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Saturday 17 September 2016

jacob prasch moriel ministries: more intra-seal lies!

Jacob Prasch continues to peddle his ill conceived intra-seal "doctrine" with gusto and has recently manufactured some further blatantly untruthful statements:

Jacob Prasch "Who is The Restrainer" Sept 10, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q61kIzMkRqI 

Prasch: "The term katechó (restrainer) is never applied or used in any context with Michael. neither in the Septuagint, the book of Daniel, nor the book of Revelation, he is never called the restrainer, never."

Actually katechó does fit the book of Daniel and Revelation in context with the archangel Michael. It is worth noting that Michael contends (Hebrew mit·chaz·zek root word chazaq) against the Prince of Persia (Daniel 10:21 cf. Jude 1:9). The short definition of the Hebrew word chazaq is strong.{1}  According to Strongs Hebrew and Greek Dictionary, chazaq has a number of words in English to describe its meaning, including restrain.{2} This is a very important point because this is yet another example where we have to question the integrity of Prasch's exegesis. Prasch tells us that he is a Hebrew expert; as such he would know the meaning of chazaq exactly!

Restrain: prevent (someone or something) from doing something; keep under control or within limits.{3} 

Yet there is no one who stands firmly with me against these forces except Michael your prince. (Daniel 10:21) Michael stands guard (ä·mad'). The Septuagint has "holds with me".{4} This phrase "holds with me" fits perfectly with restrain since katechó means:  I hold fast, bind, arrest, (b) I take possession of, lay hold of, (c) I hold back, detain, restrain, (d) I hold a ship, keep its head.{5}

The Hebrew ä·mad' has a number of different meanings: to stand, remain, endure, take one's stand.

Without going into any further detailed explanations, there is indisputable evidence that Michael does in fact directly restrain Satan in the book of Daniel, in the book of Revelation (future -when he ceases to restrain), and indeed in the Septuagint! We should be asking ourselves the question: Why does Prasch make such a dishonest statement when the exact reverse of what he says can easily be demonstrated? 

Prasch: "Far from preventing Satan from coming to earth and indwelling the person of Antichrist, Michael kicks Satan out at a celestial battle in heaven. Instead of preventing him from coming, he causes him to come. There is a logical and textual inconsistency in what they (the pre-wrath teachers) are saying...."

Prasch is referring to Revelation 12:

Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back, but he was defeated, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death. Therefore, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short!” (Revelation 12:7-12) 

Obviously there will come a future point when he who restrains will cease to restrain. This is precisely what Revelation 12:7-12 refers to as I am sure Prasch knows very well! Paul referred to the same event when he wrote: he who restrains will come out of the midst (γένηται μέσου 2 Thessalonians 2:7). When this happens, the lawless one will be revealed because he who restrains no longer directly contends/makes war/restrains him. I cannot accuse Prasch of being stupid, so I suggest that this is a deliberate attempt to mislead his hearers! Prasch fails to elaborate on the timing of this event.. in fact the mid point of the 70th week of Daniel. After Satan is expelled from heaven and thrown down to the earth, the time is short - there are only 3.5 years (cut short) for Satan to wreak havoc on the earth through the two beasts, the Antichrist and the False Prophet. Jesus indicated that following the abomination that causes desolation at the mid point of the week: there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be (Matthew 24:21). Daniel indicated that just prior to this same period of distress that Michael shall ä·mad' (Daniel 12:1). There is no logical or textual inconsistency here at all!  Prasch's statement is a blatant inversion of the text and is an outright lie.  

Prasch: "They don't understand the Spirit indwelling and the Spirit outpoured: {6}

The Bible says the precise opposite to Prasch:

In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people; your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. (Acts 2:17 cf. Joel 2:28)

And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. (Matthew 24:14)

An upsurge of evil takes place in the last days 2 Timothy 3:1-5; 2 Peter 3:3; Jude 1:17-18.

The term “the last days” - refers to the period between the coming of Messiah in the year 29 CE when he began to speak to the Jews, to the time of the end i.e. the return (parousia) of Jesus Christ (Revelation 16:17). The Bible tells us very clearly that the Spirit is outpoured during "the last days" until the end of the age.


The fact that Prasch has made a nonessential into an essential doctrine should be a huge red flag. He continues to peddle his ill conceived doctrine despite all the scriptural evidence to the contrary, and then he has the impudence to tell everyone where the pre-wrath teachers have "got it right" and where they have "got it wrong". He doesn't speak in terms of "I think", "I believe" or "in my view".. Prasch "knows".. and he.."is sure" that the pre-wrath teachers are incorrect about the identity of the Restrainer in 2 Thessalonians 2:5-7. This knowall trait of Prasch is blatantly unbiblical (2 Timothy 3:2). Prasch puts himself above some heavy weight Christian scholars in a case where there is no objective proof. There are instances where we can know certain things authoritatively from the scriptures, but the identity of the Restrainer is not one of those instances! A frequent argument of Prasch is that he knows because he "understands" these things better than others due to the illumination of the Holy Spirit. However, somewhat worryingly, Prasch appears to be the only person on the planet who does understand!

According to Prasch, the pre-wrath teachers are generally "cessationist", whereas he is a continuationist. We should be very careful about labelling and dismissing the views other Christians based on subjective biases. Christians who are "cessationist" do actually believe in the illumination of the Holy Spirit where the scriptures are concerned. I am a continuationist myself, but I have to admit that many who boast that they have the illumination of the Holy Spirit are demonstrably not to be trusted (1 John 4:1). Furthermore, where the fruit of the Spirit is not evident in a person's life i.e. love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, (Galatians 5:22) then those who claim superior revelation cannot logically claim the illumination of the Holy Spirit (cf. 1 Corinthians 13:1-13).

CF Hogg and WE Vine  

Despite being pretribulationists, CF Hogg and WE Vine (co-writers of Vine's Expository Commentary) rejected the standard pre-trib view that the Holy Spirit is the Restrainer. Their exegesis of the Epistles to the Thessalonians is exceptional, and I dare say, had they been around today, they would have changed their position to pre-wrath.

Hogg and Vine affirm that the allusions to the Restrainer are: "necessarily obsure..... it makes dogmatism on the interpretation of the passage futile and foolish. The difficulties are further enhanced by the fact, that alike in form and in matter, the passage is without parallel in the other writings of this Apostle. His own words 'we know in part and we prophesy in part,' 1 Cor. 13.9, convey a salutary warning here. They go on: "Many attempts have been made to identify this restraining power, but the conditions are such that these are little more than speculative....."  

"The restrainer is the Holy Spirit; that which restrains is the church ; the time of the taking away is the rapture..... This interpretation is without support in other parts of the N.T. Matt. 5.13 has been appealed to, "ye are the salt of the earth," but the idea expresssed in the remainer of the saying is, not that the salt shall be removed, but that it may lose its distinctive character and thus cease to hinder corruption. Neither is it elsewhere stated or implied that the Holy Spirit will leave the earth at the rapture of the saints, for after that event there will be those upon the earth who will witness for God.... in the energy of the Holy Spirit, see Joel 2:28, 29. Yet this interpretation demands not merely that the Holy Spirit change the mode of His operations but that He leave the world entirely. Moreover had the Holy Spirit and the church been in the writer's mind there does not appear to be any reason why he should not have said so plainly..... The suggestion seems to be of quite modern origin, there is apparently, no trace of it in early writings on the subject." {7} 

Hogg and Vine's words "futile and foolish" and "speculative" well describe Prasch's "doctrine", especially since it is now undeniable that his honesty bends to fit his theology.

The Elephant In The Room - Ecumenism

Prasch still has nothing to say about the very worrying question of ecumenist David Noakes whom he recognises as a prophetic voice and to whom he gives a platform. Noakes' "Thus saith the Lord prophecies" throw up some very serious concerns. I will repeat my previous question: Would a true prophet of God be ecumenical? Prasch's close association with the ecumenical "prophet" David Noakes and his accomplice, false prophet, Clifford Hill (Moggerhanger Park) is very revealing.

Prasch seems to have completely missed the major significance of the 2016 Mekudeshet Festival in Jerusalem which saw a major progression of the Counter-Reformation and the one world religion. This event saw "Christians", Jews and Muslims uniting for a “spiritual gathering” dubbed Amen—A House of Prayer For All Believers.{8}  

From Conflict to Communion.. This is Phase V of the Satanically inspired agreement between The  Lutheran World Federation (LWF) and the Roman Catholic Church. "From Conflict to Communion: Lutheran-Catholic Common Commemoration of the Reformation in 2017 -  Published by the Lutheran-Roman Catholic Commission on Unity in the context of the 2017 commemoration of the 500th anniversary of the Reformation, and the 50th anniversary of dialogue between Lutherans and Catholics."{9} 

These things are taking place under our noses, and yet Prasch and many of his friends do not seem to be cognizant of the breakneck speed of ecumenical developments before us all. Does it make any sense that Prasch is peddling intra-seal at such a time as this? Much less, should his friends at The Columbus Prophecy Conference and Believers in Grace Ministries support him and give him a platform to teach such an easily refuted "doctrine"?  We seem to have the same old problem of irresponsible neglect repeating itself with the Praschites, i.e. the practice of refusing to challenge the unscriptural teachings of powerful individuals for the sake of unity so-called. A timely warning from Prasch's friends before things progressed this far might have done some good (Proverbs 27:6).

Do not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses. As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of the elect angels I charge you to keep these rules without prejudging, doing nothing from partiality. (1 Timothy 5:19-21)

Although I personally believe that there is strong evidence to show that Michael is the Restrainer of 2 Thessalonians 2:7-9, this post is not about proving that argument. My problem concerns the integrity of Prasch himself as a bible teacher. I have gradually come to the realisation that Prasch is a much more dangerous proposition than I had originally supposed. What do I mean by this? I no longer believe that he is a genuine bible teacher and I now find it perfectly feasible that he could very well be batting for the other side and using diversionary tactics (intra-seal) in order to muddy the waters and confuse genuine believers (Ezekiel 34:18). Prasch's casuistry and equivocation, are, dare I say it, almost Jesuitical. I have come to the point where I would not take anything he says at face value.

My full refutation against intra-seal is constantly developing and can be found at: http://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/jacob-prasch-rapture-holy-spirit-and.html

{1} http://biblehub.com/hebrew/2388.htm
{2} http://whatischazaq.blogspot.co.uk/2006/10/what-is-chazaq-its-old-hebrew-word.html  
{3} https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/restrain
{4} http://www.ecmarsh.com/lxx/Daniel/index.htm 
{5} http://biblehub.com/greek/2722.htm
{6}http://www.believersingracevideos.com/01%20Who%20is%20the%20Restrainer.mp3
{7} Hogg CF and Vine WE, 1914: The Epistles of Paul the Apostle to the Thessalonians, pp.254-259 
{8} http://www.cogwriter.com/news/prophecy/is-2016-mekudeshet-festival-leading-to-a-one-world-religion-antipope-francis/  
{9} https://www.lutheranworld.org/lund2016 

Some further concerns about Prasch:
http://galatiansfour.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/jacob-praschs-confusion-regarding.html
http://ukapologeticslibrary.net/ecumenists-clifford-hill-david-noakes-moggerhanger-park/  
http://www.understanding-ministries.com/docs/An%20expos%20of%20shocking%20false%20teaching%20and%20unseemly%20invective.pdf 

Monday 5 November 2018

MORIEL'S LETTER TO STUDIO SCOTLAND & GLOBAL VISION24/7

The following letter from Moriel Ministries to Stuart Menelaws of Studio Scotland & Global Vision24/7 is perhaps a cautionary lesson for anyone considering challenging Jacob Prasch.

The primary lesson is that we should not give any opportunity for the enemy to make mischief among us. Although it was unedited, Global Vison24/7tv's excerpt of the Q&A video David Nathan's Right of Reply at Bill Randle's church ended prematurely, before Bill Randles objection to David Nathan's comment about the blood of Jesus during the millennium. {1} This was unfortunate, and it has resulted in further unpleasantness. As David Lister says, the video resulted in "misleading viewers from the factual reality seen on the unedited video." Moriel's subsequent video does give us a fuller picture, although that video is problematic in that it was manipulated in Prasch's favour! {2} The Moriel video has made it very difficult for those of us who, despite our reservations, have attempted to support David Nathan, believing him to be an innocent victim. Another problem is that David Nathan's old video of the "healing jacket" was in fact put up on YouTube in June of this year. Why would Bread of Life Ministries air a false teaching that was retracted by Nathan years ago? 

Nevertheless, Prasch's false intra-seal theory that he has taught as doctrine on a number of occasions is an enormous issue. Also outstanding is the question of his ecumenical association with David Noakes and Clifford Hill of Issachar Ministries. Prasch has consistently ignored these serious matters, but they bear witness to the fact that he is no better than other false teachers. I think there is a word for that somewhere! (Matthew 7:1-5). 

Both Lister and Prasch reject Nathan's false teaching that a personal word from the Lord is co-equal with the written Word of God. I am not sure that David Nathan has actually taught this, but I agree. that we test everything by the scriptures. (1 John 4:1; Acts 17:11). David Noakes' "prophecies" do present a problem in this respect however since he has the presumption to prophesy in the first person of the Lord. If a "prophet" speaks in the first person of the Lord, he is, by definition, speaking the very words of God. In this particular case, technically, Noakes' "prophecies" are supposedly co-equal with the written Word! Perhaps Prasch would like to illuminate us on this point?

LETTER FROM MORIEL TO STUDIO SCOTLAND & GV 24/7 - 29TH OCTOBER , 2018
To : Mr. Stuart Menelaws
Studio Scotland
Fife, Scotland, UK
Dear Sir
I am writing in my capacity as International Administrator for Moriel Ministries.
As you are aware, the Moriel board has determined various teachings of Mr. David Nathan, formerly associated with Moriel, to be false and heretical.
We reject Mr. Nathan’s denial of the Gospel not being eternal and the Blood of Jesus not being eternally efficacious while the blood of millennial animals will be. Here, we are in agreement with the public letter in this regard by Pastor Bill Randles. We further reject David Nathan's false teaching of a personal word from The Lord being co-equal with the Written Word of God, and his insistence that God The Father is not the Creator and that The Father never created anything. We additionally reject as categorically false the teaching posted on the internet on the 24th of June of this year that Christians can pray the anointing of God into the fabric of a jacket or tie.
While we accept Studio Scotland and GV24/7 have the legal right to promote and promulgate such a heretical "ministry", it is something with which we want no association. Our board was frankly shocked to see that you had edited the Q&A video of Jacob Prasch and David Nathan at Pastor Randle's church, misleading viewers from the factual reality seen on the unedited video.
When Jacob Prasch agreed to appear in your films 'The Daniel Project' and 'The Daniel Connection', he did so in good faith as unto The Lord for evangelistic aims. He received no remuneration as did the secular actors in your films, nor did he ask for any. We know at least one of these films, and possibly both have been sold to secular interests. Jacob Prasch did not do these films 'gratis' for commercial reasons but as a faith based enterprise only.. Neither he, nor his board wish material featuring him in film, orally, in name, image, or otherwise being distributed by an organisation promoting what we can only deem as heresy, nor have his name or work misused for commercial purposes in any non Evangelical enterprise.
Moriel is is also in total harmony with those pastors, churches, and ministries that have banned David Nathan as a false teacher such as Tony Pearce, John Haller, Pastor Charles, The Christian Ministers Fellowship International (CMFI), Genesis Radio & TV and various others.
We respectfully request therefore that you immediately remove these two videos having Jacob Prasch and any other containing any narration by Jacob Prasch. We are a ministry, not a business, and we uphold scriptural truth, we do seek not any alliance with those merchandising such serious doctrinal error of a blatantly heretical and very serious nature.
Kindly remove aforementioned titles featuring Jacob Prasch. Neither he, nor we wish his name to be even be associated with Studio Scotland.
Sincerely,
David Lister
**DISCLAIMER** The Moriel Facebook page is for posting announcements. It is not a forum for open discussion and/or debate. To limit this, we have opted to hide ALL comments from ALL users. We reserve the right to delete any comments or ban any disruptive users. We highly encourage everyone to private message us with their comments or concerns. {3}

Official Response to David Lister for distribution

FAO: Mr David Lister
Moriel Ministries USA
Moriel Missions UK
Date: 7th November 2018

I always make myself available to meet and discuss challenges that life can bring, particularly where conflict may arise and yesterday I replied to a disparaging email from Jacob Prasch with the intent to see if we could meet to discuss recent events – his response was both unhelpful and shameful. To that end I have been counselled to keep my reply to your organisation only to the subject of the production questions raised.

The following information is given in accordance with PACT industry regulations during the period 2006-2010 covering documentary production and distribution.

::The Daniel Project television documentary::

Mr Prasch was one of 10 participants to be interviewed who claimed a specific knowledge on related subject matter. In accordance with regulations governing the use of interviews within a documentary format for terrestrial television, interviews must be conducted with no payment so as to confirm a non-bias agenda (expenses only are normally covered unless waived).

Payment may only be made to professional presenters or voice-over artists in accordance with the type of contract agreed in writing. Presenters are not deemed expert witnesses but merely actors. Every professional documentary or film project is subject to very strict rules and under no circumstances would a film be acquired by any distributor or broadcaster if the substantial paperwork necessary was incomplete. 

After stringent legal processes, productions are acquired by a distributor(s) (they are not sold by the production company) whereby the producers (Studio Scotland Ltd) must sign away all rights but are still liable for all broadcast compliance files, insurance, lawyers, clearance, classification, translation and marketing costs. This is standard procedure. The distributor is the one who leases the production to a broadcaster for a fixed term and agreed rate which we may eventually see a proportion of once all their costs are covered. This can take several years because the remuneration is small and the distributors have to cover the cost of their stand and associated expenses to travel to a film market or festival in order to ‘sell’ our particular film – amongst the thousands of others that are also vying for attention.

Mr Prasch signed a full release contract form in accordance with ‘The Producers Alliance for Cinema and Television’ broadcast standards, a copy of which, if requested may only be sent to Mr Prasch at his personal request or a legal body acting on his behalf. If Mr Prasch would like to receive a copy of said document please ask him to send an SAE to our studio with a signed covering letter. This will be dealt with promptly.

The signed contract is with Mr Prasch and not any bodies or groups he is a part of. By law we cannot divulge personal contractual information to a third party. Removal from commercial films is not possible. Studio Scotland has no rights over both productions. This is standard practice.

::In regard to Mr Prasch’s request to share his beliefs within an evangelistic format::

Proselytisation within a TV documentary format will be rejected under  European broadcast standards, however, in keeping with this request, this was made possible by Studio Scotland via an ‘extras’ section available on an approved DVD and on free digital download for The Daniel Project. The distributor at that time ‘Mercury Media International Ltd’ gave approval (not usual for a distributor) in allowing many churches, and faith based organisations all over the world to use the film as an outreach tool as long as no payments were made – hundreds of showings in churches, halls, hotels, prisons, army camps and universities were granted free licenses. We have a substantial file of emails from churches, pastors, educators and individuals around the world, who have been positively impacted by watching or showing the production. There is also a tiny selection of many hundreds of reviews listed on the official website.

The production was translated to Brazilian Portuguese and Hispanic Spanish for use across South America – and could also be understood by Europeans who didn’t understand English - and we also provided English Subtitles for Hard of Hearing. All of that at a cost of many thousands of dollars. Controversial TV documentaries have strict translation guidelines and must be passed once again through the legal, insurance and certification system. Like everything else, this was financed solely by Studio Scotland. We have not recovered the costs for doing this.

With a legally cleared South American DVD master, we have since been able to supply various ministries reaching out to those communities with 100s of DVDs in card folders at the cost of physical production and delivery. Hundreds if not thousands of DVDs have been given away free of charge and our production / mastering house near London has a record of every DVD produced. This is a requirement in regard to library footage licencing as The Daniel Project has over 100 library licences which we must adhere to as another legal requirement.

::The Daniel CONNECTION feature film::

The Daniel CONNECTION feature film was made for those who would not watch a documentary and has the same aims as The Daniel Project. It has a different distributor, rules and regulations, Studio Scotland Ltd are still thousands of dollars in debt to the distributor and that is before payments can be made to recover costs for production. This is standard for the industry and is clearly understood by professionals within the media. All actors are paid during production in accordance with their agency contracts along with point system benefits after full recovery costs for those eligible. This is a standard practice for cinematic production.

::Commercial gain?::

Three international broadcasters/distributors and an international DVD distributor (servicing supermarkets and book stores worldwide) asked us to re-edit the documentary and in some cases to incorporate other spiritual beliefs to be more in-line with their broadcast policies, which in turn would have enabled Mercury Media and Studio Scotland to gain financially. We refused and those broadcasters/distribution outlets rejected The Daniel Project. We believed it to be important to remain true to the original format and to have integrity in all our dealings.

::In Summary::

Based on an original cable TV /Video resource produced by Stewart and Deborah Menelaws, ‘Cup of Trembling- countdown to Armageddon’ in 1996, ‘The Daniel Project’ was without doubt, one of the most ground breaking terrestrial TV documentaries of its time, working within the strict confines imposed on production covering faith based subjects. As a secular project within a secular environment it has touched the lives of millions via a wide range of networks world-wide.

Tragically, in recent years, a number of Christian based distribution outlets regretfully will no longer stock ‘The Daniel Project’ DVD – and it is Mr Prasch’s behaviour and conduct that has been cited as the issue. Sales of the actual DVD are almost non-existent. The documentary itself is currently showing on Amazon Prime TV and was acquired by the multi award winning documentary distributor ‘Journeyman Pictures’’. All distribution rights belong to them (they acquired Mercury Media resources who went into liquidation owing us royalties). The film continues to touch lives on secular media – and that is who and what it was made for.

::Mr Prasch appearing / removal on faith based media::

In regard to Mr Prasch appearing on our free to view subsidiary Global Vision TV at GV247.TV which is a non-profit part of the company but is required to be connected due to licensing contracts with interviews, film, video and imagery, we had already taken steps to remove Mr Prasch. We are still in the process of clearing his image from various files and whilst this will take time, please be assured, we have made that a priority.

Sincerely: Stewart Menelaws
Managing Director
Studio Scotland Ltd

{1} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD2y77fF7sk
{2} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeRUtdJpuXE&t=1384s
{3} https://www.facebook.com/MorielTV/posts/2146077629043983?__tn__=K-R

Sunday 21 April 2019

JACOB PRASCH FAKE JEW!

No one who practices deceit shall dwell in my house; no one who utters lies shall continue before my eyes. (Psalm 101:7).

I now regard Jacob Prasch as a fake and a liar in every single respect. He is certainly a fake Christian, but now it appears that he is also a fake Jew!

I began my research into Jacob Prasch in 2016 when I questioned his fake intra-seal rapture teaching. I soon discovered that intra-seal contained many troubling errors. Since then I have written a number of posts on the subject. I have also questioned Prasch's relationship with ecumenists David Noakes and Clifford Hill of Issachar Ministries, {1} and recently his approval of Jackie Alnor's article endorsing Freemason Billy Graham as a valid evangelist. {2} Prasch's feigned ignorance of the true identity of John Cambridge also raised a few eyebrows. {3} Some of Prasch's associations are very puzzling indeed for someone claiming to be a solid bible expositor. One way or another, many things about Jacob Prasch do not add up. In September 2016, I came to the following conclusion: "Prasch's casuistry and equivocation, are, dare I say it, almost Jesuitical. I have come to the point where I would not take anything he says at face value." {4}

Since the David Nathan episode last year, more questions about Prasch's true motives have come into question. In particular the destructive antichristian venom that he often directs towards others has been highlighted. Many Christians have suffered at the hands of Prasch and his abusive rages over the years, and true to type, Prasch has also abused me with his often repeated "Jezebel" slur. In recent months, Prasch's deception has been exposed on a regular basis. In particular, Frank Rogers' videos on YouTube identify some specific issues! {5}

Inexplicably, Prasch retains the support of the CMFI {6} and people like Marco Quintana, John Haller, Joshua Chavez and Amos Farrell. Bill Randles association with Moriel is at an end, although he still persists in slandering David Nathan. These Praschites are the so called "leaders" who have oversight and influence over a significant part of the remnant church in these perilous times! (2 Timothy 3:1).

moriel.org: "Jacob’s family is a combination of Roman Catholic and Jewish. (In his youth he was forced to attend a Catholic school, but also attended the Jewish Community Center."{7}

Prasch: "I have two first names - James and Jacob. When I was a baby they called me James. It was Anglicised from my father's grandfather's name, Ya'kov - Jacob. It is good that I have two first names because my family is a combination of two backgrounds - Irish Catholic and Jewish." {8} On ancestry.co.uk Prasch's grandfather on his father's side is George Conrad Prasch, and on his mother's side it is Francis Joseph Connors. https://vimeo.com/330059149 (password Ancestry).

Prasch: "Now I grew up in the New York area and I was sent both to a Roman Catholic school and the Jewish community center. I had brit milah, plus I was sprinkled as a baby." {9}

Brit Milah [Hebrew: בְּרִית מִילָה] is a Jewish religious male circumcision ceremony performed by a mohel (a Jew who performs the rite of circumcision) on the eighth day of the infant's life.

In the clip below Prasch claims that he is "fluent in Hebrew", after confirming his family's background as Jewish and Roman Catholic:
vimeo.com/331578527 (password Hebrew)

Prasch's most recent books state that he has a Jewish background:
vimeo.com/331564900 (password Shadows)

Prasch's repeated claim of having a Jewish background has now been thrown into serious doubt.

The record lists Prasch's father as James Aloysius Prasch 1926-1988 from New Jersey USA.

There is no indication in the record that he was Jewish. Indeed the Prasch gravestone is situated in a Catholic graveyard complete with masonic symbol.
vimeo.com/330059149 (password Ancestry)













Above: Prasch's uncle on his father's side - John Gilbert Prasch.
A Freemason and definitely not Jewish!


























































Someone going by the name of Truth Dispenser left the following comment on Frank Rogers' recent video. I am informed that these details come from inside the Prasch camp and concern a cover up by Moriel staff:

"Despite what he claims, people very close to Prasch have covered his deceit for years because James (Jimmy) A. Prasch comes from a Catholic family with no Jewish blood.
Both parents were catholic going back many generations.
Prasch is not a Jewish surname and his dad who was a New York cop was buried in St Mary's catholic cemetery. In fact, Prasch is named after his dad and BOTH have the same middle name of Aloysius after the catholic saint of the same name.
His dad's memorial stone also shows his older brother's name and has the sign of The Cross and the Freemason's compasses on it.
The New Jersey synagogues have no record of a catholic boy of that name converting to Judaism or receiving his bar mitzvah.
This will come as a shock to the many people who followed Prasch, because they thought he was Jewish. When he first began the charade many years ago, he called himself Yacov - and many still call him that in England.
When he was challenged about it, he then changed his name to Jacob, which most people now call him, but his family and old friends continue to call him by his real name of Jimmy.
Yes, he married a Jewish girl he met in Israel. Yes, they lived in Galilee and yes, he has learned some Hebrew and Yiddish.
But that's as far as it goes."
{10}

Anonymous left comment on my blog on the 12th of April:

"Another question that is really not asked is does James (Jimmy) Prasch truly have Jewish ancestry in his family?
Jacobs mother was a faithful Roman Catholic and his father James Prasch SR was of no apparent faith at all.
Jimmy's mom and dad would have been married in a Roman Catholic Church and a priest back in those days would never have married a Roman Catholic to a Jewish man.
Now James wife Pavia is for sure Jewish so maybe after James married Pavia he adopted the Jewish faith and then eventually both James and Pavia would convert to Christianity.
Jacobs real name is listed here on his mom's obituary.
Maureen A. Prasch (Nee:Connors)
Lakewood - Maureen A. Prasch (Nee:Connors); 86, passed away peacefully on Saturday, April 28th at the Center for Hope Hospice in Elizabeth, NJ, surrounded by her loving family.
Maureen was born and raised in Bayonne, NJ. She moved to Highlands, NJ where she lived until her retirement in 1989. Before eventually settling in Lakewood, NJ, she spent her early retired years extensively travelling the U.S. and lived briefly on Whidbey Island in Washington State, and in Venice, Hollywood Beach and West Palm Beach, FL.
She was a retired Scheduler for NY and NJ Port Authority for over 21 years. She loved New York City and spent much of her free time there enjoying it. She was a patriotic American who bore a deep love for her Irish heritage. She travelled to Ireland many times and was an avid fan of its music, dance and literary culture.
Beloved Mother of James A. Prasch, Jr., Theresa Prasch Ward, Robert C. Prasch, & Sandra O'Connor Carey. Devoted Grandmother of Beth Miel, Eli Prasch, Kieran Prasch, Ashlyn Ward & Rhiannon O'Connor. Adoring Great-Grandmother of Joshua Miel. Loving Sister of Catherine Connors and the late Michael, Charles, Brian, Francis, and Cornelius Connors, Theresa Boyle, Anne Halecki, and Margaret Carstens. Dear Sister-In-Law of Peter Halecki. She is also survived by many Nieces & Nephews.
Relatives and friends are invited to attend the Viewing on Wednesday, May 2nd from
4 - 8 PM at the G. Keenen O'Brien Funeral Home, 984 Avenue C, Bayonne. A Funeral Mass will be offered on Thursday, May 3rd at 11 AM at St. Vincent's Church. Private Cremation.
Published in Asbury Park Press on May 1, 2018
So Jacob maybe adopted the name Jacob so he could be called Yacov and sell himself as a Jewish American teacher?
Again keeping in mind his wife Pavia is very smart and teaches Hebrew and Mathematics in the UK where Jimmy still lives.
Jimmy is a citizen of the UK not of American and has no American address unless you include David Listers address where Jimmy will stay on occasion.
Interesting the bag of goods people have been sold for decades.
Jimmy has always been an angry person.

I hope he gets better "

Prasch has falsely linked his ancestral name with Pharisee. {11} Wikipedia: "The Pharisee ("separatist") party emerged largely out of the group of scribes and sages. Their name comes from the Hebrew and Aramaic parush or parushi, which means 'one who is separated.'" {12} However, my research has revealed no connection between the name parush/parushi and Prasch. This is another piece of fiction! The origin of Prasch is unknown - the name is most prevalent in the USA, Germany and Austria. {13}

The name on Prasch's birth certificate is James Aloysius Prasch. The alumni roll from St Mary’s Star of The Sea Roman Catholic School in Prasch's home town of Bayonne, New Jersey confirms his name on the second column near the end of 1967. "Aloysius is a French baby name. In French the meaning of the name Aloysius is: Famous warrior, from the Old German 'Chlodovech'. Aloysius is the name of the Italian Saint Aloysius of Gonzaga, and common among British Roman Catholics." {14} "Saint Aloysius de Gonzaga, SJ (Italian: Luigi Gonzaga; 9 March 1568 – 21 June 1591) was an Italian aristocrat who became a member of the Society of Jesus." {15} I am sure that many are aware, the Roman Catholic Order the Society of Jesus are the infamous Jesuits.

Despite his questionable claim of Jewish descent, I fear that Prasch is no true friend of the Jewish people at all! His despicable attempt at foisting the Metatron onto the Jewish people in place of Jesus Christ under the guise of "evangelism" says it all! Messianic Jew, David Nathan (Bread of Life Ministries) felt the full force of Prasch's viscous nature after he announced that he was leaving Moriel Ministries, and consequently Prasch's sphere of influence.

I find some interesting parallels between Jacob Prasch and Haman (Hebrew: המן‎ Hâmân; also known as Haman the Agagite or Haman the evil). Haman, was the main antagonist in the Book of Esther and a descendant of Agag, the Nephilim king of the Amalekites, the bitterest enemies of the Jews. (1 Samuel 15:8). Haman's hatred of the Jews qualifies him as a type of the Antichrist. Ironically, Haman means to rage, be turbulent. Strong's 2001a {16}

Then Harbona, one of the eunuchs in attendance on the king, said, “Moreover, the gallows that Haman has prepared for Mordecai, whose word saved the king, is standing at Haman’s house, fifty cubits high.” And the king said, “Hang him on that.” (Esther 7:9).

In Susa the citadel itself the Jews killed and destroyed 500 men, and also killed Parshandatha and Dalphon and Aspatha and Poratha and Adalia and Aridatha and Parmashta and Arisai and Aridai and Vaizatha, the ten sons of Haman the son of Hammedatha, the enemy of the Jews, but they laid no hand on the plunder. (Esther 9:6-10).


Will Jacob Prasch finally be hoisted with his own petard?

The LORD watches over the sojourners; he upholds the widow and the fatherless, but the way of the wicked he brings to ruin. (Psalm 146:9).

UPDATE 16th July 2020:

Prasch's Fake Jewish Paternal Ancestry ~ bogus Nazi document and Israeli ID: 
https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2020/07/jacob-prasch-metatron-in-place-of-jesus.html

1. https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2018/09/jacob-prasch-david-noakes-moriel.html
2. http://christiansentinel.com/2018/02/22/legacy-billy-graham/
3. https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2018/12/jacob-prasch-moriel-ministries-who-is.html
4. https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2016/09/jacob-prasch-moriel-ministries-further.html
5. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0AyZLfWyyB9XXdZR-ODXNA
6. https://www.moriel.org/articles-and-news/7157-statement-of-cmfi-concerning-moriel,-april-2019.html
7. https://www.moriel.org/about/19-general/5992-about-jacob-prasch.html
8. Jacob Prasch: Israel, The Church & The Jews 2008 page 263
9.
https://www.moriel.org/questions/questions-for-jewish-people/questions-for-jewish-people-introduction.html
10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmml7O2_zAc&app=desktop

11. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p5RuQKlfjA&app=desktop
12. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisees
13. http://www.namespedia.com/details/Prasch
14. https://www.sheknows.com/baby-names/name/aloysius/
15. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloysius_Gonzaga
16. https://biblehub.com/hebrew/2001a.htm

Thursday 16 July 2020

JACOB PRASCH: METATRON IN PLACE OF JESUS CHRIST

And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” (Acts 4:12).

Moriel's 2007 article in Afrikaans (excerpt translated into English below) is unequivocal in identifying the Metatron as Jesus. This is not an Acts 17:22-23 apologetic to an "unknown god" as Prasch has recently claimed, rather it is a devious attempt to substitute Jesus Christ with a named mythical Jewish figure. (Titus 1:14).

 

https://www.moriel.org/teaching/sermons-in-afrikaans/metatrone-afrikaans.html

Prasch condemns the Kabballah as "absolutely occult".  He goes on to say: "It comes from Babylonian gnosticism repackaged in Jewish terminology, but it is of occult origin. It is a false belief system of a corrupted Judaism that denies its Messiah." {1} By some perverse reasoning, Prasch uses the Kabballah, a source that he absolutely condemns, in order to insert the occult mythical figure the Metatron in place of Jesus Christ into the very Throne Room of God! (Revelation 5:6).

Prasch and Jews For Jesus

Prasch was heavily involved with the ecumenical Messianic Jewish Christian organization Jews For Jesus after leaving a cult called "Forever Family". Jews For Jesus gave Prasch financial assistance in order to help him get through seminary, and this seems to have been the point at which his Jewish "adventure" began.

Prasch: "One thing I know for sure is that I would not be in the ministry today if it were not for the way that God used Moishe Rosen and Jews For Jesus." {2}

Coincidentally, Jews For Jesus also cite some disturbing comparisons between the Metatron and Jesus in their article "Kabbalah's Best Kept Secret?" {3} 

Prasch is (supposedly) against the ecumenical movement, and yet he associates with, and approves of, Anglican ecumenists and false prophets David Noakes and Clifford Hill of Issachar Ministries. {4} Prasch could hardly have been unaware of Jews for Jesus radical ecumenism.

UK Apologetics Library: "Jews for Jesus participated in the first ecumenical conference that I attended with press credentials. It was New Orleans ’87. There were about 35,000 people in attendance representing some 40 denominations, and one-half were Roman Catholics." {5}

Prasch's Fake Jewish Paternal Ancestry

Chris Rosebrough recently debunked Prasch's alleged Jewish paternal ancestry. In the process he discovered that Prasch's bogus certification of his family tree is actually a Nazi document dated the 5th of June 1939, and that Adolf and Wolff Brasch from Leipzig are not listed in Prasch's ancestry. {6}



Prasch's alleged ID certificate is actually an application form to replace lost immigration documents:



Prasch giving the horned hand signal whilst displaying his Nazi document

For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. (2 Corinthians 11:4).

Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind.. (Colossians 2:18 cf. Revelation 19:10).

Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (Philippians 2:9-11).

But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” (Revelation 21:8).

Sunday 21 October 2018

DOES JACOB PRASCH REALLY CARE ABOUT DOCTRINE? MORIEL MINISTRIES

I have previously warned that Jacob Prasch will be sharing a platform with ecumenical "prophet" David Noakes whom he regards as a "valid prophetic voice", at Moriel's Scottish Conference in November. {1} Noakes' first person extra-biblical prophecies should be of great concern to anyone supporting Moriel. We know that the canon of scripture is complete and that any prophecy should be tested against the scriptures. (1 John 4:4) These extra-biblical "revelations" from Noakes concerning Britain are highly irregular for two reasons. Firstly he is ecumenical, which as many will appreciate, precludes him from the office of "prophet" and in fact even puts doubt upon his faith as a genuine believer. Secondly, Noakes' prophecy concerning Britain has no foundation in the scriptures. The Bible contains all the revelation we need for life and godliness (2 Peter 1:3). The Word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword (Hebrews 4:12). The Bible is “useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work” (2 Timothy 3:16-17). 

This is not the first time that Prasch has supported an ecumenical teacher! He openly supports ecumenist and false prophet Clifford Hill, founder of Issachar Ministries and Prophecy Today. His baffling endorsement of ecumenist Chuck Smith is another blatant case in point. {2} More recently, Prasch's endorsement of Billy Graham's false ministry as portrayed by Jackie Alnor is also inexplicable considering his previous criticism of Graham. {3}

The Plank in Jacob Prasch's Eye

Apart from his ecumenical associations, Jacob Prasch's intra seal theory is a preposterous denial of the gospel! Intra-seal is a perverse doctrine that cuts unbelievers off from God during the final seven years of history, the period known as Daniel's seventieth week. Intra-seal has been taught by Prasch several times dogmatically. It is important to make the distinction that David Nathan (Bread of Life Ministries South Africa) proposed his millennium theory as his own opinion. He has repeated this proviso on a number of occasions. Intra-seal is more dangerous than Nathan's millennium error since it concerns the salvation of unbelievers in this age. Prasch teaches John Nelson Darby's pre-trib error that the Holy Spirit is the "restrainer" of 2 Thessalonians 2:2-3. There is absolutely no foundation for this view in the scriptures. Prasch also teaches that the Holy Spirit will be taken from the world, that there will be no church (since when did believers cease to be the church?), there will be no gospel, grace will come to an end, there will be no conviction of sin etc. for these final seven years. How then will unbelievers be saved during the 70th week, and where does it say any of these things in the scriptures? Shall we write off unbelievers during the 70th week on Prasch's say so?

As far as I am aware, David Nathan has not challenged intra-seal directly. However, on at least one occasion he categorically stated that the "restrainer" of 2 Thessalonians 2:2-4 is the Archangel Michael and not the Holy Spirit. On a past video recording, he explained the phrase: "At that time", confirming that Daniel 12:1 refers to Israel and the end times, and that Michael will “stand aside” (Hebrew amad): "That is who is restraining, it is Michael, the angel that God has set over his people Israel." David Nathan not only confirmed the pre-wrath position, he also confirmed that a seven year tribulation is definitely not found in the scriptures. As such he has rejected intra-seal by default. The YouTube video in question has unfortunately been deleted: Eschataology Part 7 (The seven seals). {4}

David Nathan's lack of support for intra-seal may be a factor explaining why he really fell out of favour with Prasch who does not like to be gainsaid. This very subject was brought up by Lifestyle C who no longer endorse David Nathan since Prasch's termination of their association:

Danie Strydom, Lifestyle C: "With this response by Jacob we concur although we personally have more questions outstanding currently that have not been answered to satisfaction in our own context in South Africa on teachings on Prayer as well as Reformed Theology and the Angel as Restrainer with which we differ with David and which has also led to this decision!" {5}

It would be very helpful to get clarification from David Nathan  about his intra-seal views, although perhaps he considers that a counter attack upon Prasch's dubious eschatology is unwise at this time (?)

The primary requirement for anyone pronouncing judgement on another is that the "judge" does not have the same or a worse sin in their own lives. In fact Matthew 7:1-5 promises that hypocritical judgements upon others will bring about judgement upon ourselves. Jacob Prasch has put himself in a very perilous position before God a number of times, but it seems to have peaked out in his attack upon David Nathan. Considering Prasch's undeniable ecumenical associations and his own false intra-seal theory that he teaches dogmatically, is Prasch in a position to judge David Nathan on any level? He is clearly not qualified to take the "splinter" out of David Nathan's eye. Even if he were in a position to expose Nathan's error, which he is not, the manner this has been executed has reinforced him as a particularly unpleasant character together with his henchman Servus Christi aka Joshua Chavez. Moriel already has a reputation as an abusive ministry. An abuser is called a "reviler" in the scriptures and Christians are warned against associations with such people. (1 Corinthians 5:11)

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.
(Matthew 7:1-5).

Pulpit Commentary: "..the passage as a whole does not say that we never ought to try to remove such "motes," but that this is monstrous and almost impossible so long as we ourselves have a fault of so much magnitude as censoriousness."

Gill's Exposition: "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye,.... Very rightly does our Lord call such a man an hypocrite, who is very free in remarking and reproving other men's sins, and covering his own; and indeed, one end of his critical observations, rigid censures, and rash judgments is, that he might be thought to be holier than he is."

Matthew Poole's Commentary: "That it is notorious impudence to pretend to censure and judge others for sins in which we live ourselves." 

"a perverse judge.." {6}

Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. (Romans 2:1 cf. John 8:7).


I do have reservations about the ministry of David Nathan due to the views he proposed about animal sacrifices and the Blood of Christ in the Millennium, albeit that he has now modified those views. Critically, David Nathans Right of Reply {7} omitted Bill Randles voiced concern: "It is inconceivable for me to believe that anyone could be reconciled to God on any level other than by the blood of Jesus." {8} This edited video by GV247.tv was misleading, and the resulting response by Jacob Prasch puts both Stewart Menelaws and David Nathan in a bad light. Regarding David Nathan's teaching about clothing/cloths being infused with healing power, apparently this was retracted some years ago (?) Clearly there have been (or still are) doctrinal errors within Bread of Life Ministries that cannot easily be dismissed. (James 3:1).

In spite of my reservations, David Nathan's full apology on Bill Randles blog does show a humility I have rarely, if ever, seen in a bible teacher. I think he deserves credit and encouragement for this. True followers of Jesus Christ surely do not want him to be completely cast down beyond measure. None of us are without sin.. we would not want our own failings aired in such a vicious manner! The Lord's blessing and help will surely be there for anyone who is willing to humble himself so publicly and completely. I have to admire David Nathan for this.

15th October 2018

Dear Pastor Bill

Thank you for the spirit in which your open letter has been written and the grace extended to me, to publically express my position and understanding of animal sacrifices and the Blood of Christ in the Millennium which has caused much unwanted consternation and strife amongst the brethren. This was never my intention and if I could, I would turn the clock back and do things very differently. I also want to apologise publicly if I appeared to come across in the teachings as arrogant and prideful as I certainly never intended to be, for my desire is to reflect Jesus at all times although I am aware I often fall short.

Sadly this unpleasant circumstance has exposed the hearts of numerous believers and many have brought a serious indictment against the Church of Jesus because of their conduct and responses, I do not exclude myself.

For this, I cannot take the blame exclusively as there is a correct and biblical way to deal with disagreement and error which was not followed. I do not write this as a justification or a defence but rather as a warning that what has transpired between myself and Moriel must never be repeated again for sake of our testimony to the world and those of the flock who have been badly shaken.

To begin with, I want to acknowledge that I made some very dogmatic statements which instead of giving emphasis to what I was try to explain, had the complete opposite effect and misconstrued what I was trying to convey. For this, I want to unreservedly and wholeheartedly apologise.

I am extremely grateful that you acknowledge that I do not teach that there is salvation except through the shed blood of Jesus and that the whole concern is regarding the Blood of Jesus and salvation in the Millennium alone.

The statement which I should not have made but rather should have sought to express myself very differently and that folk have objected to is, “The Blood of Jesus will not profit anyone, anything in the Millennium.”

In using this phrase, which I regret, I was not stating that the Blood of Jesus does not cleanse in all ages as this would be a clear violation of scripture. His blood alone can take away sin and every sacrifice from Genesis 3:21, when the Lord clothed Adam and Eve in tunics of skin to the sacrifices of the Millennium all point to Jesus. In the teaching I kept using the word atone to describe the purpose of the millennial sacrifices in the sense that they do not remove sin but cover sin. I reiterate again that I do not teach nor believe that the sin of an animal or animals can ever remove sin. Not under the Old Testament, not now nor in the age to come. Only the Blood of Jesus can remove sin both now and forever, including the millennium. This is and has always been what I have believed though I did not express it succinctly in the series on Eschatology.

I only offer the above as an explanation of why I used the phrase and not as an excuse for trying to justify using it. I was wrong to use it as it does not, nor ever did convey what I actually believe regarding the eternal cleansing power of the Blood of Jesus which alone removes sin for all ages.

I sincerely apologise for misrepresenting my beliefs and using a phrase that instead of explaining what I believed rather distorted them and led to confusion among believers and dissension between myself and Moriel Ministries. Moriel TV very unfortunately produced a highly edited video that took various statements that I had made out of context which only exasperated the issue. (They have done this on more than one occasion since Tim Wirth was replaced)

The motive for this remains unclear as in response to my meeting with Jacob in May, Jacob Prasch himself admitted in an email dated 22 July 2018, and I quote, “The best I could gauge the situation personally was that he partially misrepresented his own actual beliefs in the manner he addressed an important theological issue and was to some degree misunderstood. David Nathan does subscribe to the Moriel statement of Faith that The Blood of Christ cleanses from all Sin.”

I add this not as an excuse for poorly communicating my beliefs as already mentioned but rather to evidence that for reasons never disclosed, Moriel TV sought fit to produce a biased video that exaggerated the error out of context.

I have already and will continue to re-edit these teachings to remove anything that contradicts what I have conveyed above.

Regarding Moriel’s video comparing me to Benny Hinn in an old teaching I did in 2009. I want to state that I no longer believe what I taught and berate myself for still even believing that in 2009.

I can categorically state that I absolutely do not teach this anymore and I have edited the video in question to reflect this and will go through old teachings to make sure that this does not appear. I have issued an apology already for this and gladly do it again.

I do hope that this letter serves to remind us all that none of us is above correction nor do any one of us know all truth as Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 13:12 but we are all to be teachable and be willing to learn. Where we err we must repent and apologise where necessary.

Thank you Pastor Bill for making this platform available.

May the Lord continue to mature us and keep us by His grace until we all come to the knowledge of the truth.

Blessings in Jesus who alone bore our sins and purchased eternal life for them that will believe,

David Nathan.
{9}

Perhaps this is the right time to clarify that I do not have a "vendetta" against Jacob Prasch as has been circulated by some. I have simply exposed the errors contained within intra-seal, Prasch's ecumenical associations and his hypocrisy. I do not like false teachers, particularly those who are enemies of the remnant church. Other than the above, I have no interest in Jacob Prasch whatsoever.


{1} https://www.moriel.org/
{2} https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2018/08/was-chuck-smith-ecumenical-jacob-prasch.html
{3} http://christiansentinel.com/2018/02/22/legacy-billy-graham/
{4} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmUbFG064X8
{5} http://lifestylec.com/a-scriptural-response-to-david-nathan-his-proponents-by-jacob-prasch/
{6} https://biblehub.com/matthew/7-5.htm
{7} https://www.gv247.tv/movies/shepherd/she_right2reply1.htm
{8} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeRUtdJpuXE    @ 23:00 minutes
{9} https://www.facebook.com/john8v32/posts/2779900135357176

Tuesday 8 October 2019

THE ARROGANCE OF BILL AND KRISTIN RANDLES

Bill Randles breaks the scriptures by his insistence on being called "Pastor Bill".

Reading the New Testament, I notice that even the apostles were known and were referred to primarily by their personal names. They sometimes referred to themselves as "servant of Jesus Christ", and they followed their name with their calling as "an apostle" small a.

Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God (2 Corinthians 1:1).
Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God.. (Romans 1:1).
Paul and Timothy, servants of Christ Jesus, (Philippians 1:1).

Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, (1 Peter 1:1).
James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, (James 1:1)
Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and brother of James, (Jude 1:1).
One afternoon Peter and John were going up to the temple at the hour of prayer.. (Acts 3:1).

The scriptures are clear enough surely:

For they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, 6and they love the place of honour at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues and greetings in the marketplaces and being called rabbi by others. But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ. The greatest among you shall be your servant. Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted. (Matthew 23:5-11).

I let Bill Randles first fallacious ad hominem remark pass when he called me a "feminist" on TBCKAWAII's video - Prasch Lynching Bill Randles {1} I simply responded by asking the question: Where is your evidence?

Predictably, Randles has now followed up his first insult by labelling me an "abusive reviler" along with others. {2}  Once again: Where is your evidence Bill Randles.. are you attempting to pass off ad hominem remarks as acceptable Christian practice? Once again, you break the scriptures by making accusations you are not prepared to back up with specific examples and facts. (2 Corinthians 13:1).

I have left a response on Randles recent blog post.. but I doubt that he will he publish it:
  
"I do object to being labelled a "very abusive railer" Bill.. you need to retract this insult? This is the second time you have made a false accusation against me, "feminist" being the first time.. I WOULD NOT DARE to make an accusation against a brother or sister in the Lord without citing the evidence! Do you forget that I have evidence of your wife's very abusive behaviour against David Nathan, albeit behind his back? As for Prasch's associations.. he is provably involved with proven false prophets/ecumenists David Noakes and Clifford Hill.. I do not think that you are a false teacher per se.. but you do seem to have some questionable associations and your arrogance is insupportable."


Having stated that Bill Randles is not a false teacher as far as doctrine is concerned, the personal behaviour of an elder/pastor is a critical factor for anyone in church leadership: Keep a close watch on yourself and on the teaching. Persist in this, for by so doing you will save both yourself and your hearers. (1 Timothy 4:16 cf. 1 Peter 2:1). Some translations have: Keep a close watch on your life and doctrine.. The Randles' habit of making unsubstantiated accusations and slandering their fellow believers is a very grave matter indeed, unacceptable in fact from people in their position.   

If I absolutely must expose a sample of the horrible behaviour of both Bill and Kristin Randles, then let it be so. The conversation I had with Kristin begs the question: Who actually is the reviler? I have not published this material previously because I wanted to spare David Nathan further pain. Please bear in mind that Kristin Randles said these things to me as a complete stranger.. I had no prior exchange with her prior to the communication below: 







  


Bill Randles responds to slander of Jacob Prasch and Moriel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jv8eJu3KbQ&t=215s
Bill Randles 2nd response to Moriel Board - Jacob Prasch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p74A2vFyG-o&feature=youtu.be

2.  https://billrandles.wordpress.com/2019/10/08/to-the-moriel-board/