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Friday 11 January 2019

THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL NOT OPERATE THE WAY JESUS PREDICTED HE WOULD IN JOHN'S GOSPEL (JACOB PRASCH) PART 1 BY CLOSINGSTAGES

Posted on January 11, 2019 by Mike Rogers

13 comments:

  1. I wouldn't have believed he said that, if I hadn't heard it it with my own ears.
    Is this not tantamount to calling the Lord a liar? How does this statement compare with Nathan's blunders?

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  2. Precisely Colin!
    The problem is that no matter what anyone proves about Prasch, I believe that Bill Randles, John Haller and Amos Farrell will do absolutely nothing.
    As I have said before.. What is the deal?
    God bless.

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  3. Shocking statements made here.
    Hard to grasp that a true Christian could utter them. Right up there with 'Ye shall not surely die'.

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  4. I have not read Prasch's book 'Harpazo' Mike.. I didn't want to waste my money! Pat and Mike have kindly sent me some excerpts from it. Prasch's demonic teaching undermines the ministry of the Holy Spirit and of Jesus Christ Himself!
    God bless.

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  5. Treena,
    In not so many words, is not Prasch saying; "Don't listen to Jesus, for he didn't really have the full grasp of prophecy as I now do?

    As you well know, Prasch is not a cessationist;for he believes that there ARE people (wannabe 'prophets') about today, such as David Noakes that actually DO speak in the first Person; i.e, that they are literally God's mouthpiece! does not their ecumenism betray their words?
    I can now see (though many have yet to receive such revelation, if indeed they ever will?) the SOLID IRON safeguards that cessationism provides in these last days. For if Prasch believes (and he certainly does!) that there are still 'prophets' speaking in the first Person, then it may be that he WILL take notice of them, and promote their false visions as indeed he HAS so done?

    As for Randles, Haller, Farrell and their acolytes, I can only believe, (unless God grants them the "eyesalve that thou mayest see." Rev,3:18) that they are so infatuated with Prasch that they will be led of such an one to the effect that they will all "fall into the ditch" with him; Matthew 15:14?
    I find it difficult, nay, impossible to believe, that any Christian of long standing can support this man in any shape, form or fashion.
    Regarding his book "Harpazo", no, I too, will NEVER read it! His book "Shadows Of The Beast" finished him off for me!
    I also believe you have more chance of a flying pink elephant landing in your drive tonight than Randles looking into Prasch's woeful intra-seal bunkum any time soon
    God bless.

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  6. Hopefully the scandal over David Nathan has opened many people's eyes to what exactly Prasch is Colin. We (Pat, Mike and I) could not have provided more evidence of his false teachings and his character I think - though part two is shortly expected from Pat and Mike. I am thoroughly Prashed out - for the moment at least. Faced with the evidence it is difficult to imagine anyone supporting Prasch, and if they do they are wilfully ignorant. (Randles).

    I am not expecting the flying pink elephant any time soon.

    God bless.

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  7. As s person that has followed and used many of their teachings and articles. Jacob, Nathan, Bill, John
    I wish this back and forth would all cease until the face to face meeting(?) is set up between as many characters as necessary until it all goes away. I don't know how many feel as I do but all this he said-she said -they said- this video-that video-this email-that email-this blog-that blog is getting old! The old saying” When you're pointing a finger at someone there are three fingers pointing back at you. As Christians, we can all read Scriptures and ask the Holy Spirit for discernment. Ms.Gisborn I am a new reader of your blog and I know the purpose of a blog is to interact with others that you hope will agree with your comments and assertions. I agree that Jacob can be brash and I don't always agree with everything he says or writes. I've tried to follow along with your rebuke of some of his teachings. I haven't had a chance to read everything you've ever posted, or written but possibly I won't agree with you on everything? I've purchased your book and I don't say you didn't make a valid point, but as with Jacob; you two can sight Scripture after Scripture but what I believe is between me and the Holy Spirit.

    I have followed David for a few years now and his Eschatology 2017 is (in my opinion) one of the best, if not the best study to date. That doesn't take away from some of the things he has said about God and creation, the blood of Jesus or his slaying in the Spirit (Benny Hinn style). Some say he has corrected himself and that's one of the reasons I'd like to see the “meeting” take place so the air can be cleared, if possible, and we can get past all of this.

    I've also listened to Bill in the past and I enjoy his sermons and studies. I too wish he had stayed away for all this backbiting but now he must live with it. As for his wife's comments, she's may just love her husband and feels she must stand up for him?

    John Haller - Every Monday I make a point of watching his Prophecy Updates as there always up to date and informative. Bill and John must make up their own mind as it relates to Jacob and his teachings. If it was necessary to agree with everything the people with whom you associate, then we'd all be alone in this world. If a person had to answer for everything posted on the internet they wouldn't have time for anything else. If you have a problem with someone's teachings, then do as you do, reach as many people as you can, but don't expect them to agree with you all the time.

    Here's a blog “Let's Get It Right” I think you might enjoy? The following is just a few of his articles.
    https://pbenson.me/2018/12/04/when-proof-goes-poof-answering-16-proofs-of-a-pre-trib-rapture/
    https://pbenson.me/2017/02/07/a-deceiving-distraction-the-restrainer/
    https://pbenson.me/?s=matt+24
    https://pbenson.me/2018/04/17/the-ostrich-theory-uncovering-the-errors-of-dispensationalism-part-i/

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  8. Chas-a-roo.. you left your comment on my post "Mark Of The Beast" in error.. I have therefore transferred it to this post.
    I do not expect everyone to agree with me, that is your presumption. However, Christians are expected to "test the spirits". If we are to be Bereans, the scriptures are the ultimate test, not anything that I or anyone else might say. You are right - Bill Randles and John Haller must make up their own minds about Prasch. However my objection is that Bill Randles will not answer reasonable questions about how precisely David Nathan should word a retraction to their satisfaction and put things right. Furthermore, to date Bill Randles has not been willing to test Prasch's intra-seal theory. As such it seems to me that something is very wrong? As for Kristin Randles.. self control might be advised - what she said to me was completely ridiculous!

    I notice that Prasch now calls Anton Bosch a heretic!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSmBFSX1nMs
    I know nothing about Anton Bosch's theology and so I cannot comment on this video in that respect. However I do take issue with Prasch's assertion that Deborah, the OT Judge, was under the authority of Barak. Not so.. Deborah summoned Barak and gave him instructions from the Lord. Barak was too cowardly to go without her.. “If you will go with me, I will go, but if you will not go with me, I will not go.” Read Judges 4:4-10. Prasch conveniently overlooks the exceptions when he teaches about women!

    Watch Jacob Prasch's "Scorched Earth" Policy and Trumpeted Greek Ability Questioned by James White on Vimeo:
    https://vimeo.com/311012257

    God bless

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  9. Hi Treena, just watched Prasch's video on Anton Bosch.

    He starts off by saying he wants to keep it doctrinal and not personal. He begins speaking of the positives of Anton's ministry before the subtle digs and attacks start. I said to my wife about 55 mins into the video, "at least he hasn't called Anton a crackpot yet!" Well about the 1hour to 1.05 mark Anton joins the catalogue of crackpots! Also we are made aware that Anton is mentally deficient!

    I wonder what Bill thinks about Jacobs comments on his good friend Anton Bosch?






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  10. ANTON BOSCH'S RESPONSE TO PRASCH ON FACEBOOK:
    https://www.facebook.com/anton.bosch.127
    "What I Actually Believe
    In the light of a recent video that falsely attacks what I believe and accuses me of heresy, it is necessary for me to clear up what I actually believe on three points:
    Successionism and Impartation
    I have been very clear in my teaching over the years that I reject both those ideas. I do not believe that gifts, ministries or offices can be passed from one person (or generation) to another. As early as 2007 in my book Building Blocks of the Church I devoted a page and a half (pp143,144) to a rebuttal of the idea of (apostolic) succession. I said, inter alia: “...a personal gift cannot be bequeathed.” As recently as December 2016 in my audio recordings dealing with 2Timothy 1:6, I deal with, and oppose, the idea of impartation (38 minute mark). Any statement that I believe that a gift or office or ministry can be passed from one person to another is not the truth. Gifts, anointings, ministries, and offices cannot be passed from one to another through the laying on of hands or any other method. The church can only recognize gifts that God has given (1Corinthians 12:11). The body of truth, on the other hand, is passed from one generation to the next through the process of making disciples: “And the things that you have heard from me among many witnesses, commit these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also.” (2Timothy 2:2)
    Women Teaching Men
    Again, this is a concept I have consistently taught against for the past 48 years. I am often asked about the role of women in the church and my standard reply is that "women can do anything but they cannot teach or usurp authority over men". The Scriptures are plain: “And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.” (1Timothy 2:12). I have not deviated from this position for 48 years and my teachings are replete with statements to this effect.
    Eternally Begotten
    I believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is eternal (co-eternal with the Father and the Holy Spirit). He is without beginning and end. “Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” (John 8:58) I reject the idea that Jesus was “begotten”, was “generated” or “came forth” in eternity past since it diminishes the fact of his eternality and therefore His deity and is born out of Arianism.
    I have not deviated from these teachings and have believed and taught them consistently for almost five decades now and am happy to provide further supporting evidence for any of the above."

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  11. https://vimeo.com/313843746?activityReferer=1

    This states it all

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  12. The Holy Spirit will not restrain, he will not operate the way Jesus predicted he would in John’s gospel, convicting the world of sin, righteousness and judgement. That says it all. Prasch knows more about the Spirit’s role and function than Jesus does. What utter rot!

    It’s a really good article. It demolishes Prasch’s strange theories in my opinion. He’s a twister, a false teacher and should be avoided. People are scared of him and his vile tongue and no wonder the way he goes after people and gets others to chime in. School yard bully tactics!

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  13. Prasch has gained a lot of influence in certain circles Monopode. It has been done piecemeal. He has gained the confidence of some due to his previous stand against apostates, and also his supposed scriptural knowledge has impressed some. I think that he does have knowledge, but that he twists the scriptures. In other words, his deception is deliberate. It appears that it is not easy to disentangle oneself from Prasch, as David Nathan found out to his cost when he announced his decision to leave Moriel! Bill Randles and others should take care that they do not become ensnared in Prasch's wickedness.
    "The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe."
    Proverbs 29:25.

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