Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.You will recognize them by their fruits (Matthew 7/15-16)
I agree with Obama, Gore and many others that climate change is very real.
But the climate change COVER-UP - something that Obama, Gore etc. don't talk about - is real too!
Here are some climate-related disasters that world leaders and the media have swept under the rug:
(1) The volcano that polluted so much of the oceans that a huge percentage of sea creatures died.
(2) Something like an asteroid polluted some major river systems, causing the deaths of many who tried to drink the water.
(3) A plague of
scorpion-like creatures coming mysteriously out of the earth that
attacked and poisoned vast numbers of persons - and no known treatment
or medicine was able to stop the disaster.
(4) The sudden,
record-breaking solar flare that horribly scorched many globally that's
never been reported in the mainstream media!
(5) The unexplainable evaporation of all of the water in one of the greatest rivers on earth.
(6) A hailstorm with hail the largest in recorded history (when compared with hailstorms before and after it).
By the way, all of the
above disasters were actually predicted, but Obama and other world
leaders and activists have decided that total silence is the way to deal
with such horrendous events.
There's a reason for their silence and cover-up and here it is:
They've been silent
because all six disasters discussed above haven't happened yet and are
still future! I decided to use my writer's imagination and imagined I
was living in the last part of the book of Revelation and, as a
survivor, was looking back
at colossal events I had just somehow survived!
Yes, the same climate
events are real and really ahead of us - and climate activists should
focus on that future time which could be just around the corner. During
that relatively short period of time, at least one-half of the world's
population will
die, as predicted in that same book!
One final thought: if any person wants to be a personal friend with
the Author of that awesome book (a rewarding connection that millions
have discovered is absolutely free and easy to make), the same person's
own end will never be a never-ending dark
night!
For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbour as yourself.” But if you bite and devour one another, watch out that you are not consumed by one another. (Galatians 5:14-15)
Many Christians have different views and come into conflict over various aspects of eschatology, and of course, theology in general. At the end of the day, knowledge of spiritual realities may belie our true spiritual condition. In truth character is the defining factor that reveals spirituality. If we teat others disrespectfully and resort to ad hominem attacks, then God says that we arenothing..
And
if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all
knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have
not love, I am nothing. (1 Corinthians 13:2)
Joel Richardson recently hit the nail on the head when he said: "We might disagree with our brothers, but we need to treat each other with respect. Who cares if you understand prophecy if you don't have the character of Christ."{1} The dictionary definition of "revile" is: "toassailwithcontemptuousoropprobriouslanguage;addressorspeakofabusively." {2}
Biblically, to "revile" is quite literally to curse someone (James 3:9-10 cf. Ecclesiastes 10:20; Exodus 22:28). It is also linked to mockery, taunting and dishonour (Psalm 74:10; 44:16), and defined as persecution against those who stand up for the truth (Matthew 5:11). This form of persecution varies from mild forms of exclusion and snubbing to extreme vilification and public humiliation. Many who challenge the ongoing apostasy in the churches are increasingly wearied by revilers. We are those who have the audacity to search the scriptures for ourselves and to ask uncomfortable questions. We try to do so in a polite and respectful manner, but generally the response is that we are quite literally cursed, treated like enemies, ignored and degraded in all sorts of ways: My brothers these things ought not to be so..but in too many cases they are so.The response of some who view themselvesas Christian "movers and shakers" is to tear anyone to pieces who question their views (Romans 12:3). They do not realise that they have slipped up in the most elementary teaching of Christ, they have forgotten that first and foremost, love defines Christianity. Love and truth are of course an inseparable combination in the Bible. (2 John 1-13)
How great a forest is set ablaze by such a small fire! And
the tongue is a fire, a world of unrighteousness. The tongue is set
among our members, staining the whole body, setting on fire the entire
course of life, and set on fire by hell.For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and sea creature, can be tamed and has been tamed by mankind, but no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison. With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse people who are made in the likeness of God. From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. Does a spring pour forth from the same opening both fresh and salt water? Can a fig tree, my brothers, bear olives, or a grapevine produce figs? Neither can a salt pond yield fresh water.(James 3:5-12)
It is interesting that God puts"revilers" in the same category as the sexually immoral, the greedy, idolaters etc. and a commandment is attached:
But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the
name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an
idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a
one. (1 Corinthians 5:11)
Beware of revilers, they do not serve Jesus Christ. A reviler is someone who speaks from the perspective ofthe world and the perspective of death:
For this is the message that you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. We
should not be like Cain, who was of the evil one and murdered his
brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own deeds were evil and
his brother’s righteous. Do not be surprised, brothers, that the world hates you. We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brothers. Whoever does not love abides in death. Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.By this we know love, that he laid down his life for us, and we ought to lay down our lives for the brothers. But
if anyone has the world’s goods and sees his brother in need, yet
closes his heart against him, how does God’s love abide in him? Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth. (1 John 3:11-18)
Joel Richardson mentions "the good old boys club". Good old boys clubs are of course not limited to one particular group, such as dispensationalists. They run rife in all kinds ofministries and denominations. They seek to exclude and discredit any individual who challenges their ideas with the scriptures. This is nothing new and we should not be surprised, we are literally sheep amongst the wolves (Matthew 10:16). Though it is very hard at times, it is good to remember that Christ suffered the same kinds of humiliation and much worse: .. a servant is not above his master. (Matthew 10:23-24)
Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account.Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you. (Matthew 5:11)
THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT:
His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us tohis own glory and excellence,by
which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so
that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having
escaped from the corruption that is in the world because of sinful
desire. For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge, and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness, and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love. For if these qualitiesare yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. For
whoever lacks these qualities is so nearsighted that he is blind,
having forgotten that he was cleansed from his former sins. Therefore, brothers,be all the more diligent to confirm your calling and election, for if you practice these qualities you will never fall. For in this way there will be richly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. (2 Peter 1:3-11)
Joel Richardson has, I believe, been
severly criticised for his minority view on an Islamic Antichrist.
Whilst this view does have its problems, we should be able to refute
it without doing the man an injury. Furthermore, it does seem more than a
little perverse that pretribulationist, annihilationist and intra-seal teachers are criticising this view. Stones and glass houses
come to mind!
Jacob Prasch's latest tirade makes me think that he must have lost the plot completely. He now denies, kind of, that he claimed to pre-date the pre-wrath scholars regarding the pre-wrath position. JP also claims, surprisingly, that the work of Robert Van Kampen and Marvin Rosenthall was not groundbreaking at all and that Samuel Tregelles pre-dated them!
* Just to clarify exactly what
JP said about his views pre-dating pre-wrath, I quote him verbatim
below. He was desperately back-pedalling in a more recent rant yesterday, during which he
denounced me as a feminist and a liar. His video of just three days ago
certainly suggests very strongly to me that he claimed to pre-date the pre-wrath position, but I shall let you be the judge:
9th August 2016: JP: "LONG
BEFORE the term 'pre-wrath' was crystallised... I and others like me..
BEFORE pre-wrath came into vogue, BEFORE the term was coined, I believed
that the rapture was between the sixth and seventh seal.. I and others
have ALWAYS believed that the rapture will not take place until the
faithful church knows who the Antichrist is .. I
believed it BEFORE pre-wrath was even termed 'pre wrath' and believed
it BEFORE those books that launched pre-wrath were written." {1}
* I defy anyone to show me that Samuel Tregelles was
anything other than classic post-tribulational. There is
no mention of the concept of a pre-wrath rapture in any of his material. A copy of his book: Hope of
Christ's Second Coming can be downloaded on the following link: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/55634.aspx
I own a copy of Robert Van Kampens book 'The Rapture Question Answered' which was published in 1997.Tregelles gets a brief mention on page 193for his part in opposing pretribulationalism, but there is no allusion to any role he supposedly played in developing the pre-wrath view. IF he played a groundbreaking part in establishing the pre-wrath view as JP contends, why isn't he mentioned in this respect by Van Kampen?
Just in case there was any doubt however, my friend Colin Ford contacted the Secretary of the Sovereign Grace Advent Testimony (SGAT), Mr Stephen A Toms, who has been secretary of the SGAT for over forty years since 1974, printing and distributing prophetic material. Mr Toms has thoroughly confirmed that Samuel Tregelles was post-tribulational.
COLIN FORD:
"Speaking of the Pre-Wrath view, Jacob Prasch says on page 19 in his 2011 book 'Shadows of the Beast'; 'This view, however, is not new but predates any other main position for the timing of the Rapture and Resurrection. There are credible arguments that it was held in the pre-Nicean church by those close in time to the apostles, and it was held by the more learned of the early Dispensationalists such as Dr Samuel Tregelles in the 19th century with no reference to the inventions of men like Scofield.'
This cannot be true-surely? Dr Tregelles was not a Dispensationalist, and also, surely he was post-tribulational? Mr Prasch gives no source material to support his statement. I would very much like to know your thoughts on Mr Prasch's claims."
REPLY
"Dear Mr Ford, I do not know Mr Prasch or his book. Dr Tregelles was not a dispensationalist in the generally accepted sense of the word. He was most certainly a post tribulationist. Yours sincerely, Stephen A Toms"
* No other scholar that I am aware of cites the gospel of John as an eschatological birth pangs motif in the peculiar sense that JP does. The context and the co-text simply do not allow for such an interpretation.
I shall repeat my argument again:
JP: "As translated by The New Testament Greek, Jesus
clearly and directly refers to the 'Beginning of Birth
pangs' as "Thelipsis" / TRIBULATION in John
16:21 .....in this same
John chapter 16 in verses 20-22, Jesus speaks of His Second Coming as
being proceeded by the Birth Pangs seen in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and
as is illustrated in the vision of the woman in travail in Revelation
chapter 12.."{2}
The context defines the meaning of thlipsis.
The PRIMARY MEANING of John 16 is the death and resurrection of
Jesus Christ and the birth of the church. The disciples would "weep
and lament" - they would be "sorrowful",
but their sorrow would turn to joy (verse 20). ....you have sorrow
now, but I will see you again, and your hearts will rejoice, and no
one will take your joy from you. (John 16:22) Jesus refers to his
post-resurrection appearances and the permanent presence of the
Paraclete, the Holy Spirit, as a result of his departure (cf. 14:17).
The disciples DID NOT experience persecution during the time
that they were weeping/lamenting/sorrowful. If THE PRIMARY MEANING
does not speak of tribulation, why should any SECONDARY MEANING? Most
translators have "anguish" (thlipsis v21) and not
tribulation or persecution. JP has twisted thlipsis
to fit his own interpretation - this is a dishonest use of the context! (2 Peter 3:16-17).
The first four seals broken in Revelation
6:1-6 correspond with the birth pains in Matthew 24:5-8. The great
tribulation corresponds with the breaking of the fifth seal
Revelation 6.
It is important to notice that the beginning of birth pains/the four
horsemen are WORLD WIDE PHENOMENA, they do not specifically apply to the tribulation of the church as JP insists.
Matthew 24: The tribulation follows the birth
pains in verses 5-8.... THEN verse 9..... In other words, JP's
insistence that tribulation is associated with the beginning of birth
pains is false. There is no disconnect between “the tribulation”
of verse 9 and “the great tribulation” of verse 21. The first word in verse 15 is THEREFORE - oún (a
conjunction: therefore, now then, accordingly so - typically
translated "therefore" which means, "By extension,
here's how the dots connect".
For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the
Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. And you will hear of wars
and rumours of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take
place, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation,
and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and
earthquakes in various places. All these are but the beginning of the
birth pains.THEN they will deliver you up to TRIBULATION and put you to
death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. And
then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another.
And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because
lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. But
the one who endures to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the
kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony
to all nations, and then the end will come. verse 15: THEREFORE (οὖν) when
you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet
Daniel...... verse 21: For then there will be GREAT TRIBULATION, such
as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and
never will be (Matthew 24:5-21). Mark 13 confirms the sequence of events in Matthew 24.
Revelation 12: The
event that triggers the tribulation is Satan's expulsion from heaven
when he is thrown down to earth (Revelation 12:7-12). The woman (Israel)
will be divinely protected after the midweek abomination of desolation
and during the subsequent reign of the Antichrist. (Revelation 12:16) AFTER THAT HAPPENS the Antichrist turns his attention towards believers:THENthe
dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the
rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and
hold to the testimony of Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea. (Revelation 12:17)
Once again, no specific "tribulation" is mentioned prior to the mid point of the 70th week.
My full refutation of JP's false eschatology can be found on the following link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/INTRA-SEAL-RAPTURE-DECEPTION-EXPOSED-devised-ebook/dp/B06X6N2JJT * Jacob
Prasch claims to be a mind reader as well! He says that I am at odds
with Moriel because they believe that leadership is male and that I want
to be a teacher and to teach men!!! I have never said or even implied
any such thing! I guess JP has to grasp at whatever straw he can, since
he cannot refute me biblically. I can assure my readers that I have no "men wearing skirts pandering to me" at all. This is an insult I believe
to Colin and Irv who regularly post comments on my blog. Actually Colin
has corrected me a few times and I am very thankful to him for his
wisdom and knowledge. Irv is also a mine of information and specialises
in eschatology in his own right. If JP were not so very dangerous, with
vulnerable Christians hanging onto his every word, I would not bother to
refute him. As it is, I consider him to be a liability regarding anything
remotely Christian,especially eschatology.
Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. (1 Corinthians 13:4-7)
For an overseer,
as God’s steward, must be above reproach. He must not be arrogant or
quick-tempered or a drunkard or violent or greedy for gain, but hospitable, a lover of good, self-controlled, upright, holy, and disciplined. He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine..... (Titus 1:7-9)
Moriel: "Our view pre dates Pre Wrath in that Jacob Prasch, like various others,
believed the rapture is between 6th & 7th seals etc. prior to the
Pre Wrath position being crystallized by the books of Marvin Rosenthal
and Robert Van Kampen..... It is nothing more than what was later called Pre Wrath that in
common with Pre Trib holds that The Holy Spirit is the Restrainer of 2
Thessalonians chapter 2, and certain other more minor differences to do
with the timing of the ministry on the Two Witnesses in Revelation
chapter 11. Intra Seal is a version of Pre Wrath and Pre Wrath has the
same primary elements as Intra Seal. The two positions are in essence
not only very similar or more accurately two variations of the same
fundamental position although the Pneumatological differences are
marked.
Moriel and Jacob Prasch reject the concept new or further doctrinal revelation (Revelation 22:18).
The scripture simply teaches an ever clearer understanding however of
what is already revealed in God's Word concerning The Last days (Daniel 12: 4), which is the very meaning off the Greek term 'Apocalypsis'."
Reading Jacob Prasch's statement dated the 5th of August above, it is quite astonishing that he should claim that his belief that the rapture takes place between the sixth and seventh seals in the book of Revelation pre-dates the pre-wrath view. Let us do a little calculation shall we? Jacob
Prasch claims that he became a Christian in February of 1972 through The Children of
God cult. After leaving The Children of God, he admits to getting caught up in
various false teachings during the following five years.{1}
That brings us to 1977.Robert Van Kampen taught and developed what is known today as the "pre-wrath" rapture during the 1970s, and Marvin Rosenthal eventually published his book The Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Church in
1990.{2}Is JP seriously expecting us to believe that he
had his eschatology all sorted out during the 1970's prior to Van Kampen and Rosenthall? There were two views of the
rapture prior the 1970's: The classic post-tribulational view, and Darby's
false pre-tribulational view which became popular after the 1830s. Dispensationalist
Robert Gundry also modified the post-trib position to take account of the 7th seal. I am not aware of anyone preaching a rapture in between the 6th and 7th seal of Revelation pre-dating Gundry, Van Kampen and Rosenthall, and yet JP says that he and some mysterious "others" believed this view. It does not add up does it? Perhaps this is JP's nod to his Irish descent since it is clearly a bit of Irish blarney! I do not like to call anyone an outright liar, but I do not know what else to call this piece of fiction!
I will not repeat the various questions put to Moriel. Theyare
a conglomeration of dislocated statements which most people would find
quite frustrating to read unless they had a particular interest. It has
been suggested to me by more than one person that the whole article was "engineered" in order to generate confusion. The link to the article is at the top of this post for my readers to access the various questions if they so wish.
But you, Daniel, shut up the words and seal the book, until the time of
the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase. (Daniel 12:4) Apocalypsismeans unveiling or revelation.The Book of Revelation i.e.The Apocalypse of John compliments and unseals Daniel, but further than that we must not go! (Revelation 22:18). Whatever "understanding" we may gain about the last days should always find support
from the scriptures, and JP's "intra-seal" theory does not pass that test (1 John 4:1). We can gain confidence and "understanding" in
that the Book of Daniel has been fulfilled up to this point in time
historically e.g. Daniel's vision of the four beasts/four world empires, the coming of the Medo-Persian, Greek, and Roman empires, Alexander the Great, Antiochus Epiphanes etc.
As much as JP professes that pre-wrath and intra-seal are very similar, indeed they are not!
Basically JP has taken the ground-breaking research done by the original pre-wrath
scholars and has corrupted it!!!
Problematically, JP's intra-seal rapture theory differs from pre-wrath in that it identifies the Holy Spirit as the Restrainer of 2 Thessalonians 2:7 and it demolishes grace for the entirety of the 70th week of Daniel. This highly questionable assertion about the identity of the Restrainer was the original idea of John Nelson Darby, a man, who, in my view, was demonically
inspired. In fact, JP has quite a lot in common with Darby - in particular JP's massive ego and his penchant for distorting the scriptures and inventing false doctrines. In Darby's case it was dispensationalism and pretribulationism. In JP's case it is "the reversal of Pentecost" and "the end of grace" during the 70th week of Daniel. Darby's aggressive cultish behaviour towards his detractors is legendary. Likewise, JP is well known for making demeaning statements and verbally bulling anyone in disagreement with his specific and particular "doctrines". There is nothing original about the work of either of these men when we examine their theology. Darby clandestinely stole his ideas from the Irvingites, whereas JP has stolen his ideas from the pre-wrath scholars and has corrupted their work. This is no small matter.. when JP talks about grace coming to an end during the 70th week of Daniel, he effectively changes the whole dynamic of the gospel. JP's defective exegesis demolishes grace and suppresses
the gospel during the final seven years of history. I doubt very much whether the pre-wrath camp would view this as a minor difference!
The intra-seal view goes beyond what is written(1 Corinthians 4:6). As I have pointed out in a previous post, if we are in our right senses and have not been browbeaten by JP, we should consider the
identity of
the Restrainer as secondary. If it were
primary, then I believe that it would be included in the scriptures! JP teaches this secondary question emphatically and prophetically as of primary importance, with phrases like "pay attention". Doesn't this contradict the statement: "Moriel and Jacob Prasch reject the concept (of) new or further doctrinal revelation"?
JP's "intra-seal" theory has more holes than a second hand dart board. I have published a lengthy post going through all of the problems it throws up on the link below {3}. I will very briefly point out a few of these problems here.
*JP's use of the metaphor "the night" in the gospel of John is taken completely out of context.
We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day; night is coming, when no one can work. (John 9:4; 12:35 cf. John 8:12)
In John chapter 9, Jesus heals a man born blind. When he uses the metaphor of "the night", and the phrase "no man can work", Jesus refers to his death. The term "day"
above refers to the life and ministry of Jesus Christ, night is coming,
meaning in this context his arrest and execution. Jesus referred to
Himself as the light of the world (John 9:4). Jesus predicts his death: The light is among you for a little while longer. Walk while you have the light (John 12:35).
The
night isalso indicative of the last half of the 70th
week (1 Thessalonians 5:2; Matthew 25:6; Luke 17:34), but without a
primary meaning in John 9, we cannot apply the
isolated phrase"no man can work" to the 70th week of Daniel exegetically. JP has spiritualised this phrase out of context since it cannot be established that 'the night' in John 9 refers to the tribulation from the peshet point of view.
* JP: "As translated by The New Testament Greek, Jesus
clearly and directly refers to the 'Beginning of Birth
pangs' as "Thelipsis" / TRIBULATION in John
16:21 .....in this same
John chapter 16 in verses 20-22, Jesus speaks of His Second Coming as
being proceeded by the Birth Pangs seen in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and
as is illustrated in the vision of the woman in travail in Revelation
chapter 12." {2}
Thlipsis in John 16:21 does not refer
to persecution/tribulation at all, rather it refers to the disciples
sorrow after Jesus' execution.{2} The scriptures themselves DO NOT refer to the entirety of the 70th week as tribulation as JP claims. It is
important to notice that the beginning of birth pains/the four
horsemen are WORLD WIDE PHENOMENA, they do not apply
specifically to the tribulation of the church and they are not connected
to the removal of the Restrainer. The text below clearly indicates that tribulation follows the first 3.5 years of world wide phenomena i.e. the beginning of birth pains:
And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray.For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray.And you will hear of wars and rumours of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet.For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places.All these are but the beginning of the birth pains.THENthey will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death..... (Matthew 24:4-8; cf. Mark 13:3-13; Revelation 12).
* The two witnesses of Revelation 11:1-14 die and are resurrected during the second woe i.e. after the sixth trumpet is blown (Revelation 11:14). This
demonstrates that they will prophesy for 1,260 days during the second half of the 70th
week of Daniel. Their death occurs just before the
seventh trumpet is blown i.e. just prior to the Day of the Lord when the
bowls of God's wrath will be released. JP's view agrees with the pretribulational position that the two
witnesses will minister during the first half of the 70th week.
For if someone comes and proclaims
another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different
spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel
from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. (2 Corinthians 11:14)
In the very next verse the Apostle Paul says: ...I consider that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles (2 Corinthians 11:15). The tactics of JP as some kind of superior guru who will not be questioned is alarming, as is his habit of vilifying those who would take him to task. We should not assume that just because JP has been effective in exposing "charismania" that he has all the answers. The same scrutinization applies to JP just as much as any other teacher (1 John 4:1 cf. Acts 17:11).
And
this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole
world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. (Matthew 24:14)
UPDATE 12TH AUGUST 2016
Just to clarify exactly what
JP said about his views pre-dating pre-wrath, I quote him verbatim
below. He is now furiously back-pedalling in a further rabid tirade in which he denounces me as a feminist and a liar. His claims of just three days ago certainly suggest very strongly to me that his views on the rapture pre-dated the pre-wrath position, but I shall let you be the judge.
9th August 2016: JP: "LONG
BEFORE the term 'pre-wrath' was crystallized... I and others like me..
BEFORE pre-wrath came into vogue, BEFORE the term was coined, I believed
that the rapture was between the sixth and seventh seal.. I and others
have ALWAYS believed that the rapture will not take place until the
faithful church knows who the Antichrist is .. I
believed it BEFORE pre-wrath was even termed 'pre wrath' and believed
it BEFORE those books that launched pre-wrath were written." {4}
Do
you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet
do them yourself—that you will escape the judgement of God? Or
do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and
patience, not knowing that God’s kindness is meant to lead you to
repentance? But
because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for
yourself on the day of wrath when God’s righteous judgement will be
revealed. (Romans 2:3-5)
Is it credible to believe that the Lord has been waiting for two thousand years or so to reveal the intra-seal rapture and the identity of the Restrainer to Jacob Prasch? This emphatic teaching that JP insists we should "pay attention to"has profound implications for our understanding about grace during the 70th week of Daniel. JP's identification of the Holy Spirit as the Restrainer and His supposed departure from the world during the 70th week of Daniel is a teaching which effectively demolishes grace and suppresses the gospel during the final seven years of history. As such it is no small matter! If we are in our right senses, we should consider the identity of
the Restrainer a secondary question. If it were
primary, then I believe the Lord would have
ensured that it was included in the scriptures! Jacob Prasch has some very different ideas however! As it is, the gospel is called an everlasting gospel which will be proclaimed until the end of the age. (Revelation 14:6; Matthew 24:14) Believers are instructed to preach the gospel in season and out of season (2 Timothy 4:2). During the great tribulation Jesus Christ himself tells us that this is our opportunity to bear witness: ".....for I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which none of your adversaries will be able to withstand or contradict." (Luke 21:15).
And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole
world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. (Matthew 24:14)
JP's teaching on the Restrainer in 2 Thessalonians is the most convoluted teaching I have ever heard. I have found it difficult to establish which part of the 70th week of Daniel he refers to when he frequently talks about "this period", but I have finally established that he refers to the entirety of the 70th week as the period when grace supposedly comes to an end, the Holy Spirit is taken fromthe worldand believers will no longer be able to preach the gospel. The scriptures he quotes to support his arguments fall down under exegetical investigation and are very puzzling indeed. JP seems to "forget" his golden rule that the 'pesher' (spiritual interpretation) depends on the 'peshet'
(literal interpretation) in his midrashic hermeneutic. He also seems to "forget" his frequent admonition: "A text out of context and isolation from its co-text is always a pretext."
I have quoted JP verbatim below: JP: "Pentecost is reversed... the same as Jesus went and sent the
Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit goes and sends Jesus. In that interim
period you have a powerless church that cannot fulfil its mission any
more.'work while you have the light; night comes - no man can work.'
Does this mean the Holy Spirit is taken from us as individuals? No! What
happened in John 20 is forever 'I will never leave you or forsake you.'
.....but what happened at Pentecost is over. There is no longer
conviction of sin, no more grace, now he is getting ready to be the God
of wrath again. Pentecost is reversed..... That period of powerless in
the interim is 'the shattering of the power of the Holy people.' This is
where the pre-wrath people get it wrong..... There is a difference
between the Holy Spirit indwelling and the Holy Spirit outpoured.{1}
JP's use of the metaphor "the night" in the gospel of John is taken completely out of context.
We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day; night is coming, when no one can work. (John 9:4; 12:35 cf. John 8:12)
In John chapter 9, Jesus heals a man born blind. When he uses the metaphor of "the night", and the phrase "no man can work", Jesus refers to his death. The term "day"
above refers to the life and ministry of Jesus Christ, night is coming,
meaning in this context his arrest and execution. Jesus referred to
Himself as the light of the world (John 9:4). Jesus predicts his death: The light is among you for a little while longer. Walk while you have the light (John 12:35).
The
night isalso indicative of the last half of the 70th week (1 Thessalonians 5:2; Matthew 25:6; Luke 17:34), but without a primary meaning in John 9, we cannot apply the
isolated phrase"no man can work" to the 70th week of Daniel exegetically. JP has spiritualised this phrase out of context since it cannot be established that 'the night' in John 9 refers to the tribulation from the peshet point of view.
Further instances where JP does the exactly same thing:
*JP: "As translated by The New Testament Greek, Jesus
clearly and directly refers to the 'Beginning of Birth
pangs' as "Thelipsis" / TRIBULATION in John
16:21 .....in this same
John chapter 16 in verses 20-22, Jesus speaks of His Second Coming as
being proceeded by the Birth Pangs seen in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and
as is illustrated in the vision of the woman in travail in Revelation
chapter 12." {2}
I have demonstrated in my previous postthat thlipsis in John 16:21 does not refer to persecution/tribulation at all, rather it refers to the disciples sorrow after Jesus' execution.{2} The scriptures themselves DO NOT refer to the entirety of the 70th week as tribulation as JP claims. It is
important to notice that the beginning of birth pains/the four
horsemen are WORLD WIDE PHENOMENA, they do not apply
specifically to the tribulation of the church and they are not connected
to the removal of the Restrainer. The text below clearly indicates that tribulation follows the first 3.5 years of world wide phenomena i.e. the beginning of birth pains:
And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray.For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray.And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet.For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places.All these are but the beginning of the birth pains.THEN they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death..... (Matthew 24:4-8; cf. Mark 13:3-13; Revelation 12).
*JP applies the phrase: "the shattering of the power of the holy people" to the persecuted church during the great tribulation (Daniel 12:7). This is yet another peculiar view of JP in contradiction to the traditional view that it refers to the Jewish people.{2}
*TheAge of Grace is referred to by dispensationalists as the Dispensation of Grace or the Church Age. TheChurch Age began at Pentecost and ushered inthe fullness of the Gentilesuntil the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. The completion of the times of the Gentiles will occur at the end of the age when the full inclusion of the Jews takes place and they are"grafted into their own
olive tree" (Romans 11:1-36). In other words, grace does not end until the completion of the 70th week of Daniel.
They will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive among all
nations, and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles, until
the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. (Luke 21:24 cf Revelation 11:2)
Alan Kurschner: "Revelation 11:2
indicates that the end of Jerusalem’s trampling by Gentiles culminates
with the end of the second half of Daniel’s Seventieth Week.(10)..... John writes in Revelation 11:2, 'Leave out the court which is outside the temple and do not measure it,
for it has been given to the nations; and they will tread [trample]
under foot the holy city for forty-two months.' The grammatical and
theological parallels between this verse and Luke 21:24 establish a clear termination point for the 'times of the Gentiles.' Not surprisingly, it is exactly as Daniel 9:24 indicated." {3}
Ironically, JP mercilessly attacks and reviles others for their faulty eschatology and false teaching. However, I would suggest that his own "errors" are perhaps just as dangerous, if not more so. We should consider with some trepidation the ramifications of
identifying the Holy Spirit as the Restrainer. Doesn't JP misrepresent
God Himself since the Holy Spirit is omnipresent? (Psalm 139:7). Doesn't JP also misrepresent the critical seven year period at the end of time when there will be widespread delusion (2 Thessalonians 2:11)? The warning from Jesus Christ is: Let no one deceive you in any way. (2 Thessalonians 2:3). If JP's distortions were due to stupidity then perhaps he would have more of an excuse. As it is, I cannot account for such distortions of the scriptures other than to conclude that they are a deliberate attempt to mislead the Body of Christ during the 70th week of Daniel. Beware of this hypocrite he is very dangerous!
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! (Isaiah 5:20).
Essentially the Intra-Seal theory, devised and peddled by Jacob Prasch, is a systematic denial of the gospel and the ministry of the Holy Spirit for the entirety of the 70th week of Daniel! As such, it should be viewed as a very serious false teaching.
I shall quote JP verbatim in order to avoid the possibility of being accused of quoting him out of context:
"Pentecost is reversed... the same as Jesus went and sent the
Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit goes and sends Jesus. In that interim
period you have a powerless church that cannot fulfil its mission any
more. 'work while you have the light; night comes - no man can work.'
Does this mean the Holy Spirit is taken from us as individuals? No! What
happened in John 20 is forever 'I will never leave you or forsake you.'
.....but what happened at Pentecost is over. There is no longer
conviction of sin, no more grace, now he is getting ready to be the God
of wrath again. Pentecost is reversed..... That period of powerless in
the interim is 'the shattering of the power of the Holy people.'"{1}
"There
will be a very difficult period called 'the shattering of the power of
the holy people'. The church will have become so worldly and so
corrupted, persecution becomes a necessary evil to sort out the faithful
bride from the harlot church..... this will be the last chance for the
bride to get ready... Don't confuse 'why are we here' with 'why is the
church here'; the church will be finished, it will face disolution; the
church will not be here, just the faithful people who are in it will be
here waiting to be rescued. God will leave them here for purposes of
preparing them for the coming of Jesus"{2}
As far as I am aware, all other commentators believe "the shattering the power of the holy people" refers not to the church, but to the Jewish people. The only exception is Chris White, who believes that the 3.5 years is based
on the exhausting of the power of the Antichrist, not the power of the
people he “shatters" (see below).Here we have yet another isolated interpretation from JP which finds no biblical support and no agreement either historically or with modern scholarship!
I heard the man dressed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, as he raised his right hand and his left toward heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever that it would be for a time, times, and half a time; and as soon as they finish shattering the power of the holy people, all these events will be completed. (Daniel 12:7)
Daniel 12:7 corresponds to Revelation 10:5-7 below. As well as alluding
to the persecution of Antiochus and the destruction of Jerusalem in
70AD, the shattering of the power of the holy people concerns the time of Jacob's
trouble. Daniel 12:1 confirms this and also identifies Michael as
contending against Satan: At that time shall arise Michael, the great
prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of
trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time.
But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name
shall be found written in the book. (Daniel 12:1).
And the angel whom I saw standing on the sea and on the land raised his right hand to heaven and
swore by him who lives forever and ever, who created heaven and what is
in it, the earth and what is in it, and the sea and what is in it, that
there would be no more delay, but
that in the days of the trumpet call to be sounded by the seventh
angel, the mystery of God would be fulfilled, just as he announced to
his servantsthe prophets. (Revelation 10:5-7)
And I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the
stream; he raised his right hand and his left hand toward heaven and
swore by him who lives forever that it would be for a time, times, and
half a time, and that when the shattering of the power of the holy
people comes to an end all these things would be finished. (Daniel 12:7)
The problem lies in identifying "the holy people". In context, this phrase refers to Daniel's people i.e. Israel, the Jewish people: "your people" (Daniel 12:1) "your people and your holy city."
(Daniel 9:24). Daniel 12:1 marks the beginning of the "time of Jacob's trouble" with the abomination of desolation. (Matthew 24:15-22; Jeremiah 30:4-7). Unbelieving Israel will be shattered by the Antichrist
and his anti-Semitic forces during the great tribulation. (Matthew 24:21
cf. Daniel 11:31). The question is, can we apply this verse to the faithful church? In the second part of the prophecy
contained in the Olivet discourse. (Matthew 24:15-22), Jesus refers to
Daniel and confines himself almost entirely to the fate of Jerusalem.
The coming prince who will destroy Jerusalem and the Temple—the one who
will make the Jewish nation desolate. (Daniel 9:26-27). The last half of
Daniel’s seventieth week ends with the shattering of the Jewish nation
(cf. Daniel 12:7). Certainly the church will experience terrible
persecution during the great tribulation and the horn (Antichrist) will
prevail over it. (Daniel 7:21, 25; Revelation 13:7). However, Israel does
have to be distinguished from the church since it seems the purpose of
their "shattering" is for their ultimate salvation (Jeremiah
30:7), whereas the faithful church will be persecuted, not to bring them
to faith, but due to their already existing faith. If "the shattering" refers to the church, persecution is never linked to diminished
activity of the Holy Spirit in the scriptures, rather persecution is the
result of the activity of the Holy Spirit and the preaching of the
gospel. (2 Timothy 1:8; 2:9).
Below are some commentary notes
from Stephen R. Miller which shows the traditional view i.e. that Daniel 12:7 refers to the Jews: “During these three
and one-half years,“the power of the holy people” will be “finally
[probably better, “completely”] broken [or “shattered”].” The “holy
people” in this context is a specific reference to Israel; therefore
their “power” being “broken” signifies that the nation will be utterly
defeated by their enemies. That the Jewish state will be attacked by
many nations and crushed by them is taught elsewhere in Scripture (e.g.,
Zech 12–14). A breakdown in Israel's resistance to God (and his
Messiah) may also be implied here. When in desperate straits, the Jewish
people will cry out to God for help, repent of their sins, and receive
Jesus as their Messiah (cf. Zech 12:10–14). At that time the Lord will
return to rule the earth, and the tribulation will end (“all these
things will be completed”). Zechariah describes Israel's deliverance
(cf. 14:3–11).”{3} Chris White's commentary on the
Book of Daniel:
"When
the power of the holy people has been completely shattered, all these
things shall be finished. Many Bible versions give the impression that
the finishing of all these things is contingent on the power of the holy
people being completely shattered, but this conclusion would be wrong.
The NET Bible renders the phrase this way: 'It is for a time, times, and
half a time. Then, when the power of the one who shatters the holy
people has been exhausted, all these things will be finished.'
This
seems to reverse the meaning. It is saying that the 3.5 years is based
on the exhausting of the power of the Antichrist, not the power of the
people he 'shatters.' While the NET makes this case based on a
linguistic argument,[54] it also enjoys some scriptural support. And he
[Antichrist] was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies,
and he was given authority [power] to continue for forty-two months. -
Rev 13: 5 Here we are told that the Antichrist is given “authority”
for 42 months or 3.5 years. We can see that the 3.5 years will come to a
conclusion, not because of anything that the people or the Antichrist
do, but rather because that is the time allotted to him by God. When
that authority is exhausted, God will finish him. So that is the meaning
of the phrase 'when the power of the one who shatters the holy people
has been exhausted, all these things will be finished.'"{4}
David C. Grabbe:
If the church's power—Jesus Christ, living in us by His Spirit—were ever "completely shattered," the gates of the grave would
prevail against the church, and God's purpose would fail! But we know
that cannot be so. Even though it is prophesied that the
"holy"—set-apart—peoples of Israel will fall, and even though the
church of God may not always have an open door to preach the gospel
powerfully to the world—depending on what God is doing at any point in
time—we can have every confidence that the power of the New Covenant
church will never be shattered—for that power is God Himself!
In general, the book of Daniel contains prophecies of world-ruling empires that are mentioned only as they encounter Israel. The "holy people" of Daniel 12:7
could just as easily represent the nations of Israel, and the fact that
their "power" can be shattered strongly implies that God's power is not
under discussion. Defining the power of God's church as "shatterable"
reveals a humanist bent, as it assigns importance based on corruptible
human action rather than the will and outworking of the unassailable
Head of the church. In fact, such an inclination on our part may have
been part of the cause of the church's scattering in the first place! {5}
Here we have yet another red flag going up concerning Jacob Prasch's skewed eschatological interpretations.I
wonder how many more red flags we need in order to disregard JP as a
valid voice on this subject? As I have said before, it is vital that the
church has an accurate view about the 70th week of Daniel and is not deceived. We need to
reject these unhinged ramblings based on human interpretation.
(Matthew 15:9).
We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ..... (2 Corinthians 10:5)
As before, I shall quote Jacob Prasch verbatim in order to avoid any accusation of quoting him out of context.
"Women must have their head covered.... Can God use women without their head covered? No - things are going to go wrong. The serpent beguiled the woman and the serpent still beguiles the woman." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP6x2hhAzEI
Things are not quite as clear-cut as Jacob Prasch would have us believe. An unbalanced and distorted view of the scriptures is always very dangerous, as I am sure he well knows. Pat Roberts aptly points out: "Too many heads, too many coverings, the murky teachings of Jacob Prasch."1
Was Deborah's head "covered" by Barak?
The Canaanites were defeated under the prophetic leadership of
Deborah and the military leadership of Barak.. but make no mistake about
it, Deborah was calling the shots. Deborahsummoned Barak, the son of Abinoam, from his home at Kedesh in Naphtali, and ordered him, in the name of Yahweh, to take ten thousand men to Mount Tabor. He agreed, on condition that Deborah accompanied him (Judges 4:4-10).
Deborah was judging Israel in her own right without any reference to a man.. the people of Israel came up to her for judgement (Judges 4:4-5). Barak was the next judge of Israel after Deborah, and he preceded Gideon. The scriptures make very clear that Barak wouldnot get the honour for the victory over the Canaanites led by Sisera: ..the honor will not be yours, for the LORD will deliver Sisera into the hands of a woman." (Judges 4:9).In fact, the honour did not go to Deborah either; it went to Jael (Judges 5:24).
A few examples of judges, prophets, and kings are given in Hebrews 11:32, Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, of David and Samuel and the prophets—but we should not read too much into this. Barak indeed achieved the military victory over the Canaanites, but this was before he actually became judge, and it was under the prophetic ministry of Deborah. However unpalatable Prasch finds it, Deborah was acting directly under God without a human male "covering". Technically, Deborah's "head" should have been her husband and not Barak. It is very interesting that Deborah's role as a "prophetess"took precedence over her role as a wife and took no account of male headship.
Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth, was judging Israel at that time. (Judges 4:4)
Deborah may have been an exception to the rule, but nevertheless, there she is, as large as life, acting without a male "covering". How very inconvenient for the misogynists.
Examples of "prophetess" as an identifier ahead of familial connections:
Isaiah referred to his wife as "the prophetess": And I went to the prophetess, and she conceived and bore a son. Then the LORD said to me, “Call his name Maher-shalal-hash-baz; (Isaiah 8:3)
So Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam, and Achbor, and Shaphan, and Asaiah went to Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvah, son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe (now she lived in Jerusalem in the Second Quarter), and they talked with her. And she said to them, “Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel: ‘Tell the man who sent you to me, Thus says the Lord, Behold, I will bring disaster upon this place and upon its inhabitants, all the words of the book that the king of Judah has read.....'" (2 Kings 22:14-20 cf. 2 Chronicles 34:22).
Then Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a tambourine in her hand, and all the women went out after her with tambourines and dancing. (Exodus 15:20).
And there was a prophetess, Anna, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher.. And coming up at that very hour she began to give thanks to God and to speak of him to all who were waiting for the redemption of Jerusalem. (Luke 2:36).
Biblically, it appears that spiritual authority is closely linked with
hearing from God and being commissioned by Him for ministry and service.
Deborah is a clear example of this. In the above examples, the woman's role as "prophetess" took precedence over male familial relationships. This, of course, contradicts Prasch's insistence that every woman needs a Mordecai and be subject to various male family members or church elders.2 In my experience, male elders attempt to crush such a gift rather than giving their support, Prasch being a case in point.
The Bible contains several accounts where God bypassed husbands and
male guardians and spoke to women directly with messages of vital
significance.
Further Examples
Samson's mother: The Angel of the Lord entrusted God’s plan for Israel’s deliverance to a woman (Judges 13:1-24)
The Wise Woman of Abel Beth Maacah: The woman was
clearly a person of influence, possibly even the leader of the fortified
town of Abel Beth Maacah in Israel. As a civil leader in Israel, this
women, like Deborah, would also have had a degree of spiritual
authority. Through her wise use of authority and peaceful persuasion, she
rescued her town from being destroyed by Joab, the commander of King
David’s army. (2 Samuel 20:14 ff esp v22).3
If God so wishes, He can speak through a donkey! (Numbers 22:28-30)
Even the apostles rejected the message of Mary Magdalene and the women who had seen Jesus after he had risen from the dead. This perhaps demonstrates the male trait of dishonoring women and denying them a voice.
She (Mary Magdalene) went and told those who had been with him, as they mourned and wept. But when they heard that he was alive and had been seen by her, they would not believe it. (Mark 16:10-11)
Now it was Mary Magdalene and Joanna and Mary the mother of James and the other women with them who told these things to the apostles, but these words seemed to them an idle tale, and they did not believe them. (Luke 24:10-11)
I am not suggesting that we swing to the other end of the spectrum and give women authority over men. What I do say is that scripturally, women should not be denied a voice under the pretext that they are "easily deceived". Prasch's rhetoric about women having long antennae and men having short antennae is nonsense. Paul addressed the entire Corinthian congregation when he said: But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. (2 Corinthians 11:3).I am not suggesting either that an individual man or woman should speak authoritatively as "the voice of God" without safeguards: Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. (1 Corinthians 14:29).
Some questions on this subject were put to Jacob Prasch in a very respectful way by Pat Rogers some weeks ago. Prasch has refused to answer her questions point-blank, and he refuses to even enter into a discussion! He dismisses her questions as "feminism coming into the church". Some red flags should be going up here, ladies! Mike Rogers has a blog called Closingstages, where all this is recorded in detail.2 Pat Rogers goes into the technicalities of "covering" and "headship" and asks some very pertinent questions, for instance:
".....Jacob pointed out women can prophesy, again the question remains; who are they prophesying to?"4
Two issues here have been obscured by Prasch.. the“head”and the“covering”. These are
addressed in two separate passages of scripture:
For the husband is the
head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body,
and is himself its Saviour. (Ephesians 5:23). Ephesians 5 speaks
specifically about the relationship between wives and husbands; it
does not address practices within the congregation.
1 Corinthians 11:3
reiterates the husband and wife relationship: ..the head of every man is Christ, the head of a
wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. Paul then goes on to address the cultural issue of literal head coverings at Corinth (1 Corinthians 11:1-16). Prasch has distorted and merged the two meanings of head and covering and has tacked on the fallacy thatall women need a "covering", if not a husband, then a father or the male leadership of the church. This is very reminiscent of the Shepherding error, and it is unscriptural.
In an older teaching below, Prasch speaks about 1 Corinthians 11 being a local cultural issue Paul was addressing: "Paul wanting silence from women in the congregation. There was a local cultural issue in the churches... around Corinth at that time because the people were bringing the influences of the pagan world with them from the Delphic Oracle into the church.....We see there are prophetesses, we see there were places where women did prophesy. We see the daughters of Philip were prophetesses. Obviously, they spoke in the congregation...."
Judges 4 demonstrates that occasionally, women were legitimately called to take on a role that appears to be outside God's stated patriarchal order. When that occurred, it was usually a serious indictment against weak men! (Judges 4:8).
Caveat - In 1 Timothy 2, Paul refers to male leadership within the church and refers back to the creation narrative.. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. (1 Timothy 2:13-14 cf. Genesis 2:7). In the New Testament, a plurality of male eldership within individual congregations is clearly God's will. I am no supporter of women pastors/elders, and in my view, egalitarian churches are going specifically against God's revealed will. However, that is not to deny that women can have pivotal roles within the body of Christ.
As M'Kayla Kelly aptly points out: ".....don’t insist we wear the spiritual burqa, as I for one, will not. There is too much at stake."5
I have recently published a full exposé of Prasch's Intra-Seal rapture invention. Intra-Seal is Prasch's systematic denial of the gospel and the ministry of the Holy Spirit during the 70th week of Daniel no less!6 Beware of Jacob Prasch; in a number of critical instances, his teachings are demonstrably a serious perversion of the scriptures.
