given to the monarchy in our particular time, and critically, where their true alliances lie. The Queen's Oath is an expression of adherence to the Protestant faith as against Roman Catholicism after all!

It appears that the monarchy have covered all the bases.. All, that is, except the one that matters!

Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other. (Isaiah 45:22).

Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:11-15).

I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. (Romans 16:17).

{1}  https://uk.pinterest.com/pin/94786767133395270/
{2} http://www.conservapedia.com/English_coronation_oath
{3} https://www.royal.uk/coronation-oath-2-june-1953
{4} http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/people/henry_viii/ 
{5} http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=65254.0
{6} http://www.regno.org/stati/hre_sovereigns.html
{7} http://www.holyromanempireassociation.com/imperial-nobility-of-great-britain.html

4 comments:

Irv said...

Thank you, teacher Treena, for the brief facts-filled and fascinating lesson in British History 101. Am still reeling over the ungodly mixtures that go on these days not only in witches' cauldrons but even up front in "outstanding Christian" circles! What we need, as I see it, is a reformation - or better yet - a decimation of all of the latter-day Laodicean and apostate (and frankly loony) combinations involving ecumenical religion which seem to want to see how close they can get to the fires of hell without getting scorched! If your future elucidations keep captivating me in the same manner, I will eagerly be waiting for the next installments of the same history!

Treena Gisborn said...

Thank you Irv..looney about sums it up. The Oath is clearly a complete mockery which is likely to bring judgement rather than blessing! Trinity Life Church Leicester should give consideration to these things, if they are capable of rational thought that is. God bless.

colin said...

Every time I read the Queen's coronation oath, and her answer "All this I promise to do."
Words utterly fail me!!!

Treena Gisborn said...

Whatever their "religion" is, it is not Christian Colin. God bless.