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Saturday 4 August 2018

TRINITY LIFE CHURCH LEICESTER: FESTERING ECUMENISM AND APOSTASY!

The Second Beast: Revelation 13:11-18

11Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. 12It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. 13It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, 14and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. 16Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. 18This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.

If you attend a mainstream church, it is highly unlikely that they will give any in depth teaching from the book of Revelation. The above passage refers to the "second beast", i.e. the harbinger of the first beast, the Antichrist. (Revelation 13:1-11). It is probable that the image of the beast is the “abomination that causes desolation” in the rebuilt third Jerusalem temple. (Daniel 9:27; Matthew 24:15). Historically many theologians recognise that the second beast will be a "religious" figure due to his identification as the false prophet. (Revelation 16:13; 19:20; 20:10). Many antichrists have already come, but the scriptures are specific that there will be a final figure, the Man of Sin. Paul gives this “man of sin” various names, or descriptors, which could only be applicable to an individual human being. (1 John 2:18). The Roman Catholic Church deceptively teach that both Jesus Christ and the sacraments are necessary for salvation. (2 Corinthians 11:4). This is a denial of the gospel that proclaims Jesus Christ alone as the saviour of the world. (Proverbs 30:6; Deuteronomy 4:2; Revelation 22:18). Indeed the RCC do have a form of godliness, but they deny the power of the true gospel. (2 Timothy 3:5). It is critical to recognise that the ecumenical movement being promoted by the RCC is a deceptive shift from the true gospel of Jesus Christ to the false gospel of the coming Antichrist, the coming one world religion and the New World Order. The word "antichrist", from anti and christos, is either one who puts himself in the place of, or is the enemy (opponent) of the Messiah. In fact both these definitions apply to the Antichrist.

Trinity Life Church Leicester

TLC: "We love God, love people and are passionate about Jesus, discipleship, compassion, mission and you." {1} TLC claims to be "all about Jesus", but are they really? They further claim that "the Bible is the Word of God." {2}  

The above statements show TLC to be utter hypocrites. Anyone making such serious professions of faith should shun ALL connection with the ecumenical movement, and yet there are a number of instances where TLC have knowingly partnered with this wicked movement. (2 Corinthians 6:14).

“Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you?" (Luke 6:46).

“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.." (John 14:15).


A Tree and Its Fruit
15“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. 18A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.

I Never Knew You
21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’.’ (Matthew 7:15-23).


Just as many Jewish leaders were not prepared for Jesus' first coming and put obstacles in the way of true faith, many within organised Christendom will not be prepared for His second coming. (Luke 18:8).

TLC is spreading like a cancer throughout Leicestershire via its unbiblical of expansion of satellite churches. (2 Timothy 2:17). They presently have seven campuses; the latest addition, launching in September, will be TLC Birstall. {3} There is no example of a multisite church in the New Testament. The clear scriptural model is that of Paul and Barnabus, whose practice was to plant new churches, to appoint leaders with prayer and fasting, and to release them into the care of the Lord: And when they had appointed elders for them in every church, with prayer and fasting they committed them to the Lord in whom they had believed. (Acts 14:23 cf. 2 Timothy 2:2; Titus 1:5).
Open Hands Trust

The latest example of TLC's descent into ungodliness can be found at their infamous 6 Degrees Coffee House which is the enterprise of the Open Hands Trust. I have written about this subject previously. {4} The Open Hands Trust was established in 2006 by Trinity Life Church. 

Open Hands: "..with a heart to help those most vulnerable and disadvantaged in society, welcoming any in need through the doors of our Compassion Centre and inspiring hope for the future.
Our strap line ‘Compassion in Action’ expresses our belief in being active at all times with compassion, offering hope in every situation through providing food, clothing, furniture, skills training, mentoring, advice and a listening ear. The charity runs the majority of its services out of its Compassion Centre in Highfields (Leicester), which receives over 200 visits each week, but also runs an OFSTED approved preschool in two areas of the city and a thriving and profitable subsidiary company, ‘6 Degrees Coffee House’, in order to support the charity’s good work." {5}

We should bear in mind that the Antichrist will be a great philanthropist. (John 12:4-5). There is of course only one hope for the future. (Ephesians 4:4). Open Hands do not offer the gospel alongside their various charitable works. In fact by their own actions, Open Hands effectively bound the gospel in 2013, due to the contract they entered into with their sponsors, the Big Lottery Fund. (2 Timothy 2:9; 1 Corinthians 9:16). The Big Lottery Fund regulations state: "Crucially, the activities undertaken with lottery money cannot promote religion or belief." {6} I have addressed the ethical implications of TLC's lottery funding in a previous post. {7}

Among the active directors of the Open Hands Trust are David and Susan Hind, the senior leaders of TLC, Brian Niblock, former pastor and now an elder at TLC, and Colin Jewitt, who is a Director of both TLC and Open Hands. {8}

Open Hands partners: Trinity Life Church Leicester, Knighton Free Church, St Wilfrid's Church Kibworth (CofE), New Life Church Fleckney, Leicester Jesus Centre (formerly Jesus Army), KingsGate Community Church Leicester, Living Rock (Midlands), St Christopher's Church Leicester (CofE), Abundant Pentecostal Church Leicester, Avenue Road Community Church Glen Parva and The Oak Centre Braunstone.

I do not know where all the above churches stand regarding their relationship with Jesus Christ and I cannot comment on all of them. However I can speak about what I do know.
  • The Church of England is openly and rabidly ecumenical. TLC's ecumenical links clearly continue to fester!
  • I attended Knighton Free Church (KFC) for a very brief period of time a few years ago as a last ditch attempt to find true biblical fellowship in an organised church. However, it quickly became apparent that KFC had links with the CofE.. as demonstrated by their occasional guest speakers from St Mary's Church Knighton participation in their services. During my brief time at KFC, their minister, Andrew Upton, introduced the aberrant teachings of Bill Hybels, the now disgraced megachurch pastor, {9} and one of the ignominious signatories of the interfaith response to "A Common Word Between Us and You" (2007). I sent Andrew Upton ten pages of information about this Islamic/Christian document as he appeared to know nothing at all about it! {10} To seal KFC's fate as far as my involvement was concerned, the leader of the home group I attended denied the existence of eternal punishment. I did mention to him that if you deny eternal punishment, then you must also deny eternal salvation, since the same word, αἰώνιος, applies to both situations. (Matthew 25:46). During a very distressing meeting with Andrew Upton and his assistant, they decided that I had the problem! After they recommended the teachings of Calvinist heretic John Piper, it soon became clear to me that it would be sheer madness to remain! (Ephesians 5:11; 2 John 1:9-11). I now strongly suspect that KFC is a Calvinist church.
  • Leicester Jesus Centre is the abusive cult formerly known as Jesus Army which has been in the media of late.
  • The Oak Centre is the Braunstone branch of TLC.

TLC's idolatry of the Royal Family is completely out of sync with the scriptures! 6 Degrees Coffee House recently celebrated the Royal Wedding. I have nothing personal against Meghan Markle or the Royal Family, but they do not follow biblical Christianity. In God's eyes we are all sinners and I do hope and pray that they will repent and be saved. (Romans 3:23-24). Meghan Markle divorced her first husband, Trevor Engelson, in 2013, on the grounds of irretrievable breakdown. TLC's celebration of this wedding is a significant departure from the biblical principles they have historically defended. In biblical terms, remarriage is absolutely prohibited except by reason of sexual immorality. (Matthew 5:32; 19:9 1 Corinthians 7:9-10 cf. Malachi 2:16). John the Baptist reproved Herod Antipas for his illicit (adulterous) marriage to his brothers wife. (Mark 6:18; Leviticus 18:16, 20:21). For TLC to support such an event gives their approval to divorce and remarriage and it is a slap in the face to Jesus Christ. (James 4:4). Apart from that, the Royal Family are undeniably entrenched in the occult, their "religion" being more akin to Freemasonry than biblical Christianity. Queen Elizabeth II is the Grand Patroness of Freemasonry. Their obvious connection with the Druids and with various secret societies speaks for itself. {11}

I wrote previously that Open Hands' 6 Degrees Coffee House is completely saturated in the number of the beast, 666. (Revelation 13:18). In fact TLC seem unable to shake off this wicked number to this very day. We might have sighed a sigh of relief that TLC have at last changed the three sixes on the front of their building, but nevertheless they cannot resist putting the third six somewhere or other, or multiples thereof in various forms. In fact the very logo itself comprises of six outer sixes and the yin yang coffee beans! This wicked logo is an abomination and the antithesis of Jesus Christ and the scriptures.

It is a well known fact that Satanists use backwards numbers and letters!

How many multiples of 666 are there above?









The fallacy of 6 degrees of separation may be the academic equivalent of an urban myth according to scientists.

Harry..  masonic hidden hand signal - devil's horns.
I am reliably informed that if you visit 6 Degrees Coffee House (I do not recommend it), you would not realise that it has anything to do with Christianity at all. When TLC have finished celebrating ecumenism, false prophets and doctrines, trivia, quiz nights, myths, comedy nights, clothes swish and illicit marriages, perhaps they will give a little time to considering the Word of God! (2 Timothy 3:1-5).


Princess Elizabeth's initiation into the Welsh Druids.

Sunday 29 July 2018

A CHALLENGE FOR SERVUS CHRISTI!

Servus Christi's website is http://beginningofsorrows.org/ The name of Servus Christi is Joshua Chavez, although he is also known by various other names.

Chavez has written a number of posts about what is known as "secondary separation" aka "guilt by association", implicating Calvinist teachers Paul Washer, John MacArthur John Piper and Justin Peters. Pupit and Pen have responded to these accusations: Demolishing Servus Christi with Two Screenshots, stating "..this is more akin to the game 'Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon,' than sound exegesis."{1}

The doctrine of separation is a dominant theme throughout the scriptures. The prohibition of participation in, and identification with, blatant godlessness and unbelief is an undeniable biblical imperative. This imperative is undoubtedly applicable to fellow believers and compromised Christian ministries: 2 Thessalonians 3:6,14; Romans 16:17 1 Corinthians 5:1–1.

If the above teachers have had some kind of secondary association with ecumenicals, this should not surprise us at all, since their primary error is Calvinism. This means that their biblical understanding of soteriology is skewed on a fundamental level. Until this error is addressed and rectified, then we should expect further errors to follow. The fact that these so called "teachers" are Calvinists, is, by itself, sufficient reason to separate from them, since soteriology is a primary issue i.e. limited atonement quite literally limits the gospel of Jesus Christ! (2 Corinthians 11:4).

I have read some good articles on Beginning of Sorrows, but Chavez does not seem to engage in any kind of deep theological study or discussion, rather he focuses on surface issues and emotional responses.

Unfortunately Chavez's endorsement of Jacob Prasch is misplaced. If only believers would take the time and trouble to study the scriptures as we are exhorted to do, Prasch's error would become obvious. (2 Timothy 2:15).

To reiterate the error of Prasch's intra-seal theory: He erroneously merges three primary passages of scripture incorporating the "birth pangs" motif, namely, the Olivet Discourse Matthew 24:9, 21, 29; Revelation 12 and John 16:20-22.

These three passages illustrate three completely different scenarios:
  • Mathew 24 refers to the beginning of sorrows (birth pains) as worldwide phenomena during the first half of the 70th week of Daniel, inflicted by the four horsemen of the apocalypse. (Revelation 6).
  • Revelation 12 refers to the woman, Israel, and the birth of Jesus Christ.
  • John 16:20-22 refers to the birth of the church. John did not primarily address the end times as per the synoptic gospels because he wrote the book of Revelation. Revelation is a confirmation of Matthew 24.
A text without a context is a pretext for a proof text.

The discussion on Facebook copied below demonstrates Chavez's staunch support for Prasch. In one respect this is admirable, since we should support good bible teachers. However in this particular instance, I do recommend that Chavez undertakes a comprehensive study the above passages in order to "test the spirits", and to "prove all things", rather than summarily rejecting any doubts expressed about Prasch without considering the evidence. (1 John 4:1; 1 Thessalonians 5:21). If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame. (Proverbs 18:13). I do in fact understand Chavez's position. I also supported Prasch for a number of years until the details of intra-seal became problematic for me. A number of Prasch's followers have informed me that they simply "do not understand" intra-seal. This no excuse. We are to pay close attention to doctrines. (1 Timothy 4:16). Even a little study in this area will reveal the flaws in Prasch's convoluted theory.

Why is the intra-seal theory so dangerous? 
  • Intra-seal denies the presence of the Holy Spirit in the world for the entire 70th week of Daniel. Whoever the Restrainer of 2 Thessalonians 2:6-7 is, he is not taken out of the way until the mid point of the "week". (Daniel 9:27).
  • Intra-seal denies conviction of sin in unbelievers for the entire 70th Week of Daniel.
  • Intra-seal denies the Gospel of Jesus Christ for this entire seven year period of time. (Revelation 14:6).
  • Intra-seal is disinformation. It is Prasch's attempt to add to the confusion already surrounding the subject of the rapture amongst believers. In my view this is a deliberate ploy to create uncertainty and spiritual blindness as we enter the 70th week.

Prasch appears to be an "impressive" teacher in certain respects. However, when someone teaches serious error on such an important subject as eschatology, it throws their whole ministry into doubt. (1 Corinthians 5:6).

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. (Revelation 22:18-19 cf. Proverbs 30:6).

Joshua Chavez, I believe that you are suffering from a severe case of cognitive dissonance where Prasch is concerned. You have dismissed the evidence presented in response to a specific claim by continually demanding some other (unfulfillable) piece of evidence. Obviously I could not present a comprehensive argument against intra-seal on FB comments. Closed-minded, defensive, truth-resistant people often shoot the messenger and hide their head in the sand.. this attitude is definitely not recommended for someone claiming to be in the discernment ministry! I have tried to respond to you graciously, and I hope that you will undertake some serious bible study in this area rather than responding on a superficial level as you did on FB. God bless you.



Servus Christi

· 20 July at 22:24 · 

If you do not already, I highly recommend following/supporting the ministry of Moriel TV and James Jacob Prasch. Balanced and indispensable bible teaching for these days will be found here without compromise. You can find MorielTV on Roku, Vimeo and YouTube. I don't recommend people lightly.

Here is one such excellent teaching about the state of affairs in the church today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFi1ypzIFJU



Why We Left and Why We Came-Hayes First Session-Jacob Prasch Moriel TV is active in the…

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Moriel TV Why thank you good sir


Servus Christi I wouldn't feed someone a meal I wouldn't eat myself. Good "food" to be found at Moriel. Thank you.



I’m new to him but starting listening since I first heard you mention him.


Kristin Kiger Kernan I would add David Nathan, YouTube channel is his name, and Bill Randles at Believers in Grace YouTube channel.


Helen Morris I have been listening to James for the last couple of years and enjoy his commentaries. One of the most solid teachers I have come across.


Leslie Osterthaler Couldn’t agree more, the TRUTH of the WORD is found with this ministry and it’s solid teachings!




Paula Coyle oh my gosh no. Please no. These guys are as bad or worse than the guys you have been exposing. This is incredibly disappointing.




Servus Christi In what way? Please be specific.




Jolyn M Arterbury I love his teachings! Eve n if it is a subject I know a lot about, I always learn something new!




Cal Teichmann I can not support this man. He called Chuck Smith Sr. a true man of God in a video which I watched, which I totally disagree with because Chuck Smith was a heretic, maybe he is ignorant of Chuck Smith's past, but it is easily to find out he who and what Chuck Smith believed in and with whom he supported.
There were other's that I have a problem with that Jacob Prasch supported. I will find the video and link it to you.
But I have agreed with some things he teaches, but I have a problem that he NEVER allows any comments on his video's to correct his false leanings!
So I also can not agree with you on this man....at this time.

Servus Christi Is it your contention that telling someone to repent is preaching works, yes or no?
Define, specifically how Billy Graham "preached works"

Regarding your article... You should be able to voice Chuck's "heresy" in a sentence or two. That you're not doing that is telling. I'm well acquainted with Chuck Smith. State one or two of the reasons he's a heretic.

Treena Gisborn I am surprised you are recommending this intra-seal hooligan who has now decided that Billy Graham was a good evangelist! Where is your discernment?

Heather N Christian Do you think that people who believe something other than a pre-trib rapture are “hooligans”?

Servus Christi Martyn Lloyd-Jones commended Billy's evangelism as well, but not his actions. Was Lloyd-Jones a "hooligan" as well?

Treena Gisborn I am not pre-trib Heather... I suggest you do a bit of study into Prasch's intra-seal theory - it is full of errors!!! https://www.amazon.co.uk/INTRA-SEAL-RAPTURE.../dp/B06X6N2JJT Alternatively I have written several posts on this subject: …See moreManage


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Treena Gisborn Servus Christi -- I called him a "hooligan" because he was wearing a t-shirt with "hooligan" plastered all over it when he was teaching his false intra-seal deception at one point! You should do your homework on Prasch. Yes he teaches SOME truth.. but BEWARE. God bless.

Treena Gisborn I fully endorsed Martyn Lloyd Jones stand against Billy Graham. However Billy Graham was not a "good" evangelist since he did not give the whole gospel.. eg. he did not believe in hell/eternal damnation. He was mixed up with the Rockefellers.. https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/.../southern...Manage



Treena Gisborn Heather N Christian I am not pre-trib heather. Like many others I was fooled by Prasch for a long time. God bless.

Cal Teichmann Treena Gisborn Yes anyone that does NOT call Billy Graham a heretic is highly questionable in their discernment and their Gospel.
Thank you for putting this up!

Cal Teichmann Treena Gisborn And Billy Graham's so-called evangelism was a works salvation, anyone who considers themselves a "teacher/Pastor" should be warning the Sheep of ALL who follow a different Gospel and a false Christ!
If they do not then they are NOT lovin…See more

Treena Gisborn I think you are right Cal. I am not a Calvinist.. John MacArthur 's teaching raises some very serious questions. We really do need to "test all things" 1 Thessalonians 5:21. God bless you.

Cal Teichmann Treena Gisborn And you.

You're not pre-trib yet you have an unhealthy obsession with Jacob's NON pretrib view?
You sound confused.
Your comment about him being a "hooligan" is disingenuous. You said it to slander and now you're lying.
So please share with the class what your eschatological view is and why you are so perturbed by Jacob's view.
Keep it brief. We're not interested in you promoting your 78 page leaflet. Summarize, please.

Servus Christi And Cal, for all of Billy's faults, preaching a "works" was not one of them. What are you even talking about?

Cal Teichmann Servus Christi Are you serious Billy Graham's "FAULTS"?!
He was a heretic, he was involved with the Mason's!
He preached a false Gospel, and honored the Pope!
How can you say that?
BG stated on live television the Pope went to Heaven!
Faults! How about false Gospel!

Cal Teichmann Servus Christi By the way BG lead people into the sinners prayer at his so-called Crusades. Then sent them out to various churches which included the Roman Catholic church!
Faults!

Servus Christi I'm asking you to substantiate "works" salvation preached by Billy Graham. Nothing else.

Treena Gisborn Perhaps I have an obsession with the truth SC. Prasch's intra-seal teaching is full of errors. If you don't want to read my material then fine, but I do suggest you do your own research. As I have already explained, he was wearing a t shirt with "Hooli…See more

Treena Gisborn Just to add - Prasch teaches that no-one will be saved during the entire 70th week of Daniel... This is very serious error. Please do your own research.


I asked for a summary you have still not provided. Provide a direct quote from Jacob and why you find it to be biblically in error. This shouldn't be that hard.

Treena Gisborn "There will be no church, no preaching of the gospel and no Holy Spirit during the 70th week of Daniel...." Really SC I suggest you watch for yourself on YouTube. Do you think this is a denial of the gospel? I have done the work, but if people refuse to look at it there is nothing more I can do. I did try to question Prasch about this doctrine, but he became very abusive when I pressed him! God is no respecter of persons... even the mighty JP! God bless.

Treena Gisborn also "and no conviction of sin" I have quoted him verbatim a number of times.. but the same old problem... people love their favourite teachers more than the Word!

Servus Christi You have failed to provide a biblical objection to those statements. An assertion is not an argument.

Cal Teichmann Treena Gisborn I do have a question. What about the Two Prophets that will preach in Jerusalem for 3 yrears, then they will be killed, then resurrected? Is that not preaching?
I am not being antagonistic here a sincere question.
Thank you.

Cal Teichmann Treena Gisborn I actually have found that on Jacob Prasch's youtube videos, no comments are allowed.
I find that very disconcerting.

Treena Gisborn Cal Teichmann Exactly Cal.... What is the point of the two prophets if not to preach the gospel? Also an angel from heaven warns the inhabitants of earth not to take the mark... Rev:14:9 "And at that hour there was a great earthquake, and a tenth of the city fell. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the rest were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven." Revl :11:13... Clearly people ARE saved during the 70th week. God bless.

Treena Gisborn Prasch "Once Satan fails to prevent the rapture by killing all the believers.. he turns against the Jews." (18:00) This is a blatant reversal of events as they are recorded in the scriptures! (Revelation 22:18). Satan turns against the Jews before the tribulation! (Revelation 12:13-17). Prasch has moved the goal posts significantly here! If the rapture occurs before the flight of Israel, then this would put the timing of the rapture before the mid point of the week, but Prasch has already stated that the rapture will occur between the sixth and seventh seals. Prasch: "The fifth seal begins the persecution of the church... After the rapture God pours out his wrath on the kingdom of Antichrist and refocuses on the redemption of Israel." God's focus goes back to Israel at the mid point of the 70th week when He protects them from the Antichrist. (Revelation 12:13-16; cf. Zechariah 12:10). The Jews flee to the wilderness, and shortly afterwards, in his frustration, the Antichrist turns his attention towards Christians. (Revelation 12:17). God continues to protect Israel for the period of the tribulation (3.5 years cut short). Israel remains on the earth after the rapture during the Day of the Lord i.e. the wrath of God, though obviously they do not experience the wrath with the rest of the world. This blatant scripture twisting just about sums up the ministry of Jacob Prasch!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB13W4cvbd8&feature=youtu.be If you really want to listen to thirty minutes of Prasch's scripture twisting this is a good example. Be careful SC Prasch is PROVABLY a false teacher.


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UPDATE 1st August 2018: I originally thought that Servus Christi aka Joshua Chavez was delusional in his support for Jacob Prasch/Moriel whom he now works for as an administrator. I have changed my mind. Chavez is just the right person to carry out Moriel's dirty work. Beware!

Tim Wirth: "Hi everyone I want to introduce everyone to Josh Chav. He will help with admin duties as well as Moriel YouTube, Vimeo and Roku. Josh is a great guy and runs a very solid website Servus Christi. I would encourage you to sign up at his site here. I will be on a temporary hiatus from Moriel to focus on my first ministry which is my wife. Make sure you welcome Josh. Moriel, as well as myself, are blessed to have his kind assistance. Thank you for your continued prayers and blessings in Jesus -Tim" {2}

1. http://pulpitandpen.org/2018/03/23/demolishing-servus-christi-two-screenshots/
2. https://www.facebook.com/pg/MorielTV/posts/?ref=page_internal

Saturday 28 July 2018

JACOB PRASCH MAKE UP YOUR MIND: HOW LONG IS THE TRIBULATION?

Jacob Prasch now asserts that the tribulation is not a seven year period after all..  Astonishing!

The End Times Explained ( clearing up confusion ) Jacob Prasch

This is a startling turn-around considering Prasch's previous messages in which he vociferously teaches the seven year tribulation myth. He has included the phrase "Seven Year Tribulation", in the titles of at least two of his previous messages and has made the assertion in another. This is demonstrably the kind of inconsistency and deliberate confusion we are dealing with where Prasch is concerned:

The Restrainer and Seven Year Tribulation: 
The Great Restrainer and Seven Year Tribulation:
The First 3 1/2 Years of Tribulation:

Prasch: "You can't prove the great tribulation is the full seven years.. They (the pre-trib camp) have no basis to say that the great tribulation is the full seven years - presupposition, and tribulation equals wrath. 'Therefore because we are not appointed to wrath we won't be here because wrath equals tribulation and tribulation is the full seven years.' Prove it!" (35:00).

The biblical passage in question refers to "tribulation" three times: Matthew 24:9, 21, 29.

Having differentiated between wrath (orge), and tribulation (thlipsis), Prasch points out that the 70th week of Daniel i.e. the final seven year period of history, is broken down into three periods: 
The beginning of sorrows, the great tribulation and the Day of the Lord. 
The wrath is of course applicable to the Day of the Lord, not the tribulation.

In Matthew 24:9 "tribulation" follows "birth pains", coinciding with betrayal amongst brothers, at, or just after, the mid-point of the "week". (2 Thessalonians 2:3; Revelation 12:17). Noticeably the tribulation is absent during the "beginning of sorrows" (birth pains), which are defined as wars, famines, pestilences and earthquakes:

For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. THEN shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. (Matthew 24:7-8).

I thoroughly demolished Prasch's teaching on the seven year tribulation in July 2017:
Jacob Prasch Moriel Ministries: Say What! The Seven Year Tribulation Debunked!

So much for clearing up confusion! Having taught so vigorously that the tribulation is a seven year period of time, I wonder that Prasch's followers are not now thoroughly confused! Incredible casuistry!