JACOB PRASCH DAVID NATHAN MARCO QUINTANA: THE MILLENNIAL QUESTION

Jacob Prasch exposed (pt6) , David Nathan (Marco Quintana) Millennial reign - what really happened?

In the above video, Frank Rogers refers to a previous discussion between Jacob Prasch and David Nathan about the millennium back in October 2016 at Community Church Devore in Southern California in which they share their millennial views. At this meeting, Jacob Prasch, David Nathan and Marco Quintana are all in agreement, i.e. after the rapture of the church, the age of grace comes to an end:

Jacob Prasch: "Once the harpazo transpires, the Lord will refocus His primary intentions on the salvation of Israel, although not salvation in the sense that we understand it, not by grace, it will ?? revert back to the Old Testament way of dealing with man and the nations." 

David Nathan re-emphasises Prasch's point: "After the rapture, the age of dispensation of grace as we know it, the church age is over. From that moment until the end of the millennium, everything reverts back under law. There is no salvation in the sense of being adopted, being part of the family of God. The Jews and those in the millennium will become the people of God and not the family of God. Everything reverts back under old covenant. So when Jesus comes, that's it, salvation, as we understand it, by grace is over. That is why the parables of the marriage feast in Matthew 22 and  in 25 says that when the door is shut, no one else can come in. If you don't have a wedding garment on, in other words, garments made of white by the blood of the Lamb ?? any other garment, you are going to get kicked out. So when the Lord returns, He comes for his bride, there are not two weddings. There is one wedding for one bride at one time in history. You are either in it or you are not. After that, everything goes back under Law."

Jacob Prasch nods at various points and is in full agreement with everything David Nathan says.

Jacob Prasch: "The wedding is the same as the door being shut in Noah's ark." 

The statement that millennial Jews and Gentiles will not be saved under grace because the marriage feast is over is extremely problematic. Are not Israel regarded corporately as God's wife during the millennium? (Isaiah 54:5; 62:5; Hosea 2:16).

My understanding is that those Gentiles who are not raptured after the tribulation will not repent and be saved. In other words, the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled at the rapture i.e. the number of Gentile believers is complete at that particular point. (Luke 21:24; Romans 11:25 cf. Ezekiel 30:3). This leaves the Jewish people and also the survivors of the nations who came against Jerusalem in the millennium. (Zechariah 14:16).

The rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands nor give up worshiping demons and idols of gold and silver and bronze and stone and wood, which cannot see or hear or walk, nor did they repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts. (Revelation 9:20-21 cf. Revelation 16:9-11). 

In the case of Noah's ark, when "the door is shut", those outside perish utterly:

Then the LORD shut him in.. And every living thing on the face of the earth was destroyed—man and livestock, crawling creatures and birds of the air; they were blotted out from the earth, and only Noah remained, and those with him in the ark. (Genesis 7:16, 23). Similarly, In Luke 13, the door is shut to those "workers of evil", i.e. the false teachers are cast out. (Luke 13:24-28).

The same thing applies in Luke 13. Once the door is shut, those outside are utterly rejected and without hope:

Strive to enter through the narrow door. For many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able. When once the master of the house has risen and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and to knock at the door, saying, ‘Lord, open to us,’ then he will answer you, ‘I do not know where you come from.’ Then you will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank in your presence, and you taught in our streets.’ But he will say, ‘I tell you, I do not know where you come from. Depart from me, all you workers of evil!’ In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God but you yourselves cast out." (Luke 13: 24-28). 

The concept of "the door being shut", as in Noah's ark and the wedding feast doesn't make any sense in the context of the millennium. The phrase "the door was shut" is qualified in that it refers to "the other virgins/the foolish virgins". (Matthew 25:2-11). My view is that Jacob Prasch, David Nathan and Marco Quintana took the illustrations of Noah's ark and the wedding feast completely out of sync.

Why does David Nathan separate "the people of God" from "the family of God" during the millennium? The nature of NT believers is described by the same predicates originally applied to those under the Law in the OT. (1 Peter 2:9; Exodus 19:5-6). According to David Nathan, somehow millennial believers' relationship with God is reduced because they come under Law, but I see no evidence of this in the scriptures. (Revelation 21:7). The phrase "the people of God" encompasses a number of different aspects of the unique relationship between God and his people.

For you are our Father, though Abraham does not know us, and Israel does not acknowledge us; you, O LORD, are our Father, our Redeemer from of old is your name. (Isaiah 63:16 cf. Ephesians 1:2; Romans 1:7).

There are many verses that refer to both OT Israelites and NT Christians as "the people of God".

Old Testament: Exodus 3:7, 10; 6:7; Leviticus 26:12; Ruth 1:16; 2 Chronicles 6:5-6; Jeremiah 31:31-33
New Testament: Luke 22:19-20; see Hebrews 7:22; 8:6-13; 9:15-22; 10:10-31; 11:25; 12:24; 13:20-21; John 1:12-13; 10:7-9, 14-16; Acts 10-11, 15; Romans 9-11; Ephesians 2:11-22; 1 Peter 2:4-10; 1 John 5:11-13

There is a parallel between 2 Corinthians 6:16 and Exodus 37:27: I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 

Will millennial Jews need a wedding feast? The nation of Israel is unlikely to be the Lamb’s bride, because God the Father is already her husband. It appears that Israel will be re-established or restored to her position, not only as "God's people" but as his wife:

Return, O faithless children, declares the LORD; for I am your master (husband); I will take you, one from a city and two from a family, and I will bring you to Zion. (Jeremiah 3:14). 

“If a man divorces his wife and she goes from him and becomes another man’s wife, will he return to her? Would not that land be greatly polluted? You have played the whore with many lovers; and would you return to me? declares the LORD. (Jeremiah 3:1).

She saw that for all the adulteries of that faithless one, Israel, I had sent her away with a decree of divorce. Yet her treacherous sister Judah did not fear, but she too went and played the whore. (Jeremiah 3:8).

Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. (Jeremiah 31:31-33). Plead with your mother, plead— for she is not my wife, and I am not her husband— that she put away her whoring from her face, and her adultery from between her breasts; (Hosea 2:2). She shall pursue her lovers but not overtake them, and she shall seek them but shall not find them. Then she shall say, ‘I will go and return to my first husband, for it was better for me then than now.’ (Hosea 2:7).

And in that day, declares the LORD, you will call me ‘My Husband,’ and no longer will you call me ‘My Baal.’ (Hosea 2:16).

And I will betroth you to me forever. I will betroth you to me in righteousness and in justice, in steadfast love and in mercy. I will betroth you to me in faithfulness. And you shall know the Lord. (Hosea 2:19-20).

"The LORD’s accomplished purpose in Israel’s chastening also will result in the reestablishment of her original husband-wife relationship to the LORD.2 The relationship between Israel and Jehovah is dramatically different than what the NT records concerning Christ and His bride. Perhaps the most significant difference is that the marriage of Jehovah to Israel occurred in time past, whereas the marriage of Christ with His bride has not yet taken place. This is the subject of the passage before us.

Israel in her land was the wife of Jehovah (Jer. Jer. 3:14-20; Isa. Isa. 54:1), but the wife was divorced because of her iniquity. Israel, however, is to be reinstated in Jehovah’s favour. But a divorced wife can never again be a virgin, and it is not a divorced wife but a virgin whom the Lord marries (Lev. Lev. 21:14)." {1}

1. https://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/revelation/related-topics/israel-married-to-jehovah.html