PROPHECY TODAY MAGAZINE: THE NONSENSE OF CLIFFORD DENTON AND THE CORONATION OATH!

But to the wicked God says: “What right have you to recite my statutes or take my covenant on your lips? (Psalm 50:16).

Integration into EU Would Betray Coronation Oath     
http://www.prophecytoday.uk/comment/society-politics/item/413-integration-into-a-european-super-state-would-betray-coronation-oath.html

Clifford Denton: "A pivotal point in the debate about Britain's relationship with the EU must be our Coronation Oath, which sets us apart as a nation of declared intention, seeking to live under the rule and protection of Almighty God. With the Bible at the foundation of our laws, setting a protecting boundary for the free and open proclamation of the Gospel in our nation, with thousands of years of history to get us to 2 June 1953, the Queen led the way in commitment at the Coronation service in Westminster Abbey....
Britain has entered into a 'voluntary covenant' with God, through the Coronation Oath."

Denton: "Is it a fanciful view of Britain's status before God to see it in covenant terms?"
Answer: Yes it is a fanciful view indeed!!! The New Testament does not support the heretical idea that anyone is entitled to enter into a covenant with God through the oath of a third party!!!

The folly that comes out of Prophecy Today is quite frankly unbelievable. Founder and Editor in Chief Clifford Hill of Issachar Ministries claims to be "prophetic"..... However, my Bible does not recognise the position of an "ecumenical prophet" in the Kingdom of God!!!

Has Britain entered into a corporate "voluntary covenant" with God through the Queen's Coronation Oath? Apart from the theological problems associated with such a claim, there are compelling reasons to believe that the Coronation Oath was void even before it was uttered.

"Princess Elizabeth (later Queen Elizabeth II) in a robe of green is led by an acolyte to Archdruid Crwys Williams, who will initiate her into the Mystic Circle of Bards at the national Eisteddfod, or festival, at Mountain Ash, Glamorgan, Wales, August 6, 1946."{1}

Princess Elizabeth Nazi Salute

Albert and Elizabeth, the Duke and Duchess of York, in druidic robes at the National Eisteddfod of Wales in Swansea. They are the future King George VI and Queen Elizabeth of England.

1953 The Coronation of Queen Elizabeth

God is against oaths:

But above all, my brothers, do not swear, either by heaven or by earth or by any other oath, but let your “yes” be yes and your “no” be no, so that you may not fall under condemnation. (James 5:12 cf. Matthew 5:34).

Notice that James is addressing "brothers"  that is believers (of either sex). Can we honestly say that the Druid Princess was a Christian when she took the Coronation Oath? This is the woman who signed the Abortion Act in 1967 and the Equal Marriages Act in 2013. To be Protestant these days is, by and large, to be ecumenical... that is to recognise as valid paganism and false gods. (Jeremiah 18:15). When and if Prince Charles takes the Oath as "Defender of Faiths" as he puts it, he will espouse a "faith" that is absolutely alien to the scriptures and an abomination. (2 Kings 23:13).

There is of course only one way to enter into a covenant with God, and that particular way was instigated by God Himself through Jesus Christ. We in Britain should not imagine that we have any covenant with God due to the Queen's Coronation Oath... this is a lie from the pit of hell!

Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3).

..since you have been born again, not of perishable seed but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God; (1 Peter 1:23).

But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. (John 1:12-13).

The English Coronation Oath dates back to at least the coronation of Edgar at Bath Abbey in 973 A.D. Alterations were made to the oath over time, particularly in the 17th century to take account of the Protestant Reformation.{2}

An excerpt from Queen Elizabeth II Coronation Oath:

Archbishop: Will you to the utmost of your power maintain the Laws of God and the true profession of the Gospel? Will you to the utmost of your power maintain in the United Kingdom the Protestant Reformed Religion established by law? Will you maintain and preserve inviolably the settlement of the Church of England, and the doctrine, worship, discipline, and government thereof, as by law established in England? And will you preserve unto the Bishops and Clergy of England, and to the Churches there committed to their charge, all such rights and privileges, as by law do or shall appertain to them or any of them?
Queen: All this I promise to do.{3}

When England became Protestant, it was not the result of anything meritorious about the monarch, King Henry VIII; quite the reverse in fact. Protestantism in England was forged through the godlessness of Henry, his lust for Anne Boleyn and his wish to divorce Catherine of Aragon, not by any true commitment to Jesus Christ. Henry's original remit was to eliminate the so called "heresy" of Martin Luther. In 1521 Pope Leo X conferred the title of Defender of the Faith on Henry for his book 'Assertio Septem Sacramentorum', which affirmed the supremacy of the Pope in the face of the reforming ideals of the  Martin Luther.{4} All was well until the Pope refused to sanction Henry's divorce, at which point he broke with Rome and established himself as head of the Church of England. However, Henry's personal religious beliefs remained essentially unchanged and Protestant practices were virtually indistinguishable from the idolatry and tradition of Roman Catholicism. In fact Henry VIII went on to become more and more ungodly. He sent more people to their deaths than any preceding monarch. Henry VIII's lifestyle degenerated into a life of tyranny, injustice, adultery, excess and gluttony. In 1536 Henry began to deteriorate into mental illness, suffering from chronic depression, mood swings and paranoia. Rebellion towards God exacts a heavy penalty without repentance, as the examples of Kings Saul and Nebuchadnezzar prove. (Deuteronomy 28:27-29).

God did bring good out of the selfish agenda of a wicked man, the result is that every person in Britain now has the opportunity to receive the true gospel of Jesus Christ. If Britain is under God's special protection, then all of Protestant Europe is likewise under God's protection, since the Reformation began in Germany, not in Britain. Following Henry VIII, the next person to take the oath was Bloody Mary, a Roman Catholic. Britain has no special covenant with God through the monarch or any oath he/she might swear, this is complete and utter nonsense.

Biblically, covenants with God are always instigated by God Himself, never by mere men.... God repeatedly refers to "my covenant"  (Leviticus 26:42; Jeremiah 33:20-21; Malachi 2:5; Hosea 8:1; Zecharaiah 11:10; Exodus 19:5; Genesis 17:3; Malachi 2:4; Psalm 89:28; Psalm 132:12).

Actually there was one exception: And Jehoiada made a covenant between the Lord and the king and people, that they should be the Lord’s people, and also   between the king and the people. (2 Kings 11:17)... Actually this was a renewal of God's covenant. It was unprecedented and it involved drastic repentance turning away from false idols and the evil practices of Queen Athaliah. Then all the people of the land went to the house of Baal and tore it down; his altars and his images they broke in pieces, and they killed Mattan the priest of Baal before the altars (2 Kings 11:18).

Therefore Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, now that He has died to redeem them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.

It is difficult to see how the Queen can be Defender of the (Protestant) Faith and also a "Princess of the Holy Roman Empire" at the same time! Prison Planet posted a copy of THE OFFICIAL ALMANACH DE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 800-2008 with some additional background information.{5} Since 2008 the original source has been removed.

Below are two excerpts from the lists of monarchies from two separate sources:

Royal Houses and the Holy Roman Empire:

Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
House of Windsor (Saxe-Coburg-Gotha)
King of England, Scotland and Northern Ireland
Prince of the Holy Roman Empire

Elizabeth II Alexandra Mary, Queen of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Philip Mountbatten, Duke of Edinburgh, Prince of Greece and Denmark {6}

The Holy Roman Empire Association

The Imperial Nobility of Great Britain
KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN & NORTHERN IRELAND /
ROYAL HOUSE OF WINDSOR
H.M. Queen Elizabeth The Second of The United Kingdom
of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
(Princess of The Holy Roman Empire )

H.R.H. The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh.
( Prince of The Holy Roman Empire) {7}

The Holy Roman Empire was a loosely joined union of various kingdoms which held power in much of Europe between 962 and 1806 A.D. The Holy Roman Empire became the "Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation" in 1512, Germany being the dominant member. Critically the Holy Roman Empire was an alliance between the the papacy and the state, with various emperors sanctioned by the Vatican and crowned by the Pope. Martin Luther was the catalyst that brought about eventual change through the Reformation. The stranglehold of the RC Church was considerably weakened, leading to the eventual dissolution of the Holy Roman Empire and the end of the Dark Ages. Since the Holy Roman Empire was dissolved in 1806, one might ask how or why these titles have been given to the monarchy in our particular time, and critically, where their true alliances lie. The Queen's Oath is an expression of adherence to the Protestant faith as against Roman Catholicism after all!

It appears that the monarchy have covered all the bases.. All, that is, except the one that matters!

Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other. (Isaiah 45:22).

Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:11-15).

I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. (Romans 16:17).

{1}  https://uk.pinterest.com/pin/94786767133395270/
{2} http://www.conservapedia.com/English_coronation_oath
{3} https://www.royal.uk/coronation-oath-2-june-1953
{4} http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/people/henry_viii/ 
{5} http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=65254.0
{6} http://www.regno.org/stati/hre_sovereigns.html
{7} http://www.holyromanempireassociation.com/imperial-nobility-of-great-britain.html

DALLAS SEMINARY SECRETS BY DAVE MACPHERSON

     Dallas, Texas is called the Big D. And Dallas Theological Seminary, deep in the heart of Big D, is the No. 1 school promoting another Big D.
     I refer to "Dispensationalism" which, like a pearl shell, has long built up layers of supposed "proof" in order to protect its inner secret: the little money-making pearl known as the pretribulation rapture, a 19th century theological novelty that was based originally on only OT and NT types and symbols and NOT on a single Bible verse!
     For many years Dr. John Walvoord was DTS president and was viewed as the world's No. 1 pretrib rapture authority. Astonishingly, the first (1957) printing of Walvoord's "The Rapture Question" admitted on p. 148: "The fact is that neither posttribulationism nor pretribulationism is an explicit teaching of Scripture."
     (Walvoord, of course, could easily apply "explicit" in this manner to the historic posttrib view. The real shock was seeing him applying it to his own pretrib view!)
     Dr. George Ladd of Fuller Seminary was the first one to alert me about this. In the same 1971 letter to me, Ladd added that in later printings of Walvoord's book the above devastating admission no longer appears for obvious reasons!
     In two of his books ("The Blessed Hope and the Tribulation," 1976, and "The Rapture Question, Revised," 1979), Walvoord discussed my extensive research on pretrib rapture history. Many are still unaware that Walvoord, when opposing my findings, leaned not for support on any of his own DTS profs including church history experts but instead leaned almost exclusively on a militant member of the Plymouth Brethren named R. A. Huebner who at that time was a retired electrical engineer who had admitted that he had never attended college, seminary, or even a Bible school! (My research, BTW, has uncovered serious copying errors in Huebner's works - 95 of them in his 1973 booklet "The Truth of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture Recovered" and 257 in his 1991 book "Precious Truths Revived and Defended Through J. N. Darby" including words carelessly added or subtracted when quoting others!)
     Walvoord's "The Rapture Question" also declares on p. 127: "Posttribulationism has long been a common doctrine held by the majority of the church." (Interestingly, even though pretrib teachers are aware of this true statement, they either pretend it doesn't exist or give the impression that anyone holding to a non-pretrib view is someone akin to a heretic!)
     Bible teachers who've either taught, spoken, or studied at Dallas Seminary include the following: Tony Evans, Arnold Fruchtenbaum, Ed Hindson, Mark Hitchcock, Thomas Ice, H. A. Ironside, Robert Jeffress, David Jeremiah, Hal Lindsey, Erwin Lutzer, J. Vernon McGee, Dwight Pentecost, Randall Price, Ron Rhodes, Charles Ryrie, Charles Stanley, Joseph Stowell, Chuck Swindoll, Merrill Unger, and Andy Woods.
     My greatest shocks have been when discovering massive plagiarism among some of the scholars tied to Dallas Seminary. My book "The Rapture Plot" has an appendix covering such thievery even in the writings of men like Charles Ryrie and Paul Lee Tan.
      And my later book "The Three R's" shows, with side-by-side lines, that famed DTS prof Dr. Merrill Unger, holder of more than one doctorate, quietly plagiarized some of Hal Lindsey's books! He pilfered lines on 67 pages in Hal's "The Late Great Planet Earth" and also lifted lines on 36 pages in Hal's "There's A New World Coming."
     Much more evidence of such dispensational dishonesty is found in my "Plot" book. Readers can also Google "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty" and "Walvoord's Posttrib Varieties - Plus."
     Remember: DTS stands for Dallas Theological Seminary." It can also stand for "Distorting the Scripture"!

THIEVES' MARKETING BY DAVE MACPHERSON

     Are you aware that some major evangelical publishers have been trafficking in stolen items?

     Before I load you up with brand-new details about a stunning development in this regard, I need to put this vehicle in reverse.

     Surfers of non-pretrib sites may remember the "Deceiving and Being Deceived" article of mine. In it I included the names of many well-known pretrib authors who had been plagiarizing the writings of others, and also revealed the names of some evangelical publishers who'd been a party to such piracy.

     But this shocking story really began in 1997. That was when I discovered that much of a 1990 book, Escape the Coming Night by David Jeremiah and C. C. Carlson, was a brazen plagiarism of Hal Lindsey's 1973 book There's A New World Coming. I can't recall which part of Escape made me suspicious and led me to do a thorough examination. It may have been the description of the 144,000 as "Jewish Billy Grahams"----an unforgettable phrase I knew Lindsey had used. (Originally published by Word Publishing, Escape had later been taken over by Thomas Nelson Publishers, the largest Bible and inspirational book publisher on earth.)

     The year 1997 also found me working on a new book, one that came out the following year. After I ran across even more plagiarism in some influential evangelical publishers including Moody Press, I decided to confront them.

     The first publisher contacted was Thomas Nelson in 1998. I chose to write to Mrs. Sam Moore, the wife of Thomas Nelson's chairman and CEO. (At times it's easier to get the attention of a busy executive if a request or problem is addressed to his wife and marked "personal"!)

     Mrs. Moore evidently turned the letter over to her husband because I soon received a letter from Thomas Elmlinger, associate counsel  in Nelson's legal department, who asked me to send him evidence of plagiarism in Escape. After I sent him a stack of photocopies of marked pages in both books (Escape had massive plagiarism on 47 pages!), a November 2, 1998 letter from Elmlinger stated:

     "Thank you for your letter of October 19 and the enclosed photocopy of the suspect portions of Escape the Coming Night. Word published this book in 1990, two years before Word became a part of Thomas Nelson. Obviously, we were unable to check every title that Word had published for possible problems.

     "Nevertheless, we at Thomas Nelson are very concerned about this matter. Accordingly, we are destroying all our current inventory of this title and will not reprint the book.

     "Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention."

     During the next few years I sent many copies of this letter to Christian leaders and praised Thomas Nelson publicly for its honesty. And in my "Deceiving" article on numerous worldwide sites, I referred to Nelson as a "happy exception to publishing dishonesty" while discussing the thievery in Escape.

     Well, clouds can suddenly blot out the sun. In mid-2001 I happened to spot the 1999 reprint of Escape the Coming Night which featured a totally different front cover. This was the first time I'd had a chance to see the new printing and I was wondering what it would look like minus the plagiarism that Elmlinger said would never again appear in that title.

     However, I was amazed and dumbfounded upon finding out that ALL of the plagiarism was still in it and that the publishing of it hadn't missed a beat ever since Elmlinger's misleading letter in late 1998!

     In addition, I noted that the title page listed the publisher as "Word Publishing" and called it "A Thomas Nelson Company"!

     On August 31, 2001 I sent a letter to David Moberg, president of Word Publishing (which now calls itself W Publishing). I told him what I've just told you and added:

     "How can a Thomas Nelson company continue to publish a dishonest book? Was your company informed of the plagiarism? If so, why is it still in the book? Thomas Elmlinger at Nelson reviewed the evidence I presented. If you would rather have the proof from me, I can send you a stack of photocopies of marked pages in your latest edition plus marked pages in the Hal Lindsey book that was plagiarized by Jeremiah and Carlson."

     (HE HAS NEVER RESPONDED!)

     A number of weeks later, on October 1st, I mailed the same questions to Mrs. Sam Moore.

     (SHE HAS NEVER RESPONDED!)

     Several weeks later, on October 23rd, I put the same questions to Mr. Elmlinger, the man who gave me a rapture runaround in 1998 while evidently planning all the while to cover up the continuation of dishonest promotion of the pretrib rapture view, a view easily lending itself to such practices simply because it's been riddled with dishonesty since its 1830 birth!

     (HE HAS NEVER RESPONDED!)

     Whenever ancient Israel failed to do right or deliberately did wrong, she brought terror upon herself----that is, she provoked the Lord which forced Him to allow men and even angels to terrorize her. In effect, she was her own terrorist, bringing terror upon herself.

     Not all of the terrorists these days are in the Middle East or Afghanistan. In Western "Christian" countries there are those who terrorize millions of the unborn in "hospitals" and those who terrorize the already-born on highways. And also those who terrorize the born-again ones by promoting a latter-day end-time view that's already terrorized and killed unprepared millions in Russia, China, Korea etc. and promises to terrorize and kill many more unprepared and exploited millions.

     If terrorists include those who aid and finance terrorism, then those who operate from publishing "caves" in Tennessee or Michigan or Oregon while secretly aiding literary thievery are actually Laodicean enemies in our midst who will force God to terroristically chasten all of us who continue to support such dishonesty----no matter how many flags we wrap ourselves in, and no matter how often we chant our superficial Americadabra slogans!

PRETRIB RAPTURE SCHOLAR WANNABES BY DAVE MACPHERSON

     To become a PH.D (Pretrib History Distorter) or a D.D. (Doctrinal Deviant), do the following:

     (1) MISSPELL THE LAST NAMES OF MANUEL LACUNZA, MARGARET MACDONALD, C. I. SCOFIELD, HAL LINDSEY, GRANT JEFFREY, TIM LAHAYE ETC.

     (2) STATE THAT MARGARET MACDONALD WAS A PLYMOUTH BRETHREN MEMBER, OR THAT JOHN DARBY WAS HER PASTOR.

     Wrong and wrong.

     (3) OR GUESS THAT MARGARET WAS AN IRVINGITE, OR THAT EDWARD IRVING WAS HER PASTOR.

     Wrong and wrong again.
 
     (4) ASSUME THAT MARGARET MACDONALD ORIGINATED "DISPENSATIONALISM."

     This "straw man" assumption by Jack Kinsella ("Is Dispensationalism a Recent Doctrine?," 8/11/11) is totally missing from all genuine scholarship, and Jack can't find her even mentioning that long word!

     (5) CLAIM THAT MARGARET'S PRIVATELY CIRCULATED 1830 RAPTURE "REVELATION" TAUGHT ONLY THE POSTTRIB VIEW.

     Longtime No. 1 pretrib rapture leader John Walvoord's "Rapture Question" proves (p. 105f) that Margaret's view (that only PART of the Church gets raptured) has long been a widely held form of the PREtrib view - and Charles Ryrie's 1981 "rapture" book and other pretrib works have purposely ignored Walvoord!

     Margaret's 1830 "revelation" saw "the one taken [before Antichrist's revealing] and the other left." The PART of the Church left on earth after the rapture was viewed by her collectively as "the Church" - the same wording used in the same way by later partial rapturists! (Google "X-Raying Margaret," "Margaret Macdonald's Rapture Chart," and "Margaret Macdonald's Main Point.")

     (6) REPEAT THE FALSEHOOD THAT JOHN DARBY WAS DISPENSATIONALISM'S "FATHER."

     Darby wasn't original on any crucial aspect of that system including the "church/Israel dichotomy," the church being absent from a future "Jewish" tribulation, the "Jewish" book of Matthew, the "literal method," the "Gentile parenthesis," the "ruin of the church," and especially the "pretribulation rapture." Margaret was the first to "discover" pretrib in the Bible and she shared her novel interpretation only privately with others (spring of 1830). Rev. Edward Irving and his followers, who credited Margaret, were the first to publicly teach it (September of 1830) in the Irvingite journal "The Morning Watch." Darby didn't clearly express pretrib until 1839 - and when he did he plagiarized the exact same Rev. 12 "man child caught up" argument Irving had publicly used eight years earlier!

     (7) TRY NOT TO REPRODUCE MARGARET'S 117-LINE PRETRIB RAPTURE "REVELATION."

     But if you do, copy it like Thomas Ice who in 1989 copied it so quickly he somehow omitted a total of 49 words from different sentences - the same 49 words that Tim LaHaye left behind in his 1992 book "No Fear of the Storm"! LaHaye (pp. 168, 207) also came up with two different titles for Lacunza's famous old book - neither one correct! (Google "Thomas Ice (Bloopers)," "America's Pretrib Rapture Traffickers" (which reveals that Ice's "Ph.D" was issued by a school that was fined by the state of Texas for illegally issuing degrees!), "Walvoord Melts Ice," and "LaHaye's Temperament."

     (8) DON'T LET YOURSELF QUOTE ACTS 2:34-35, ACTS 3:21, OR II THESS. 1:7-8.

     Why? They prove that Christ can't leave heaven ahead of time for a pretrib rapture!

     (9) READ PRETRIB INTO AS MANY PRE-1830 WRITERS AS POSSIBLE.

     Such writers used only double meaning or unclear phrases like "escape," "taken away," "before the general conflagration," "before Armageddon" etc. - but many of your readers will believe you if you assert that the ancient writers were really teaching pretrib!

     Even Walvoord couldn't find ANYONE before the time of Darby (whom Walvoord labeled as an "early pretribulationist"!) who taught pretrib, so Walvoord had to settle for only what seemed to be "imminence" (in three of the earliest church documents) which seemingly could fit into the pretrib scheme - and Walvoord even censored portions of the ancient statements which, when quoted completely, revealed the posttrib view! Is it possible that John Bray, Thomas Ice, Grant Jeffrey and some others can locate - or manufacture - evidence of pretrib before 1830 that even Walvoord couldn't find?! (To see exposures of those claiming to find pretrib before 1830, Google my internet article entitled "Deceiving and Being Deceived.")

     (10) IGNORE ARTICLES ON GOOGLE AND YAHOO LIKE "PRETRIB RAPTURE - HIDDEN FACTS," "PRETRIB RAPTURE DIEHARDS," AND "PRETRIB RAPTURE SECRECY."

     If you ignore this advice, at least take some tranquilizers first!

     (11) PLAGIARIZING IS EASIER THAN RESEARCHING. BUT TRY TO DISGUISE YOUR THIEVERY!

     If you think that stealing isn't a way of life for pretrib promoters (from Darby to LaHaye), you've never Googled "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty," "Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal," or "Thieves' Marketing."

     (12) IF ALL ELSE FAILS, CLAIM THAT REV. 3:10 PROVES PRETRIB.

     Avoid Googling "Famous Rapture Watchers" which reveals how the greatest New Testament Greek scholars of all time interpreted it.

     Finally, I invite you to obtain my 300-page, highly endorsed book "The Rapture Plot." What you've read so far in this paper is less than one percent of the mountains of documentation on pretrib rapture history in this book of mine. A good number of my web articles can be found on "Wolves in Sheep's Clothing," an excellent UK blog hosted by accomplished researcher and writer Treena Gisborn.

JACOB PRASCH AND THE RAPTURE RENEGADES!

For what partnership can righteousness have with wickedness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness? (2 Corinthians 6:14).

Jacob Prasch Commentary on J.D Farag April 21 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JX7jfJXvaM

Prasch's argument that those of us who believe in the rapture should stand together is based on defective fleshly reasoning and it is unscriptural. Should we stand together with false teachers who persistently put the body of Christ in peril by peddling this false doctrine knowing its flaws full well?  I believe that we should attempt to reason with those who have been indoctrinated by pre-trib lies of course, but, the pre-trib leadership is corrupt to the core, as Prasch himself demonstrates in the above video! The scriptures say that we should watch our lives and doctrine closely, and that we should persevere in them. (1 Timothy 4:16).  BOTH of these vital ingredients are missing from the pre-trib leadership camp! Prasch repeated the same old material about various dishonest pre-trib leaders: The fact that Thomas Ice is an unaccredited "doctor" of nothing and his defective hermeneutic is very well known. The fact that Tim LaHaye and his cronies supported Sun Myung Moon (Moonies), who claimed to be the Messiah, the Lord of the Second Advent, is also well documented:  "Moon was actually crowned Messiah and Savior of Earth on March 23, 2004 at the Dirksen Senate Office Building in Washington D.C, where scores of Christian leaders as well as several U.S. Senators and Representatives met for this very blasphemous occasion. Southern Baptist leaders were on hand, as were Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) President Paul Crouch, Reverend Jerry Falwell, Rev. Robert Schuller, Kenneth Copeland, Pat Boone and many others. Moon claims Jesus failed on his mission to earth but Moon has not." {1} The pre-trib circus would be laughable if it were not so incredibly dangerous!

John MacArthur's lie that it will be possible for people to take the mark of the beast and to repent and be saved is also well documented. MacArchur and Jimmy DeYoung speak as though the Jews who will be saved during the great tribulation will take the mark of the beast. This argument is completely asinine; the Jews will flee from the persecution of the Antichrist (probably to Petra?) for the final 3.5 years of the 70th week of Daniel. (Matthew 24:15-16; Revelation 12:14). The Antichrist will not be able to touch them; they will definitely NOT take the mark of the beast! (Revelation 12:15-16). A number of Gentiles will also be saved (e.g. Revelation 11:13), but there is no indication that they will have taken the mark of the beast! The beast (Antichrist) will be allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. (Revelation 13:5). It is during the great tribulation that the three angels will deliver their message to those who dwell on the earth:

Then I saw another angel flying directly overhead, with an eternal gospel to proclaim to those who dwell on earth, to every nation and tribe and language and people. And he said with a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come, and worship him who made heaven and earth, the sea and the springs of water.” Another angel, a second, followed, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, she who made all nations drink the wine of the passion^a of her sexual immorality.” And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.” (Revelation 14:6-11).

MacArthurs teaching goes directly against the teaching of the book of Revelation. Why would the first angel proclaim the gospel, and why would the third angel warn people against taking the mark of the beast if they had already taken it? His arguments are not only nonsensical, they are irresponsible in the extreme! MacArthur not only risks his own salvation, but also the salvation of others - it doesn't get much worse!

Adding or taking away from the scriptures is a very dangerous occupation:

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, (Revelation 22:18 cf. Revelation 22:7; Proverbs 30:6; Deuteronomy 4:2 ).

The root of pretribulationism appears to be the love of money. Like Darby, there are those who are determined to make a name for themselves and a good living at the expense of the body of Christ. (Genesis 11:4).

.....those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs. (1 Timothy 6:8-10 cf. Proverbs 15:27; Matthew 6:19; Matthew 13:22; 1 Timothy 3:3).

Everything that Prasch says about these pre-trib teachers is correct;  BUT, AND IT IS A HUGE BUT, there are too many anomalies connected with Prasch himself. Prasch is very selective about the false teachers he chooses to attack, as demonstrated by his support of ecumenical "prophets" David Noakes and Clifford Hill of ISSACHAR Ministries who are in partnership with interfaith/ecumenical Hope Together. Hill endorses the Roman Catholic Church and the Anglicans as being representative of true Christianity!!! {2} Are ISSACHAR Ministries and those associated with them any better than the pre-trib camp?   

THE INTRA-SEAL OFFENCE!

Prasch's unscriptural teachings:

Prasch has pronounced unequivocally that the Restrainer is the Holy Spirit.
The age of grace comes to an end during the 70th week of Daniel.
The Holy Spirit will be absent from the world during the 70th week.
The gospel will not be preached during the 70th week.
The Restrainer will be taken out of the way for the full 7 year period (the 70th week of Daniel).
Jesus' post ascension appearances to his disciples was a period of darkness.
The church will be powerless during the great tribulation.
The number ten is indicative of testing, based exclusively on only four verses of scripture. (Daniel 1:12-15).

Prasch claims to have definitive answers to the above eschatological topics and more, but his own hermeneutic is just as flawed and dangerous as that of Thomas Ice and John MacArthur!!! If we deny God's grace during the 70th week of Daniel, then we deny salvation to many precious souls that God wants to reach with the gospel during that time! Intra-seal is a denial of the gospel itself and the presence of God during the 70th week of Daniel!!! Please refer to my previous posts where I have tackled Prasch's Intra-seal doctrine extensively.

It is essential to study the scriptures for ourselves rather than rely on these renegades for truth, and that statement includes the machinations of Jacob Prasch!

Blessed is the man who makes the LORD his trust, who does not turn to the proud, to those who go astray after a lie! (Psalm 40:4).

{1} http://www.contendingfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads2/Exposed-Chuck-Missler-Tim-Lahaye-etc.pdf
{2} http://www.issacharministries.co.uk/images/april2013.pdf

https://www.amazon.co.uk/INTRA-SEAL-RAPTURE-DECEPTION-EXPOSED-devised-ebook/dp/B06X6N2JJT/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493969598&sr=8-1&keywords=treena+gisborn

David Reagan: Texas-Sized Repeater ! by Dave MacPherson

     Truthful prophecy writers are needed as much as truthful politicians - and I'm thinking of prophecy "six-shooter" David Reagan, a Texan who profits more by repeating than by researching!

     I'm honored that my decades-long research on pretrib rapture history is part of Joe Schimmel's fantastic DVD titled "Left Behind or Led Astray?" However, my documentation soon became a lightning rod attracting angry rebuttals from British pretrib defender Paul Wilkinson and also from American pretrib repeater David Reagan whose response is titled "In Defense of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture: Left Behind or Led Astray?"

     But something's missing. Reagan's response isn't Texas-sized. It isn't even Rhode Island-sized. And much of his "research" is merely his repeating of totally groundless - and malicious - gossip from other hired guns including some from Texas. Here's an example:

     My article "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty" - appearing on the net since 2009 - states:

     "Thomas Ice's article 'Inventor of False Pre-Trib Rapture History' states that my book 'The Rapture Plot' is 'only one of the latest in a series of revisions of his original discourse....' And David Reagan in his article 'The Origin of the Concept of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture' repeats Ice's falsehood by claiming that I have republished my first book ["The Unbelievable Pre-Trib Origin"] 'over the years under several different titles.' " (Google "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty" to see how I expose their deliberate prevarications.)

     Since my research used a "microscope" for close-ups on the pretrib origin (unlike many others who used a "telescope"covering so many centuries before and after the origin they somehow missed the exact origin itself!), allow me to comment on some points Reagan brought up.

     Because he saw older writers like Ribera, Edwards, and Lacunza as possibly being part of the pretrib origin search, I invite interested readers to Google "Catholics Did NOT Invent the Rapture," "Morgan Edwards' Rapture View," and "The Real Manuel Lacunza," and, no, neither Ribera nor Lacunza "believed the Rapture would occur 45 days before the end of the Tribulation," as Reagan, foolishly copying others, asserted.

     Re Margaret Macdonald (the real pretrib rapture originator), Reagan described her as a "hyper-Charismatic"who had "emotional trances in 1830 which are portrayed as demon-induced."

     For the record: I have never said (or even thought) that "demon" or "demonic" should ever be applied to her, or have ever believed she experienced anything like a "trance"!

     Her 1830 pretrib "revelation" (or "vision") was merely her INTERPRETATION of scripture, no matter what any pretrib "straw" men want to project!

     Reagan quotes "Rapture Ready" founder Todd Strandberg who says he can't recall ever hearing any speaker say "I believe in the Rapture because Margaret MacDonald told me so." What Todd doesn't want to recall are my Google pieces titled "Open Letter to Todd Strandberg" (dated 2001) and "The Rapture Index (Mad Theology)" (dated 2006).

     When Hal Lindsey's books write about "the one taken and the other left" before the Antichrist is "revealed," everyone knows he's expressing pretrib rapture doctrine. But when Reagan looked at Margaret's words saying the very same thing in the same order (in lines 58-63 in her 117-line pretrib discovery account), he had the audacity to declare that "not one trace of that [pretrib] doctrine could be found in the vision MacPherson presents as proof!"

     Naturally Reagan would never want anyone to Google "X-Raying Margaret," "Margaret Macdonald's Rapture Chart," "Margaret Macdonald's Main Point" (which shows Wilkinson and Ice deviously omitting all or part of her main point in order to dishonestly declare that she wasn't teaching pretrib!), "Pretrib Rapture's Missing Lines," and "Scholars Weigh My Research" (in which even "The Witness," the oldest and largest Darbyist Brethren publication in England, has endorsed my historical evidence about Margaret!!). 

     Reagan then discussed early Church Fathers. Since he evidently loves repeating more than researching, you may be wondering about the much-repeated "Pseudo-Ephraem" claim. But instead of wondering, feel free to Google "Pseudo-Ephraem Taught Pretrib - Not!" Other related Google items would include "Grant Jeffrey's Apocalypse Debacle" and "Wily Jeffrey."

     Reagan also talks about John Darby. Since many - including Darby idolizer Paul Wilkinson - still (wrongfully) view Darby as the "father" of pretrib dispensationalism, I invite all to Google "The Unoriginal John Darby," "John Darby Did NOT Invent the Rapture," and "Edward Irving Vs. John Darby."

     Since Reagan doesn't overlook Thomas Ice - the No. 1 pretrib "bulldog" or maybe "pit bull" - I hereby draw attention to these Google articles: "Pretrib Rapture Pride," "Walvoord Melts Ice," "Edward Irving is Unnerving," "Thomas Ice (Bloopers)," and "Be Careful in Polemics - Peripatetic Learning."

     Finally, one can wonder why David Reagan, with his background as an educator, is so taken up with the 187-year-old pretrib rapture. Perhaps it's because there's more profit in eschatology than there is in education!

EIGHT LOCAL LEICESTER CHURCHES NOW PARTICIPATING IN THE NEW WINE PROGRAMME!

You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times. (Matthew 16:3).

One man, with little or no Biblical discernment, was almost single handedly responsible for the spread of one of the most dangerous movements in the church today... The Latter Rain. This small movement that began in Canada, eventually became the cornerstone for various offshoots, the most prominent of which are (or were) Joel’s Army, First-Fruits, Identity, Manifest Sons of God, Restoration, Reconstruction, Kingdom Message, Elijah Company, Overcomers, etc.

- See more at: http://www.inplainsite.org/html/vineyard_churches.html#sthash.YphEjwrF.dpuf

New Wine was established in 1989 as a Christian festival run by Anglican clergy David Pytches and Barry Kissell. Pytches had close associations with a number of false prophets/teachers such as John Wimber, the Kansas City (false) Prophets, including Paul Cain and Mike Bickle, Mark Stibbe and "Mr Bam" himself aka Todd Bentley.

New Wine is currently advertising R.T. Kendall as a speaker at their 2017 July event.{1} R.T. Kendall is yet another hireling who has close connections with all of the above, as well as fraudster Morris Cerullo, Trinity denier Tommy Tenney and false prophet Gerald Coates.

GERALD COATES FALSE PROPHECY 1995

On April 20 1995 before 4,000 Christians at Spring Harvest, Gerald Coates, leader of the Pioneer network of charismatic churches, delivered the following prediction to Dr. R.T. Kendall, pastor of Westminster Chapel. Dr. Kendall believed it and circulated a letter containing the text of the prophecy to every member of his home congregation (dated December 16 1995). The full text of the prophecy is as follows:

"I wonder Dr. Kendall if you could come here please.
God has put such a deep concern - the seed in your heart for that place of Westminster. Not just the Chapel but for all of those that live in it - within its shadow. I see that God has narrowed you down and narrowed you down and narrowed you down and the cry has gone up so long as you walk the streets on a Saturday morning, as you've been at home in your apartment - 'How long, how long, how long, how long, how long, how long?' God has continued to narrow you down and narrow you down and narrow you down. He's beginning to take away everything that you thought you could trust in, all the things that were safe, but the Spirit of the Lord is upon you. The Spirit of the Lord will come upon you in increasing power, but you need to understand that over these next eighteen months although many attacks will come, that if you are faithful to God, faithful to all that He's taught you, faithful to your brothers and not seek to achieve in human strength what only God can achieve by His Holy Spirit, in eighteen months from this month, in eighteen months from April 1995 your church, Westminster Chapel, will be unrecognisable, completely utterly and totally unrecognisable. And as you walk with your God and allow Him to narrow you down and narrow you down, you will indeed become a man of great laughter and many tears, and as a result of that humility that God will bring about your attempts to bring about the things that you long to see will diminish and the Holy Spirit will increase in power. In eighteen months, in eighteen months, in eighteen months, in eighteen months the Spirit of God - not just upon Westminster Chapel, but upon Westminster itself, upon the high of the land, upon many who live in that area, is going to come on that place and many of your prayers - taxi drivers would get out of their taxis because the Spirit of God is so strong in that place - you're going to see them fulfilled. And it will come from the most unlikely sources, it will not come through the people you would like it to be through, it'll come through the most unlikely sources. And if you keep your heart and your eyes open the Spirit of God is going to surprise us all. The Spirit of God is going to surprise us all. I ask, Lord, for my friend Dr. Kendall, that You will fill him with Your Holy Spirit from the top of his head to the toes of his feet, fill with the presence of God, saturated and learning to carry that presence in his heart and his mind, in Jesus' Name... " {2}

In fact Westminster Chapel actually declined and numbers dwindled in the months and years that followed Coates' prophecy. This particular prophecy was one of a number of false prophecies made by Gerald Coates.

Seeker-Driven Pastor John Mark Comer will be the speaker for the second week of the New Wine event. Comer apparently promotes polytheism into the mainstream. {3}

John Wimber (1934-1997) was a major influence upon Pytches and New Wine. Wimber built what is known as "power evangelism" on the teachings of theologian George Eldon Ladd which led him to the opinion that miracles such as healings, words of knowledge and speaking in tongues play an essential role in bringing people to faith in Christ. Wimber: "I felt that God wanted me to concentrate on the relationship of supernatural signs and wonders to church growth during the decade." I personally do believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit and I am not writing this post from a cessationist point of view. I believe the problem with Wimber's theology is that it over emphasises the miraculous at the expense of the Gospel. In other words, Wimber subverted the biblical teaching that faith comes by hearing (Romans 10:17) and replaced it with the diametric opposite, pragmatism - if it works I will accept it and believe it. The great commission is very simple: Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation (Mark 16:15). Paul tells us that the gospel is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes (Romans 1:16). Wimber ventured into excessive experientialism and a dangerous mixture of truth and error which he later distanced himself from. The Bible tells us that an evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign (Matthew 12:39; 16:4; Luke 11:29). Wimber's mantra: "God is bigger than his written Word."  This arrogant statement is an outright denial of the sufficiency of the scriptures which are divinely inspired and give us EVERYTHING needed to live the Christian life. Christians are specifically warned not to go beyond what is written (1 Corinthians 4:6).  I have gone into more detail in a previous post. {4}

Paul Harcourt Regional Director for London and East:

Now and Not Yet of the Kingdom.
".....We want to press in to signs and wonders and miracles...  restoring the whole of creation...  Gods kingdom is pressing into this world and restoring the whole of creation. God is becoming once again Lord and King over His world.... As well as pressing in for the miraculous we also want to stand with those who haven't yet experienced their miracle. We want to pray that they would experience God's comfort, His love, His joy, His peace, even in the midst of their suffering....." {5}

This man teaches the diametric opposite of God's Word. There will be no restoration of creation until Jesus Christ returns and begins his millennial reign. (Isaiah 11:6-9). In the meantime we are called to preach the gospel and to worship God in Spirit and in Truth. (John 4:23). New Wine offers false hope, lies and ultimate disappointment to its followers.

As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are but the beginning of the birth pains. (Matthew 24:3-9).

Jesus goes on to speak about tribulation, apostasy, persecution, betrayal, false christs and false prophets, lawlessness, false signs and wonders, great tribulation culminating in the appearance of the man of sin and the abomination of desolation.

Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.....For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. (Matthew 24:9-28).

Jesus warns his followers explicitly about false teachers, false Christs and false signs and wonders three times in Matthew 24! 

An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah.” So he left them and departed. (Matthew 16:4).

But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. (2 Timothy 3:1-5).

John McGinley, Regional Director for the Midlands and East:
Continuity and Change.
John McGinley quotes Isaiah 43:18-19: Forget the former things, do not dwell on the past. See, I am doing a new thing, do you not perceive it? "He (God) is teaching them about continuity and change. 'You need to forget what I did in the past because I am going to do it in a new way.' We need to be willing to let go of how we have done it in the past and to seek the new things that God is calling us to. ..hold together these values of continuity and change." {6} 

Notice that change, miracles, experience and new things are at the epicentre of the New Wine Movement. They talk about unity and diversity, continuity and change.... their hopes are centred upon a new thing, but this hope is not what God's Word tells us to rely upon. New Wine offers something apart from the gospel of Jesus Christ. (Proverbs 30:6).

The Meadows Community Church in Wigston Leicester has also jumped onto the New Wine apostate bandwagon which operates under the authority of John McGinley of Holy Trinity Church in Leicester. I cannot say I am surprised. Apparently New Wine now has eight local churches in Leicester participating in its programme.

"The Learning Community is a group of eight local churches who meet every six months for prayer and planning for vision and growth." {7} 

{1} https://www.new-wine.org/
{2} http://op.50megs.com/ditc/coates.htm
{3} http://www.donotbesurprised.com/2013/01/seeker-driven-pastor-brings-polytheism.html
{4} https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/new-wine-deception-holy-trinity-church.html
{5} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pzuKcRWMrs&list=PLKUxSrvacjrU4vfQ6FGM5L45nd5rCnUqR&index=7
{6} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnCiZ5GZc88&index=1&list=PLKUxSrvacjrU4vfQ6FGM5L45nd5rCnUqR
{7} http://meadowscc.org.uk/#