NEPHILIM NONSENSE? JUSTIN PETERS, JIM OSMAN, DANIEL LONG

Airbnb “Prophets” Compare the Virgin Birth to Alien Encounters: With Justin Peters and Jim Osman

"Charismatic "prophets" Mike Signorelli, Joseph Z, Alan DiDio, and others claim they were called to a secret meeting in the middle of nowhere — phones on airplane mode, assumed identities, the works — to be briefed on coming "alien disclosure" and save the church from deception. But what came out of that meeting may be some of the most blasphemous teachings we've ever covered on this channel, including a direct comparison between the Virgin Birth of Christ and fallen angels having relations with women. Justin Peters and Jim Osman join me to expose the secret meeting, dismantle the bad theology behind the Nephilim/alien hybrid claims, address Joseph Z's failed "prophecy" over Joni Lamb, and explain why none of this — biblically, theologically, or even scientifically — holds up. If you're a former Charismatic trying to think clearly about all the alien talk flooding social media right now, this episode is for you."

The above is the response from Justin Peters, Jim Osman, and Daniel Long to the recent claim that a “secret meeting” occurred in an Airbnb in Tennessee involving Mike Signorelli, Joseph Z, Alan DiDio, and others. In my assessment, their claim was an attempt at self-aggrandisement and clickbait that happened to gain traction. I agree with Justin Peters that, in their foolishness, charismatic NAR “pastors” often attempt to present themselves as possessing superior spiritual knowledge, in this case, insider knowledge on alleged “alien disclosure”. The accumulated failure of charismatic NAR prophets is sufficient to demonstrate that they are neither credible nor reliable sources of spiritual authority. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. (Romans 16:17-18).

Even so, I found several of the remarks made by Justin Peters, Jim Osman, and Daniel Long disappointing. Both Calvinist and Lutheran traditions hold amillennial beliefs that diverge sharply from the scriptural witness and from the eschatology of the early church. Amillennialism remains confined within an Augustinian, Roman‑Catholic inheritance rather than engaging in the whole counsel of God, resulting in an eschatology that is scripturally and historically deficient. (Acts 20:27).

Although I reject DiDio and his associates ' claim of a “secret meeting" it is not impossible that government agencies might share information with certain church leaders. Osman’s categorical assertion that such cooperation would never occur is therefore not especially convincing. One could just as easily ask why Donald Trump includes NAR‑charismatics within his inner circle—an arrangement that many Christians find difficult to make sense of. And if any weight is given to Andy Woods’ testimony, who claims that a government agent approached him in 2024 regarding UFO disclosure.1 

While Peters, Osman, and Long dismiss the prospect of alien disclosure, it is noteworthy that the U.S. Department of War treats the subject with sufficient seriousness to release a growing body of declassified UFO (UAP) documentation.

U.S. Department of War: "In response to President Donald J. Trump’s directive for transparency on U.S. government information regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), the Department of War (DOW), with support from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), is overseeing government wide efforts to expeditiously find, review, identify, declassify and publicly release unresolved UAP-related records and historical documents in the federal government’s possession. This is an unprecedented, historic undertaking that requires coordination between dozens of agencies and the review of tens of millions of records, many existing only on paper, spanning many decades. Given the scope of this task, the Department of War will be releasing new materials on a rolling basis as they are discovered and declassified, with tranches posted every few weeks.."2 

The Gerasene Demoniac discussion

Matthew 8:28–34; Mark 5:1–20; Luke 8:26–39 cf. Matthew 12:43

Osman’s treatment of the Gerasene (Gadarene) narrative is methodologically weak. His question—why the demons did not simply relocate to another host elsewhere in Judea to avoid Jesus—is hypothetical. The popular “demon‑slayer” assertion that demons seek human bodies to gratify their own lusts has no textual foundation. Scripture does not provide a behavioural psychology of demons, and responsible exegesis does not fill those silences with speculative constructions. However, Osman’s corrective claim that demons “do not like to be in an embodied form" is inaccurate according to reliable commentaries on Matthew 12:43. The New Testament’s actual data is limited but consistent: demons harm, degrade, and afflict. Their activity is destructive rather than expressive. (Matthew 9:32–34; Mark 3:20–27; 5:9:14–29). Nothing in these passages indicates that demons pursue embodiment to satisfy their own lustful appetites; rather, the pattern is impairment, torment, and attempted destruction.

If Osman intends to correct doctrinal error, the task requires him to remain within the boundaries of what scripture records rather than constructing hypothetical demon behaviour to fill the explanatory gap. This was a weak and poorly reasoned response from someone presenting himself as a pastor, and it reflects a limited grasp of demonology. His inaccuracies and unfounded assertions place him much closer to those he critiques than he seems to realise. The task is to present what is true in order to correct what is false, not to substitute one set of personal opinions for another.     

Bengel's Gnomon: "Matthew 12:43. Ὅταν, κ.τ.λ., when, etc.) Having rebuked and dismissed the interruption of the Pharisees, Jesus pursues those matters which depend upon Matthew 12:30; cf. Luke 11:23-24.—ἐξέλθῃ, has gone out) as had been said in Matthew 12:29.—διέρχεται, he goeth through) one after another.—ἀνύδρων, without water) Where there is no water, men do not dwell; see Psalm 107:35-36.—ἀναπαύσιν, rest) Rest is wished for by every created being. The devils think that man is their proper resting-place.—οὐχ εὑρίσκει, findeth none) sc. except in man. It is miserable always to seek and never to find it."3

Study Bible: "The unclean spirit's search for rest indicates its desire for a place to inhabit and exert influence. In the cultural context of the time, spirits were believed to seek embodiment to fulfill their purposes."4

Barnes: "Art thou come hither to torment us? ... - By 'the time' here mentioned is meant the day of judgment. The Bible reveals the doctrine that evil spirits are not now bound as they will be after that day; that they are permitted to tempt and afflict people, but that in the day of judgment they also will be condemned to everlasting punishment with all the wicked, 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 1:6. These spirits seemed to be apprised of that, and were alarmed lest the day that they feared had come. They besought him, therefore, not to send them out of that country, not to consign them then to hell, but to put off the day of their final punishment."5 

Barnes: "Seeking rest, and findeth none - These desolate and dry regions are represented as uncomfortable habitations; so much so, that the dissatisfied spirit, better pleased with a dwelling in the bosoms of people, as affording an opportunity of doing evil, seeks a return there."6  

The Nephilim question

Genesis 6:4 presents the contested identification of the “sons of God”, whether as the Sethite line or as angelic beings whose union with human women produced the Nephilim. The evidence is sparse but adequate to justify inquiry into the involvement of fallen angels. The designation Nephilim—“fallen ones”—identifies them as obscure figures tied to the pre‑flood narrative. 

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. (Genesis 6:4).

And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them.” (Numbers 13:33).

The Anakim are identified in Deuteronomy 9:2 and Joshua 11:21–22 as a race of giants, noted for their exceptional size and strength, whose presence in Canaan seriously intimidated the Israelite spies. Their association with the Nephilim suggests a formidable lineage. Archaeological and textual indications place the Anakim in the hill country of Hebron, a strategically significant and fertile region. I am not dogmatic on the matter, but I see no difficulty in understanding the Anakim as literal hybrids rather than merely human“men of renown”. The Old Testament contains sufficient references to the physical disimilarities between the giants and other populations to render this interpretation credible—for example, Goliath (1 Samuel 17:4; 2 Samuel 21:19), his brothers Lahmi, Ishbi‑Benob, Saph, and the six‑fingered giant (1 Chronicles 20:5; 2 Samuel 21:16, 18, 20), as well as Og king of Bashan (Deuteronomy 3:11). Viewed this way, the Old Testament's depiction of Canaan's inhabitants makes the severity of the genocidal conquest commands more intelligible. (Deuteronomy 20:16-17). It also makes sense of Jude 1:6 and the connection with Sodom and Gomorrah and the pre-flood narrative, which is replicated in the days leading up to the Parousia. (Luke 17:26). 

Regarding the argument that when God created everything "after its kind" in Genesis 1:25. This is a descriptive narrative of creation, not a violation of it. The existence of a divine design does not preclude transgression of that design.

The appeal to Matthew 22:30 ("angels do not marry nor are given in marriage”) does not resolve the question of Genesis 6, because the two passages address different categories and different contexts.

Contextual Scope of Matthew 22:30 > Jesus’ statement concerns the marital status of resurrected humans and uses angels as a comparative model. The passage is not intended as an ontological description of angelic capacities but as a functional description of their heavenly mode of existence.

Heavenly Angels vs. Fallen Angels > Matthew 22:30 refers specifically to angels “in heaven”. Genesis 6 and Jude 6 describe angels who “did not keep their own domain”. The texts therefore concern different angelic states, and conclusions drawn from one cannot be automatically transferred to the other.

Marriage vs. Procreation > The argument assumes that the inability to marry entails the inability to procreate. This is a category error. The text states that angels do not marry; it does not state that they lack the capacity to assume physical form capable of biological interaction.

Embodiment in the Old Testament > Multiple Old Testament narratives depict angels taking embodied form indistinguishable from human males. (Genesis 18–19). These accounts demonstrate that angels can assume physicality with functional human characteristics.

Second Temple Interpretation > Jewish literature of the Second Temple period—including 1 Enoch, Jubilees, Philo, and Josephus—consistently interpreted Genesis 6 as referring to angelic beings. This indicates that Matthew 22:30 was not understood as contradicting that reading.

Jude 6–7 and Boundary Violation > Jude links the sin of the angels to Sodom’s pursuit of “strange flesh”, suggesting a transgression involving sexual boundaries. This intertextual connection supports the reading that Genesis 6 involves an illicit crossing of created categories

Justin Peters and his colleagues' abrupt dismissal of the substantial body of material concerning Nephilim hybrids simply exposes their predisposition to reject anything that even marginally challenges their established worldview. I do, of course, agree that none of this is vaguely relevant to the incarnation of Jesus Christ.

In conclusion, scripture indicates that the closing phase of this age will involve spiritual deception on a scale without precedent. The exact form this deception will take is not disclosed, but it would be unwarranted to dismiss unusual claims outright. The Antichrist will present a counterfeit resurrection, and God Himself will send a strong delusion. Because biblical prophecy is interpreted literally throughout scripture, Revelation should not be treated as an exception. Within that eschatological framework, the range of possible end‑time manifestations should not be reduced or denied through allegorisation. Jesus issued a specific warning so that believers would not be caught off guard: “See, I have told you beforehand.” (Matthew 24:25).

The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie, in order that judgment may come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness. (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12).

Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived. And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666. (Revelation 13:11-18).  

1. Worried About UFOs And Aliens? Watch This!

2. Presidential Unsealing and Reporting System for UAP Encounters | U.S. Department of War
3. Matthew 12:43 Commentaries: "Now when the unclean spirit goes out of a man, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and does not find it.
4. Matthew 12:43 Study Bible: But the unclean spirit, when he is gone out of the person, passes through waterless places, seeking rest, and does not find it.
5. Matthew 8:29 Commentaries: And they cried out, saying, "What business do we have with each other, Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?"
6. Matthew 12:43 Commentaries: "Now when the unclean spirit goes out of a man, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and does not find it.