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Friday, 22 May 2015

New Wine Deception: Holy Trinity Church Leicester and Leicester City Vineyard Church

What Is New Wine And What Is Its History?

New Wine is a very dangerous movement of churches in the UK which was originally established in 1989 as a Christian festival under the leadership of Anglican vicar David Pytches of St. Andrew's Church in Chorleywood. The story of New Wine begins with false teacher/prophet, the late John Wimber, who had a considerable influence upon Pytches.

During the 1980s, Pytches hosted number of hyped up meetings at the Docklands Arena together with John Wimber and the Kansas City (false) Prophets (KCP) including Paul Cain and Mike Bickle. In 1990 Pytches wrote bestseller "Some Said It Thundered" which gave credence to the false teachings and bizarre manifestations associated with the KCP. St Andrew's Chorleywood also spawned false prophet/teacher Mark Stibbe, Pytches successor. Both Stibbe and Pytches were fervent supporters of the Toronto deception fronted by "Mr Bam" himself, Todd Bentley. Wimber, Pytches and the KCP were determined to have a "revival" one way or the other, but it soon became clear that they were false prophets, puffed up with their own delusional unbiblical ideas rather than the true wisdom that comes from God (1 Corinthians 1:25).

In February 1990, Paul Cain, falsely predicted a supernatural revival which would start in Britain and spread into Germany in October of that year. Mike Bickle claimed to have had five separate confirmations of this false prophecy, but it failed to materialise.

Paul Cain: “Thus saith the Lord: Revival will be released in England in October of 1990....."

John Wimber: "In February of 1990 at the 'Holiness' conference in Anaheim over 9,000 people from all over the world heard Paul Cain prophesy that revival would begin in England. He said, “The first shot [of revival] is going to be fired when John [Wimber] comes to England the next time.” He was referring to our scheduled October meetings." 
http://holyworldwide.com/dustinhedrick/?page_id=1835

These "prophets" even denied the clear teaching in God's Word and reinterpreted the demonic horde of locusts in Joel’s apocalyptic vision "prophetically" as Joel's Army i.e. themselves and their deluded followers. (Joel 2:4; Revelation 9:1-11)

"This army is also in the New Testament. It's referred to as the MANCHILD. I know some of you are going to disagree with this. Don't you even stop to disagree. Revelation 12:25...if you disagree, just file it in miscellaneous and check it out. And don't bother with it. When we get to heaven we'll check it out and you'll find out I'm right....."  (Paul Cain, Joel's Army, Kansas City Fellowship Southside Meeting).

The only problem with not bothering to check out Paul Cain's insane rantings is that when we get to heaven it will be too late. Christians are warned to test the spirits here and now (1 John 4:1) The male child in Revelation 12:25 is of course Jesus Christ!

The Docklands fiasco has left a terrible legacy and we are now witnessing an unprecidented progression of occult practices and manifestations in many churches, such as impartation, grave sucking, the glory cloud, birthing, the inner room experience, spiritual levels, the overcomers, Joshua generation, Joel's Army, Saul and David, Ishmael and Isaac, the Jezebel spirit, school of the prophets, tabernacle of David, city church and much more. These occult deceptions are taking over entire regions, both here in the UK and worldwide. 

John Wimber's Apostate Legacy - The Apostolic Reformation (NAR)

These days New Wine is associated with a much wider apostate movement known as the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) also known as Dominionism, Third Wave, Latter Rain, Kingdom Now, Joel’s Army, Manifest Sons of God, Charismatic Renewal etc.

The NAR leaders claim falsely that God is restoring the offices of Prophet and Apostle as a model for church governance in the end times. Wimber held the delusional belief that he was a latter-day apostle to all the churches. In fact many of todays so called "prophets and apostles" hold celebrity status; they are completely delusional and are answerable to no one! Wimber's disciple C Peter Wagner claims apostolic authority for himself as the "Presiding Apostle" over an organisation called International Coalition of Apostles (ICA). He claims that he was "commissioned by God" as the "apostle" of the "second apostolic age." According to the false gospel of Wagner, “The second apostolic age began in the year 2001 when the lost offices of prophet and apostle were restored." Sounds very grand doesn't it! Others who claim the title of "apostle" for themselves are Rick Joyner, Mike Bickle (now leader of the spiritually corrupt International House of Prayer {IHOP}). Cindy Jacobs (Generals International), Bill Johnson (Bethel Church Redding), Che Ahn (HRock Church Pasadena) etc. ALL these apostates are proven false prophets, they do not qualify in any way to lead the true church; their prophecies are false, their teaching is aberant and in many cases their lifestyles are unbiblical, Paul Cain being the most blatant example. These modern day "apostles and prophets" claim a unique position of authority, even putting themselves above the original apostles of Jesus Christ. They say that God is giving them new revelations apart from the Bible while proclaiming that experience takes precedence over the teaching of Jesus Christ and the apostles.Their stated aim is for the church to literally take over society prior to the return of Christ in a similar manner to that of the Popes during the Dark Ages. This global church is to be led by an exclusive group of apostles and prophets, i.e. themselves! In fact the Bible teaches the polar opposite. Revelation 19:11-21 makes it clear that JESUS CHRIST (NOT THE CHURCH) will achieve dominion on the earth (Revelation 22:19).

The false prophets associated with New Wine and the NAR claim that prophecy is "conditional" in the New Testament i.e. there is provision for a margin of error in prophecy - this is their get out clause when their prophecies fail!!! However, the Bible does not make a distinction between Old and New Testament prophets or prophecy. The Bible calls false prophets presumptuous: But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die. (Deuteronomy 18:20, see also Deuteronomy 13:1-5; 17:12; 18:21-22; 1 Kings 18:40; Jeremiah 14:14; 23:30; 26:11; Zechariah 13:3). Jesus Christ warned that in the end times many false prophets will arise and lead many astray (Matthew 24:11). In fact the New Testament warns us repeatedly to be on our guard against spiritual deception: Matthew 7:15; 24:5; 24:24; 1 John 4:1; 2 Peter 2:1. 

Additionally, the NAR promotes strategic-level spiritual warfare in contradiction to Daniel 10 and Jude 9 which assigns spiritual warfare against territorial spirits to Michael and the angels not to human beings.

These pretenders continue to infiltrate and deceive large portions of the church worldwide.

Woe to the foolish prophets who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing! (Ezekiel 13:13)

Let these false prophets tell their dreams, but let my true messengers faithfully proclaim my every word. There is a difference between straw and grain! (Jeremiah 23:28; 1 Corinthians 3:12) 

Holy Trinity Church Leicester

Why would anyone with even the smallest amount of spiritual discernment be involved with New Wine when its roots and practices are so obviously bad (Matthew 7:17-18)? Nevertheless, the hirelings at Holy Trinity Church Leicester are backing New Wine to the hilt!

John McGinley, vicar of Holy Trinity Leicester is the Regional Director for the Midlands and East branch of New Wine. Inevitably therefore Holy Trinity Church is heavily involved with New Wine. In fact Holy Trinity are promoting New Wine Discipleship Year 2014-15 which is aimed at 18-24 year olds. "Discipleship Year is to equip, encourage and empower you with solid foundations for life as a follower of Jesus." http://www.holytrinityleicester.org/newwine.html I would point out that John McGinley's definition of "solid foundations" is not biblical! Holy Trinity are involved with a whole plethora of false teachings, including Sozo (Bill Johnson), Monasticism and 3DM (Mike Breen), Breathe (eastern mysticism), Ecumenism, Mission Shaped Communities (Mark Stibbe) and who knows what other doctrines of demons. In fact John McGinley seems determined to promote anything and everything apart from the teaching of Jesus Christ and his apostles (Acts 2:42)!

http://www.new-wine.org/home/meet-leaders
http://www.new-wine.org/home/about-us
http://www.new-wine.org/worship/magazine/article/1858
http://www.new-wine.org/events/new-wine-worship-school-leicester
http://www.holytrinityleicester.org/docs/HTL_ProgrammeSummer2015.pdf

Leicester City Vineyard Church:

John Wimber's false teachings continue to deceive many people through the Vineyard Movement, a network of charismatic churches founded by Wimber in 1982. John Wimber is virtually idolised on the website of Leicester City Vineyard Church:
  
"It became clear that the church’s emphasis on the experience of the Holy Spirit was not shared by some leaders in the Calvary Chapel movement. In 1982, John’s church left Calvary Chapel and joined a small group of Vineyard churches. Vineyard was a name chosen by Kenn Gulliksen, a prolific church planter affiliated with Calvary Chapel, for a church he planted in Los Angeles in 1974. Pastors and leaders from the handful of Vineyard churches began looking to John for direction. And the Vineyard movement was born." 
http://www.leicestercityvineyard.org.uk/about/

Wimber's split with Calvary Chapel involved an acrimonious dispute which focused on the authority of Scripture as it relates to the display of signs and wonders in the church. Wimber was actually forced to leave!

Vineyard's friendly coffee and doughnuts approach masks Wimber's dangerous unbiblical teachings.

ounder and lecturer for the Fuller Church Growth Institute. - See more at: http://www.inplainsite.org/html/vineyard_john_wimber.html#sthash.DdwyH4F9.dpuf
ounder and lecturer for the Fuller Church Growth Institute. - See more at: http://www.inplainsite.org/html/vineyard_john_wimber.html#sthash.DdwyH4F9.dpufVineyard soft appeal via coffee doughnuts so i am told chocolates....  etc. with very little of the Word of God is extremely deceptive.
It should be noted that both Holy Trinity Church and Leicester City Vineyard Church are following an ecumenical agenda which fits in with Wimber's false beliefs i.e. a de-emphasization of doctrine for the sake of bringing all Christian denominations together under one tent. Both John McGinley of Holy Trinity and Steve Barber, the leader of Leicester City Vineyard Church attended ecumenical Churches Together Breakfast on 10th of May last year, said to be "inspired" by David Hind, the leader of Trinity Life Church. Beware of ecumenism!

http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/pentecostal-prostitution-ecumenical.html
https://standfirminthelord.wordpress.com/2014/07/23/trinity-life-church-leicester-the-different-masks-of-david-hind/

More Background About John Wimber
One man, with little or no Biblical discernment, was almost single handedly responsible for the spread of one of the most dangerous movements in the church today... The Latter Rain. This small movement that began in Canada, eventually became the cornerstone for various offshoots, the most prominent of which are (or were) Joel’s Army, First-Fruits, Identity, Manifest Sons of God, Restoration, Reconstruction, Kingdom Message, Elijah Company, Overcomers, etc.
- See more at: http://www.inplainsite.org/html/vineyard_churches.html#sthash.YphEjwrF.dpuf

John Wimber (1934-1997) built what is known as "power evangelism" on the teachings of theologian George Eldon Ladd which led him to the opinion that miracles such as healings, words of knowledge and speaking in tongues play an essential role in bringing people to faith in Christ. Wimber: "I felt that God wanted me to concentrate on the relationship of supernatural signs and wonders to church growth during the decade." I personally do believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit and I am not writing this post from a cessationist point of view. I believe the problem with Wimber's theology is that it over emphasises the miraculous at the expense of the Gospel. In other words, Wimber subverted the biblical teaching that faith comes by hearing (Romans 10:17) and replaced it with the diametric opposite, pragmatism - if it works I will accept it and believe it. The great commission is very simple: Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation (Mark 16:15). Paul tells us that the gospel is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes (Romans 1:16). Wimber ventured into excessive experientialism and a dangerous mixture of truth and error which he later distanced himself from. The Bible tells us that an evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign (Matthew 12:39; 16:4; Luke 11:29). Wimber's mantra: "God is bigger than his written Word."  This arrogant statement is an outright denial of the sufficiency of the scriptures which are divinely inspired and give us EVERYTHING needed to live the Christian life. Christians are specifically warned not to go beyond what is written (1 Corinthians 4:6): 

 

All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. (1 Timothy 3:16-17) 

 

Forever, O LORD, your word is firmly fixed in the heavens. (Psalm 119:89)

 

Jesus Christ IS the WORD!!!! 

 

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. (John 1:14)




Further reading:

http://www.fows.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=57:power-evangelism&catid=40:orthos-archive&Itemid=59
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/wimber.html
http://www.letusreason.org/latrain21.htm
http://www.worldlibrary.org/articles/new_wine
http://www.inplainsite.org/html/vineyard_john_wimber.html
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/vine/vineyard.htm
http://files.wtctheology.org.uk/wl/?id=im&filename=WTC%20Conf%20paper.pdf
https://feasite.org/modern_false_prophets_and_apostles
http://eliora.hubpages.com/hub/A-CRITIQUE-OF-MISSION-SHAPED-COMMUNITIES-HOLY-TRINITY-LEICESTER
http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/church-issues/nar/paul-cain-r-t-kendell-and-friends
http://beyondgrace.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/david-pytches-some-said-it-thundered.html
http://beyondgrace.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/mike-bickle-white-horse-prophecy.html

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

You say
"I am not writing this post from a cessationist point of view"; herein lies the problem.
The Pentecostal error (1907 Azusa Street onwards) gave rise to all that you are in opposition to. When cessationism became unpopular, so to speak, the floodgates of hell broke through.
The so-called miraculous gifts vanished at the close of the Apostolic age, the Bible clearly teaches this, of that there is no doubt. At the closing chapter of his life Paul said ""Trophimus have I left at Miletum sick" 2 Timothy 4.20. Is not this the Apostle who raised the dead and did many other wonderful works?
Although I believe the Bible teaches the cessation of the miraculous gifts, lets face it; if miracles were common place, would not they cease to be miracles!?
If we read 1 Corinthians 13 without prejudice we will come to the same conclusion as the old Divines did for the last near 2000 years, until Azusa street came on the scene. Paul said "Whether they be tongues, they shall cease..." He then concludes at the end of this chapter by saying "And now abideth faith, hope, charity..." The miraculous Apostolic gifts ceased, tongues were a sign for unbelieving Jews, true believers don't hope for a Lazarus resurrection, only to die again, but for a resurrection unto eternal life! As Abraham did; they look for the heavenly Jerusalem! Hebrews 11.10, Revelation 21.10!
As believers in Christ the Saviour, faith and hope DO abide (in the present) but when we see Him "as He is" 1 John 3.2, we will no longer need "faith and hope", for "We are saved by hope, but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?" Romans 8.24.
The Apostle says that the greatest of faith, hope and love, is love, which will never pass away. Paul said clearly that "prophecies shall be done away" or "fail", obviously he wrote this before the inspired Patmos seer?
As believers we should certainly believe, and hold to the ministering gifts (they have NOT yet ceased)as Paul expounded in the latter part of 1 Corinthians 12.
God bless you.

Treena Gisborn said...

1 Corinithains 13/8-10: "As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away."
It says that they WILL pass away, not that they HAVE passed away.

James 5/15 "And the prayer of faith will save the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven."

Paul gave exhaustive teaching about the gifts of the Spirit in 1 Corinthians 12.

1 Corinthians 14/1: "Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy."

There is no biblical teaching that the gifts have ceased Anonymous. God bless t

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Treena Gisborn said...

Many church fathers believed in spiritual gifts Anon.... this is not a salvation issue and I think we are getting off subject here. This post is not a discussion about the authenticity of genuine spiritual gifts, it is about the abuse/counterfeit of the gifts. Eusebius, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Clement of Alexandria all believed in spiritual gifts. More importantly the scriptures do not say that the gifts have ceased. I suggest you read - http://www.neverthirsty.org/pp/other-bible-studies/spiritual-gifts-of-the-holy-spirit/tongues_and_prophecy/ministry_of_the_spirit-tongues_prophecy13.html

Anonymous said...

I am in perfect agreement with the names you mention, like them, I believe in "spiritual gifts", but also, (I believe) am in accord with them, that they have ceased.
This modern Pentecostal movement as you well know has given rise to the dreadful shenanigans that you are writing against? The Scriptures (rightly divided) DO say that the miraculous gifts have ceased. It is very strange that, that other RTV 'hero' Justin Peters, shares the SAME platform as Prasch on Truth for Youth, yet he is an avowed cessationist. Peters, because of his severe disability sought (naturally so) miraculous healing; yet he soon discovered it was not to be. He was told, healing didn't come; like many others, because it was his lack of faith! This is how the WOF's operate, but most surely you know all of this? Peters didn't become a Calvinist because he desired it, it was the only theological position that he understood could agree perfectly with God's Word. If tongues are for today (and the Bible so very clearly says otherwise), can you please, please, explain why miraculous healing doesn't take place today? Because, if tongues are for today, then so is miraculous healing and deliverance? If this be the case, then I can see why the apostates you are writing against believe in what they do!!!
I am always very troubled by statements such as "this is not a salvation issue" or that other unbiblical saying "a non essential doctrine". God's holy Word is truth, all of it. Acts 20.27. If we say things like "this is not a salvation issue" or "not an essential doctrine", we know not where God will send us?
God bless you.

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