IS JACOB PRASCH HAVING A LAUGH? PROFESSIONAL POLICE ASSESSMENT!

PROFESSIONAL POLICE ASSESSMENT OF MORIEL MINISTRIES & J. JACOB PRASCH

We the undersigned as professional experienced police investigators with over half a century of detective experience combined in the investigation of crime wish to respond regarding the vexatious claims made against Moriel Ministries and Jacob Prasch by those supporting a Mr. David Nathan of South Africa in a theological dispute and those acting in concert with them. We specifically refer to internet posted material by the Catalyst organisation acting in apparent concert with the 'My Organizer' business enterprise of Stuart & Debora Menelaus of Fife, Scotland operating variously under the names of Bethel Communications and GV 24/7, along with the continuing diatribe by someone using the pseudonym tbckwaii, Who does not have the credibility or courage to disclose who he really is.

We first of all note that the claim that Moriel is under investigation is in itself devoid of substance as there is and has been no investigation, criminal or otherwise, by any government , police, or judicial agency. It is a contrived and defamatory assertion intended to give Catalyst kudos but shows them to be rather inept and foolish.

As senior police detectives we fundamentally reject such assertions directed against the Moriel Ministry and against Jacob Prasch as bogus and having no merit nor actual evidence. We have all known Jacob Prasch personally and are well familiar with Moriel for a number of years and any inordinate activity either personal or financial would have been recognized by us, and detected by any police investigator over a period of time. There has been none however. From the perspective of a police investigation, these allegations appear manufactured, meritless and personally vindictive using immature bullying and harassment tactics falsely portrayed as qualified superiority.

From the initial leading of the witness David Nathan on the GV247 program to the continued use of hearsay and conjecture by Catalyst, they have only made themselves look vindictive and motivated by spite. There is no evidence that would pass any criminal or civil threshold test, and they know it, otherwise they would have handed it over to a statutory authority .There is no justifiable or evidential basis for this continued attack by apparent Christian brethren which is harassment asthere is nothing established on the basis of any verifiable fact.

Such defamatory claims moreover are readily off-set by a range of witnesses intimately familiar with Moriel and its director whose testimonies are uniformly an endorsement of honesty and an affirmation of good character.

It is our assessment as senior investigating police detectives from three different nations with lifetime careers investigation crime and fraud that no credible police agency or jurisdiction would lend credence to the demonstrably contorted insinuations and character assassination attempts found in these unsubstantiated charges aimed at Moriel Ministries and against Jacob Prasch. His integrity remains secure, but that of the afore-mentioned must be considered tarnished.

Sergeant Amos Farrell
Sr. Detective (ret)
Scotland Yard
Metropolitan Police,
London (UK)

Captain Michael Benade
Detective Commander (ret)
South African National Police
(So. Africa)

Sr. Sergeant Michael Keaney
Senior Investigating Detective
New Zealand Police (NZ)

https://www.facebook.com/MorielTV/posts/2250444438607301?__tn__=K-R

Senior Investigating Police Detectives? I don't think so!!!

Are we supposed to take the above statement as a joke? Do these men have the authority to speak for the Police Authorities in their respective countries? Graham Baldwin has never claimed that an investigation by government, police, or judicial agency is underway! My understanding is that he is undertaking an investigation into Jacob Prasch/Moriel Ministries under the banner of Catalyst Counselling.

Critically, I have received information from the New Zealand Police Infringements Bureau that they have no record of Michael Keaney on their staff. They have informed me that this matter has been sent to the appropriate team for investigation. It is yet to be ascertained whether Farrell and Benade are genuine retired police officers. IF in fact they are, neither of them held senior positions!

Sergeant Amos Farrell Senior Detective:

There are no less than nine ranks above a Sergeant in the Metropolitan Police. {1} A senior position is well above the rank of Sergeant! {1} Here in the UK, the rank of Sergeant is above that of Police Constable, the lowest ranking police officer. In the Metropolitan Police, Farrell's title would have been Detective Sergeant and not Senior Detective.

Captain Michael Benade:

The rank of Captain in the South African Police is the second lowest rank, above that of Lieutenant. {2}

Sr. Sergeant Michael Keaney ?? 

The rank of Senior Sergeant in New Zealand is above that of Senior Constable and Sergeant. Inspectors and above are considered to be "Senior Detectives". {3} It appears that Keaney is not on the staff of the New Zealand Police in any event!

Well Jacob, the statement has been good for a laugh if nothing else!!! I nearly split my sides!

No one who practices deceit shall dwell in my house; no one who utters lies shall continue before my eyes. (Psalm 101:7).



1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Police_Service
2. https://rekordmoot.co.za/124086/what-you-might-not-have-known-about-police-ranks/
3. http://firedognz.weebly.com/rank-structure2.html

A MESSAGE TO THE CHURCH FROM STEWART MENELAWS

-Statement-

I have been asked to make a statement regarding the recent shameful witness that began well and truly at the feet of Jacob Prasch and his uncontrolled temper.

Despite my wife having been threatened and slandered by email some time before my interview with David Nathan, (which was an astonishing shock), I wrote to Jacob Prasch (someone I have respectfully advised, prayed for and supported for many years) to meet with me in private. He refused (despite his bold rant saying he would debate me to his followers) and sent various emails that were disparaging, disrespectful and filled with falsehoods. It was clear there was no reasoning with this abusive figure (which I attested to David Lister) and The Lord tells us not to converse with divisive individuals.

My only recourse was to submit myself to God fearing Saints who along with myself set apart weeks of prayer before addressing Prasch/Moriel in accordance with Matthew 18.15-17. I was deeply troubled in spirit as many can testify and desired to see repentance and reconciliation. My beautiful wife who is well known for her charity and commitment to the Saviour was being slandered in a nature that was utterly vile and I had to keep my heart right and allow The Father to tie my hands and trust in Him.

Everything done to try and get Prasch to face this situation (in private) has been met with bullishness and arrogance of a type that is utterly disgraceful even in the eyes of non-believers. In all my 30+ years of service I have never witnessed anything like it even from cult groups.

For more than 30 years, my wife and I have served our Lord Jesus Christ and His Body at great cost (and He alone knows this) and it has grieved us greatly to have witnessed many believer’s lives destroyed by other’s sin and covered up by leadership and fearful congregations.

As called by The Lord - we have a great deal of experience in this area of gently helping spiritually abused people find their way back to the safe arms of The Father. Under no circumstance will we be a party to covering up the sin Prasch / Moriel have avoided to face up to, which has left a trail of victims.

The LORD has made it clear and there is no other way…
If a malicious witness takes the stand to accuse someone of a crime, 17 the two people involved in the dispute must stand in the presence of the LORD before the priests and the judges who are in office at the time. 18 The judges must make a thorough investigation, and if the witness proves to be a liar, giving false testimony against a fellow Israelite, 19 then do to the false witness as that witness intended to do to the other party. You must purge the evil from among you. 20 The rest of the people will hear of this and be afraid, and never again will such an evil thing be done among you. (Deuteronomy 19:16-20)

Jacob Prasch must own up and put right the damage he alone is responsible for, as misguided zeal cannot justify his deplorable actions. Many people have written privately to him to that effect, hoping he would seek The Lord and do what is right. To date he has continued and also sanctions the slander of God fearing ministries and what is worst of all - he bullies and dishonours women because he is a coward.

Since the call to be accountable for his actions was rejected, the letter went out to a wider group of the church in-line with scripture asking all leaders to contact me for further information and discussion. I heard from a number of leaders who agreed but wanted to remain nameless for fear of having their names blasted all over social media as is Prasch’ s way.

Deborah has had to put public posts on Facebook in reply to numerous messages. Of course it is improper to bring such situations into the public domain but it was Moriel who took it into that realm themselves leaving no way of recourse since direct responses are never shared by Moriel. We have numerous records and accounts from around the world and we have not made any of them public, despite continuous false allegations that we are paying people to make nasty films about Jacob / Moriel. So we have indeed been restrained in the hope that given time, Godly sorrow would lead to repentance.

Please be assured, that if my secular production company were to make a film, there will be no doubt about who made it. At present I am involved in far more important and far reaching works for The Lord.

To date – every twisted piece of rhetoric regarding myself and my God fearing wife has been completely false and slanderous. I have offered leadership to come and visit us at our studio so that they may prayerfully see the facts, ask any questions and be encouraged by the breadth of work our hard working team are involved in.

Not only has no supporter of Moriel taken me up on this, they don’t even have the decency or courage to contact me directly. I am a very busy person but I am easy to contact and more than willing to take time with those who genuinely desire to walk upright with the Saviour.

For those immature in the faith who think that everything can be swept under the carpet because you think the name of Christ is being brought into disrepute, do not be fooled by such sentiment. It is The Lord who demands wickedness to be uncovered / exposed in accordance with His Holy Word.

The danger of leaving cancerous rot to continue its course is fatal. And while cancer can go into remission and make it look as though it has disappeared – it’s only a matter of time before it continues its march of death on the body.

For every leader who believes they have been called of The Lord – we will all be held accountable for covering sin. Correction is one thing, but spiritual abuse and false testimony are completely different.

I repeat, I certainly welcome any examination of our service before The Lord as we have nothing to hide and everything to share.

And in regard to the challenges David Nathan faced, we asked him to travel from South Africa to Scotland where we and other pastors examined the accusations for 4 days in which he gave a good account. David knew he needed to amend those areas of concern where required and to explain himself to others, which he was more than willing to do – and did do.
The way he was treated was disgraceful.

Let me ask you a question. If you wanted to repent and put right anything you may have done wrong, and you wrote many letters explaining these things, asking to meet and to be given a fair hearing, but you received no response… you are denied the right to repent and put things right. In fact, you are vilified time and time again without recourse. How would you feel? That is what was done to David Nathan and the dated email trail bears witness to this.

But that is what bullies and cult groups do. They control communication, they want to debate, but only if there is a camera there to film it all so they can show off.

I will not be a party to a cover-up of these many disgraces and repeat the words of our brother the apostle Paul –
Therefore I want men everywhere to pray, lifting up Holy Hands, without anger or dissension. (1 Timothy 2:8)

Please share freely with believers.

MY RESPONSE TO JOSHUA CHAVEZ: IS JACOB PRASCH REALLY UNDER INVESTIGATION?

Below is a very brief response to Joshua Chavez and his latest attempt to ridicule and defame those who have taken a stand against Jacob Prasch.

Is Jacob Prasch Really Under Investigation?
http://beginningofsorrows.org/2019/04/04/jacob-prasch-under-investigation/?fbclid=IwAR1kj4KJ62AAwaGSCX7dpRWfuyyrERS24FRmltp6vkdHc3vbvmkiAe_plgQ

I will only address the ad hominem attack aimed directly against myself.

Chavez: "Pat and Treena both contacted Jacob several years ago asking him baiting questions about women teachers." I have never contacted Prasch about women teachers! I did have direct contact with Moriel Ministries when I questioned them about Prasch's dubious intra-seal theory back in 2016! I communicated directly with Elon Moleh of Moriel Israel at that time:

Hi Treena,

Jacob's mobility is somewhat restricted at the moment, but he is more than happy to meet you face to face to discuss your concerns, as he can see that they are honest questions. I have copied him in on this e-mail, so if you wish to arrange between yourselves a meeting? His e-mail address should show up above. I will leave it to the two of you to arrange the details.

Blessings,
Elon

After exchanging a couple more emails with Elon, the suggested meeting came to nothing, due to the fact that I had reservations about meeting Prasch in London face to face. I can provide copies of these emails for anyone who is interested. After those emails, I left a question on a YouTube video of David Nathan's about Prasch's intra-seal rapture theory. The response that came back directly from Prasch was very abusive. It was at that point that I began seriously challenging intra-seal, not as an "obsession" as you claim, but as a matter of serious concern that Prasch was not the teacher he claimed to be.

Regarding the Rome Statute

Joshua Chavez: "She also cites the Rome Statute as some law that affords her protection. The Rome Statute is a treaty that established an international criminal court to prosecute things like genocide and crimes against humanity. Treena Gisborn apparently thinks so highly of herself that anyone that would dare to “violate her privacy” would be on par with someone guilty of genocide. This is either supreme narcissism or delusion.."

I do realise what the Rome Statute is about Joshua. I believed that the statement, which was forwarded to me, would give me some protection from Facebook and its associates using my information unethically or as "hate speech" at some future point. However it seems that this is not the case after all. I do not consider a breach of my privacy on a par with someone guilty of genocide - this is a ridiculous accusation! According to Snopes, it appears that statements like these are useless actually, so I must thank you for drawing attention to my error. {1} I have now removed the statement from my FB page.

Incidentally, Moriel Israel must also be under the same "delusion" since they also cite the Rome Statute!!!

The Guardian recently reported an example of Facebooks breach under the Data Protection Act: "Revealed 50 million Facebook profiles harvested for Cambridge Analytica in major data breach. “Facebook has failed to provide the kind of protections they are required to under the Data Protection Act,” said Elizabeth Denham, the information commissioner. ... The £500,000 cap was set by the Data Protection Act 1998." {2} This is an issue I think we should all be concerned about.

One of my FB friends, Carol Dunderdale, posted the comment: "Hope your OK Treena not upset xx".  I am pretty sure that this comment has been taken out of context and pasted separately underneath my Rome Statute post. I remember Carol being concerned about my health at one point because I suffer from osteoarthritis. If you had read the whole conversation, which I am sure you did, you would have realised what this comment related to. Nevertheless you chose to use it to defame me. This kind of dishonesty does you no favours Joshua! (Proverbs 11:3).

Carol Dunderdale's confirmation: "I also think it was when you weren't feeling well Treena, positively not anything to do with the Rome Statute which I have never heard of. The original comment to yourself needs to be found and he needs to be challenged on the use of it without our permission which you may be able to do as I have never heard of him either. Talk tomorrow, keep smiling. Roy & Carol."

Am I a feminist? Most definitely not! I have stated previously that I believe that church leadership should be male and that women should not have authority over men. (1 Timothy 2:12). Nevertheless, I do object to Prasch cutting and pasting various New Testament passages and making up his own rules about what women can and cannot do within the congregation. My post on this subject illustrates that God can and does use women as well as men, Deborah being the most obvious example:

The Gagging of the Sisters 
https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2016/07/jacob-prasch-moriel-ministries-gagging.html

Both yourself and Prasch have played the "Jezebel" card too often! It is nothing more than a smoke screen in order to deflect attention from the main issue i.e. Prasch's false teaching and dishonesty!

I am sorry you don't like my photo! I admit to looking serious, but I wouldn't say that I was "scowling". I am not photogenic, but I didn't think it was about outward appearance! (1 Samuel 16:7; 2 Corinthians 5:7. 10:7).

Joshua, there is something seriously wrong here. I suggest you concentrate your efforts on the theological issues associated with Prasch's scripture twisting and his abusive behaviour towards others, rather than maligning those who are exposing his lack of integrity! If this is the best you can do to defame myself and others then it is very miserable attempt.

1. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/facebook-posts-made-public/

2. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/11/facebook-fined-for-data-breaches-in-cambridge-analytica-scandal

CHE AHN CONFERENCE: ST JOHN THE BAPTIST CHURCH LEICESTER MAY 2019

St John the Baptist C of E Church Leicester
Friday 17th and 18th May: Ché Ahn Revival Night and Conference
Organised by Holy Trinity Church
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/revival-night-with-che-ahn-tickets-59413580619

The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) continues to make a negative impact on biblical Christianity here in Leicester. Of particular note are Holy Trinity Church Leicester (CofE), All Nations Church Leicester and Trinity Life Church Leicester (AOG Pentecostal). (Romans 16:17). The NAR is a large network of ecumenical churches that has developed out of the Pentecostal/charismatic movement. Its main aim is to restore the so called "five fold ministry" i.e. the restoration of church governance, namely the office of Apostle and Prophet to the 21st century church. This aim is linked to the "seven mountain mandate" aka "dominion theology", the NAR's pro active efforts to bring about a worldwide revival and establish a one world church on the earth prior to the return of Jesus. In actuality the NAR scenario represents the rule of the Antichrist. (Revelation 13:12). At its core, the NAR denies the sufficiency of scripture whilst reversing the biblical warnings of an end time falling away. (Matthew 24:10; Acts 20:29).

Ché Ahn is a big name within this movement. He is the successor of C Peter Wagner, the purported founder of the NAR and President of Global Harvest Ministries from 1993 to 2011. Ché Ahn is the Senior Pastor of "apostolic center" HRock Church in Pasadena CA and also the Founder and "Presiding Apostle" over Harvest International Ministry, an "apostolic network" of over 25,000 churches and ministries worldwide. Ché Ahn: "I have been given the unique opportunity to be an apostle to apostles. This is because of the specific anointing of God on my life." {1}

As "Presiding Apostle", Ché Ahn has a position of unique authority over the direction of the thousands of churches under his jurisdiction. This differs drastically from the New Testament model of church structure as outlined by the Apostle Paul. The newly formed New Testament churches were autonomous congregations with a plurality of local overseers directing their own specific affairs. Paul instructed Titus to ..appoint elders in every town as I directed you. (Titus 1:5; cf. Acts 14:23). NAR apostles and prophets claim to have power to overrule pastors and elders because of their claims to receive direct revelation from God.

Ché Ahn met the pope in 2016 with other NAR leaders

According to Ché Ahn: " The 1994 revival in Toronto restored the office of the apostle with the birth of many apostolic networks, including John and Carol Arnott’s Partners in Harvest, Rick Joyner’s MorningStar, Bill Johnson’s Global Legacy, Heidi and Rolland Baker’s Iris Ministries and our church’s own Harvest International Ministry.” {2}

During the so called "Lakeland Revival" in 2008, 32 year old deceiver and NAR "evangelist" Todd Bentley took part in an "Alignment Ceremony", during which "apostles" Ché Ahn, Bill Johnson and John Arnott laid hands on him. C Peter Wagner presided over the ceremony and read a lengthy statement about the need for apostolic alignment, i.e. submission to the authority of "apostles". Various "apostles" representing ICA, Revival Alliance, and Morning Star (Rick Joiner) stood on the platform to demonstrate their support for Bentley. Just days after this bizarre ceremony, Todd Bentley was exposed as an adulterer. None of the numerous miracles and healings that were reported to have taken place at Lakeland, including raising from the dead, can be verified! Despite the obvious issues, Ché Ahn and his dubious associates continue to claim apostolic authority over large sections of the church, and incredibly they are accepted as such by many! The Todd Bentley Fakeland fiasco hardly needs recounting in detail, it has been very well documented.

Apostolic Authority Based on Ephesians 4:11-13.

11And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers, 12to equip (καταρτισμὸν) the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ, 13until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ, 14so that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in deceitful schemes.

C Peter Wagner translated katartizō: "Aligning. literally setting a broken bone or a chiropractic adjustment.. That means putting things in order so that the body functions as it was designed to function." 

Strong's translation: 2675 katartízō (from 2596 /katá, "according to, down," intensifying artizō, "to adjust," which is derived from 739 /ártios, "properly adjusted") – properly, exactly fit (adjust) to be in good working order, i.e. adjusted exactly "down" to fully function. {3}

Wagner's translation was not incorrect, apart from the fact that he related it to the restoration of present day "apostles". My contention is that these present day "apostles and prophets" deviate from the original foundation that was set up by Jesus Christ. In Bill Johnson's words, they go "off map", i.e. they claim that God communicates new revelations directly through them. In this way, they contradict Jesus' apostles teaching as set out in the scriptures. In doing so they invalidate themselves as sound biblical teachers. (1 John 4:1).

Che Ahn: "When I use the term modern-day apostle, I am not comparing today’s apostles with the apostles of yesteryear. I am highlighting the fact that apostles are not relegated to yesteryear. They not only exist today, they play a critical role in bringing about revival and reformation." {4}

Typically, Che Ahn puts himself on a par with the original apostles, but this contradicts the foundation already laid:

19So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit. (Ephesians 2:19-22).

11For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— 13each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done.

St John the Baptist Church (CofE) is the latest of the churches in Leicester to fall foul of the New Apostolic Reformation. St John's ties with Holy Trinity Church in Leicester appears to be responsible for the shift. In late 2014, a team of people from Holy Trinity Leicester joined St John's to "strengthen the church’s mission and ministry." {5}

Suffice to say that St John's run the Alpha Course which has been described as an attempt to introduce the false doctrines and practices of the Third Wave into mainstream denominations. {6}

St John's Head of Logistics is Adam Simmonds, the much criticised former PCC of Northamptonshire, whose overspending and unwholesome policies have pretty much all been reversed by his successor, Stephen Mold. {7}

Simmonds was also the Director and Trustee of Trinity Life Church in Leicester from January 2013 – April 2014. As part of my exposé of TLC's unbiblical practices, I wrote a number of posts about Simmonds' toxic influence over the weak minded apostate leaders of that church. {8}

1. https://hrockchurch.com/modern-day-apostle/
2. https://books.google.co.uk/books?
3. https://biblehub.com/greek/2675.htm
4. https://hrockchurch.com/modern-day-apostle/
5. https://www.sjbchurch.co.uk/about-us
6. http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/alpha.html
7. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-36767050
8.https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/search/label/Adam%20Simmonds%20PCC%20Northampton


Further Links:

http://www.letusreason.org/Latrain54.htm
https://churchwatchcentral.com/2017/04/06/why-wagner-was-the-leader-of-the-nar-part-1-examining-the-lakeland-apostolic-alignment-ceremony/
http://www.spiritoferror.org/2017/09/new-nar-group-to-keep-your-eyes-on-the-international-coalition-of-prophets/7021

FRANK ROGERS EXPOSÉ OF JACOB PRASCH MORIEL MINISTRIES

JACOB PRASCH & MORIEL UNDER INVESTIGATION: GRAHAM BALDWIN PART 2

Below is an excerpt from Jacob the Deceiver - Evidence from Bethel Communications, the multimedia ministry of Deborah Menelaws and her team. It concerns the finances of Moriel USA:

The Evidence

FINANCES: For those who know what this is about, here is a link to the latest set of 990 forms based on their USA accounts showing how they spent the generous donations. They tried to hide these but the IRS have made them available as the public have a right to see.

Less than a quarter of the donations they receive go to their ‘good causes’ – $126,000 in the last tax year. That’s $50,000 LESS than Prasch and Lister took themselves. In fact, David Lister the treasurer took over $385,000 over the last few years – and he is supposed to have a full time job AND claims to work between 35 and 40 hours a week for Moriel.

We don’t need to justify ourselves but for anybody new to this disgraceful debacle, Studio Scotland has for nearly 15 years produced a free online Christian TV network with 24 channels featuring top experts from around the world called Global Vision TV at gv247.tv. Also, amongst many other Christian productions, we have also produced 2 secular projects to reach the unsaved to the glory of God. These are a TV documentary (The Daniel Project) and a movie based on it called The Daniel CONNECTION – which still owes us more than £150,000 production costs and nearly $10,000 distribution costs as, contrary to his lies, we have NOT sold either film to anybody – and certainly not to Hollywood – and we have NEVER benefited financially from any Christian work we have produced – which we do at our own expense.

DVDs: Here is a copy of the official statement explaining the background to the 2 secular films produced by Studio Scotland to reach the lost.

Back to the Moriel finances and here is a link to earlier years. With some interesting anomalies compared to the latest ones. And the UK charity ‘accounts’ raise several questions as researchers await the 2018 ones due any day now. See here

VIDEOS: Here is a link to just a few of the many videos out there exposing that he is indeed a deceiver in many different ways. The list includes “Jacob the Deceiver”, “The Pugilist”, “The Witchfinder General”, “The Narcissist” and “Phoney Argumentation”. It’s very sorry reading about a man who has fallen far, as The Lord reveals what has been hidden in the darkness. The irony is that if he hadn’t continually lied and accused others of things they weren’t doing, nobody would have looked at their finances. He and Moriel have brought it all down on their own heads.

Here are videos made by a professional counselling organisation who was contacted by just one of the women cruelly bullied by Prasch who became very unwell through it all. The director of the organisation which helps all kinds of people was so disgusted by what he saw, he made a warning video. After looking deeper – he made a second one. Here is a link to the transcript of the 1st video they made.

And here are some more. We don’t necessarily approve of all videos made about Moriel, but it gives a flavour of what kind of organisation we’re dealing with here. It is embarrassing. Even the muslims mock him.

https://www.bethelcommunications.tv/jacob-the-deceiver/

TREASURE HUNTING ~ BETHEL'S PSEUDO EVANGELISM LEICESTER 30TH MARCH 2019

Beware: ANCL Treasure Hunting & Outreach on the Streets 

All Nations Church in Leicester (ANCL) have announced that a team of Bethel Students will be joining them on Saturday, the 30th March in the city centre between 1:00pm - 4:00pm for the dubious activity of "Treasure Hunting" in the city centre. {1}

Treasure Hunting is a form of pseudo evangelism known as "prophetic evangelism" that appears to have originated at Bethel Church in Redding CA in 2005. {2}

Treasure Hunting is also associated with Healing on the Streets (HOTS) in the UK under the Vineyard banner. I warned about this practice back in 2012 when ANCL and Holy Trinity Church in Leicester joined forces to practice this particular form of pseudo evangelism. {3}

Typically, Treasure Hunting involves small teams of three or four people who decide on a place to conduct their "hunt", such as a park or a shopping centre. Prior to the Treasure Hunt, team members ask God to give them prophetic “words of knowledge” called “clues” about the specific people they will find at the chosen location. These clues may include a person’s name, descriptions of that person’s dress or appearance, and any ailments they may be suffering from etc. Team members mark these clues on a treasure map, which they then use to guide them to the person, called a “treasure”, who matches their clues.

Treasure Hunting is not supported by the scriptures and is problematic on a number of critical levels. Prophetic words of knowledge are not viewed as 100% accurate even by their proponents. A major concern is that these "words of knowledge" are a figment of the imagination of those seeking "clues", or even worse, that they are a form of occult divination. (Jeremiah 23:16, 35-26; 27:9; Ezekiel 13:2). Should the unsuspecting public be subjected to these dubious practices?

In 2012 the ASA upheld complaints about a leaflet that stated: "NEED HEALING? GOD CAN HEAL TODAY!” listing various diseases.

"While the ASA acknowledged that the advertiser believed that prayer could treat illness, it concluded that the ad made unsubstantiated claims and could discourage people, particularly the vulnerable or those suffering from undiagnosed symptoms, from seeking essential treatment. It ruled the ad could encourage false hope in those suffering from the named conditions and was therefore irresponsible (Healing on the Streets – Bath, 13 June 2013). To date CAP has not seen evidence that religious healing can treat or cure illness, dysfunction or malformations. Marketers should be aware that testimonials alone are unlikely to suffice as adequate substantiation." {4}

The biblical definition of evangelism is: Zealous preaching (promulgation dissemination) of the gospel; spreading the word, spreading the gospel, telling the gospel message. There is no indication in the scriptures that we should get "creative" and do things in another way according to man made methodologies. Seeking signs for their own sake is wicked according to Jesus Christ. (Matthew 12:39). 

The primary mission of the church is to preach the gospel. And he said to them, "Go into all the world and proclaim the good news to the whole creation. (Mark 16/15). Problematically, the clear message of the gospel is missing from this kind of "outreach".

Both Jesus Christ and Paul gave priority to the gospel message. But he said to them, "I must proclaim the good news of the kingdom of God to the other cities also; for I was sent for this purpose." (Luke 4/43).

If I proclaim the gospel, this gives me no ground for boasting, for an obligation is laid on me, and woe to me if I do not proclaim the gospel! (1 Corinthians 9/16).

Jesus went throughout Galilee, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the good news of the kingdom and curing every disease and every sickness among the people. (Matthew 4/23).

And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people. (Matthew 9:35) .

As you go, proclaim the good news, "The kingdom of heaven has come near. 'Cure the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers,cast out demons. You received without payment; give without payment. (Matthew 10/7-8).

"Go into all the world and proclaim the good news to the whole creation. The one who believes and is baptized will be saved; but the one who does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: by using my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues;they will pick up snakes in their hands,and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover." (Mark 16/15-18).

And they went out and proclaimed the good news everywhere, while the Lord worked with them and confirmed the message by the signs that accompanied it. (Mark 16/20). Notice that the signs were a confirmation of the gospel message and not an end in themselves!

..and he sent them out to proclaim the kingdom of God and to heal. (Luke 9/2).

They departed and went through the villages, bringing the good news and curing diseases everywhere. (Luke 9/6).

But when they believed Philip as he preached good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Even Simon himself believed, and after being baptized he continued with Philip. And seeing signs and great miracles performed, he was amazed. (Acts 8).

You know the message he sent to the people of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ—he is Lord of all. That message spread throughout Judea, beginning in Galilee after the baptism that John announced: how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power; how he went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him. (Acts 10/36-38).

And the prayer of faith will save the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. ( James 5/15). In this instance James was addressing believers, not those outside the church.

There are instances of people coming to Jesus for healing e.g. the leper Matthew 8/2); the centurion (for his servant) (Matthew 8/5; Luke 7/2) Jairus (for his daughter) (Mark 5/22; Luke 8/41); the ten lepers Luke 17/11-19) These people had all clearly heard of Jesus’ teachings and healings and they recognised his authority, they came to Jesus –he did not go them (Peter’s mother in law being the exception). Jesus did not promote his healings or miracles, in fact he sometimes told those he healed not to tell anyone. (Matthew 8/4; Mark 1/44; 5/43;7/36) Jesus’ ministry was hindered by the leper's disobedience in telling about his healing (Mark 1/45).

In the instance of the demoniacs - it was the demons, not the men themselves who recognised Jesus – this was not a physical healing but an exorcism:

When he came to the other side, to the country of the Gadarenes, two demoniacs coming out of the tombs met him. They were so fierce that no one could pass that way. Suddenly they shouted, "What have you to do with us, Son of God? Have you come here to torment us before the time?" (Matthew 8/28-29) Jesus told the healed demoniac to go home and declare how much God has done for you. (Luke 8/39; Matthew 8/28). 

So they remained for a long time, speaking boldly for the Lord, who testified to the word of his grace by granting signs and wonders to be done through them. (Acts 14/3).

Very sadly, Bethel students are extremely vulnerable young people who have been brainwashed by the Bethel cult of Bill Johnson. Johnson personally brought a group of Bethel Students to England in 2012? where they practiced necromancy in the form of grave sucking/soaking. The numerous bizarre practices of Bethel are a matter of great concern to many discernment ministries.

1. https://ancl.churchsuite.co.uk/events/3w12zbpd
2. https://www.bethel.com/testimonies/gods-treasure-hunt/
3. https://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/HEALING-ON-THE-STREETS-PSEUDO-EVANGELISM
4. https://www.asa.org.uk/advice-online/religious-and-spiritual-healing.html