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Tuesday, 8 December 2015

A COMPILATION OF SHOCKING KENNETH COPELAND QUOTES - AN APPEAL TO MR. ALEX ASHTON OF KENNETH COPELAND MINISTRIES, PASTOR OF VINE CHRISTIAN CENTRE, BRIDGEND. BY ROB THOMAS WATCHMAN4WALES

A VERY INFORMATIVE POST BY ROB THOMAS WATCHMAN4WALES 

 

"For many walk, of whom I have told you often, 
and now tell you even weeping, 
that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, 
and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things."
(Philippians 3:18-19)

"With hell are we at agreement... and
under falsehood have we hid ourselves."
Kenneth Copeland and Pope Francis, 6/14.
"But there were false prophets also among the people, 
even as there shall be false teachers among you,
who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, 
even denying the Lord that bought them, 
and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; 
by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of." 
(2 Peter 2:1-2)

THE PURPOSE OF THIS BLOG IS TO PRESENT RELEVANT INFORMATION AND TO ASK PERTINENT QUESTIONS. IT'S NOT ABOUT ENGAGING IN A "WITCH-HUNT" BUT TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE STOP AND THINK, AND TO HOPEFULLY CHANGE THEIR MIND ABOUT HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE THINGS THAT THEY MAY BE INVOLVED IN. IT'S ALL ABOUT EARNESTLY CONTENDING FOR THE FAITH WHICH WAS ONCE AND FOR ALL TIME DELIVERED UNTO THE SAINTS.

WITH THIS INTENTION FIRMLY IN MIND, WHAT CAN - AND MUST - BE SAID CONCERNING SUCH A ONE AS PURPOSELY PARTNERS WITH A SHEEP-FLEECING SPIRITUAL REPROBATE AND EAR-TICKLING 'WORD OF FAITH' DECEIVER LIKE KENNETH COPELAND? ASSUREDLY, THERE IS NO GLORY IN SUCH A UNION, ONLY SHAME. CERTAINLY, THERE IS NO HONOUR, ONLY DISGRACE. WOEFULLY, THERE IS NEITHER WISDOM NOR DISCERNMENT, ONLY ABJECT FOLLY AND A WRETCHED FAILURE TO TEST THE SPIRITS. BUT ABOVE ALL SUCH CONSIDERATIONS AS THESE, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO JUSTIFICATION BEFORE GOD FOR SUCH AN UNRIGHTEOUS ALLIANCE, ONLY AN IGNOMINIOUS ACCOUNTABILITY.

It is in this context that I reproduce here a copy of the email I sent on Monday 30th. November 2015 (referencing my original email of Monday 23rd. November) to Mr. Alex Ashton, pastor of Vine Christian Centre in Bridgend, South Wales. I had hoped by such contact to have a constructive dialogue with Mr. Ashton, but very disappointingly he has not seen fit to respond to my approach to him in any way whatsoever.

Readers of this blog may draw their own conclusions about Mr. Ashton's complete silence on this important matter. For myself, my deep desire remains that he will at some point come to properly confront rather than ignore his personal culpability, and duly disassociate himself completely from Kenneth Copeland Ministries.

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(Sent Monday 30th. November, 2015)

FOR THE ATTENTION OF MR. ALEX ASHTON

Dear Mr. Ashton,

As I have received no response to my email of Monday 23rd. November, I respectfully repeat my appeal to you in regards to this important matter, and would again politely ask if you would care to comment on the compilation of Kenneth Copeland quotes that I forwarded to you.

Sincerely, in Jesus our Lord and Saviour,
Rob Thomas.
www.watchman4wales.blogspot.co.uk

Here is a copy of my original email:

FOR THE ATTENTION OF MR. ALEX ASHTON
With regards to your being both a Director of Kenneth Copeland Ministries (Europe) - UK Company No. 01722542, and a Trustee of Kenneth Copeland Ministries (Europe) - UK Charity No. 326392, I respectfully wish to bring to your attention the following compilation of Kenneth Copeland quotes, garnered from his own writings and recordings.

I would appeal to you, sir, as a very involved supporter of this man's UK/European operations, to give your most urgent and careful consideration to these quotes, and to evaluate them in light of what the Word of God reveals as unchanging truth about such things. 

As born-again, Bible-believing Christians, surely we should have huge concerns about what this man is shown here to believe and teach? As it is written, "A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump" (1 Corinthians 5:6 and Galatians 5:9), and the leaven evidenced here is so very much more than just a little! 

In bringing these quotes to your attention, would you perhaps be so good as to offer your opinion on them, as there is not just the leaven of error here but obvious heresy and unashamed blasphemy?

In light of this, could I further appeal to you to question your personal role in so actively promoting a man who so determinedly diminishes God and elevates men? This is a man who is proven by the record of his own utterances to preach "another Jesus" (2 Corinthians 11:4) and "another gospel, which is not another." (Galatians 1:6-7)

Sincerely, in Jesus our Lord and Saviour,
Rob Thomas.
www.watchman4wales.blogspot.co.uk

  
SOME KENNETH COPELAND QUOTES

KENNETH COPELAND'S ELEVATION OF HIMSELF TO GODHOOD:
When I read in the Bible where He says, "I AM," I just smile and say, "Yes, I AM too!"

KENNETH COPELAND'S ELEVATION OF ALL BELIEVERS TO GODHOOD:
1) Every Christian is a god.


2) You don't have a god in you - you are one!

3) Now Peter said, "By exceeding great and precious promises you become partakers of the divine nature." Alright. Are we gods? We are a class of gods!

KENNETH COPELAND'S INSTRUCTION TO MEN TO PRAY TO THEMSELVES, AS BEING ONE WITH THE GODHEAD:
Pray to your self, because I'm in your self and you're in my Self. We are one Spirit, saith the Lord.

KENNETH COPELAND, CONCERNING MEN'S ABILITY:
You have the same creative faith and ability on the inside of you that God used when He created the heavens and the earth.

KENNETH COPELAND'S CLAIM THAT ADAM WAS GOD INCARNATE: 
God's reason for creating Adam was His desire to reproduce Himself. I mean a reproduction of Himself, and in the Garden of Eden He did just that. He was not a little like God. He was not almost like God. He was not subordinate to God even... Adam is as much like God as you could get, just the same as Jesus... Adam, in the Garden of Eden, was God manifested in the flesh.

KENNETH COPELAND'S TEACHING THAT GOD REPLICATED HIMSELF IN ADAM: 
1) God spoke Adam into existence in authority with words. These words struck Adam's body in the face. His body and God were exactly the same size.

2) If you stood Adam upside God, they look just exactly alike. If you stood Jesus and Adam side-by-side, they would look and sound exactly alike.

KENNETH COPELAND'S ASSERTION THAT GOD HAS A (HUMAN-SIZED) PHYSICAL BODY:
1) So you see, that faith didn't come billowing out of some giant monster somewhere. It came out of the heart of a being that is very uncanny the way He's very much like you and me. A being that stands somewhere around 6' 2, 6' 3, that weighs somewhere in the neighbourhood of a couple of hundred pounds, little better...

2) God is a spirit-being with a body, complete with eyes, and eyelids, ears, nostrils, a mouth, hands and fingers, and feet.

KENNETH COPELAND'S ANDROGYNOUS ADAM AND ANDROGYNOUS GOD:
And then He created Eve out of Adam... When God said "Adam!" they both came... They had always been together. Even when she was still a part of him, he was as much female as he was male, like God is!

KENNETH COPELAND'S BELIEF THAT FAITH IS A FORCE:
Faith is a power force. It is a tangible force. It is a conductive force.

KENNETH COPELAND'S TEACHING OF (OCCULT) VISUALIZATION:
Words create pictures, and pictures in your mind create words. And then the words come back out your mouth... And when that spiritual force comes out it is going to give substance to the image that's on the inside of you. Aw, that's that visualization stuff! Aw, that's that New Age! No, New Age is trying to do this, and they'd get somewhat results out of it because this is spiritual law, brother!

KENNETH COPELAND'S DENIAL OF THE ETERNAL PRE-EXISTENCE OF JESUS:
1) Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God, until such time as the prophets of the Old Testament could positively confess Jesus into existence through their constant prophecies.

2) Jesus has a beginning and an end.

KENNETH COPELAND'S DESCRIPTION OF JESUS AS A "FAITH" PRODUCT OF GOD:
The faith it took to make fingers was loosed, the faith it took to make arms was loosed in the earth, and now God had a way to hover over a little woman by the name of Mary. And there was born of that virgin woman a product of God. Once again, something has happened from the insides of God.

Now, you see, God is injecting His Word into the earth to produce this Jesus - these faith-filled words that framed the image that's in Him. .. He can't just walk onto the earth and say, "Let it be!" because He doesn't have the right! He had to sneak it in here around the god of this world that was blocking every way that he possibly could.

God was making promises to Jesus, and Jesus wasn't even there. But, you see, God deals with things that are not yet as though they already were. That's the way He gets them to come to pass.


KENNETH COPELAND'S ASSERTION THAT GOD HAS NO RIGHT OF ACCESS TO THE EARTH:
God's on the outside looking in. He doesn't have any legal entree into the earth. The thing don't belong to Him. You see how sassy the Devil was in the presence of God in the book of Job? God said, "Where have you been?" Wasn't any of God's business. He didn't even have to answer if he didn't want to... God didn't argue with him a bit. You see, this is the position that God's been in... Might say, "Well, if God's running things He's doing a lousy job of it." He hadn't been running 'em, except when He's just got, you know, a little bit of a chance!

KENNETH COPELAND'S DENIAL OF THE SUFFICIENCY OF CALVARY:
When Jesus cried, "It is finished!" He was not speaking of the plan of redemption. There were still three days and nights to go through before He went to the throne... Jesus' death on the cross was only the beginning of the complete work of redemption.

KENNETH COPELAND'S BELITTLING OF CALVARY:
Now it wasn't the physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin... Anybody could do that.

KENNETH COPELAND'S ASSERTION THAT IT WAS NOT JESUS ALONE WHO COULD HAVE ATONED FOR SIN:
Any O.T. prophet could have atoned for our sins, if they knew what Jesus knew.  

KENNETH COPELAND'S WEAK JESUS:
We are the body of His Word. We are carriers of faith. Without us, people die and go to Hell. Without us being strong, Jesus is not strong.

KENNETH COPELAND'S DENIAL THAT JESUS IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD:
Jesus is no longer the only begotten Son of God. 

KENNETH COPELAND'S CONTRADICTION OF HEBREWS 13:8:
Jesus has not remained the same, He has changed.

KENNETH COPELAND ON JESUS' RIGHTEOUSNESS:
Jesus had to give up His righteousness.

KENNETH COPELAND ON JESUS BECOMING SATANIC:
Jesus took on the nature of Satan when He was on the cross.

KENNETH COPELAND'S PRONOUNCEMENT THAT IT WAS SATAN WHO HAD THE VICTORY AT CALVARY:
Satan conquered Jesus on the Cross and took His spirit to the dark regions of Hell.

KENNETH COPELAND'S TEACHING ON JESUS IN HELL:
Jesus was dragged down into the bowels of Hell, where He was beaten and bruised by Satan and his demons until Jesus could finally fight His way out of Hell three days later.

KENNETH COPELAND'S "BORN AGAIN" JESUS:
1) Jesus was reborn in the pits of Hell.

2) Jesus was born again - the firstborn from the dead the Word calls Him - and He whipped the Devil in his own backyard.

KENNETH COPELAND'S DECLARATION THAT JESUS NEVER CLAIMED TO BE GOD:
They crucified me for claiming I was God. I didn't claim that I was God. I just claimed that I walked with Him and that He was in me. Hallelujah! That's what you're doing!

KENNETH COPELAND'S CLAIM THAT HEAVEN IS A PLANET:
1) You don't think earth was first, do you? Huh? Well, you don't think that God made man in His image, and then made earth in some other image? ... This is all a copy. It's a copy of home. It's a copy of the Mother Planet. Where God lives. He made a little one just like His and put us on it.

2) Heaven has a north and a south and an east and a west. Consequently it must be a planet.

KENNETH COPELAND'S MAJORING ON MATERIALISM:
1) Prosperity is a major requirement in the establishment of God's will.

2) God's will for His people today is abundance.

3) God... needs you rich.

4) Clearly, our prosperity is important to God. It's so central to His will that He included it in the price Jesus paid for our redemption. So it doesn't matter whether or not we think we need it. What matters is that God needs it!

KENNETH COPELAND'S FALSE PROPHECY RE ISLAM:
And we're going to see the move of God like we've never seen it before... Because, you mark my word, 1995 is the beginning of the "Beyond what we are able to ask or think." 1995 is that beginning. It has come. There are many Muslims that while they are trying to worship what they think is God, Jesus is going to appear right in the middle of it. And under the influence of the power of the Holy Ghost, Islam will fall. Islam will become nothing. (Published 25/12/94).

KENNETH COPELAND'S ECUMENICAL ACCORD WITH THE POPE:
Thank you, sir. We do bless you. We receive your blessing. It's very, very important to us, and we bless you with all of our hearts, we bless you with all of our souls, we bless you with all of our might, and we thank you, sir. We thank God for you. And so all of us declare together, "Be blessed!" Once again, altogether, "Be blessed!" Amen.

KENNETH COPELAND'S DENUNCIATION OF GOD AS A FAILURE:
I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is... The biggest in all the Bible is God!
He lost His top-ranking, most anointed angel, the first man He ever created, the first woman He ever created, the whole earth and all the fullness therein, a third of the angels at least! That's a big loss, man! I mean, you figure it all, that's a lot of real estate, brother, gone down the drain. Now the reason you don't think of God as a failure is He never said He's a failure. And you're not a failure till you say you're one!

6 comments:

Steve said...

Reading Mr. Copeland's comments, it is hard to believe any born-again, Spirit-filled believer could fall for such outrageous tripe! It is abundantly clear that discernment (and biblical knowledge) is almost non-existant in the so-called church today. Copeland, Warren, Hybels, Bell, etc, etc - the list of false teachers is almost endless. Trying to appeal to those deceived by these wolves-in-sheep's-clothing is as difficult as trying to get a Jehovah's Witness to see the error of their cult's teaching. They will not talk to me; they see me as a 'hater' (which could not be further from the truth). If only believers read and studied the Word! (Hosea 4:6)

Treena Gisborn said...

How right you are Steve. God bless x

colin said...

We must not trust ANY man (including Billy Graham and Alphas Nicky Gumbel) that would cosy up to the pope as Copeland and company so eagerly do. Their words utterly belie their position as ministers of Christ's gospel; to be taken in by THIS crowd you would surely think to be impossible? But, this is how far we have fallen? To speak, or think lightly of the Reformation is a very GREAT sin.
Nevertheless, there may be earnest enquirers who will happen upon these pages.
May God use such to open their eyes to the truth.
God bless.

Treena Gisborn said...

As always wise words. Thank you Colin. God bless x

Anonymous said...

Copeland says God is a failure? How can a 'Christian' say such a thing?
JT.

Treena Gisborn said...

I really don't know anonymous. I can't bear to even look at the man, he just oozes evil in my opinion! God bless.