SAM ADAMS INDEPENDENCE BAPTIST CHURCH: MISREPRESENTATION OF THE PRE-WRATH RAPTURE

If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame. (Proverbs 18:13).

"The pre-trib and the pre-wrath positions are preposterous." Sam Adams - Pre-Wrath (& Pre-Trib) Rapture Doctrine Shattered: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b5sBaqAQ1A
http://www.independencebaptist.com/post-trib-rapture.html

I am extremely unhappy that Sam Adams has made some very irresponsible statements about the pre-wrath rapture view. Not only has he condemned the pre-wrath position as "preposterous", he goes even further, and states that the pre-wrath position is actually worse than pre-trib! Nothing could be further from the truth!  Unlike pre-wrath, the pre-trib view undermines the gospel and gives believers the false hope of escaping the great tribulation. (Ephesians 6:12). By making such a reckless statement, Adams completely fails to take into account the dire consequences of the pre-trib deception which facilitates the potential for many believers to fall away. (Matthew 24:10). Although pre-trib has been debunked repeatedly, inexplicably, many Christians are still caught up in that deception. On the other hand, far from being a "compromise doctrine", the pre-wrath position effectively passes the scriptural test of authenticity. (1 John 4:1). Since Adams has issued an open invitation for anyone to correct him, my analysis follows:

Adams first objection is that both the pre-wrath and the pre-trib rapture necessitate two separate returns of the Lord. This is to limit the Parousia, the term applied to the Second Coming of Christ, to the events initiated in Revelation 19. However, it appears that the Parousia refers to a period of time preceding Revelation 19. For instance, the harpazō (catching away/rapture) is not the earthly event described in Revelation 19, and yet the apostle Paul describes it as the Lord's Parousia. (1 Thessalonians 4:15).

Alan Kurschner makes a very interesting point:

"The presupposition is that the depiction of the battle of Armageddon in Revelation 19 with Christ appearing in the sky with his heavenly armies indicates the beginning of his parousia (incidentally, this is a presupposition held by pretribulationism, as well). Yet, many posttribs recognize this causes a discrepancy because the book of Revelation shows the day of the Lord’s wrath unfolding before the battle of Armageddon during the trumpet and bowl judgments. In other words, how can the parousia begin at the battle of Armageddon but at the same time affirm that his judgment does not begin before his parousia? They also recognize the discrepancy of affirming that God’s people have been resurrected between the sixth and the seventh seal in Revelation 7 and, at the same time, claiming that the resurrection occurs in association with the battle of Armageddon in Revelation 19 that they say initiates the parousia. How then do they attempt to reconcile these problems?" {1}

How exactly does Adams explain Jesus' return with his resurrected saints. He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. (Revelation 19:13-14). ..fine linen, bright and pure.. fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints. (Revelation 19:7-8).

Adams claims that the reference to the "first resurrection" in Revelation 20:4-6 proves that the first resurrection occurs after Armageddon. However, in technical terms, the wording and tenses of the verbs in the Greek suggests that the first resurrection was already past, and that John was seeing the saints already ruling on thrones after having been raised.{2} The verb for "lived" (Revelation 20:4) is in the aorist tense, which refers to the whole action of being brought from death to life, not necessarily as occurring at that time.

Adams: "As is shown below, all scriptures dealing with the timing of the rapture show it to occur after the great tribulation, in particular Matt. 24:29-31, Romans 8:18-23, 1 Cor. 15:51-52, 2 Thes. 2:1-8 and Rev. 20:4-5." When exactly does "the great tribulation" come to an end?

Adams: "(1) ..the (pre-wrath) position wrongly holds that time of great tribulation that Christ spoke of (Mt. 24:21) does not include the outpouring of God's wrath, but is merely a time of persecution of Christians, and (2) the position still requires two 'comings' or returns of Christ, one before God's wrath is outpoured and another afterward, which is impossible."

Adams objection that the tribulation includes God's wrath is completely unscriptural and very misleading. I have written elsewhere that wrath (orge) and tribulation (thlipsis) are distinct terms in the scriptures and should not be confused. Indeed thlipsis i.e. affliction/distress, will come upon unbelievers after the tribulation, but the root cause of their distress will be the wrath of God, whereas the great tribulation referred to in Matthew 24:21 is obviously the persecution of believers by the Antichrist. The scriptures teach that the persecution against believers comes to an end before the wrath of God is poured out, and precedes the signs in the sun moon and stars. The scriptures are clear: Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. (Matthew 24:29). Matthew 24 describes the precise events described in Revelation 6 preceding "the great day of their wrath", when the sixth seal is opened:

When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood, and the stars of the sky fell to the earth as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale. The sky vanished like a scroll that is being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. Then the kings of the earth and the great ones and the generals and the rich and the powerful, and everyone, slave and free, hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains, calling to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb, for the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?” (Revelation 6 6:12-17).

AFTER THIS.. the 144,000 of Israel are sealed (Revelation 7:1-8); AFTER THIS.. the great multitude coming out of the great tribulation are in heaven. (Revelation 7:9-17). These events are followed by the 7th seal and the seven trumpet judgements and the three woes. The denial of a chronological order of events regarding the seven seals, trumpets and bowls is to reject the plain teaching of the scriptures. Where there is a numbered sequence, we must acknowledge that events will occur in the order stated. The seals, trumpets and bowls cannot be rearranged to occur out of order to suit our own presuppositions: Now I watched when the Lamb opened one of the seven seals.(Revelation 6:1) We have repeated statements separating the seals: When he opened the second seal... the third seal... the fourth seal etc. (Revelation 6:3,5,7,9,12). There is a also a progression of different events. Similarly the trumpets also indicate chronology. (Revelation 8:7,8,10,12).. following which: the blasts of the other trumpets that the three angels are about to blow! (Revelation 8:13). The first woe has passed; behold, two woes are still to come.. Then (καί) the sixth angel blew his trumpet . (Revelation 9:12,13). Then (καί) the seventh angel blew his trumpet.. (Revelation 11:15). Need I go on? I am not sure if Adams is KJV only, in which case καί may be translated differently.{3} Nevertheless in other respects, the King James Version also indicates chronology.

Adams: "Believers will be resurrected at the same time as creation is restored. This cannot precede God's wrath being poured out on the planet. The parable of the wheat and tares indicates that the wicked are taken first."

I have never heard the argument that the resurrection of the saints and the redemption of creation will occur at exactly the same time. Adams refers to Romans 8:19-23, and in particular: For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. (Romans 8:19). Doesn't this verse suggest that the sons of God are revealed prior to the emancipation of creation? The events are analogous, but nothing in this passage indicates that the two events will occur simultaneously. Randy Alcorn: "As the creation fell on our coat-tails it will rise on our coat-tails." {4}

According to Adams, the parable of the wheat and the tares (weeds) proves that the tares are burned before the wheat is gathered:

“Gather the weeds first and bind them in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my barn.” (Matthew 13:30).

The tares are gathered and put into bundles first, which implies that they are to be burned after the wheat harvest. The sequence indicates that the wheat, not the tares take precedence.

Later Jesus clarifies the parable to his disciples:

The harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are angels. Just as the weeds are gathered and burned with fire, so will it be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear. (Matthew 13:39-43).

The phrase.. "Then righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their father", does not indicate the time when believers will receive their resurrected bodies, it indicates the end result of the preceding events i.e. the resurrected saints will then be at liberty to shine like the sun, after the wicked are burned. (cf. Daniel 12:3). Adams makes the common mistake of overthinking Jesus' parables, with the result that he engages in too much speculative scrutiny.

Jesus Himself contradicts the error that the wicked will be taken first: Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.. (Matthew 24:30-31). ..Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left. Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left. (Matthew 24:40-41). Matthew 24:30-44 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16-5:5 refer to exactly the same events.

Adams assertion that pre-wrath is a new position is also erroneous. The term "pre-wrath rapture" is relatively new, and yet as well as being affirmed in the scriptures, it is also attested to in the Didache chapter 16.{5} The modern pre-wrath view was pioneered by Robert Van Kampen and later promoted by Marv Rosenthall. It is presently being defended, amongst others, by Alan Kurschner of Eschatos Ministries.{6} A comprehensive pre-wrath rapture defence by Paul Dorgan can be found on YouTube.{7} 

The Pre-Trib Hijack Of Earlier Writers:

John Gill (1748)

Gill is often cited as a pre-trib proponent. However, no time scale indicates that he was pre-trib.

"..here Christ will stop and will be visible to all, and as easily discerned by all, good and bad, as the body of the sun at noon-day; as yet He will not descend on earth, because it is not fit to receive Him; but when that and its works are burnt up, and it is purged and purified by fire, and become a new earth, He'll descend upon it, and dwell with his saints in it: and this suggests another reason why He'll stay in the air, and His saints shall meet Him there, and whom He'll take up with Him into the third heaven, till the general conflagration and burning of the world is over, and to preserve them from it.." {8} 

Morgan Edwards (1742-1744)

Morgan Edwards is also often quoted as a pre-trib proponent. However the pre-trib camp believe that the rapture will occur prior to their version of the tribulation, which they define incorrectly as a seven year period. In contrast, Morgan Edwards approximate estimate for the rapture was three and a half years before the millennium. This places him in a "mid trib" position, and not pre-trib as the pre-trib camp wrongly define the entire 70th week of Daniel. Thomas Ice's failure to mention Morgan Edwards' complex historicist view of eschatology is also very telling. Morgan Edwards believed that the tribulation had already been going on for hundreds of years, which invalidates any comparison with a pre-trib "seven year tribulation". The pre-tribbers have deceptively hijacked Morgan Edwards to fit in with their own deeply flawed position. In my view, we cannot say precisely when the rapture will occur, apart from the scriptural evidence that it becomes imminent following the sixth seal. No one knows the day or the hour.. (Matthew 24:36).

"The distance between the first and second resurrection will be somewhat more than a thousand years. I say, somewhat more--, because the dead saints will be raised, and the living changed at Christ's 'appearing in the air' (1 Thess. 4:17); and this will be about three years and a half before the millennium, as we shall see hereafter: but will he and they abide in the air all that time? No: they will ascend to paradise, or to some one of those many 'mansions in the Father's house' (John 14:2)." {9} 

Pseudo Ephraem is yet another example of pre-trib rapture dishonesty. Pseudo-Ephraem teaches that Christians escape tribulation by death, not by rapture! "Then the Evil One will become enraged With the saints at that time; He will draw his terrible sword And sever the necks of the righteous ones." {10} 

As Dave MacPherson points out: "Not only have these (pre-trib) promoters covered up and twisted what McKibbens/Smith and Alexander have written, but they've also concealed and perverted Morgan Edwards' and Pseudo-Ephraem's own words!" {11} 

In contrast to the PTRC and the Thomas Ice's of this world, the pre-wrath camp do not need to resort to dishonest tactics and scripture twisting.

Intra-Seal is a further rapture theory that has muddied the waters in recent times. (Ezekiel 34:18). The Intra-Seal rapture theory, devised by Jacob Prasch of Moriel Ministries, is a perversion of the pre-wrath position. Prasch has mixed elements of pre-trib and pre-wrath in a clumsy attempt to jump onto the rapture bandwagon! Intra-Seal should be dismissed as the fraud that it is.{12}

Adams main problem, apart from his presuppositions, is chronology, which sad to say, is all over the place. Adams teaching is perhaps in part a rebuttal of Steven Anderson (Faithful Word Baptist Church), with whom he has some issues. I am no fan of Steven Anderson for a number of reasons, but in this particular instance his pre-wrath rapture teaching is reliable. {13} It is a pity that Adams cannot put his time to better use instead of refuting those who have put much superior scholarship into understanding the scriptural timing of the rapture! Adam's eisegeses add nothing positive to the debate concerning the timing of the rapture.. in fact, his misrepresentations, are, in my view, obtuse and a hindrance to a true understanding of the scriptures.

{1} http://www.alankurschner.com/2014/02/22/seals-trumpets-bowls-at-the-same-time-or-one-after-the-other-i-e-concurrent-recapitulation-or-consecutive-progressive/
{2} http://www.answersinrevelation.org/014.pdf
{3} http://biblehub.com/greek/2532.htm
{4} https://www.epm.org/resources/2010/Mar/22/how-will-earth-be-redeemed/
{5} http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0714.htm
{6} http://www.alankurschner.com/
{7} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiKBysLf6MQ&index=3&list=PLDS6L4dOrrh2b31rfWbTduK8Dv7LlQNlk
{8} https://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/1-thessalonians-4-15.html
{9} http://www.pre-trib.org/articles/view/morgan-edwards-another-pre-darby-rapturist
{10} https://www.liquisearch.com/apocalypse_of_pseudo-ephraem/translation_of_pseudo-ephraem
{11} http://www.brotherpete.com/index.php?topic=3528.0
{12} https://www.amazon.co.uk/INTRA-SEAL-RAPTURE-DECEPTION-EXPOSED-devised-ebook/dp/B06X6N2JJT
{13} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA66405B4wU

THE ISAAC NETWORK: AN INTERNATIONAL CULT

RHYS HAGAN'S TESTIMONY 

I’m sure I’m not the only one who sees a true crime story that’s so bizarre that it’s impossible to image it happening to you. So, when I tell you about my experience in a Christian cult, most would probably think it’s a bit far-fetched. But what if I told you the church I was a part of was one of hundreds who belong to the I.S.A.A.C. Network—a radical Christian group whose leader, Dr. Jonathan David, is based in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia?

They call him "Papa" and his wife "Mama", their "national strategy" for the countries which they’re based in is, as their website says, "..to divide those nations into regions to effectively penetrate and 'conquer' them."

The I.S.A.A.C. Network is small in terms of International churches. Still, they have at least five congregations within a two-hour drive from my home town in regional Victoria, Australia. I have personally heard multiple counts of physical and sexual abuse coming from just those churches. And, on each count, the justification for such abuse is a high standard of apostolic piety.

Accounts of abuse include: a female pastor massaging male members of her congregation, members being throttled in front of the congregation by the pastor, and a child wearing a t-shirt with a skull on it being picked up by his feet and dropped on his head then having his shirt removed and ripped by the pastor, plus other accounts of physical and sexual abuse which the victims requested not be mentioned.

It could be said that these actions were the result of the individuals, and had no bearing over the I.S.A.A.C. Network. But as a former member of the Network, I would rebut with a statement from the institution’s website:

"We will use churches with an apostolic mentality to co-ordinate the region for a divine attack on the nation. We are currently building apostolic bases in many nations for an end-time launching into the harvest."

Statements like this could be seen as a metaphor in the same vein as a performer would ‘knock ‘em dead’, but after considering just a few of the testimonies of those involved, trying to justify such actions begins to feel like a cover up. And make no mistake—isolation and secrecy were staples of the Network. "Outsiders wouldn’t understand what goes on within", they would say, "Having friends outside the church means you have people in your life who can corrupt you." 

What’s more is, according to a twelve-point checklist on the ESAMA (Edmonton Society Against Mind Abuse) website, the Network and the churches within it check all twelve boxes.

Having interacted with leaders within the  I.S.A.A.C. Network for years, and having been a member of the churches who once desired to be such a leader, I know the god-like reverence these members have for "Papa". They simply describe their prostration as honour, believing they must follow "God’s anointed and elect" without hesitation. And, of course, it would be rebellious to question whether these practices are unhealthy. Extreme action and radical belief are the only ways to coordinate the "divine attack on the nation".

I firmly believe each person has a right to believe what they want. I would even say that each person believes things that aren’t true—we all have our deceptions. The contradiction comes from when one person’s beliefs interfere, or hope to control another’s. Even more disturbing is when that control means the leaders justify abuse within their respective groups. That’s why I feel it’s necessary to name such places—to serve as a warning to anyone who encounters them.
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Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. (Ephesians 5:11).

An exposé of the  I.S.A.A.C. Network is long overdue! Further background information on the false prophet and cult leader Jonathan David can be found on a previous post of mine written in 2015:

https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/revelation-tv-howard-conders-delusional.html

Rhys is heading the campaign to expose the I.S.A.A.C. Network. Carrie, Rhys's sister is also a survivor of the Network. She has been seeking justice for herself and other former members for five years. A major Australian newspaper has now expressed an interest in doing an exposé of this abusive cult and Carrie and her brother are seeking further sources. If you are willing to corroborate the above testimony and to play a part in exposing the I.S.A.A.C. Network, (both on the record or anonymously) please email Carrie at: takedownisaac@gmail.com

For those who would like support, Carrie runs a Facebook group for survivors of religious abuse called Existential Medicine. (https://www.facebook.com/groups/473298999682389/)

BETHEL REDDING AGAIN: CHRISTALIGNMENT DESTINY READING CARDS!

Not satisfied with gravesucking and other abominations, Bethel Church Redding CA detestable practices have gone into overdrive as they are now endorsing Christalignment Destiny Reading Cards aka "Christian Tarot Cards".

Bethel's website praises the "ministry" of Christalignment leaders Ken and Jenny Hodge, stating: "..we have a value  for what they are seeking to accomplish..

..The Hodges are attempting to contextualize the Gospel and bring people to the realization that God is looking for them and loves them no matter where they are – just like the apostle Paul often did. In Acts 17:22-34, Paul spoke to a group of religious people who didn’t yet know God and lived in a city full of altars, idols, and various religions. In that moment, Paul referred to a single altar in their city that had an inscription to the “unknown god,” and he used this familiar object (something they understood and valued) as a starting point to connect them with the God of all creation. He wasn’t worried that they would get a wrong idea (like that God is merely one of many gods or that idols are appropriate) because he would soon be introducing them to the true God." {1}

When Paul referred to the alter with the inscription "To the unknown God", he immediately made known the gospel of Jesus Christ. He didn't undertake any occult practices or "readings", he simply preached the gospel, something that Bethel and their associates seem incapable of doing.

So Paul, standing in the midst of the Areopagus, said: “Men of Athens, I perceive that in every way you are very religious. For as I passed along and observed the objects of your worship, I found also an altar with this inscription: ‘To the unknown god.’ What therefore you worship as unknown, this I proclaim to you. The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in temples made by man, nor is he served by human hands, as though he needed anything, since he himself gives to all mankind life and breath and everything. And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place, that they should seek God, and perhaps feel their way toward him and find him. Yet he is actually not far from each one of us, for

“‘In him we live and move and have our being’;

as even some of your own poets have said,

“‘For we are indeed his offspring.’

Being then God’s offspring, we ought not to think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of man. The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent, because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.” (Acts 17:22-31).

From the Christalignment Website:

"Team members can be booked individually for deep consultations, healing, spiritual readings, & spirit cleansing.

We draw from the same divine energy of the Christ spirit , as ancient followers did and operate only out of the third heaven realm to gain insight and revelation.

Christalignment teams are trained in destiny reading, Presence therapy, trauma recovery, entity cleansing, relationship alignment and physical healing using divine energy. Dream interpretation is done using the Hebraic method which can facilitate deep spiritual alignment.

Christalignment encounters coming from the third heaven realm bring lasting life transformation and guidance.

The team are trained as intuitive readers .." {2}

Those churches that persist in continuing a relationship with the New Apostolic Reformation and Bill Johnson/Bethel will reap terrible consequences. (2 Peter 2:17).

ABOMINABLE PRACTICES:

“When you come into the land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you. You shall be blameless before the Lord your God, for these nations, which you are about to dispossess, listen to fortune-tellers and to diviners. But as for you, the Lord your God has not allowed you to do this. (Deuteronomy 18:9-13).

{1} http://www.bethel.com/about/christalignment/
{2} http://www.christalignment.org/

CHARLATAN DEREK PRINCE: DEMONS AND CURSES!

Pentecostal minister Derek Prince operated in the pseudo ministry of deliverance and demonology during the late 1900's. In his vanity, Prince rejected the use of the term "demon possessed", falsely claiming that it was a mistranslation due to its implication of "ownership". He then proceeded to redefine and water-down "demoniac" to "demonize", a word that is unknown in the scriptures. Demonize comes from Medieval Latin: to be subject to the influence of demons.. from Medieval Latin daemonizāre, equivalent to Late Latin daemon demon + -izāre -ize {1} Having borrowed the spurious general category "demonize" from Medieval Latin, Prince taught that non-Christians, and also the majority of Christians are demonized.

Lie No 1: A demon cannot "possess” a non-Christian.

Lie No 2: The majority of committed Christians are "demonized" i.e. they can be indwelt by demons.

Lie No 3: Many Christians come under ancestral curses, going back hundreds or even thousands of years.

Derek Prince: "Three different Greek expressions normally used to describe the influence of demons:
1. To have an unclean/evil spirit. See Matt. 11:18; Mark 7:25; 9:17; Luke 4:33; 8:27; 13:11; John 7:20; 8:48–49, 52; 10:20–21.
2. To be in an unclean/evil spirit (Modern English—to be under the influence of) See Mark 1:23; 5:2. 3. To be demonized. KJV incorrectly translates to be “possessed with devils.” There is nothing in the Greek to support the word “possessed,” which is completely misleading. See Matt. 4:24; 8:16, 28, 33; 9:32; 12:22; 15:22; Mark 1:32; 5:15, 16, 18; Luke 8:36." {2}

Prince's three classifications above are completely bogus. In particular, the Greek verb δαιμονίζομαι, English demoniac, translates: I am demon-possessed. Definition: I am possessed, am under the power of an evil-spirit or demon.{3} Prince's statement that the Greek does not support "possessed" is completely false. Not only Strong's Greek 1139, but ALL the accepted Greek dictionaries and lexicons define δαιμονίζομαι in exactly the same way:

BAGD “be possessed by a demon”
EDNT, ed. Balz & Schneider, 1:274 “be possessed by a demon”
LSJ “to be possessed by a demon”
Louw-Nida, 1:147 (§12.41) “to be possessed by a demon”
NIDNTT, ed. Brown, 1:453 “be possessed by a demon”
TDNT, ed. Kittel, 2:19 “To be possessed by a demon”
UBS Greek Dictionary “to be demon possessed” {4} 

1. To have (ἔχω) a demon as in Matthew 11:18; Mark 7:25; 9:17; Luke 4:33; 8:27; 13:11; John 7:20; 8:48–49, 52; 10:20–21.

The Greek verb in question is ἔχω = I have, hold, possess {5} 

The Jews said to him, “Now we know that you have (ἔχεις) a demon! (John 8:52).

Other examples:

And the same John had (εἶχεν) his raiment of camel's hair.. (Matthew 3:4).

We have (ἔχομεν) Abraham as our father.. (Matthew 3:9).

I have (ἔχω) the keys of Death and Hades. (Revelation 1:18).

ἐκβάλλω = to expel, to drive, cast or send out. {6} 

ἐξέρχομαι: to go or come out of . {7} 

And someone from the crowd answered him, “Teacher, I brought my son to you, for he has (ἔχοντα) a spirit that makes him mute. And whenever it seizes him, it throws him down, and he foams and grinds his teeth and becomes rigid. So I asked your disciples to cast it out (ἐκβάλωσιν), and they were not able.” And he answered them, “O faithless generation, how long am I to be with you? How long am I to bear with you? Bring him to me.” And they brought the boy to him. And when the spirit saw him, immediately it convulsed the boy, and he fell on the ground and rolled about, foaming at the mouth. And Jesus asked his father, “How long has this been happening to him?” And he said, “From childhood. And it has often cast him into fire and into water, to destroy him. But if you can do anything, have compassion on us and help us.” And Jesus said to him, “‘If you can’! All things are possible for one who believes.” Immediately the father of the child cried out and said, “I believe; help my unbelief!” And when Jesus saw that a crowd came running together, he rebuked the unclean spirit, saying to it, “You mute and deaf spirit, I command you, come out (ἔξελθε) of him and never enter him again.” And after crying out and convulsing him terribly, it came out, and the boy was like a corpse, so that most of them said, “He is dead.” But Jesus took him by the hand and lifted him up, and he arose. And when he had entered the house, his disciples asked him privately, “Why could we not cast it out?” And he said to them, “This kind cannot be driven out by anything but prayer.” Mark 9:17-29). 

2. Mark 1:23; 5:2. "..a man with an unclean spirit."

And immediately there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit. And he cried out, “What have you to do with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are—the Holy One of God.” But Jesus rebuked him, saying, “Be silent, and come out of him (ἔξελθε)!” And the unclean spirit, convulsing him and crying out with a loud voice, came out of him (ἐξῆλθεν). (Mark 1:23-26). ..And no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain, for he had often been bound with shackles and chains, but he wrenched the chains apart, and he broke the shackles in pieces. No one had the strength to subdue him. Night and day among the tombs and on the mountains he was always crying out and cutting himself with stones. (Mark 5:3-5).

Notably, the demons, not the man responded to Jesus in both cases:

“What do You want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have You come to destroy us?( Mark 1:24)
“My name is Legion, for we are many.” (Mark 5:9).

3. ..they brought him all the sick, those afflicted with various diseases and pains, those oppressed by demons (demoniacs), those having seizures, and paralytics, and he healed them. (Matthew 4:24). Other translations have "demon possessed".

We are not given specific details in every instance, but the context in all the examples that Prince gives is that of control/possession as in δαιμονίζομαι, demoniac.

Further weight is added to the argument against Prince's eisegesis, in that the New Testament gives no example of a Christian having been inhabited by a demon, or having a demon "cast out”. In fact such a thing is an impossibility since Christ has delivered genuine converts to Christianity from the domain of darkness and transferred them to the kingdom of his beloved Son. (Colossians 1:13). Furthermore, true believers are indwelt by the Holy Spirit. (1 John 4:4). A Christian may be tempted, deceived and harassed by a demon/demons from without, but he/she does not need to be “delivered” by some strange occult formula based on spurious translations from the Greek invented by Derek Prince!

Further Evidence:

DEMONIAC as in Matthew 4:24, 8:16, 28, 33; 9:32, 12:22; 15:22; Mark 1:32, 5:15-16, 18; Luke 8:36; John 10:21.

δαιμονίζομαι; 1 aorist passive participle δαιμονισθείς; (δαίμων); to be under the power of a demon: ἄλλος κατ' ἄλλην δαιμονίζεται τυχην, Philemon 1 in Stobaeus, ecl. phys. 1, p. 196; of the insane, Plutarch, symp. 7, 5, 4, and in other later authors. In the N. T. δαιμονιζόμενοι are persons afflicted with especially severe diseases, either bodily or mental (such as paralysis, blindness, deafness, loss of speech, epilepsy, melancholy, insanity, etc.), whose bodies in the opinion of the Jews demons (see δαιμόνιον) had entered, and so held possession of them as not only to afflict them with ills, but also to dethrone the reason and take its place themselves; accordingly, the possessed were accustomed to express the mind and consciousness of the demons dwelling in them; and their cure was thought to require the expulsion of the demon — (but on this subject see B. D. American edition under the word Demoniacs and references there; Weiss, Leben Jesu, book iii., chapter 6): Matthew 4:24; Matthew 8:16, 28, 33; Matthew 9:32; Matthew 12:22; Matthew 15:22; Mark 1:32; Mark 5:15; John 10:21; δαιμονισθείς, that had been possessed by a demon (demons), Mark 5:18; Luke 8:36. They are said also to be ὀχλούμενοι ὑπό or ἀπό πνευμάτων ἀκαθάρτων, Luke 6:18 (T Tr WH ἐνοχλούμενοι); Acts 5:16; καταδυναστευόμενοι ὑπό τοῦ διαβόλου, i. e. by his ministers, the demons, Acts 10:38. {3}

Ancestral Curses?

Prince claimed that many Christians come under generational curses, "going back hundreds or even thousands of years". {8} This outrageous claim is completely demolished by the scriptures:

Know therefore that the LORD your God is God, the faithful God who keeps covenant and steadfast love with those who love him and keep his commandments, to a thousand generations.. (Deuteronomy 7:9 cf. Deuteronomy 5:9-10).

Those who have not accepted Jesus Christ may very well be under an ancestral curse/curses, but even if this is the case, God's mercy is such that retrospective curses are not effective for more than three or four generations, much less thousands of years! A generation in human terms typically ranges from 22 to 32 years.{9} An ancestral curse is therefore not effectual for longer than 128 years at the most (Numbers 14:18).

..for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me.. (Deuteronomy 5:9 cf. Exodus 34:7).

Curses apply to those that hate God, not to Christians! Prince argued not from the scriptures, which are silent on the matter, rather he brought examples from his own subjective experience and various "words from the Lord", in order to attach believers to the various Old Testament curses laid out in Deuteronomy. The Deuteronomy curses were pronounced by the Levitical priests and were to be set up on Mount Ebal after the Israelites had entered the promised land. The future curses pronounced were the inevitable result turning away from God and breaking the law of Moses.  Moses made no reference either to residual curses left from the time the Israelites spent in slavery in Egypt, or the generation that sinned and died in the wilderness. (Numbers 32:13; Hebrews 3:17). I am referring to types and shadows in the OT (I Corinthians 10:11), i.e. Egypt is a type of sin; Pharaoh is a type of Satan. Deliverance from Egypt was complete once Israel came through the Red Sea: For the Egyptians whom you see today, you shall never see again. (Exodus 14:13).

As already stated, Prince goes back thousands of years, not three or four generations. Secondly, we are speaking specifically about curses upon the Israelites, not NT believers. Thirdly, all who rely on works of the law are under a curse - this obviously excludes NT believers. (Galatians 3:10). At Sinai, Moses sprinkled the blood of animals on the altar and upon the people who entered into covenant with God. (Exodus 24: 3-8). Once the Israelites entered into the covenant at Sinai, what God required was obedience. Since we are to make parallels with the Israelites as believers, then we must concede that once the Israelites came out of Egypt, ancestral curses were non existent. The New Testament identifies the problem: their hearts turned back to Egypt (Acts 7:9; cf. Deuteronomy 30:17). Similarly if we disobey the Law of Christ i.e. the New Testament commandments (John 13:34), then inevitably, there will be consequences (1 Corinthians 10:11). Notice that the key is obedience, forgetting those things that lie behind and straining forward to what lies ahead.(Philippians 3:13). When we do fail for any reason, then we need to repent. The unbiblical machinations of Derek Prince threaten to undermine faith and destroy our peace in Christ and cause us go backwards into bondage, curses, death and darkness!

Satan is in the business of sowing doubt and unbelief! God has not placed heavy burdens upon believers concerning the effect of sins committed in past generations! On the contrary! 
THE TRUTH: Anyone who has genuine faith in Jesus Christ is transformed into a new creation upon conversion: Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come (2 Corinthians 5:17; Romans 6:4 cf. Isaiah 43:18; Ezekiel 36:26). If any ancestral curses did exist before we were converted, the moment we were born again they were obliterated.. we passed from darkness to light, from the power of Satan to God (Acts 26:18). Believers have no remit to go digging around in the past looking for ancestral curses! Jesus Christ has blessed true believers with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places (Ephesians 1:3 cf. Philippians 3:13). Can a person be blessed and cursed at the same time? The flesh and the world also play their part when Christians experience problems, but ancestral curses are never given as a cause for difficulties in the New Testament. (Luke 4:18; John 8:32-36; Romans 8:2).

Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— (Galatians 3:13).

God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. (2 Corinthians 5:21)  Can those who have become righteous through Christ's obedience be under a curse?

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places.. (Ephesians 1:3). Can Christians be blessed and cursed at the same time?

For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.” But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith. (Galatians 3:10-14)

The question of ancestral curses is completely demolished when we realise that under the new covenant Christians follow Jesus Christ and that He superseded the Law. We should understand that God calls believers to faithfully follow His Word, and that there are consequences, even curses for apostasy and disobedience. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. (Galatians 1:8-9). Ironically, in preaching a gospel contrary to the scriptures, Prince himself would have been under a self inflicted curse.

Prince's false teachings are aimed at seriously undermining the faith of Christians. Just as those who infiltrated the church at Galatia, pseudo "deliverance ministries" come to spy out the freedom that we have in Christ Jesus, so that they might bring us into bondage.(Galatians 2:4).

Derek Prince was either a deceiver or he had no knowledge of the subject in which professed to be an "expert", as demonstrated by his inability to translate the Greek δαιμονίζομαι correctly, and his reversion to Old Testament curses which have no practical application to the new covenant. In addition, Prince's "heavy shepherding" fiasco really does highlight that he was operating in the flesh and not in the Spirit. This despicable false teacher caused devastating problems in the lives of many believers throughout his alleged "ministry". Tragically, Derek Prince Ministries continues to distribute his false teachings and trains missionaries, church leaders, and congregations through the outreaches of more than thirty DPM offices around the world. {10} Beware of these lethal false teachings. {11}

We can finally put to bed any idea that Derek Prince was a genuine bible teacher when we discover his early betrayal and his involvement with the Vatican:

Early Betrayal: In 1974 the founders of the Shepherding Movement aka the Fort Lauderdale Five (FL5) formed a secret council and an ecumenical alliance. In 1977 the FL5 secretly met Cardinal Suenens in Israel where they made a joint covert declaration to work together for the restoration of the unity of the Church. The council agreed to relate directly to Cardinal Suenens and to consult him before planning or implementing projects, evangelism, etc. In other words, the FL5 sold out and capitulated to Vatican control.

The General Council Minutes of The “Ft. Lauderdale” Elders makes very interesting reading! This document was obstructed and suppressed for a long time for obvious reasons: “The fuller picture is how these men wove themselves into a multi-apostasy which includes the RCC, the mother of whores.” {12}

The suggestion that ancestral curses have to be dealt with in an extrabiblical manner by some charismatic curse-buster or guru is to declare that the cross alone is deficient. 

This post was written to further enlarge upon the ongoing discussion in the comments of my original post: DEREK PRINCE FALSE TEACHER WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING!!!

https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/derek-prince-false-teacher-wolf-in.html#comments

See also: THE CURSE OF DEREK PRINCE FALSE TEACHER!!!
https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/the-curse-of-derek-prince.html 

{1}  http://www.dictionary.com/browse/demonize 
{2}  file:///C:/Users/Owner/AppData/Local/Packages/Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge_
8wekyb3d8bbwe/TempState/Downloads/Deliverance_&_Demonology_DD1ol%20(1).pdf
{3}   http://biblehub.com/greek/1139.htm
{4}   http://www.xtianity.com/tfc/daimonizomai.pdf
{5}   http://biblehub.com/greek/2192.htm
{6}   http://biblehub.com/greek/1544b.htm
{7}   http://biblehub.com/greek/1831.htm
{8}   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpuEn85G9mc
{9}   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_time
{10} https://www.derekprince.org/Articles/1000085373/DPM_USA/Archive_of_UK/Keys/
Blessings_and_Curses/Causes_of_Curses.aspx

{11} https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Prince#Demons_and_deliverance

{12} http://www.seekgod.ca/gc.htm 

LUCIFER THE ANOINTED CHERUB! SIMON BRAKER NAR FALSE PROPHET LEICESTER

The guru of Holy Trinity Church (CofE), and apparently also Trinity Life Church (AOG) (both in Leicester), has issued a further "vision". Braker is the founder of School of the Spirit in Leicester. He is also a senior leader of Holy Trinity Church and claims to operate in the office of a "Prophet", in tandem with "Apostle" John McGinley. What Braker has to say is deeply disturbing from a biblical perspective.

Jesus Christ The Door

Braker refers to "a giant door made up of many small doors". He goes on to denigrate those who say that there is only "one door", those who warn about false doctrines: "..they tried to stop people going through the other doors the Holy Spirit was directing them to.." On the contrary, Braker is operating through the spirit of error. (1 John 4:6). He is directing people away from the Holy Spirit to the false gods of ecumenism, a movement that stands in opposition to the true faith once for all delivered to the saints. (Jude 1:3). Let me make it quite clear, there is only ONE DOOR in the New Testament; that would be JESUS CHRIST (John 10:7-9), whose name is noticeably missing from Braker's vision, though indeed he does mention "THE CHRIST", which is ominous. Christ means "the anointed one" - and there are plenty of false New Age "christs" who own this title. (Matthew 24:24). Jesus Christ does not incorporate many doors. Indeed we must strive to enter through the (singular) narrow door. (Luke 13:24). The Holy Spirit will only lead us through one door:

So Jesus again said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. All who came before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture. (John 10:7-9).

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6).

Unsurprisingly the comments on 'Richard's Watch', demonstrate the fruit of Braker's vision - confusion and introspection:

• "What I find scary though is whether or not one can actually tell if one’s ignoring the Spirit on the one hand, or trying to get through the wrong door(s) on the other." 
• "I have the same confusion! The way I think about it at the moment – which may perhaps be cutting myself too much slack – is that this sort of worry can really only come from a genuine willingness to please God, which it requires some genuine humility to have. The time to really be worried is when you don’t care if you’re humble or not any more…" {1}

When people rely on mysticism and false unsubstantiated visions as against the Word of God, fear and confusion are inevitable. God is not the author of confusion. (1 Corinthians 14:33).

. ..for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control (sound mind). (2 Timothy 1:7).

His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us to his own glory and excellence.. (2 Peter 1:3).

Lucifer The Anointed Cherub!

Braker: "I could see the face of a man, the face of a lion, the face of a lamb, the face of an eagle, the face of a dove, and the face of a woman and the face of a small child all at the same time.. I understood this person was the Holy Spirit.."   

This sounds very familiar (with alterations)! (Proverbs 30:6).

And every one had four faces: the first face was the face of the cherub, and the second face was a human face, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle. (Ezekiel 10:14 cf. 10:20).

..the spirit of the living creatures was in them. The cherubim: And this was their appearance: they had a human likeness, but each had four faces, and each of them had four wings. (Ezekiel 1:5-6).

The key to Ezekiel's vision are the four living creatures in Revelation 4:6:

..and before the throne there was as it were a sea of glass, like crystal. And around the throne, on each side of the throne, are four living creatures, full of eyes in front and behind:

The living creatures of Revelation are instrumental in summoning the four horsemen (Revelation 6:1-8), and later they give the seven angels seven golden bowls full of the wrath of God. (Revelation 15:7).

The fact that these living beings are creatures i.e. created beings, defies the interpretation that they are the Holy Spirit. Ezekiel 10:20 confirms that they are cherubim i.e. part of the angelic hierarchy.

Particularly significant is that prior to his rebellion, Lucifer (Satan) is described as the anointed guardian cherub! Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; (Ezekiel 28:12-15 KJV). Followers of Simon Braker should be very careful that he is not leading them into the worship of angels, and in particular the worship of Satan himself who appears deceptively as an angel of light. (2 Corinthians 11:14).

Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God. (Colossians 2:18-19).

The Person of the Holy Spirit defies physical description since He is Spirit. When coupled with one of the names of God in the Old Testament, the Spirit of God is described in terms of ruach i.e. breath, wind, spirit, Greek-pneuma.

The only time anything like a physical description of the Holy Spirit is given in the scriptures is at Jesus' baptism:

..and the Holy Spirit descended on him (Jesus) in bodily form, like a dove; and a voice came from heaven, “You are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased.” (Luke 3:22 cf. Mark 1:10; Matthew 3:16).

Braker, or the entity working through Braker, picks up on the metaphor of a dove, but mixes it with Ezekiels vision of the creatures. This is blasphemous.

The primary vehicle for the Holy Spirit moving and speaking are the scriptures. It is possible to accept certain aspects of the scriptures without the Holy Spirit, but no one can possess the fullness of the Holy Spirit while practicing doctrines of demons and things contrary to the scriptures. (1 Timothy 4:1). Braker separates the Word of God from the Holy Spirit, whereas in reality they are inseparable!

All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

God has not "updated" or added to his Word as these false NAR ecumenical false teachers would have us believe:

The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand forever. (Isaiah 40:8).

"Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps my word, he will never see death.” (John 8:51).

..take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God, (Ephesians 6:17).

For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. (Hebrews 4:12).

So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, (John 8:31).

Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. (2 John 1:9).

To conclude: In essence Braker blasphemes and denies two Persons of the triune Godhead: Jesus Christ, whom he co-mingles with many doors (an allusion to ecumenism); and the Holy Spirit whom he co-mingles with Lucifer. It doesn't get much worse than this!

This post concerns those who have somehow become embroiled in the lethal spiritual deception that is increasing exponentially in these perilous times. (2 Timothy 3:1; 2 Thessalonians 2:11). There may be people on the periphery who have not been sucked into the delusion of the self appointed NAR false "apostles" and "prophets". I particularly warn these people to seek the Lord in prayer, and to search the scriptures, to see if these things are so. (Acts 17:11).

Braker's parting shot: "Let those who have an ear hear." He actually has the audacity to repeat Jesus' own words in the Book of Revelation. Jesus Christ stands at the door (singular) of the churches and knocks: Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me. (Revelation 3:20). Noticeably, Philadelphia, the faithful church, receives a commendation ..you have kept my word and have not denied my name. (Revelation 3:8).

Braker is one of the speakers at Prophetic Destiny Conference 2018 in Pasadena, CA, along with Ché Ahn, Kris Vallotton and other well known NAR false teachers.{2} Ché Ahn and Kris Vallotton are just two of the many "evangelical" reprobates who met the Pope in 2016 and sold out to Rome.{3}  Braker is clearly at the epicentre of the global apostasy taking place before our very eyes!  I have added some useful links about the Roman Catholic system at the end of this post.

Kris Vallotton at the Vatican in 2016!

He went on his way through towns and villages, teaching and journeying toward Jerusalem. And someone said to him, “Lord, will those who are saved be few?” And he said to them, “Strive to enter through the narrow door. For many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able. When once the master of the house has risen and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and to knock at the door, saying, ‘Lord, open to us,’ then he will answer you, ‘I do not know where you come from.’ Then you will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank in your presence, and you taught in our streets.’ But he will say, ‘I tell you, I do not know where you come from. Depart from me, all you workers of evil!’ In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God but you yourselves cast out. And people will come from east and west, and from north and south, and recline at table in the kingdom of God. And behold, some are last who will be first, and some are first who will be last.” (Luke 13:22-30).

Simon Braker 14th December 2017:

"The Lord took me into a vision/ dream

I was stood in front of a giant door, the door was so large that I could not see to the top of it, As I watched, I saw people walking up to this door and it was at this point that I saw this one door was actually made up of many small doors within the one big one,

As a person walked up and suddenly many of these small doors would open as they approached, as they did blinding light shone through the doors of many different colours.

I saw that as each person approached, they were greeted by a person the like I’ve never seen and it will be very hard to explain,

This person had no fixed shape like fire, wind or water, they also had no fixed colour as they shifted and changed constantly, as I looked, in the midst of this, I could see the face of a man, the face of a lion, the face of a lamb, the face of an eagle, the face of a dove, and the face of a woman and the face of a small child all at the same time.

Sometimes one face would become more clearer than the others, yet the other faces could still be seen in the midst of the wind the fire and the water,

I understood this person was the Holy Spirit, as each person came to the door he would greet them and invite them to enter into a new door,

I heard him say, the greatest doors are the ones you have to bow lowest to get through,

As one older man came forward many of the small doors opened all at the same time the light was both refreshing and blinding at the same time,

The man greeted the Holy Spirit and clearly they where close friends as they embraced one another like brothers, as they did the man was lost in the flames wind and water,
They spoke for a short time,

Then the man looked at the door, smiled then bowed to the ground and began to crawl towards a very small very low door, as he got close, he reached out to open the door, the moment his hand touched the handle he was lifted up off of the ground at an awesome speed and a door that was very high up opened to him, blinding light poured out the door as it opened as he entered in,

It was at this point that I notice there were other people in Front of the door, most of them ignored The holy Spirit, others actually argued with him when he directed them to a door to enter through,

Still others where trying to climb up to the high doors but the would keep falling, each time they fell they became more and more bitter.

I then saw another group, they were shouting, you must only come through this door and not only did try to force people through it, but they also tried to stop people going through the other doors the Holy Spirit was directing them to,

I could see that as a new door opened for a person it would sit upon the other open doors that person had, so each new door sat upon the others,

I then saw another group of people to the side of the door, they were all together rolling around in the mud in a pigpen, they were blind to their door for the mud covered their eyes, i could see many had been in the mud so long that they had began to rot in the midst of it.

Upon the door I saw the the words-
THE REVELATION OF THE CHRIST AND HIS KINGDOM

Let those who have an ear hear!" {4}

“Therefore watch yourselves very carefully. Since you saw no form on the day that the Lord spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire, beware lest you act corruptly by making a carved image for yourselves, in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female, he likeness of any animal that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the air, the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the water under the earth.." (Deuteronomy 4:15-18 cf. Romans 1:23).

{1} https://richards-watch.org/2017/12/18/simon-braker-awesome-vision-of-entrants-to-the-kingdom-and-of-players-in-pigpen/
{2} http://propheticdestiny.harvestim.org/
{3} http://www.spiritoferror.org/2016/06/nar-leaders-meet-with-the-pope/6045
{4} https://www.facebook.com/SOTPLeicester/posts/1636376046447155

Useful Links:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFFA8D69D1B914715
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tiXPZUkSbI&list=PLE1CB721E3CA65D76
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqmHs8zI-q4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5RUTDW5BZM