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Monday 9 January 2023

LEE BRAINARD'S PHONY TRANSLATION OF EUSEBIUS DOES NOT PROVE THE PRE-TRIB RAPTURE!

(38) The PRE-TRIB RAPTURE According to EUSEBIUS | Guest: Lee Brainard - YouTube

The pre-trib camp has been desperate to find confirmation of a pre-tribulation rapture amongst the Church Fathers for many years, but despite all their efforts, they have failed to do so. 

Brainard is not the trailblazer or the Greek expert he claims to be in this interview with Lamb and Lion Ministries. Brainard: "I have uncovered passages in Eusebius that were unknown to the evangelical world." Unless evangelical scholars live in a bubble, they will be aware of Eusebius. Author and historian Roger Pearse published the first-ever translation of Eusebius into English in 2017. This translation includes the Greek text printed in the Sources Chrétiennes edition, and also fragments of the Greek, Latin, Syriac, Coptic and Arabic versions in medieval bible commentaries. Alex Poulos' translation (published by Pearse) differs from Brainard's translation.

Alex Poulos' translation

“And just as happened in the days of Noah…” (Lk. 17:26)

As was stated,[1] he says that the destruction of the wicked will take place like it did for those who lived at the time of the flood, since the message of the gospel had been driven out due to their apostasy. Indeed, just as he destroyed all people then, except those who had gone with Noah into the ark, so too at his coming he will shut out and destroy as in the days of Noah the ungodly and unfaithful, who waste their time on luxury, sex, drink, and the pleasures of this life.

So that no one would think these too will perish through water, he needed also to use the example of Lot— “Just as it happened in the days of Lot: ‘they were eating, drinking etc.’ but on the day that Lot left Sodom, he rained fire from heaven and destroyed everyone. It will be the same on the day when the Son of Man is revealed.” He thereby teaches that unspeakably terrible wrath will come upon all the wicked as fire and brimstone sent from heaven. Thus, the word of the prophet is extended to the wicked who pray for that day to come— “Woe to you who desire the day of the Lord!” Why? “it will be darkness to you, and not light; a day of darkness and shadow, a day of dispair and disgrace” (Amos 5:18). The Savior was extremely precise in his observation when he said that the divine fire from heaven did not come down upon the wicked in Sodom until Lot went out and was separated from them. It was the same way at the flood, when he came and destroyed all the inhabitants of the earth only after Noah had entered the ark. [24.585] He says that it will be the same at the end of the age: the cataclysm of destruction for the wicked will not occur until those men found to belong to God are gathered into the heavenly ark, in accordance with the example of Noah. To these this word of the prophet will be spoken: “Go, my people, enter into your inner room… until the wrath of the Lord passes by” (Is. 26:20). Now just as in the time of Lot he acted so that the righteous did not perish along with the wicked, so at the end of age this destruction will not take place until all the righteous and God-fearing men on the earth are separated from the wicked and gathered into God’s heavenly ark. So when no righteous man can any longer be found among men, but all are godless, impious, and born from the antichrist and apostasy rules throughout the whole world, then the wrath of God will come upon the wicked. {1} 

Pearse's publication confirms the prewrath rapture position. Eusebius refers to the righteous being taken (raptured) immediately before the wrath of God falls upon the unrighteous at the end of the great tribulation. (Matthew 24:21-22,30-31). In other words, the rapture will occur between the sixth and seventh seal of Revelation. (Revelation 6:17). 

Lee Brainard's translation

As all perished then except those gathered with Noah in the ark, so also at his coming, the ungodly in the season of apostasy shall perish, while according to the pattern of Noah, all the righteous and godly are to be separated from the ungodly and gathered into the heavenly ark. For in this way comes a time when not even one righteous man will be found any more amongst mankind, and when all the ungodly have been made atheists by the Antichrist, and the whole world is overcome by apostasy the wrath of God shall come upon the ungodly. {2} 

Brainard: "So, you notice the order here. First, the righteous are removed from the presence of the ungodly and taken to the heavenly ark. And then there’s a season of apostasy down here on earth where not even one righteous man is going to be found, and the Antichrist is going to take all the ungodly and make them all perfect atheists, and then the wrath of God will come at the Second Coming." {2}

Regarding Brainard's "original" translation of Eusebius' commentary on Isaiah 43:5-6: Eusebius' commentary on Isaiah was translated into English by Jonathan J Armstrong in 2013. {3} Jonathan J Armstrong (Ph.D., Fordham University) is assistant professor of Bible and theology at Moody Bible Institute - Spokane, Washington. {4}

Pseudo Ephraim (Ephrem the Syrian) is another example of Brainard's duplicity! Please refer to Dave MacPherson's article on this subject written in 2017: WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: PSEUDO-EPHRAEM TAUGHT PRETRIB - NOT! BY DAVE MACPHERSON (bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com)

Brainard's claim that he is doing original research is patently untrue - he is certainly no "Indiana Jones". Furthermore, Brainard is either incompetent or unwilling to give an accurate interpretation of Eusebius and Pseudo Ephraim. Neither of these sources teach a pre-tribulation rapture.

Alan Kurschner: "Every early church father who wrote on this topic believed that the church would face the Antichrist.. It is common knowledge that the church fathers used terms like 'the tribulation' or 'the great tribulation' to refer to God's wrath. Yet can you provide a single instance where Ephraim or an early writer claimed that the church will be raptured before the Antichrist arrives?" {5}

Dear friends, do not believe everyone who claims to speak by the Spirit. You must test them to see if the spirit they have comes from God. For there are many false prophets in the world. (1 John 4:1 cf. Ephesians 4:25).

1. Eusebius of Caesarea, Commentary on Luke – now online in English – Roger Pearse (roger-pearse.com)
2. The Pre-Trib Rapture According to Eusebius with Lee Brainard | Rapture | Lamb and Lion Ministries (christinprophecy.org)
3. Fourth Century Christianity » Eusebius of Caesarea – Commentary on Isaiah4. Jonathan J. Armstrong - InterVarsity Press (ivpress.com)
4. Jonathan J. Armstrong - InterVarsity Press (ivpress.com)5. A Reply to Lee W. Brainard | ESCHATOS MINISTRIES (alankurschner.com)
5. Bible Prophecy Daily™ on Twitter: "@soothkeep It is common knowledge that the church fathers used terms like "the tribulation" or "the great tribulation" to refer to God's wrath. Yet can you provide a single instance where Ephraim or an early writer claimed that the church will be raptured before the Antichrist arrives?" / Twitter

Friday 30 December 2022

JAN MARKELL AND FRIENDS: WHEN THE PRE-TRIB RAPTURE FAILS

 (23) Jan Markell 🔥 SHOCKING PROPHECY 2022 🔥 When Your Church Awakens to Wokeness - YouTube

Above: Jan Markell and Brandon Holthaus discuss how to find a sound church in the wake of wokeness and many other heresies currently overtaking the churches. It appears that finding a good church is a significant problem for Christians today whatever their location. Holthaus maintains that travelling many miles to a sound church is an option that should not be rejected. That is a solution for some perhaps, although it does exclude the sick, the elderly, those without transport and the poor. I also think that families with young children would struggle with this option. In other words, the marginalized people that Jesus particularly cares for are excluded. My own view is that believers should try to meet locally, although I know from personal experience that this can be difficult. (Matthew 18:20).

I am particularly concerned that Jan and her friends are more fixed on the pre-trib rapture than ever. They believe that the pre-trib rapture will happen very soon as we see globalism increasing exponentially. I am cautious, but I agree that it appears that we are not very far from the 70th week of Daniel i.e. the period pre-tribbers refer to as "the tribulation"

The pre-trib view maintains that believers will be raptured before the onset of the 70th week of Daniel. The markers that identify the beginning of the 70th week are the "strong covenant" the Antichrist makes or confirms with many, and the construction of the third temple in conjunction with the reinstitution of the temple sacrifices. (Daniel 9:27). My hope is that when these things happen, pre-trib believers will prepare themselves for the Antichrist's persecution. (Matthew 24:15; Revelation 12:17). I can understand why Jan and others reject the flawed post-trib view i.e. the view that the rapture will occur at the end of the 70th week of Daniel. Teachers like Joe Schimmel (Left Behind or Led Astray) have correctly identified the weaknesses of the pre-trib view, but they have failed to address the flaws in their own post-trib view. {1} It is tragic that Schimmel and others are unwilling to apply the same hermeneutical principles they have employed in opposing pre-trib to themselves. Schimmel's credibility ultimately depends upon his ability to demonstrate the soundness of his own view. (1 John 4:1).

Having studied the prewrath position extensively, I believe that this view comprehensively addresses the problems associated with other views. My prayer is that believers will take the time to give this position serious consideration. I recommend the documentary below produced by Alan Kurschner and produced/directed by Chris White.  

 

I have raised my eyebrows at one or two of Jan's guests:

Prophecy teacher Don Stewart (Calvary Chapel) should have been disqualified from the ministry years ago! His adultery was swept under the carpet in 2011 and he has continued in "ministry" ever since!  {2} 
Jack Hibbs shares a platform with Don Stewart and he has endorsed NAR leader Che Ahn. {3} 
These are two teachers that I cannot bring myself to watch. (1 Corinthians 5:6,11).


Jan might be oblivious to the compromise of some of her guests, but we can be sure that God does not overlook these things. (Romans 2:6-10).

1. Articles for Posttribulationism to Consider | ESCHATOS MINISTRIES (alankurschner.com)
2. Scattered Sheep: January 20, 2012 Show: My Perspective on Don Stewart (scatteredsheepreport.blogspot.com)
3. (23) Jack Hibbs Endorses NAR Che Ahn l HR1154 "Conspir@cy The0rists" bill l Temple on earth @ FOT timing - YouTube

Thursday 17 November 2022

BILL SALUS # JOEL ROSENBERG # ANDY WOODS: PROPHETIC EISEGESIS

Two major players within the pre-trib camp are Mark Hitchcock and Andy Woods. Woods recently debunked various speculations regarding alleged unfulfilled "Now/Next" Old Testament prophecies in his series The Middle East Meltdown. Woods' main source is Mark Hitchcock's book Showdown with Iran Appendix 1 and 2, in which he explains why certain Old Testament prophecies, specifically: Elam (Jeremiah 49:34-39; Ezekiel 32:24-25); Damascus (Isaiah 17:1-2; Jeremiah 49:23-27) and Psalm 83 are not futuristic prophecies. Woods took a deep dive into this subject and he delivered a stinging rebuttal against various "prophecy experts" including Bill Salus and Joel Rosenberg, who for the most part have been left unchecked in their bid to sell their wares to the Body of Christ. (2 Corinthians 2:17).

Unfortunately, Hitchock and Woods have so far missed the elephant in the room, namely, the false hope of a pre-tribulation rapture. It is a constant source of amazement to me that intelligent bible scholars believe in and support the pre-trib rapture. Thankfully a number of believers are now ditching the pre-trib theory in favour of the prewrath position. {1} Additionally, their alleged timing of the Gog/Magog war in Ezekiel 38 and 39 has serious issues. The reference to "unwalled villages" in Ezekiel 38:10 is highly problematic when applied to our own time period. It makes much more sense to take these chapters literally together with Revelation 20:7-10 i.e. this prophecy will be fulfilled at the end of the millennium as the scriptures indicate. Woods' promotion of the obscure "two-phase theory" regarding Ezekiel 38 and 39, including a bizarre connection to Ronald Reagan, is not supported by any other bible scholar. {2}

Woods' critique of the "Now/Next prophecies" is summarized below.


Summary: 

Jeremiah 49:34-38 refers to Elam (Persia/Iran) and was fulfilled in the 6th century BC by Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon.
Jeremiah 49:39 is eschatological.
Ezekiel 32:24-25 is a lament concerning Pharoah king of Egypt ~ Pharaoh will go down to the pit (the depths of the earth/Sheol) where he will see Assyria, Elam, Meshech and Tubal, Edom, and the Sidonians. The destruction of Egypt was fulfilled in 663 and 571 BC.


Summary: 

Isaiah 17:1-2 is the oracle concerning the destruction of Damascus in Syria. This prophecy was fulfilled in 732 BC by Tilgath-Pilneser, the king of the neo-Assyrian empire. The fulfillment of this prophecy is described in Isaiah 37:36 and 2 Kings 19:35.

Debunked: Rosenberg's claim that Isaiah's prophecy against Damascus was given to him in 715 BC. In the year that King Ahaz died came this oracle: ( Isaiah 14:28-32). The oracle that Rosenberg refers to is limited to Philistia; it does not refer to Damascus, or to any other of the nations listed in Isaiah's oracles against the nations. (Isaiah 13-23). 


Summary:

Jeremiah 49:23-27 was written about a hundred years after Isaiah and it should not be regarded as the same prophecy as Isaiah 17:1-2. The evidence: And I will kindle a fire in the wall of Damascus, and it shall devour the strongholds of Ben-hadad. (Jeremiah 49:27). "The fortresses of Ben-Hadad ('Ben-Hadad' lit., 'son of [the god] Hadad') was the name of the dynasty that ruled Damascus in the ninth and eighth centuries. (cf. 1 Kings 15:18,20; 20:1-34; 2 Kings 6:24;8:7; 13:3,24..)"  It is likely that this prophecy was fulfilled during the reign of King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon when he conquered Aram or Syria. The dominant aggressor in the passages surrounding Jeremiah 49:23-27 is King Nebuchadnezzar: Jeremiah 46:1,13,25-26 The word of the LORD that came to Jeremiah the prophet concerning the nations. (plural) beginning with Egypt. The army of Pharaoh Neco was defeated by Nebuchadnezzar in the fourth year of Jehoiakim. Jeremiah 49:28-33: Nebuchadnezzar's defeat of Kedar and Hazor immediately follows the judgement on Damascus in Jeremiah 49:23-27. 


Summary:

Psalm 83 is Asaph's imprecatory prayer against Israel's enemies in 950 BC, it is not a prophecy. No war or battle is found in Psalm 83. Other imprecatory prayers are not prophetic. 

The Response from Bill Salus and Mondo Gonzales (Prophecy Watchers)

(3) The Isaiah 17 Misconception | Bill Salus - YouTube
(3) Prophecy Update | Why Jeremiah’s Iran Prophecy is Unfulfilled - YouTube
Are Jeremiah 49:34-39 and Ezekiel 38 the same event? What about Psalm 83? (prophecydepotministries.net)

In the above videos Salus advises his audience to be Bereans. In fact that is precisely what Hitchock and Woods have facilitated, and in my view, they have demonstrated beyond all reasonable doubt that these things are not so. (Acts 17:11 cf. 1 John 1:4). My own independent studies agree with the research done by Hitchock, and on this occasion Woods has done the Body of Christ a service in exposing these questionable speculations. (Ephesians 5:11). {3} Nevertheless his pre-trib eisegesis is a deplorable misapplication of God's word. There is no doubt in my mind that the "Now/Next prophecies" are contrived, and that Salus and others have taken advantage of the inherent complexities within certain Old Testament passages in order to manipulate them to their own advantage. (2 Corinthians 4:2). 

Mondo Gonzalez misapplies the meaning of "adding or taking away from the word of God" (Deuteronomy 4:2; Revelation 22:18-19). Gonzales: "Having a different interpretation of these prophecies is not adding to the word of God.. That's a pretty serious slanderous label simply to put on somebody, and to say that because they disagree, all of a sudden they are adding to the word."  Salus and Gonzalez claim that the discussion centers around "differences of opinion" and they object that the accusations of "adding to the word of God" does not have a place within "brotherly dialogue". There is a vast difference between friendly disagreements/discussions about minor details and serious objections about teachers who distort or falsify the word of God. Such distortions do add to the word of God. A further warning in the New Testament is not to go beyond what is written. (1 Corinthians 4:6). Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary puts it very well: "Revere the silence of Holy Writ, as much as its declarations: so you will less dogmatize on what is not expressly revealed (De 29:29)." {4} 

Problematically, and despite their denials, Salus' and Rosenberg's so-called "opinions" are reckless speculations based on newspaper exegesis. These men sell a lot of materials, they attract many viewers, and they fill conference seats. Ironically they themselves fulfill bible prophecy: For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions.. (2 Timothy 4:3).

Gonzalez referred to Dwight Pentecost as a credible example of a scholar who believed that Jeremiah 49:23-27, 34-39 and Isaiah 17 were future prophecies that would happen during "the tribulation". Pre-trib teachers constantly make the error of referring to the first half of the 70th week of Daniel as "the tribulation". {5} Dwight Pentecost was a pre-trib scholar whose contradictory understanding of eschatology has been exposed in a PDF by Doug Eigsti. {6} 

I know that Arnold Fruchtenbaum is a very well-respected scholar within the pre-trib camp. It is worth noting however that he attends and supports the ecumenical Lausanne Movement. I did publish a link in a previous post verifying this, but I have noticed that it has been removed. {7} *I have added a link at the end of this post regarding Fruchtenbaum's blatant inaccuracies. 

As far as I can ascertain, John Walvoord did not support a future fulfillment concerning Elam in Jeremiah 49:34-38. He simply mentioned this passage in connection with other miscellaneous Old Testament prophecies. Walvoord: "The more extended prophecies as found in Isaiah 17:1-14 and Jeremiah 49:23-27 have all been fulfilled as well as the occasional references found in Isaiah 7:8; 8:4; Amos 1:3-5; 3:12; 5:27..  A brief prophecy concerning Kedar and Hazor is contained in Jeremiah 49:28-33. It is a prediction of judgment upon them at the hands of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon. A similar judgment is pronounced upon Elam in Jeremiah 49:34-38.{8}  

Arno Gaebelein: "The final prediction is as to Elam. Elam was east of South Babylonia and the lower Tigris, later known as Susians. This prophecy was given at the beginning of Zedekiah’s reign. Elam became an ally of the Persian kingdom. Here her overthrow is foretold as well as her restoration 'in the latter days.'" {9} It appears to me that this quote from Gaebelein is ambiguous i.e. it is not clear to me that Gaebelein's intention was to include the overthrow and the restoration of Elam in "the latter days". Interestingly, Gaebelein viewed the Gog/Magog war as a millennial event: "The invasion will happen some time after the beastly empire with its beast head, the revived Roman empire, in its final ten kingdom form and the clay, with the little horn as leader Daniel 7:1-28; Revelation 13:1-18 and the false prophet, the personal Antichrist Revelation 13:11, etc. have been dealt with in judgment Revelation 19:19-21."  {10} 

Both Salus and Gonzales claim that the "Now/Next prophecies" are not dogmatic. Really!  Woods gave some clear examples of Rosenberg's dogmatic position in his series The Middle East Meltdown and I will not repeat them here. Below are two examples of Salus' dogmatism: 

The back cover of Salus' book The Next Prophecies: "The NEXT PROPHECIES will happen soon after The NOW PROPHECIES and the stage is presently being set for their fulfillment!" {11}

The back cover of Salus' book The Now PropheciesThe NOW Prophecies book identifies the biblical prophecies that were written centuries ago for THIS GENERATION! {12} 

In my view, the Now/Next prophecy teachers are not so very far removed from the false prophets of the NAR Movement and we should mark and avoid them. (Romans 16:17-18 cf. 1 Timothy 1:4; 2 Timothy 2:23; 2 Corinthians 2:17; 2 Peter 3:16). Salus promotes his speculations through apostate channels like TBN, God TV and Daystar. Tragically, Prophecy Watchers is not much better; their shameless merchandising does not provide a credible witness for Jesus Christ and their promotion of false teachers like Jonathan Cahn etc is highly questionable. In light of this, it is not unreasonable to ask the question: Who are these men really serving? (Matthew 6:24).

Hitchcock's research is compelling and it leaves Salus, Rosenberg et al in a very difficult position. (2 Peter 2:1). The "Now/Next prophecies" are based either on very poor exegesis or they are deliberate misapplications of the scriptures. (1 Timothy 1:4; 2 Timothy 2:23). In either case, these individuals have no business teaching the word of God. (James 3:1). The fact that there is a serious disagreement within the pre-trib camp concerning these passages is a significant development, and hopefully these problems will encourage more believers to test the spirits. (1 John 4:1).

1. Pastor: From Pre-Trib to Pre-Wrath | ESCHATOS MINISTRIES (alankurschner.com)
2. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: ANDY WOODS: GOG MAGOG TWO-PHASE VIEW (bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com)
2. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: ANDY WOODS: RONALD REAGAN'S GOG MAGOG VIEW (bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com)
3. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: BILL SALUS: GOG MAGOG DANGEROUS SPECULATIONS (bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com)
4. 1 Corinthians 4 Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary (biblehub.com)
5. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: THE SEVEN YEAR TRIBULATION FALLACY (bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com)
6. Microsoft Word - Imminency versus Prophecy 3.7.doc (alankurschner.com)
7. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: BILL SALUS: IS PSALM 83 PROPHETIC? (bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com)
7. Lausanne Occasional Paper: Jewish Evangelism: A Call to the Church - Lausanne Movement
7. Evangelism / Apologetics where has it gone - UK Aplogetics Library (ukapologeticslibrary.net)
8. Chapter XV The Nations In The Millennium And The Eternal State | Walvoord.com
9. Jeremiah 49 Gaebelein's Annotated Bible (biblehub.com)
10. Ezekiel 38 Gaebelein's Annotated Bible (biblehub.com)
11. The Next Prophecies: Amazon.co.uk: Salus, Bill: 9780692176177: Books
12. The Now Prophecies: Amazon.co.uk: Salus, Bill: 9780988726079: Books


* Arnold Fruchtenbaum Archives | ESCHATOS MINISTRIES (alankurschner.com)

Thursday 25 August 2022

JOE SCHIMMEL: BELIEVERS INCOMPLETE AFTER THE RESURRECTION? NOW I AM REALLY CONCERNED!

(5) Rev Series: Three Trees and a River - YouTube

Over the years I have been encouraged by Joe Schimmel (Blessed Hope Chapel) due to his stance against OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved), Calvinism, Ecumenism etc. However, I have always had issues with his post-tribulation rapture position. More recently, these issues have begun to bleed into other areas and my concerns have escalated. 

A few months ago, Schimmel was heading in the same disastrous direction as false teacher Joel Richardson and the unbiblical view that Gog is the Antichrist. I anticipated that Schimmel would persist with this nonsense after his initial video on the 22nd of March and I wrote a couple of posts debunking this view. {1} Schimmel followed up this false teaching on the 3rd of April with a further video about the alleged Gog/Magog battle. It should concern believers that this error remains online and uncorrected on Schimmel's YouTube channel.

In addition, Schimmel has made no attempt to justify his use of Victorinus as a valid source for his faulty view of the eisegetical recapitulation view of the trumpet and bowl judgements in the book of Revelation. {2} Many believers have realized that the prewrath rapture view is more coherent than the pre-rib and post-trib views. Those who persist in teaching the concurrent/recapitulation theory willfully ignore the obvious problems associated with this view.

The leaves of the tree for the healing of the nations..

Schimmel: "I have told you, the book of Revelation is kinda like the back of my hand. I know this book by the grace of God really good. If you ask me just about any verse in the book of Revelation, pretty much any verse, I am able to give you, I believe, a very good biblical explanation."  Really! Essentially Schimmel has mistaught the book of Revelation for years regarding the recapitulation of the sixth seal, the seventh trumpet and the seventh bowl. This particular error throws the whole book of Revelation out of kilter! Schimmel admits that he has never understood Revelation 22:2 despite his professed expertise in exegeting the book of Revelation. Revelation 22:1-2 and its parallel in Ezekiel 47:12 describe the millennial river, not the eternal state as Schimmel submits. (See also Joel 3:18 and Zechariah 14:8). 

Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb. through the middle of the street of the city; also, on either side of the river, the tree of life with its twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit each month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Revelation 22:1-2).

Along both banks of the river, fruit trees of all kinds will grow. Their leaves will not wither, and their fruit will not fail. Each month they will bear fruit, because the water from the sanctuary flows to them. Their fruit will be used for food and their leaves for healing. (Ezekiel 47:12).

Schimmel: "Why are the leaves for the healing of the nations when everybody has already been resurrected? You are already in the Lake of Fire or resurrected, and when Jesus talks about the resurrection, there is no more death. And why is the tree of life there for the healing of the nations? How are the nations being healed? 

A couple of mornings ago I woke up just after 4am and this scripture was on my heart and I began to seek to Lord on it and cry out to Him.. and pray.. And it is really interesting, I felt I got some insight on this..  and then I began to cry .. I was just so grateful because I saw so much beauty that I hadn't seen in New Jerusalem as a result of those prayers.."  

Schimmel's latest dubious suggestion: Believers are somehow incomplete after they are resurrected during the millennium! (1:00:00 mark).

I have noticed that Schimmel uses a similar technique as many false teachers in that he diverts our attention back and forth and intersperses all kinds of unrelated stories and personal experiences into his teaching. This is quite disarming and throws his hearers off track. Schimmel eventually gets back on track and drops the bombshell! (1:31:00 mark)

Schimmel: "We have been healed physically when we get resurrected bodies, but even when we are resurrected we are still not home yet. We are still not home. Now we are with Jesus at one point when we are resurrected Amen, but we are not in New Jerusalem until after the thousand-year millennial period right? Then there is a new heaven and a new earth. Total healing I believe comes (won't we be healed fully - absolutely) but we will still be lacking something. Total and absolute intimacy with the Father and the Son in New Jerusalem will not take place until it happens in New Jerusalem and God designed us to partake of the tree of life..  And if we are not partaking of the tree of life and the leaves, we don't have all that God had ordained for us. It is not until we have all that He has ordained for us that we have; we have total peace, but guess what, there is grace beyond grace and I believe that comes from partaking of the tree of life and the healing that comes from the leaves.." 

This is the stuff of heresy.. or at the very least it is how heresy begins! Schimmel has based his eisegetical assumptions on various alleged "insights" and "emotions".

What do the scriptures say?

Putting aside Schimmel's supposed direct personal revelation, it is vital that we actually test what he is teaching against the scriptures. (1 John 1:4).

When we are resurrected, we are not "with Jesus at one point", we will always be with the Lord.

Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. (1 Thessalonians 4:17).

..but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is. (1 John 3:2).

The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Revelation 22:2).

God's people are never referred to as "the nations". Strongs: "Nations (ἐθνῶν) as distinct from the true Israel of God." (Galatians 6:16). {3} Revelation 22:2 refers to unresurrected people during the millennium who will receive healing from the leaves of the tree, with the caveat "to the thirsty". (Revelation 21:6-7). 

Alan Kurschner's view that the bride of Christ will come back within the new Jerusalem before the millennium does provide a cogent answer to this question. The prewrath view teaches that Christ will take believers before the Father (Revelation 7 and 14). Kurschner ties in John 14: I go to prepare a place for you and Revelation 21:10 which describes the New Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God and coalescing with the earth. According to Kurschner, this happens before the millennium. Revelation 20:7-10 describes the events that happen at the end of the thousand years i.e. the Gog/Magog battle and the destruction of Satan. After these events, God's judgement is extended globally. (Revelation 20:11-15). Revelation 22 and 23 revert back again to the millennial period. As Kurschner points out, the leaves for the healing of the nations makes no sense when applied to the eternal state. The context necessitates that we view this passage as applicable to the millennium when the nations will need healing. This passage does not apply to the residents of the New Jerusalem. Revelation 22:14-15 specifically identifies those outside the city: But outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. This verse is highly problematic for those who believe that the New Jerusalem will descend at the end of the millennium since it cannot possibly refer to the eternal state. The lesson here is that we should be wary when making assumptions about the chronology of the book of Revelation. I suggest that readers of this post take a little time to listen to Kurschner on this fascinating question: (1) The Bride Comes with the New Jerusalem BEFORE the Millennium - YouTube

New Jerusalem - our mother?

Schimmel proceeds to push the envelope even further: "Do you know that you have a Father and a Mother in heaven? I am talking about Jerusalem the city. It is called a bride.." (1:37:40 mark )

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. (Revelation 22:1-3).

If we accept Kurschner's view, the bride of Christ within the New Jerusalem will descend before the millennium, hence the expression "as a bride".
 
But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. (Galatians 4:26).

Schimmel does not teach Galatians 4:26 in its proper context. Paul teaches that Sarah and Hagar are allegorical depictions of the two covenants. Hagar represents Mount Sinai in Arabia which Paul compares with the present Jerusalem in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem above is free and represents the freedom that there is in Christ. These cities are "mothers" in the sense that they are locations and have citizens. Mike Winger explains in the video below that we might refer to "mother Russia" in similar terms. If we take the New Jerusalem above as our literal mother we have gone beyond allegory and we are in danger of straying into dangerous heresy. An extreme example of this is The World Mission Society Church of God cult (WMSCOG) who take Galatians 4:26 as a key proof text for their "Mother God" heresy.

Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar. Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia; she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. (Galatians 4 24-26).

I highly recommend the following video on Mike Winger's YouTube channel. Winger tackles Galatians 4:26 in context towards the end of the video at the 1:48:00 mark when he is asked: "How do WMSCOG members interpret Galatians 4:26, and how can we respond to that verse, offering them an explanation of its proper context?" (1) The Secret History of the Fast Growing “Mother God” Cult (with NEW info I've never shared before) - YouTube  

Despite his boast, Schimmel is not the expert he claims to be and his understanding of the book of Revelation is very much wanting. He is definitely not the go-to person for a sound eschatological perspective.  

This paragraph has nothing to do with the eschatological issues above, but I think it needs to be said. While all the funny stories about Schimmel's grandchildren were superficially entertaining and diverting, it didn't seem to have occurred to anyone in the chat replay that there was something lacking in his care for them. One child was chasing the others around the trampoline with a rubber donkey, an item that is not permitted on a trampoline. This behaviour caused another child to dive off the trampoline and land on her head resulting in a mild concussion. Even though she was sleepy and nauseous, Schimmel didn't bother to seek medical help for her. One of the boys was shooting arrows with metal tips and inadvertently caught another boy on his head, and another boy attempted to start a fire while Schimmel was in his office! Am I the only person who came to the conclusion that Schimmel was not adequately supervising the children in his care? It is not enough to say "do not fire metal arrows" or "do not light fires" etc. There should be a responsible adult present to make sure that young children are safe. I am surprised that nothing more serious happened to any of the children supposedly in his care. After hearing this account I would not entrust a child of mine into Schimmel's care. 

1. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: JOE SCHIMMEL: GOG MAGOG ISLAMIC ANTICHRIST ARMAGEDDON (bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com)
1. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: JOE SCHIMMEL GOG MAGOG ARMAGEDDON AND ISLAM (bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com)

Friday 24 June 2022

LEE BRAINARD'S DESPERATE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST THE PREWRATH RAPTURE

(4) The Source of the Pre-Wrath Rapture | Lee Brainard - YouTube

In an attempt to distance the pre-trib rapture from the vision of 15-year-old Margaret MacDonald, Lee Brainard informs us in this video that John Nelson Darby rejected her end-time vision. It is true that John Nelson Darby and Benjamin Wills Newton of the Plymouth Brethren came to the conclusion that Margaret's visions were demonic. I do not think there is any disagreement on that score as this information is well documented. However, Brainard failed to mention that Edward Irving (1792-1834) played a pivotal role in this story. Edward Irving and his controversial sect known as the "Irvingites" (the Catholic Apostolic Church), were precursors of the later Pentecostal and Charismatic movements. Irving accepted Margaret MacDonald's vision and claimed her as one of their own prophetesses.

David Malcolm Bennet: "..with regard to the adoption of a two-stage return of Christ, the first being associated with a pretribulation rapture of the saints. Irving taught something similar to it in March 1830, and at least some in the CAC seem to have adopted a pretribulation rapture by September that year. Darby and other members of the Brethren do not seem to have accepted it until later. Darby, himself, probably did not adopt this teaching until after December 1831,[26] so later than the CAC and, thus, presumably later than Irving." {1}

Whilst it cannot be definitively proved that Margaret MacDonald was the source for Darby’s concept of a pretribulation rapture, her vision seems to be the catalyst for his ideas. Samuel Prideaux Tregelles alleged that the pre-trib concept was taken from one of the charismatic utterances in Edward Irving's church. Tregelles regarded these utterances as "pretending to be from God", and he implied that Darby's rapture teaching was from a demonic source. 

Dave MacPherson: "For several decades some pretrib leaders have deceitfully isolated Margaret Macdonald's posttrib-resembling statement 'The trial of the Church is from Antichrist' to try to establish that she was posttrib. I have in mind leaders like R. A. Huebner, Charles Ryrie, Thomas Ice, and Frank Marotta. The same prophecy teachers are among those who've covered up the fact that partial rapturism----Margaret's view----sees a pretrib rapture of PART of the church while also seeing the REST of the church enduring a future tribulation..
Professor Ryrie wonders how Margaret can declare that 'the trial of the Church is from Antichrist' (lines 85-86) and speak of 'the fiery trial which is to try us' (line 65) if the Church will 'be caught up' before Antichrist arrives (lines 39-40). Apparently he's unaware of the terminology used by Partial Rapturists. 
{2} 

It appears that Darby, who was a renowned cult leader and a bully, jumped onto the Irvingite bandwagon and claimed the (questionable) glory for the pre-trib rapture doctrine in the late 1830s. Dave MacPherson: "Darby was posttrib from 1827 through 1838 and he had no clear pretrib teaching before 1839 - nine years after Irving and his group had begun the clear teaching of it." {3}

The prewrath position that the church will encounter the Antichrist is taken from the scriptures and from the early church fathers. I know of no prewrath teacher or scholar that endorses Margaret MacDonald's vision.  Prewrath does not teach a "secret rapture" as Margaret MacDonald apparently does. (Matthew 24:30; Revelation 6:15-16).

Margaret MacDonald: "Only those who have the light of God within them will see the sign of his appearance. No need to follow them who say, see here, or see there, for his day shall be as the lightning to those in whom the living Christ is. 'Tis Christ in us that will lift us up - he is the light - 'tis only those that are alive in him that will be caught up to meet him in the air." {4}

Margaret MacDonald's ramblings seem to be a confusing mishmash of various spiritual ideas. These (possibly demonic) ideas came from a very sick 15-year-old girl and they were not properly tested by Irving and others. (1 John 4:1). Brainard's deranged rantings against the prewrath view are desperately inaccurate and should be rejected out of hand.

1. Edward Irving and John Nelson Darby
2. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: X-RAYING MARGARET BY DAVE MACPHERSON (bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com)
3. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: JOHN DARBY DID NOT INVENT THE RAPTURE! BY DAVE MACPHERSON (bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com)
4. Margaret MacDonald (visionary) - Wikipedia


Saturday 11 June 2022

LEE BRAINARD'S BLATANT MISREPRESENTATION OF THE PREWRATH RAPTURE VIEW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N-6Lb40v7c?cc_lang_pref=
Demolishing the Pre-Wrath Rapture / Lee Brainard

Lee Brainard: "Many of us have friends that are wrestling with the pre-tribulation rapture versus the prewrath rapture or maybe some other version".

According to Lee Brainard, the prewrath rapture view is the biggest threat to the pre-trib view. In the above video, he confirmed various reports that a number of pre-trib believers are turning towards the prewrath view. I find this admission very encouraging, and it is good to know that a significant number of pre-trib believers are seriously considering the prewrath view. 

It is very concerning that Brainard felt the need to give such an offensive refutation of the prewrath rapture view. His portrayal of the prewrath rapture was highly distorted in a number of key areas, and his misrepresentations were unworthy of a bona fide bible teacher. (Titus 1:7-8). A huge concern for many Christians is whether pre-trib really is the scriptural position. The correct way to critique another view, even if we strongly disagree with it, is to represent it accurately, and Brainard singularly failed in this respect. Such a blatant misrepresentation of the prewrath rapture view is likely to have very serious consequences, both for Brainard himself - who will have to give an account, and for his hearers. (Romans 14:12). Unless believers are prepared to research this subject themselves, they are likely to be misled by some teachers, who, for their own reasons, are determined to misinform them. 

It would be a grave mistake to pay attention to Brainard's detrimental remarks about prewrath teachers. In particular, his claim that prewrath teachers do not know the scriptures and that they are deliberate deceivers is disingenuous. In view of his own flawed presentation, Brainard should consider whether these accusations apply to himself. In my experience, prewrath teachers are head and shoulders above their counterparts within both the pre-trib and the post-trib camps. The false hope of a pre-trib rapture poses a signicant risk to the faith of many believers. (Matthew 24:10, Jeremiah 23:16; Proverbs 13:12). 

There is no information that the pre-trib rapture view existed prior to the mid 1800's despite the combined efforts of many pre-trib scholars to find it. The pre-trib rapture theory is a relatively new doctrine that fails to find specific confirmation in the scriptures. (1 John 4:1). The history of the pre-trib rapture theory has been extensively explored in my previous posts: WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: Rapture (bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com)

Brainard weighed in almost immediately with the extraordinary claim that the prewrath view is "to argue from the position of fear". He continued: "We want to argue from the position of faith." The accusation that prewrath believers are operating in fear was a heavy handed attempt to discredit this view. Brainard's not so subtle attempt to discourage believers from testing the spirits is to go explicitly against the scriptures. (1 John 4:1; Acts 17:11). His ungodly tactics effectively erect a stumbling block in front of believers who are genuinely uncomfortable with the pre-trib view. (2 Corinthians 6:3). My own motivation for holding the prewrath view is a sincere desire to know the truth! (John 8:32; Luke 12:4).

Brainard's alleged six fatal arguments against the prewrath rapture view

1. There is no time between tribulation and second coming


Brainard: "The rapture and the arrival of the day of the Lord concur.. Their major premise is that the day of the Lord arrives at the sixth seal.. The rapture happens at the opening of the sixth seal.. The wrath doesn't start until after the sixth seal opens."  

The above is is a blatant misrepresentation of the prewrath view!

The prewrath view clarified

The prewrath view maintans that the rapture occurs between the 6th and the 7th seals. Matthew 24 and Revelation 6 and 7 confirm that the prewrath rapture occurs between the cosmic disturbances at the sixth seal in Revelation 6:12-14, and the opening of the 7th seal in Revelation 8:1.The period of God's wrath (the day of the Lord) begins with the seventh seal trumpet judgements in Revelation 8:6 ff. 

Brainard's claim: "Based on Matthew 24:29-30, there is no time between the tribulation and the second coming."  Brainard "forgot" to mention Matthew 24:31 which explicitly refers to the rapture! The cosmic signs referred to in Acts 2:19-20, Joel 2 and Isaiah 13 indicate the imminency of the rapture. The prewrath view sees the parousia as an extended period of time, beginning with the rapture, as against a single isolated event at Armageddon. 

Immediately after the tribulation of those days: ‘The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’ At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. (Matthew 24:29-31).


Brainard's persistent error throughout this video is to insist that "the day of the Lord" is the entire 70th week of Daniel. The prewrath view asserts the biblical distinction between "the beginning of birth pains" (the first half of the 70th week), Satan's wrath i.e. the great tribulation (thlipsis) (the second half of the 70th week), followed by God's wrath (orge). Biblically, the great tribulation begins 3.5 years after the Antichrist confirms "the covenant with many for one week" in the middle of the 70th week of Daniel. (Daniel 9:27). The great tribulation will last for a time, time and half a time i.e. three and a half years, 42 months or 1,260 days (cut short -Matthew 24:22 cf. Daniel 12:2). The day of the Lord is initiated at the 7th seal. (Revelation 8:1-5). 

So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let the one who is on the housetop not go down to take what is in his house, and let the one who is in the field not turn back to take his cloak. And alas for women who are pregnant and for those who are nursing infants in those days! Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a Sabbath. For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. (Matthew 24:15-22).

2.  The Identity of the twenty-four elders in Revelation 4-5

Brainard: "The church are in heaven in Revelation 4 and 5 prior to the opening of the first seal."

Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and seated on the thrones were twenty-four elders, clothed in white garments, with golden crowns on their heads. (Revelation 4:4).

..and you have made them a kingdom and priests to our God, and they shall reign on the earth.” (Revelation 5:10).


In Revelation 5:10, the twenty-four elders distinguish themselves from the church whom they refer to in the third person. Revelation 4-5 describes the scene in the throne room of God immediately prior to the opening of the first seal. The scene depicts precise numbers i.e. twenty-four thrones, twenty-four elders, four living creatures and the Lamb, nothing more. The addition of the church is an allegorization of the text and is a weak attempt to strengthen pre-trib predilections. (Revelation 22:18-19).

Meyer: "..for they are distinguished from believers, Revelation 5:10 (according to the correct reading), Revelation 7:9 sqq., 14, Revelation 11:16 sqq.; and the glorified as yet wear no crowns, but are expecting only the time of dominion (Revelation 2:10 to Revelation 6:9); but it is the heavenly council, composed of representatives of the people of God in heaven.” {1}

The scene described in Revelation 7 at a later stage depicts "a great multitude" i.e. all believers including the raptured church.

After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, (Revelation 7:9).

3. The economy is back to Mosaic Law during the 70th week

Brainard seemed to get confused and I am not sure if he finished making his third point. The prewrath view maintains that both Jews and Christians will be on the earth simultaneously during the 70th week of Daniel i.e. until believers are raptured some time after the sixth seal is broken. The prewrath view rejects the error of hyper-dispensationalism, in particular, the false claim that the gospels are not relevant to the church.

4. Kept from the hour of trial

Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial (πειρασμοῦ) that is coming on the whole world, to try (πειράσαι) those who dwell on the earth. (Revelation 3:10).

The hour of trial or testing (peirasmos) coming on the whole world is the wrath of God. God's wrath begins after the great tribulation and is carried out during the seventh seal trumpet and bowl judgments. (Revelation 8-9, Revelation 15:1,5-8, 16:1-21). Those believers who keep God's word and are faithful during the great tribulation will not suffer God's wrath. (1 Thessalonians 5:9). Unfortunately the pre-trib view fails to make the appropriate distinction between Satan's persecution against believers, and God's wrath on the whole world.

5. The Greek preposition ὑπὲρ (uper) 

Brainard argues that the Greek preposition ὑπὲρ (uper) is translated wrongly as περί (peri) by prewrath scholars in 2 Thessalonians 2:1. Brainard's paraphrase of this verse: "We plead with you brethren, because of the rapture, not to worry about the day of the Lord."

"ὑπὲρ (uper) ~ A primary preposition; "over", i.e. (with the genitive case) of place, above, beyond, across, or causal, for the sake of, instead, regarding; with the accusative case superior to, more than -- (+ exceeding, abundantly) above, in (on) behalf of, beyond, by, + very chiefest, concerning, exceeding (above, -ly), for, + very highly, more (than), of, over, on the part of, for sake of, in stead, than, to(-ward), very. In the comparative, it retains many of the above applications." {2}

ESV: Now concerning (ὑπὲρ) the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to Him, we ask you, brothers, not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day of the Lord has already come. Let no one deceive you in any way, for it will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness—the son of destruction—is revealed. (2 Thessalonians 2:1-3). 

KJV: Now we beseech you, brethren, by (ὑπὲρ) the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him.. (2 Thessalonians 2:1).

The preposition ὑπὲρ (uper) with the genitive case frequently refers to the object under consideration - concerning, of, as respects, with regard to.. on behalf of, beyond. {2} The translation of ὑπὲρ as "concerning" or "regarding" in this verse is a legitimate translation in my view. I do not claim to be an expert in biblical Greek by any means, but having studied the subject at degree level I do have some knowledge. Brainard's quibbling over ὑπὲρ appears to be an attempt to confound his audience with his alleged "knowledge" of biblical Greek. I am not quite sure why Brainard spent so much time making this point since it makes no difference to the argument. The discussion in these verses in context is the coming (parousia) of the Lord Jesus Christ and the rapture. It appears that the Thessalonians had received a message or a letter allegedly from Paul that had misled them into thinking that the day of the Lord had already come. Brainard's interpretation does not alter the fact that the rapture precedes the day of the Lord i.e. the wrath of God, and that the day of the Lord does not begin until the 7th seal is opened following the great tribulation, the cosmic disturbances and the rapture. Brainard repeats the error of failing to distinguish the period of wrath that follows the great tribulation. (Matthew 24:29).

6. The strong delusion is judgement 

For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming. The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thessalonians 2:7-12 cf. Revelation 3:10).

Brainard refers to the strong delusion as the day of the Lord. He fails to distinguish between the strong delusion and the actual period of God's direct eschatological wrath upon the earth which begins with the seven trumpets in Revelation 8. In both the Old Testament and the New Testament, the common element that delineates God's eschatological wrath is FIRE. (Joel 2:3; Isaiah 66:15; Malachi 4:1; 2 Peter 3:7; 1 Thessalonians 1:7-8; Revelation 8:5, 7, 8). The seven bowls of wrath  (Revelation 6:16, 8:6-13, 15:1 16:1 cf. Revelation 14:10) are the culmination of God's wrath. 

Pulpit Commentary: "It is the ordinance of God that the wicked by their wicked actions fall into greater wickedness, and that thus sin is punished by sin; and what is an ordinance of God is appointed by God himself. That they should believe a lie; or rather, the lie, namely the falsehood which the man of sin disseminates by his deceit of unrighteousness. Being destitute of the love of the truth, they are necessarily led to believe a lie - their minds are open to all manner of falsehood and delusion." {3}

Is the day of the Lord a literal 24-hour day?

Brainard has three separate definitions for the day of the Lord: the common sense which he thinks is the entire 70th week; the legal sense which he thinks is a literal 24-hour day (Malachi 4:1-3; James 1:9-11); and the figurative sense, the millennium. The problem with Brainard's convoluted view is that the scriptures do not refer to the day of the Lord in these terms.

It will be a day known only to the LORD, without day or night; but when evening comes, there will be light. (Zechariah 14:7).

Alan Kurschner: "..the term 'one day' should be better properly translated 'unique day' or 'never-ending day.' This is the rendering of most modern versions. For example: 'And there shall be a unique day, which is known to the LORD, neither day nor night, but at evening time there shall be light' (Zech 14:7 ESV, emphasis mine). See also the NIV and NASB for the same rendering. In other words, translators recognize that the context suggests this new era will be unique in redemptive history. It will be the new established conditions that will be ongoing. Thus, rendering and interpreting it as 'one day” misses the oracle’s point entirely." {4} 

Out of context verses cited by Brainard 

Brainard ends his abysmal presentation with two out of context verses which have no relevance to the day of the Lord.

"And on that day,”declares the Lord GOD, “I will make the sun go down at noon and darken the earth in broad daylight. (Amos 8:9 cf. Matthew 27:45).

This verse refers to the crucifixion, not the day of the Lord.

Coffman: "This is Amos' answer to the question propounded by the dishonest traders in Amos 8:5, 'When will the new moon... and the sabbath ... be gone?' Very well, the answer was: 'At that time when the sun goes down at noon, and the earth is darkened in a clear day,' an undeniable reference to the crucifixion of the Son of God, that being the only occasion in the history of the world when the sun set at noon, and the earth (not just a portion of it, but all of it) was darkened in a clear day! We may only marvel at the blindness of Biblical interpreters who fail to see this." {5} 

God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved; God will help her when morning dawns. (Psalm 46:5).

Psalm 46 concerns Israel's deliverance from the Assyrians and has no relevance to the day of the Lord. Pulpit Commentary: "The deliverance of Israel from Sennacherib came, it is to be remembered, when it was discovered 'early in the morning' that in the camp of the Assyrians were 185,000 'dead corpses' (2 Kings 19:35)." {6}





1. Revelation 4 Meyer's NT Commentary (biblehub.com)
2. Strong's Greek: 5228. ὑπέρ (huper) -- over, beyond, fig. on behalf of, for the sake of, concerning (biblehub.com)
3. 2 Thessalonians 2 Pulpit Commentary (biblehub.com)
4. Zechariah 14:7 and a Response to Post-Tribulationists | ESCHATOS MINISTRIES (alankurschner.com)
5. Amos 8 - Coffman's Commentaries on the Bible - Bible Commentaries - StudyLight.org
6. Psalm 46 Pulpit Commentary (biblehub.com)

Tuesday 26 April 2022

AMIR TSARFATI: RAPTURO ~ BLUNDER OR DELIBERATE MISINFORMATION?

Amir Tsarfati: How Close Are We to the Rapture? - YouTube

Where is "rapturo" in the Vulgate?

Pre trib rapture teacher Amir Tsarfati makes an obvious blunder (?) in the above video. (10:00 mark) His claim that "rapturo" is in the Latin Vulgate is completely spurious. I have difficulty believing that this is a genuine error, as was his previous error that the Archangel Michael in the Old Testament was a Christophany. On that occasion Tsarfati admitted his mistake and recanted.

Latin Vulgate: deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul rapiemur cum illis in nubibus obviam Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus {1}

rapiemur = we will be caught up. Rapiemur is the first-person plural future passive indicative of rapiō which has the same meaning as the Greek harpazo.

The Greek word "harpazo" =  to seize, catch up, snatch away. {2}

Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught (ἁρπαγησόμεθα) up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. (1 Thessalonians 4:17).


1 Thessalonians 4:17 refers to the rapture in any translation no matter whether you are pre-trib, post trib or prewrath. I am not quite sure what point Tsarfati thinks he is making?  (1 John 4:1).

Thus says the LORD of hosts: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD. (Jeremiah 23:16).

1. 1 Thessalonians 4:17-18 - VUL Bible - deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul rapie... (biblestudytools.com)
2. Strong's Greek: 726. ἁρπάζω (harpazó) -- to seize, catch up, snatch away (biblehub.com)

Sunday 27 February 2022

JOEL RICHARDSON: SIX REASONS THAT GOG IS THE ANTICHRIST DEBUNKED

 End Time Talks 14: Six Reasons Gog is the Antichrist - YouTube

The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him. (Proverbs 18:17).

Joel Richardson's view that Gog is the Antichrist appears plausible at first glance. However, on closer examination it is evident that his assertion is based on incomplete and superficial exegesis which can be debunked without too much difficulty. 

The only verse in the NT that specifically mentions Gog and Magog is Revelation 20:8: ..and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle. A plain reading of the text suggests that the Gog/Magog conflict occurs at the end of the millennium. There are similarities between the Gog/Magog event in Ezekiel 38 and 39 and Armageddon, but the differences are too significant to gloss over.  

Joel Richardson's six reasons why Gog is the Antichrist debunked. (1 John 4:1).

1. The Lord's name will no longer be profaned or blasphemed following God/Magog's alleged defeat at "Armageddon".

And my holy name I will make known in the midst of my people Israel, and I will not let my holy name be profaned anymore. And the nations shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel. (Ezekiel 39:7).

Richardson repeatedly fails to make a distinction between Israel and the nations in his eisegesis of Ezekiel 39:7. When the Gog/Magog event is applied to Armageddon there is a huge problem. Ezekiel 39:7 consists of two clauses: During the millennium Israel will no longer profane the Lord's holy name as they formerly did. (Ezekiel 36:23 cf. Leviticus 22:32; Ezekiel 20:9; 38:23). The second part of this verse  ..and the nations shall know that I am the Lord is a separate clause. The KJV makes this even clearer:

So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel. (Ezekiel 39:7 KJV).

Ezekiel 39:21-22 confirms and personalizes Israel's unique relationship with the Lord following the defeat of Gog/Magog. Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God.. However, the nations relationship with God is markedly different: they will know that I am the Lord (notice the absence of "their God"). During the millennium, all forms of defilement and sin are excluded from Jerusalem. God's unique relationship with Israel is one of intimacy and is infinitely superior to the relationship He has with the nations. Sin will continue to exist on the earth amongst unregenerate people outside Jerusalem. This situation comes to a climax at the end of the millennium when Satan gains numerous supporters. (Revelation 20:8). As such it it undeniable that two distinct people groups exist during the millennium ~ God's people Israel and the nations. 

And I will set my glory among the nations, and all the nations shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid on them. The house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God, from that day forward. (Ezekiel 39:21-22 cf. Ezekiel 36:36).  

Problematically Richardson trivializes the events of Revelation 20:8 in favour of his Armageddon theory. There are indications that Armageddon and the Gog/Magog battle are related in some way, but similarities between two events do not indicate an identical situation. Revelation gives a clear indication that the fulfilment of Ezekiel 39:7 occurs at the end of the millennium. I believe that Richardson makes a similar error to the preterists in that he confuses short term and long term fulfilment of prophecy. In the case of the preterists, they confuse the end of the age and the destruction of Jerusalem in the Olivet Discourse, whereas Richardson does the same thing with Armageddon and the Gog/Magog battle. 

Further evidence

It is by no means a "given" that all the heathen nations will willingly follow the Lord during the millennium. The unconverted nations inclination towards passive resistance to Jesus' rule is anticipated in the scriptures: And if any of the families of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, there will be no rain on them. (Zechariah 14:17). There will be peace on the earth at that time due to Jesus' "iron rule". The ' "rod of iron" primarily applies to the day of the Lord i.e. God's wrath. This period extends into the millennium during Jesus' theocratic rule. (Revelation 19:15; Psalm 2:9; Revelation 12:5). Many nations willingly acknowledge the Lord during the millennium, but there do appear to be exceptions. (Micah 4:2; Isaiah 2:3). The definition of profanity is irreverence or disrespect. The warning in Zechariah 4:17 anticipates irreverence and passive opposition to Jesus' rule by at least some of the heathen nations during the millennium. At the end of the millennium Satan will be released from the Abys to deceive the nations (Gog/Magog). At that time God's name will be openly profaned. (Revelation 20:3,7-9). The sheer numbers who are deceived by Satan at the end of the millennium is staggering.. their number is like the sand of the sea. (Revelation 20:8 cf. Isaiah 11:6-9). This demonstrates that the relationship between some of the nations and Jesus during the millennium is tenuous at best, and that their propensity to be deceived and to openly rebel is activated by Satan with apparent ease within a short time. (Revelation 20:3,7-8). If the above observations are correct, then Richardson has misinterpreted Ezekiel 39:7 by inserting the nations into a statement specifically applicable to Israel.

2. The Gentile nations will be judged after Armageddon

This point is easily refuted. The Gentiles nations ..will know that I am God.. Ezekiel 39:6-7 does not equate to repentance and a personal relationship with God (as above). The Gentile nations will be judged before the great white throne judgement after the God/Magog battle and after Satan's final defeat. The destruction of the Antichrist's armies at Armageddon leaves the nations forces decimated and unable to muster any further resistance to the Lord's return. (Revelation 20:21). This event is significant, but the judgement of the nations does not occur until the end of the millennium:  

And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. 
Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:7-15).

3. The Lord is physically present in Israel (Ezekiel 39:19-20)

For in my jealousy and in my blazing wrath I declare, On that day there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. The fish of the sea and the birds of the heavens and the beasts of the field and all creeping things that creep on the ground, and all the people who are on the face of the earth, shall quake at my presence (pe-nei). And the mountains shall be thrown down, and the cliffs shall fall, and every wall shall tumble to the ground. (Ezekiel 38:20). 

No one with premillennial beliefs would dispute that Jesus will be physically present in Israel following Armageddon, during the millennium and throughout the eternal state. 

A number of pre-trib rapture premillennials hold the view that the Gog/Magog battle will occur prior to Armageddon. For instance, Bill Salus proposes that Ezekiel 38 and 39 are about to be fulfilled. Andy Woods (Sugar Land Bible Church) teaches that Ezekiel 38 happens at at the beginning of Daniel's 70th week when the second seal is broken. While I disagree with these views, Richardson's argument that Hebrew pe·nei = face in Ezekiel 38:20 proves God's physical presence is disingenuous. In fact pe-nei occurs a number of times in the Old Testament in contexts that do not in fact denote the Lord's physical presence. For instance: The face (pe-nei) of the LORD is against those who do evil, to cut off the memory of them from the earth. (Psalm 34:16). David sought the face (pe·nei) of the Lord in 2 Samuel 21:1 etc. I only add this detail to demonstrate Richardson's weak exegesis. There are valid reasons that the Gog/Magog event will not happen either prior to or during the 70th week of Daniel, but this is not one of them.

Every living creature in the sea?

If Ezekiel 38:20 does refer to Armageddon then there is a difficulty. The first six bowls of God's wrath, specifically the second bowl, involves the death of every living creature in the sea:    

The second angel poured out his bowl into the sea, and it became like the blood of a corpse, and every living thing died that was in the sea. (Revelation 16:3).

The fish of the sea and the birds of the heavens and the beasts of the field and all creeping things that creep on the ground, and all the people who are on the face of the earth, shall quake at my presence. (Ezekiel 38:20).

Richardson fails to resolve the fish of the sea quaking at God's presence and the death i.e. the non existence of all the fish of the sea in Revelation 16:3 prior to Armageddon. Once again, this is a tangible problem that Richardson fails to address.

4. The text specifically says that Gog is judged and destroyed at the Day of the Lord

Behold, it is coming and it will be brou
ght about, declares the Lord GOD. That is the day of which I have spoken. (Ezekiel 39:8).

The period known as the Day of the Lord begins after the prewrath rapture of the church during the seventh seal trumpet and bowl judgements. (Revelation 8-11). This period also applies to the thousand year period of Jesus' rule. As such there is no contradiction with the view that Gog is judged at the Day of the Lord at the end of the millennium. There is no preliminary event described in the scriptures that would allow for Gog's judgement at an earlier point, including the problematic Armageddon theory. (Revelation 8:1-13).  

5. All Israel is saved following the defeat of Gog/Magog

The house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God, from that day forward. (Ezekiel 39:22).

Israel shall know that the Lord is, and will always continue to be, their God. Ezekiel 39:25-29 summarizes the entire six night messages contained within the book of Ezekiel. 

6. The Lord tells Gog that he is the Antichrist

Thus says the Lord GOD: Are you he of whom I spoke in former days by my servants the prophets of Israel, who in those days prophesied for years that I would bring you against them? (Ezekiel 38:17).

The problem with this argument is that no existing prophecy prior to Ezekiel's time actually mentions Gog by name. Various commentators have surmised that either Ezekiel refers to prophecies known in his day, but are no longer extant, or that Gog is prefigured in earlier prophecies.

Ewald cites Isaiah 10:6; Isaiah 17:4; Smend adding Micah 5:11; Zephaniah 3:8; Keil, Isaiah 25:5, 10; Jeremiah 30:23, 25; Joel 4:2, 11, etc.; Hengstenberg, Deuteronomy 32; Isaiah 24-27; Isaiah 34; and Fairbairn, Numbers 24:17-24; Isaiah 14:28-32; Isaiah 18; Joel 3; Daniel 2:44, 45{1} 

The Antichrist has a number of titles and names in the scriptures, but he is never referred to as Gog. e.g. the beast (Revelation 11:7); the lawless one (2 Thessalonians 2:89; Daniel 7:25); the man of sin (2 Thessalonians 2:3); the son of perdition (2 Thessalonians 2:3); the little horn (Daniel 7:8,24; Daniel 8:9) the worthless shepherd (Zechariah 11:16-17).

Further points
 
The additional points below are not exhaustive by any means. There are many additional problems with Richardson's view that I have not included here. 

In the latter years

After a long time you will be summoned. In the latter years you will enter a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. (Ezekiel 38:8).

The phrase "in the latter years" is a frequent prophetic phrase denoting the Messianic era. (Genesis 49:1; Numbers 24:14; Isaiah 2:2; Daniel 10:14; Micah 4:1).

The prophecy against Gog

On that day, thoughts will come into your mind, and you will devise an evil scheme and say, ‘I will go up against the land of unwalled villages. I will fall upon the quiet people who dwell securely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having no bars or gates,’ to seize spoil and carry off plunder, to turn your hand against the waste places that are now inhabited, and the people who were gathered from the nations, who have acquired livestock and goods, who dwell at the center of the earth. Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all its leaders will say to you, ‘Have you come to seize spoil? Have you assembled your hosts to carry off plunder, to carry away silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods, to seize great spoil?’ (Ezekiel 38:10-13).

Unwalled Villages

The Antichrist's covenant of false peace with Israel at the beginning of the 70th week of Daniel cannot be identified with Armageddon. (Daniel 9:27). At the mid point of the week, the so called false peace will be shattered at the abomination of desolation event. (Daniel 12:11; Matthew 24:15). Subsequently the Antichrist will launch the greatest persecution of all time against the Jewish people. In other words, there is no peace in Israel prior to the battle of Armageddon i.e. during the second half of the 70th week of Daniel. (Matthew 24:21).

The only possibly explanation for Gog's attack against "unwalled villages" in Ezekiel 38:11 is when God's enemies have been destroyed and Satan is incarcerated in the abyss during the millennium when true peace will be established by Jesus. At the end of the millennium when Satan is released he will deceive the nations for the final battle. (Revelation 20:7-10).

For the Spoil

The Antichrist is victorious at the mid point of the 70th week of Daniel when he demands worship and declares himself to be God. (2 Thessalonians 2:4; Matthew 24:9,15-22). By the time Armageddon occurs, the Antichrist has already taken control of Jerusalem, he has put an end to sacrifice and offering; he has demanded worship and he has implemented the mark of the beast globally. (Daniel 9:27; Revelation 13:4,12-17). Apart from pockets of protection (i.e. the 144,000 and those who flee to the wilderness (Revelation 7:1-8,12:6)), Israel will be under the complete control of the Antichrist. Presumably, any "spoil" will have been seized at the mid point of the 70th week of Daniel or shortly thereafter. Are Israel "a quiet people who dwell securely" prior to Armageddon? At this point, the Jews have suffered the worst persecution imaginable and two thirds of them will have been slaughtered. (Zechariah 13:8). Jacobs trouble: And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. (Daniel 12:1 cf. Matthew 24:21). In other words, the argument that the Antichrist will come against Israel for plunder is a non-starter since he already has Israel (and the whole world) under his control. 

The inconsistency of the Armageddon/Gog argument cannot be more obvious than it is in Ezekiel 38:10-13.

The problem of location

And they assembled them at the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon. (Revelation 16:16).

And they marched across the broad expanse of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. (Revelation 20:9).

Tel Megiddo is frequently identified as the site where the kings of the earth prepare to wage war on the forces of God under the satanic leadership of the Antichrist at the end of the present age. Armageddon Har-Magedon (probably Hebrew Hill of Megiddo), is located some 56 miles north of Jerusalem. The precise location of Armageddon is debated because, according to some, the first syllable ar stands for either ir (city) or har (mountain). Michael Heiser and others argue that there is no mountain called Megiddo, and therefore the plain of Megiddo is not the location of the final battle. Heiser's convoluted proposal is that Armageddon is a corruption of the Hebrew Har Mo'ed (mount of assembly; cf. Isaiah 14:13), or of Har Migdo (God's fruitful mountain) which he speculates is Mount Zion. I view Heiser with a certain amount of suspicion as he appears to be part of the NAR and he does not believe in a literal millennium. {2} Commentators generally agree that Armageddon alludes to the hill country surrounding the plain of Megiddo where many previous battles were fought by Israel. (Judges 5:19; 2 Kings 23:29; 2 Chronicles 35:22, cf. Zechariah 12:11). The object of the Antichrist's stand at Armageddon is to come against Jesus Christ and His visible armies (Revelation 19:19), it is not to take Jerusalem. If the location of Armageddon (above) is accurate, the Antichrist will fall on the plains of Megiddo. In Revelation 20:9 the enemies of God surround the beloved city (Jerusalem). Gog and his armies will fall "on the mountains of Israel" (Ezekiel 39:4 cf. Ezekiel 39:17). This information exposes another inconsistency in the Antichrist/Gog theory.

Primitive weapons (Ezekiel 39:9)

It seems doubtful that the Antichrist will utilize primitive weapons at Armageddon. The Antichrist will have access to all the worlds sophisticated weaponry, and arguably he will also have access to fallen angel technology. If this is the case, the weaponry of the Antichrist will be incredibly advanced. The spectacular success of the Antichrist and his unstoppable conquest of many nations indicates that he is an evil genius. (Daniel 8:3). After his apparent or real resurrection, he will literally become the incarnation of Satan. As such, nothing, including the earths weaponry, will be unavailable to him. (Revelation 13:13 cf. Matthew 4:9). 

In contrast, it is conceivable that primitive weapons will be used at the end of the millennium by Gog and his hordes. During the millennium there will be no wars. As such weapons of war will be non existent and the technology for the production of modern weaponry will be inaccessible.

He shall judge between many peoples, and shall decide disputes for strong nations far away; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore; (Micah 4:3).

Thrown alive into the lake of fire or buried?

The Antichrist and the false prophet are thrown alive into the lake of fire without undergoing bodily death. (Revelation 19:20). This seems to correspond to the earth swallowing up Korah and his company alive. (Numbers 16:33 cf. Daniel 7:11). 

The unequivocal statement that the Antichrist and false prophet are thrown alive into the lake of fire conflicts with the prophecy against Gog in Ezekiel 39. Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, will fall in the open field. Subsequently Gog and his multitude will be buried in the Valley of Travelers east of the sea. These details are very specific:

You shall fall on the mountains of Israel, you and all your hordes and the peoples who are with you. I will give you to birds of prey of every sort and to the beasts of the field to be devoured. You shall fall in the open field, for I have spoken, declares the Lord GOD. I will send fire on Magog and on those who dwell securely in the coastlands, and they shall know that I am the LORD. (Ezekiel 39:4-6).

On that day I will give to Gog a place for burial in Israel, the Valley of the Travelers, east of the sea. It will block the travelers, for there Gog and all his multitude will be buried. It will be called the Valley of Hamon-gog. (Ezekiel 39:12).

My response to Richardson's feeble attempt to resolve this contradiction can be found below. 

If Richardson were to submit his thesis for evaluation by an unbiased academic body, it would be rejected outright due to its contradictions and lack of convincing evidence. (1 John 4:1). A strong case can be made that the Gog Magog event happens at the end of the millennium. At least that is what my bible says!

And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. (Revelation 20:7-10).

1. Ezekiel 38:17 Commentaries: Thus says the Lord GOD, "Are you the one of whom I spoke in former days through My servants the prophets of Israel, who prophesied in those days for many years that I would bring you against them? (biblehub.com)
2. Michael Heiser: Warning Signals (narwatchisrael.info)