JUSTIN PETERS DOUBLE STANDARDS

 Has Benny Hinn Really Repented of the 9 Member Godhead? - YouTube

Justin Peters goes into great detail about Benny Hinn's false teachings, his dishonest methods, and the steps he should take in order to truly repent. While I agree that Benny Hinn is a blatant wolf, it is disconcerting that Justin Peters has not bothered to respond to the accusation of dishonesty against himself regarding his association with JD Hall! {1}

Following the ill-conceived discussion between Chris Rosebrough, Phil Johnson and Justin Peters on the 7th of July regarding the arrest and public disgrace of JD Hall, the silence has been deafening. {2} The double standards of these three "watchmen" really is something to behold. Hall was arrested on the 11th of May for DUI, and the later charges of domestic violence with a weapon and embezzlement. Both the embezzlement and domestic violence allegations are under police investigation according to the Sidney Police Department. {3}

In February, Hall declared bankruptcy after being sued for libel by Adrian Jawort, a transgender native lobbyist who alleges that an article about her damaged her reputation. {4} According to his attorney, Hall was discharged from bankruptcy on June 8th. It has also been confirmed that Hall has purchased his estate back for $40,000. It is puzzling how Hall came up with $40,000 considering his reported cash assets of just $24. {5}

The full extent of Hall's empire has been reported in The Montana Freepress:

"The bankruptcy also opened a window into Hall’s otherwise opaque financial world. In documents filed with the court, he reported ownership of Gideon Knox, the umbrella company behind Hall’s business ventures, and “various websites,” a 10% stake in Real Montana News LLC, and total ownership of a federally licensed, appointment-only arms dealer called Black Robe Rifles. He reported owning more than a dozen guns, four cars, an ATV and two trailers. His assets totaled $190,969, against $533,144 in reported liabilities. Fellowship Baptist Church, which owned part of his house in Sidney, paid him a gross salary of $4,250 monthly.." {5}

Justin Peters' dishonesty

Justin Peters: "For the last several years I have not publicly connected myself with Jordan, I have not promoted any of his teaching.." (23:00 mark) 

Justin Peters at Fellowship Bible Church Church 7th March 2021: Good morning. I hope everyone is doing well this morning. It is a joy to be with you, it truly is. I have been here once before and it's been a while, seven eight or so, nine years ago maybe, it's been quite a while, so it's a joy to be back. I appreciate so much Jordan's friendship and the kindness and support that he has shown me.." {6} 

Perhaps Justin Peters would like to explain this "discrepancy" for the benefit of those of us who have questioned his impartiality and his ability to tell the truth? 

Keep your tongue from evil and your lips from speaking deceit. (Psalm 34:13).

1. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST
DAYS: SHAME ON YOU CHRIS ROSEBROUGH / PHIL JOHNSON / JUSTIN PETERS RE JD HALL (bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com)

2.(3) F4F | The Fall of JD Hall - YouTube  

3. PDP22-00477.pdf
4. Jordan Hall files for bankruptcy | - Legal Advocate
5. The gospel, and the GOP, according to Montana pastor J.D. Hall (montanafreepress.org)

6. SermonAudio - Media Player

SHAME ON YOU CHRIS ROSEBROUGH / PHIL JOHNSON / JUSTIN PETERS RE JD HALL

(3) F4F | The Fall of JD Hall - YouTube

Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. (Ephesians 5:11).

It is likely that a number of people in Sydney Montana are rejoicing and praising the Lord following the arrest of JD Hall on the 11th of May for DUI, and the later charges of domestic violence with a weapon and embezzlement. Hall is no longer listed as the pastor of Fellowship Baptist Church in Sydney, Montana, and he has been removed from the staff of Protestia (originally Pulpit & Pen).

It is difficult to comprehend the attitude of Chris Rosebrough, Phil Johnson and Justin Peters during the above "discussion" dated 7th of July. This video appeared to me to be a blatant attempt to block others from publicly evaluating Hall's "ministry". The seriousness of the accusations against Hall does not warrant the accusation of "gloating" or "gossiping" against those who have ventured to express their views publicly. Does Justin Peters claim to know the intentions of the heart? (Hebrews 4:12). Someone who sets themselves up as a pastor with a public profile should be tested biblically and should be held accountable and publicly exposed. (1 John 4:1). It is pertinent to point out that the discussion is not limited exclusively to Rosebrough and his cronies, and that others do actually have the right to discuss and question Hall's "ministry", particularly in light of recent events. Isn't this precisely what these three "watchmen" do in cases that do not involve their own particular clique? Was Paul gossiping about the problem at Corinth? (1 Corinthians 5:1). The church should operate in an atmosphere of complete integrity and openness, especially when things go wrong. 

Our three "watchmen" described how they had implored and admonished Hall on multiple occasions privately regarding his "pugnacious" attitude. Phil Johnson compared Hall to the infamous pastor, J Frank Norris, who shot and killed an unarmed man in his office in 1927. {1}  Rosebrough, Johnson and Peters obviously recognized how dangerous Hall was, both spiritually and physically, and yet they decided to limit their actions to private admonitions!

In such a dire situation it would have been appropriate to put some sort of plan into place. Although the JD Hall situation did not fit the guidelines in Matthew 18, it would have been wise to set up a meeting and remonstrate with Hall as a group. After that, it would have been appropriate to approach Hall's church elders. I believe that this step would have been futile at that time, but at least it would have demonstrated their concerns. According to Micah Hershberger, Hall fired the elders of Fellowship Bible Church in 2014 as a result of their attempts to hold him accountable following the suicide of Braxton Caner. {2} It appears that during 2014, Fellowship Independent Church quickly degenerated into a church with an unhealthy pattern of leadership. In other words, Hall allegedly appointed yes-men as elders, and FBC was effectually transformed into an autocracy. As such, any attempt to hold Hall accountable would have been futile prior to recent events. 

The last step would have been for our three "watchmen" to warn the body of Christ publicly about Hall on their platforms instead of turning a blind eye and essentially propping him up. Paul did not hesitate to publicly call out Peter, his fellow apostle, when he was in error and in danger of damaging the body of Christ. (Galatians 2:11-14). It appears that different criteria apply to many discernment ministries where their own camp is concerned. Given Hall's aberrant behaviour and his alleged arsenal of weapons, it is clear that the concerns of Phil Johnson that Hall posed a life-threatening hazard to others was no exaggeration. How then can we explain his reticence to sound the alarm? (Ezekiel 33:6).

If your brother sins against you, go and confront him privately. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, regard him as you would a pagan or a tax collector. (Matthew 18:16-17).

Justin Peters' dishonesty

   

Justin Peters: "For the last several years I have not publicly connected myself with Jordan, I have not promoted any of his teaching.." (23:00 mark) 

Justin Peters at Fellowship Bible Church Church 7th March 2021: Good morning. I hope everyone is doing well this morning. It is a joy to be with you, it truly is. I have been here once before and it's been a while, seven eight or so, nine years ago maybe, it's been quite a while, so it's a joy to be back. I appreciate so much Jordan's friendship and the kindness and support that he has shown me.." {3} 

To add to the reticence of these "watchmen" to publicly expose Hall as an extremely dangerous man, we are also faced with further difficulties regarding the dishonesty of Justin Peters. Peters' rightly exposes all kinds of dishonesty and lies amongst false teachers, but apparently the rules do not apply to him! We now have to try to make sense of his own dishonesty in falsely stating that he had not publicly connected with Hall for "several years". I have given Justin Peters the benefit of the doubt on previous occasions, particularly regarding the Doreen Virtue incident. It should have been clear to both Rosebrough and Peters that Doreen Virtue had no business seamlessly switching her New Age platform to a Christian "ministry", including detailed accounts of her dubious vision of Jesus, both online and in her book. {4} Rosebrough and Peters' managed to bring some correction to Doreen Virtue, but the whole mess could have been avoided if they had done their due diligence and acted wisely instead of making excuses for yet another Calvinist. 

We have heard nothing further from our three "watchmen" regarding Hall since their attempt to close down the discussion on the 7th of July. Does this mean that they will follow the pattern of other hirelings who choose to ignore troublesome issues hoping that they will go away? The sin of partiality is very serious, particularly for those claiming to operate discernment ministries. (Proverbs 24:23). This is especially relevant considering their wholesale condemnation of Word-Faith NAR prosperity teachers and other heretics. (James 3:1). If we can’t take the plank out of our own eye, then we have no chance of addressing the errors of others. (Matthew 7:5). 

But if we judged ourselves truly, we would not be judged. (1 Corinthians 11:31).

1. Lessons from the Megachurch Pastor Who Killed a Man (thegospelcoalition.org)
2. (1) The Jordan Hall Story - Corruption, Cover-Up & Abuse - YouTube
3. SermonAudio - Media Player
4. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: DOREEN VIRTUE: BEYOND REPROOF (bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com)

J.D. Hall Removed from Church for ‘Failure to Demonstrate Repentance’ (julieroys.com)

PETERS-KOZAR PREMATURE VERDICT ON STEVE LAWSON

Now if anyone has caused pain, he has caused it not to me, but in some measure—not to put it too severely—to all of you. For such a one, this punishment by the majority is enough, so you should rather turn to forgive and comfort him, or he may be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow. So I beg you to reaffirm your love for him. For this is why I wrote, that I might test you and know whether you are obedient in everything. Anyone whom you forgive, I also forgive. Indeed, what I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, has been for your sake in the presence of Christ, so that we would not be outwitted by Satan; for we are not ignorant of his designs. (2 Corinthians 5-11).

The recent Peters–Kozar denunciation of Steve Lawson was issued long before the evidence justified anything resembling a verdict to the point of being irresponsible. They were not grieved as they should have been; rather they relished the chance to show their underlying hostility and hatred towards Lawson. This episode has revealed them for what they are, exposing them as nasty, unforgiving, and unrestrained. They have since moved quickly to erase all record of their vicious remarks.

The suspect post from Protestia: "Lawson briefly appeared as a Conference Speaker along with various women pastors and speakers at the Contending for the Faith Expository Preaching & Teaching Conference, which is presented by the Tennessee Baptist Missionary & Educational Convention (TBMEC), a regional body of the National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc. and was subsequently purged from website."1 Specifically, Lawson was listed as having several workshops on how to prepare a sermon, both on day one and on day three of the event. This generated a spate of protests stating that he is not qualified without anyone even factchecking the source and the information. 

Protestia subsequently published a correction: "We can confirm that the conference organizers advertised Lawson’s participation without his knowledge or consent. They invited him to be a speaker, but before hearing that he intended to decline, there was an internal misunderstanding that led them to assume he would agree. As soon as he found out, he informed them that he would decline the offer, and they promptly removed him from the line-up."2 

The furor began when Justin Peters and Steve Kozar could not wait to stick their knives into Lawson. Their zealous reaction to the suspect news erupted without factchecking the information or thinking about the repercussions of their stinging condemnation of Lawson. These two "discerners" have been left with egg on their faces.. but frankly they could do with a bit of humbling!

Peter's reaction on X: "I was just sent this. Hey, see this is proof Steve Lawson never repented. I wish I could say I was surprised but I'm not."  The post has been hastily deleted.3 

Kozar reposted Peters' post and added: "Steve Lawson, the narcissist, needs to have an audience."

Kozar subsequently posted an update: "I removed my earlier post about Steve Lawson from Justin Peters."4

Comments

Steve Lawson was formally and permanently removed from ministry about eighteen months ago after the elders of Trinity Bible Church of Dallas determined he had engaged in an “inappropriate relationship” with a woman for five years. Following their decision, Lawson resigned from all roles at OnePassion Ministries.5

Various leaders were quick to issue unanimous condemnation and shock reverberated throughout the Reformed camp. Justin Peters wasted no time offering his two pennyworth and weighed in with: "In our camp, you disqualify yourself sexually as a minister, you're done. You can be forgiven, you can be restored to church, but you'll never minister on the pulpit again, ever."

Lawson’s sin was grave indeed and met the biblical threshold for disqualification. Nevertheless, he has complied with every requirement placed on him and he has maintained a low public profile for eighteen months. No one had any reason to doubt his genuine repentance.

Although they have apologised to their readers, Peters and Kozar have failed to apologise to Lawson personally. Assuming that Lawson is a true believer, I wonder how this slander and concealed hatred has affected him personally? (James 4:11; Proverbs 10:18). 

Peters-Kozar pattern of conduct is entirely predictable:

Peters' skewed teaching on repentance and his various questionable teachings. 

WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: Search results for justin peters

Kozar's pronounced self‑importance, his dismissive posture toward other discernment efforts, and his commitment to baptismal regeneration and other Lutheran errors. 

WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: Search results for steve kozar

* As a qualifier, I do not grant the legitimacy of Reformed or Lutheran theology.

1. Steve Lawson Briefly Appears As Conference Speaker, Then Is Purged From Website - Protestia
2. Steve Lawson Briefly Appears As Conference Speaker, Then Is Purged From Website - Protestia
3. Post Not Found - X | 404 Error
4. Steven Kozar on X: "I removed my earlier post about Steve Lawson from Justin Peters. Here is an update:" / X
5. Dr. Steven Lawson Resigns From All OnePassion Ministry Duties Following Moral Failure

JUSTIN PETERS: SEXUAL SIN IS NEVER FULLY BLOTTED OUT - REALLY?

Justin Peters - Dangerous Doctrines: Session 3 (youtube.com)

Justin Peters: "My bible says that sexual sin leaves a wound and the reproach will never be fully blotted out. My bible says that sexual sin is sin that is committed inside the body, not outside the body. There is something especially pernicious and especially injurious about sexual sin that is not true of other sin.. Just because we have been forgiven judicially, does not automatically remove the ugly consequences of that sin, and there is something unique about sexual sin that leaves a wound, it leaves a scar because it is sin that is committed inside the body, not outside the body. The Bible does not 'whisper' about sexual sin.."  (51:00 mark) 

The passage Justin Peters refers to is 1 Corinthians 6 below:

"All things are lawful for me,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful for me,” but I will not be dominated by anything. “Food is meant for the stomach and the stomach for food”—and God will destroy both one and the other. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. And God raised the Lord and will also raise us up by his power. Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never! Or do you not know that he who is joined to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For, as it is written, “The two will become one flesh.” But he who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him. Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body. (1 Corinthians 6:12-20). But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. (1 Corinthians 6:12-21).

Although I agree with much of what Justin Peters says in this video, and I certainly have nothing but contempt for JD Greear and Ed Litton, it would be tragic if those who have been cleansed from their sin by the blood of Jesus were to believe that their previous sexual sin was not fully blotted out! Where does it say this in the Bible? Justin Peters' sweeping statement applies to a great many believers and it would be tragic if any believer, let alone a great number of believers, were to swallow the lie that their sexual sin was not fully blotted out. Paul referred to himself as "the worst of sinners" ~ he was a murderer and all his sins were blotted out. (1 Timothy 1:16). Ironically Justin Peters' opinion runs counterproductive to his aim of exposing false teachers. His false supposition has the potential to ruin the peace of many believers and is injurious to the very gospel itself! (Proverbs 30:6). Isn't this precisely how false doctrine gains a foothold? 

The Bible teaches that when someone repents of their sin and believes the gospel, ALL their sins are blotted out, including sexual sin. Sexual sin does differ from other sins in that it occurs inside the body. However, it is critical to note that Jesus has blotted out ALL our sins completely.

Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.. (Acts 3:19 cf. Isaiah 43:25,44:22; Psalm 51:1,9).

..how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without blemish to God, purify our conscience from dead works to serve the living God. (Hebrews 9:14).

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all (every) sin.   

Barnes: "The general meaning is plain, that in regard to any and every sin of which we may be conscious, there is efficacy in that blood to remove it, and to make us wholly pure. There is no stain made by sin so deep that the blood of Christ cannot take it entirely away from the soul."

Clarke: "The blood of Jesus Christ — The meritorious efficacy of his passion and death has purged our consciences from dead works, and cleanseth us, καθαριζειημας, continues to cleanse us, i.e., to keep clean what it has made clean, (for it requires the same merit and energy to preserve holiness in the soul of man, as to produce it,) or, as several MSS. and some versions read, καθαριει and καθαρισει, will cleanse; speaking of those who are already justified, and are expecting full redemption in his blood.
And being cleansed from all sin is what every believer should look for, what he has a right to expect, and what he must have in this life, in order to be prepared to meet his God. Christ is not a partial Saviour, he saves to the uttermost, and he cleanses from ALL sin." 

Woods: "Moreover, it cleanses from sin, not merely solely the conscience, but sin (amartias), all sin, whether of thought, word, or deed, rash sins, sins of ignorance, of malice, of omission or commission, sins of the flesh, sins of the disposition, sins of pleasure or of pain, sins of every type and kind committed at any time or place."  1 

1. 1 John 1:7 - Verse-by-Verse Bible Commentary - StudyLight.org

JUSTIN PETERS: CALVINIST OBJECTIONS TO BETHEL + HILLSONG MUSIC

CALVINISTS VERSUS CHARISMATICS

(22) 3 Reasons Churches Should Stop Using Bethel & Hillsong Music | Part 1 with Justin Peters - YouTube
(27) 3 Reasons Churches Should Stop Using Bethel & Hillsong Music | Part 2 with Justin Peters - YouTube

The above videos with Calvinists Justin Peters and Joel Webbon (Right Response Ministries) outline three objective reasons why churches should stop using Bethel and Hillsong music in their worship services:

1. Bethel and Hillsong are not true churches.

2. By using Bethel and Hillsong music, you are subjecting weaker members of your body to heresy.

3. Even the non-heretical songs by Bethel and Hillsong still are not theologically robust enough to combat the idolatry and heresy that already exists  

Justin Peters' view that both Bethel and Hillsong are non-Christian cults is correct. In these two videos Justin Peters' distills the false beliefs of the Word-Faith/Charismatic/New Apostolic Reformation cults and focuses on their over-realized eschatology and their presumption in making false declarations out of sync with the scriptures.  

One of the problems of these cults is a mistranslation of Philippians 2:6-7:  ..who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped (harpagmos), but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.

These heretical cults misinterpret harpagmos (verse 6) to diminish the deity of Jesus Christ during his earthly ministry. They teach that Jesus divested Himself of His deity and they claim that He was only empowered by the Holy Spirit. These charlatans go on to claim that Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to replicate the incarnation in believers. This teaching goes hand in hand with their false "little gods" theology. Jesus did not divest Himself of his deity, He had full equality with the Father during his earthly ministry, but His divinity was often veiled or concealed and not perceived for the most part (with rare exceptions [Matthew 16:16-17,17:2]). The true interpretation of harpagmos is the act of seizing or the thing seized, especially an open display of force. {1} 

Pulpit Commentary: "Verse 7. - But made himself of no reputation; rather, as R.V., but emptied himself; not, he indeed, of the Godhead, which could not be, but of its manifestation, its glory. {2} 

These cults claim to do the very thing that even Jesus Christ did not do during His earthly ministry, though He was divine; they presume to seize their imagined equality with God and claim to work various signs through the power of the Holy Spirit. These blasphemous beliefs have resulted in experiential Christianity minus sound doctrine, a constant flow of false prophesies, false (manufactured) signs and fake healings.

Bethel/Hillsong Music

Churches are legally obliged to pay royalties to Bethel/Hillsong/Elevation under CCLI Agreements when they use their materials. Every time churches use these materials, they are not only monetizing these blasphemers, they are propagating their false theological system. By doing so, many church leaders are working to the detriment of the true faith and promoting a different Jesus, a different spirit and a different gospel. (2 Corinthians 11:4). Bethel/Hillsong materials are the snare that pulls unsuspecting believers into the NAR Antichrist heretical system. It should not be necessary to remind pastors and elders that their primary responsibility is to protect the flock, not to expose them to the wolves! (Titus 1:9).

Is Calvinism the Answer? 

Many are persuaded that Calvinist Justin Peters has his theology all sorted out, but the truth is that the Calvinist (Reformed) camp have crippling doctrinal errors in their own right. Not least of these is the despicable doctrine of limited atonement i.e. the belief that Jesus did not die for the sins of the whole world i.e. for everyone.. for all.. for whosoever is a wicked distortion of the scriptures. (John 3:16, 5:24). Calvinism's determinism diminishes the gospel of Jesus Christ and causes inestimable damage to many believers. The spiritual torment that many suffer under this heavy burden causes some to actually give up because they fail to find the answer to the question: How do I know absolutely that I am saved and part of the elect? Those believers of a sensitive disposition who find themselves ensnared in the Reformed camp are often tortured with the nagging doubt that they may be reprobate and not really elect. Determinism or "the secret will of God", based on Deuteronomy 29:29, defies a satisfactory answer, and so many are left in a swamp of hopelessness and despair. This is not God's will for believers! No Christian should allow this wicked doctrine to destroy their joy and peace in Jesus Christ. (Galatians 5:22).

The mantra of the Reformed camp is the Westminster Confession of Faith. 

The Westminster Confession: "God, from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of his own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass: yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin, nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established." (3.1)

Right Response Ministries: "Limited Atonement We believe that in the mercy and justice of God the Father, he was not willing to subjugate his Son to suffer under his wrath on behalf of those whom he had not decreed to save. We affirm that Christ freely laid down his life for all of his sheep who are promised to hear his voice and respond to his call. Therefore, not a single drop of Christ’s blood will ever be found to have been wasted in Hell. (Luke 19:10, John 6:35-40, John 10:11-18, John 17:1-11, Romans 5:8-10, Colossians 1:21-22, Galatians 3:13, Hebrews 9:12)" {3}  

Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. (John 5:24).

He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. (1 John 2:2).

Frankly I don't know which is worse, Charismania or Calvinism. Believers would do far better to reject both extremes and study the scriptures for themselves.  (Romans 16:17; 2 Timothy 2:15).

Blessed is the man who makes the LORD his trust, who does not turn to the proud, to those who go astray after a lie! (Psalm 40:4).

1. Strong's Greek: 725. ἁρπαγμός (harpagmos) -- the act of seizing or the thing seized (biblehub.com)
2. Philippians 2:7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness. (biblehub.com)
3. About | Right Response Ministries

DOREEN VIRTUE ~ SERVUS CHRISTI STRIKES AGAIN!

Once again, Servus Christi/Joshua Chavez leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth with his vicious attack on Justin Peters. In the original video (now removed), Chavez repeated the slander that Justin Peters approves of New Age visions and teachings. (2 Timothy 3:3). Doreen Virtue claims to have completely renounced the New Age Movement. {1} Although Chavez's attitude leaves a lot to be desired, his update does bring up some points of concern about Doreen Virtue that are not easily dismissed.

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Doreen Virtue Damage Control & Deception

Servus Chrisi ~ 13th May 2020

About Doreen Virtue:
"Doreen Virtue holds a B.A. and M.A. in Counseling Psychology from Chapman University. She is the author of many books, including the daily devotional, “Mornings with the Lord” and “Sweet Dreams Scripture,” and the “Loving Words from Jesus Cards.” Her newest book, “The Joy of Jesus,” is available as a free ebook download at bit.ly/TheJoyofJesus – This book tells the story of why Doreen converted from new age to Christianity. The book is also available in paperback on amazon. Raised in the new age, Doreen had a profound vision of Jesus on January 7, 2017 that led to her getting baptized and converting to Christianity. During the entire year of 2018, she led a daily online Bible support and encouragement group on Instagram Live, and on Vimeo. She is now enrolled in full-time Bible study, as learning and applying the Word of God is her highest priority." {2}

Doreen is a relatively new believer (?) who claims to have come to faith in 2017. Unfortunately she has fallen foul of the grievous error of Calvinism. Assuming that Doreen is a genuine Christian, it is far too soon to be launching herself into the public domain as a person of influence or to consider becoming a teacher.

Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness. (James 3:1).

Regarding overseers: He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. (1 Timothy 3:6).

I know from my own bitter experience in charismania that it takes time, often years, to rid oneself of the errors of false Antichrist systems masquerading as Christianity, and I include Calvinism in that classification. Calvinism is a form of philosophy that deceptively embeds error into the scriptures. In addition, many Calvinists (e.g. John MacArthur) teach the dangerous false pre-trib rapture doctrine and the "once saved always saved" error. New believers are a vulnerable target for Satan. (2 Corinthians 11:14). Another issue for me is that Doreen Virtue is probably not her real name.* I do not see anyone in the scriptures going by another name. My advice to Doreen: Pull back from what you are doing and study the scriptures independently of the Calvinists. (2 Timothy 2:15).

Like newborn infants, long for the pure spiritual milk, that by it you may grow up into salvation— (1 Peter 2:2).

UPDATE:

Both Doreen Virtue and Justin Peters have responded to Joshua Chavez's accusations (links below). These responses appear to confirm that Doreen has renounced anything New Age. I would reiterate that if Doreen is a genuine Christian (?) then she is relatively young in the Lord. As such she should stay out of the public domain until she becomes more mature. It is a humiliating thing to make ones mistakes so publicly, if indeed this was a mistake. I am still unclear why Doreen left certain material on her website that should have been removed long ago. Although I would like to give Doreen the benefit of the doubt, there are some inconsistencies surrounding her testimony that do not add up. I do not endorse Joshua Chavez, but in this particular instance, I have to agree that Doreen Virtue is either extremely confused or that she is a false teacher.

Doreen Virtue Damage Control Deceiver
https://www.bitchute.com/video/oiE4gLfdv7Hh/?fbclid=IwAR09P22Gd3IavfSrE9ApBW1DASMvlBB0GgKOOpF9r95IaLRAg26qoWBWczo

Doreen answers questions about her testimony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34F4VdZwdAU&t=1146s

Justin Peters: My Response to Joshua Chavez Proverbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-pTsqKrlUU&t=6334s


* https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=servus%20christi&epa=SEARCH_BOX

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d4ZrPVrbII

2. https://doreenvirtue.com/about-doreen-virtue/
3. https://www.westernsem.edu/

Further Links:

Doreen Virtue Bio, Age, Husband, Family, Books, Education And Net worth

https://informationcradle.com/doreen-virtue/

Doreen Virtue Promotes Steve Bancarz Chris Rosebrough Exposes Steve Bancarz Luther and Calvin Xpose
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OqN3gEPj5ow&t=503s

JUSTIN PETERS SKEWS REPENTANCE

Justin Peters Contradicts Himself on Repentance - Can We Repent or Not? - Calvinism EXPOSED -

The above video contains clips of Justin Peters' perplexing statements about repentance.

On the one hand, Peters claims, "repentance is a work, but it is not our work", while on the other hand, he pleads with non-Christians to "repent and place your trust in Christ". 

Peters: "In order to be saved, we would turn around and tell people they had to repent, which seemed to me to be doing a work...

I thought that repentance was something that I did, I thought it was something that I had to gen up within myself; I had to will myself to turn from certain sins.. 

The fundamental truth and teaching from scripture is that we can't repent on our own.

I want you to be truly broken over your sin, truly broken. I want you to cast yourself onto the mercies of Christ.

If you come to Him grieving over your sin because you understand that your sin grieves God and you understand the weight of the reproach that you have brought upon Christ, and the weight of how many people you have led astray in the name of Christ. If that bears heavy on you, and I hope and pray that it does, come to Christ empty-handed.. He will save you.

Turn from sin and place your faith in Christ.."

The horror of Reformed (Calvinist) theology is the teaching that God arbitrarily puts His mercy on very few people (the elect), and that the vast majority of humanity cannot be saved because they are not granted repentance. This false doctrine is a direct attack on the very nature of God and the gospel.

Peters' strained understanding is that repentance qualifies as a work: "you have to do something". In the scriptures, "work" (ἔργον) refers to action. (Romans 3:27-28; Galatians 2:16; 2 Timothy 1:9). "ἔργον comes from a primary ergo; toil; by implication, an act."1 The verb "repentance" μετανοέω is to change one's mind or purpose. A contrast between work and faith is emphasised in the scriptures. (Romans 4:1-3). Romans 4:5 debunks the false assumption that faith is a work: And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness.. Calvinism piles error upon error and contradicts the scriptures by teaching that regeneration precedes faith. (Acts 16:31).

"Strong’s Greek 3340 describes the decisive, Spirit-wrought turning of heart and mind that re-orients a person from sin to God. Throughout the New Testament it is never presented as mere remorse but as a wholehearted response to divine truth that issues in faith, obedience, and fruit worthy of repentance."2 

The scriptures are very straightforward and do not include the convoluted teachings of Calvinism. The Calvinist view of total inability, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace, and perseverance of the saints (TULIP) is presented in a way that appears wise and intellectual, but in actuality is a false ideology based on Augustinian soteriology that is incompatible with the true gospel of Jesus Christ. (Colossians 2:23). Augustine was deeply influenced by his early encounters with Stoicism, Neoplatanism, and Manichaeism. While he initially opposed deterministic ideology, Augustine incorporated elements of these philosophies into his debates with the Pelagians. Predestination and predeterminism became foundational for Augustine's theological development, and his influence on John Calvin (1509-1565) is beyond doubt. Calvin incorporated Augustinian philosophical ideas into his version of soteriology and divine providence. This has resulted in a huge swathe of the church being obliged to perform scriptural acrobatics that many find totally bewildering. Calvinism muddies the waters and puts a stumbling block in the way of those seeking salvation. 

Simply put, the scriptures command all people everywhere to repent.

 

The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent.. (Acts 17:30).

Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.. (Acts 3:19).

This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. (1 Timothy 2:3-4).

The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. (2 Peter 3:9).

Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord GOD, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live? (Ezekiel 18:23).

For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Lord GOD; so turn, and live." (Ezekiel 18:32 cf. Job 36:9-12; Proverbs 1:23-33; Isaiah 1:19-20; Jeremiah 7:23-24; Deuteronomy 30:15-20; Ezekiel 18:30-32).

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. (John 3:16).

For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people.. (Titus 2:11).

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you were not willing! (Matthew 23:37).

The Spirit and the Bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price. (Revelation 22:17).

He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. (1 John 2:2).

God is not absent from repentance; the Holy Spirit convicts unbelievers of sin.

And when He comes, He will convict the world in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment" (John 16:8 cf. Acts 2:37).

God does not compel anyone to repent. People can resist the Holy Spirit and refuse to repent. This refusal is due to sin itself i.e. pride, stubbornness, and love for sin, which blinds individuals to the truth and grace offered by God. ..and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 2 Thessalonians 2:10 cf. 

Calvinist proof text 2 Timothy 2:24-26

And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will. 

Calvinism distorts the basic lexical meaning of Greek words. The verb "grant" δίδωμι (to give in various senses).3 Alternative words are confer or bestow. Irresistible grace is not taught in the scriptures; on the contrary, people can resist the Holy Spirit. (Acts 6:1.0; 7:51-55). When a knighthood is conferred upon someone by the king, they must be willing to accept it. In other words, when God grants or confers repentance upon a person, they must be willing to receive it. (2 Peter 3:9; 1 Timothy 2:4; Ezekiel 18:23). God does not override our free will. No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.” (Luke 13:5). 

1. Strong's Greek: 2041. ἔργον (ergon) -- Work, deed, action, task, labor
2. Strong's Greek: 3340. μετανοέω (metanoeó) -- Repent
3. Strong's Greek: 1325. δίδωμι (didómi) -- To give, to grant, to bestow

WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: JUSTIN PETERS: SEXUAL SIN IS NEVER FULLY BLOTTED OUT - REALLY?

NEPHILIM NONSENSE? JUSTIN PETERS, JIM OSMAN, DANIEL LONG

Airbnb “Prophets” Compare the Virgin Birth to Alien Encounters: With Justin Peters and Jim Osman

"Charismatic "prophets" Mike Signorelli, Joseph Z, Alan DiDio, and others claim they were called to a secret meeting in the middle of nowhere — phones on airplane mode, assumed identities, the works — to be briefed on coming "alien disclosure" and save the church from deception. But what came out of that meeting may be some of the most blasphemous teachings we've ever covered on this channel, including a direct comparison between the Virgin Birth of Christ and fallen angels having relations with women. Justin Peters and Jim Osman join me to expose the secret meeting, dismantle the bad theology behind the Nephilim/alien hybrid claims, address Joseph Z's failed "prophecy" over Joni Lamb, and explain why none of this — biblically, theologically, or even scientifically — holds up. If you're a former Charismatic trying to think clearly about all the alien talk flooding social media right now, this episode is for you."

Above is the response from Justin Peters, Jim Osman, and Daniel Long to the recent claim that a “secret meeting” occurred in an Airbnb in Tennessee involving Mike Signorelli, Joseph Z, Alan DiDio, and others. In my assessment, their claim was an attempt at self-aggrandisement and clickbait that happened to gain traction. I agree with Justin Peters that, in their foolishness, charismatic NAR “pastors” often attempt to present themselves as possessing superior spiritual knowledge, in this case, insider knowledge on alleged “alien disclosure”. The accumulated failure of charismatic NAR prophets is sufficient to demonstrate that they are neither credible nor reliable sources of spiritual authority. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. (Romans 16:17-18).

Even so, I found several of the remarks made by Justin Peters, Jim Osman, and Daniel Long disappointing. Both Calvinist and Lutheran traditions hold amillennial beliefs that diverge sharply from the scriptural witness and from the eschatology of the early church. Amillennialism remains confined within an Augustinian Roman‑Catholic inheritance rather than engaging in the whole counsel of God, resulting in an eschatology that is scripturally and historically deficient. (Acts 20:27).

Although I reject DiDio and his associates ' claim of a “secret meeting" it is not impossible that government agencies might share information with certain church leaders. Osman’s categorical assertion that such cooperation would never occur is therefore not especially convincing. One could just as easily ask why Donald Trump includes NAR‑charismatics within his inner circle—an arrangement that many Christians find difficult to make sense of. And if any weight is given to Andy Woods’ testimony, who claims that a government agent approached him in 2024 regarding UFO disclosure.1 

While Peters, Osman, and Long dismiss the prospect of alien disclosure, it is noteworthy that the U.S. Department of War treats the subject with sufficient seriousness to release a growing body of declassified UFO (UAP) documentation.

U.S. Department of War: "In response to President Donald J. Trump’s directive for transparency on U.S. government information regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), the Department of War (DOW), with support from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), is overseeing government wide efforts to expeditiously find, review, identify, declassify and publicly release unresolved UAP-related records and historical documents in the federal government’s possession. This is an unprecedented, historic undertaking that requires coordination between dozens of agencies and the review of tens of millions of records, many existing only on paper, spanning many decades. Given the scope of this task, the Department of War will be releasing new materials on a rolling basis as they are discovered and declassified, with tranches posted every few weeks.."2 

The Gerasene Demoniac discussion

Matthew 8:28–34; Mark 5:1–20; Luke 8:26–39 cf. Matthew 12:43

Osman’s treatment of the Gerasene (Gadarene) narrative is methodologically weak. His question—why the demons did not simply relocate to another host elsewhere in Judea to avoid Jesus—is hypothetical. The popular “demon‑slayer” assertion that demons seek human bodies to gratify their own lusts has no textual foundation. Scripture does not provide a behavioural psychology of demons, and responsible exegesis does not fill those silences with speculative constructions. However, Osman’s corrective claim that demons “do not like to be in an embodied form" is inaccurate according to reliable commentaries on Matthew 12:43. The New Testament’s actual data is limited but consistent: demons harm, degrade, and afflict. Their activity is destructive rather than expressive. (Matthew 9:32–34; Mark 3:20–27; 5:9,14–29). Nothing in these passages indicates that demons pursue embodiment to satisfy their own lustful appetites; rather, the pattern is impairment, torment, and attempted destruction.

If Osman intends to correct doctrinal error, the task requires him to remain within the boundaries of what scripture records rather than constructing hypothetical demon behaviour to fill the explanatory gap. This was a weak and poorly reasoned response from someone presenting himself as a pastor, and it reflects a limited grasp of demonology. His inaccuracies and unfounded assertions place him much closer to those he critiques than he seems to realise. The task is to present what is true in order to correct what is false, not to substitute one set of personal opinions for another.     

Bengel's Gnomon: "Matthew 12:43. Ὅταν, κ.τ.λ., when, etc.) Having rebuked and dismissed the interruption of the Pharisees, Jesus pursues those matters which depend upon Matthew 12:30; cf. Luke 11:23-24.—ἐξέλθῃ, has gone out) as had been said in Matthew 12:29.—διέρχεται, he goeth through) one after another.—ἀνύδρων, without water) Where there is no water, men do not dwell; see Psalm 107:35-36.—ἀναπαύσιν, rest) Rest is wished for by every created being. The devils think that man is their proper resting-place.—οὐχ εὑρίσκει, findeth none) sc. except in man. It is miserable always to seek and never to find it."3

Study Bible: "The unclean spirit's search for rest indicates its desire for a place to inhabit and exert influence. In the cultural context of the time, spirits were believed to seek embodiment to fulfill their purposes."4

Barnes: "Art thou come hither to torment us? ... - By 'the time' here mentioned is meant the day of judgment. The Bible reveals the doctrine that evil spirits are not now bound as they will be after that day; that they are permitted to tempt and afflict people, but that in the day of judgment they also will be condemned to everlasting punishment with all the wicked, 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 1:6. These spirits seemed to be apprised of that, and were alarmed lest the day that they feared had come. They besought him, therefore, not to send them out of that country, not to consign them then to hell, but to put off the day of their final punishment."5 

Barnes: "Seeking rest, and findeth none - These desolate and dry regions are represented as uncomfortable habitations; so much so, that the dissatisfied spirit, better pleased with a dwelling in the bosoms of people, as affording an opportunity of doing evil, seeks a return there."6  

The Nephilim question

Genesis 6:4 presents the contested identification of the “sons of God”, whether as the Sethite line or as angelic beings whose union with human women produced the Nephilim. The evidence is sparse but adequate to justify inquiry into the involvement of fallen angels. The designation Nephilim—“fallen ones”—identifies them as obscure figures tied to the pre‑flood narrative. 

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. (Genesis 6:4).

And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them.” (Numbers 13:33).

The Anakim are identified in Deuteronomy 9:2 and Joshua 11:21–22 as a race of giants, noted for their exceptional size and strength, whose presence in Canaan seriously intimidated the Israelite spies. Their association with the Nephilim suggests a formidable lineage. Archaeological and textual indications place the Anakim in the hill country of Hebron, a strategically significant and fertile region. I am not dogmatic on the matter, but I see no difficulty in understanding the Anakim as literal hybrids rather than merely human“men of renown”. The Old Testament contains sufficient references to the physical disimilarities between the giants and other populations to render this interpretation credible—for example, Goliath (1 Samuel 17:4; 2 Samuel 21:19), his brothers Lahmi, Ishbi‑Benob, Saph, and the six‑fingered giant (1 Chronicles 20:5; 2 Samuel 21:16, 18, 20), as well as Og king of Bashan (Deuteronomy 3:11). Viewed this way, the Old Testament's depiction of Canaan's inhabitants makes the severity of the genocidal conquest commands more intelligible. (Deuteronomy 20:16-17). It also makes sense of Jude 1:6 and the connection with Sodom and Gomorrah and the pre-flood narrative, which is replicated in the days leading up to the Parousia. (Luke 17:26). 

Regarding the argument that when God created everything "after its kind" in Genesis 1:25. This is a descriptive narrative of creation, not a violation of it. The existence of a divine design does not preclude transgression of that design.

The appeal to Matthew 22:30 ("angels do not marry nor are given in marriage”) does not resolve the question of Genesis 6, because the two passages address different categories and different contexts.

Contextual Scope of Matthew 22:30 > Jesus’ statement concerns the marital status of resurrected humans and uses angels as a comparative model. The passage is not intended as an ontological description of angelic capacities but as a functional description of their heavenly mode of existence.

Heavenly Angels vs Fallen Angels > Matthew 22:30 refers specifically to angels “in heaven”. Genesis 6 and Jude 6 describe angels who “did not keep their own domain”. The texts therefore concern different angelic states, and conclusions drawn from one cannot be automatically transferred to the other.

Marriage vs Procreation > The argument assumes that the inability to marry entails the inability to procreate. This is a category error. The text states that angels do not marry; it does not state that they lack the capacity to assume physical form capable of biological interaction.

Embodiment in the Old Testament > Multiple Old Testament narratives depict angels taking embodied form indistinguishable from human males. (Genesis 18–19). These accounts demonstrate that angels can assume physicality with functional human characteristics.

Second Temple Interpretation > Jewish literature of the Second Temple period—including 1 Enoch, Jubilees, Philo, and Josephus—consistently interpreted Genesis 6 as referring to angelic beings. This indicates that Matthew 22:30 was not understood as contradicting that reading.

Jude 6–7 and Boundary Violation > Jude links the sin of the angels to Sodom’s pursuit of “strange flesh”, suggesting a transgression involving sexual boundaries. This intertextual connection supports the reading that Genesis 6 involves an illicit crossing of created categories

Justin Peters and his colleagues' abrupt dismissal of the substantial body of material concerning Nephilim hybrids simply exposes their predisposition to reject anything that even marginally challenges their established worldview. I do, of course, agree that none of this is vaguely relevant to the incarnation of Jesus Christ.

In conclusion, scripture indicates that the closing phase of this age will involve spiritual deception on a scale without precedent. The exact form this deception will take is not disclosed, but it would be unwarranted to dismiss unusual claims outright. The Antichrist will present a counterfeit resurrection, and God Himself will send a strong delusion. Because biblical prophecy is interpreted literally throughout scripture, Revelation should not be treated as an exception. Within that eschatological framework, the range of possible end‑time manifestations should not be reduced or denied through allegorisation. Jesus issued a specific warning so that believers would not be caught off guard: “See, I have told you beforehand.” (Matthew 24:25).

The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie, in order that judgment may come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness. (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12).

Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived. And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666. (Revelation 13:11-18).  

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2. Presidential Unsealing and Reporting System for UAP Encounters | U.S. Department of War
3. Matthew 12:43 Commentaries: "Now when the unclean spirit goes out of a man, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and does not find it.
4. Matthew 12:43 Study Bible: But the unclean spirit, when he is gone out of the person, passes through waterless places, seeking rest, and does not find it.
5. Matthew 8:29 Commentaries: And they cried out, saying, "What business do we have with each other, Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?"
6. Matthew 12:43 Commentaries: "Now when the unclean spirit goes out of a man, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and does not find it.

DOREEN VIRTUE'S VISION OF JESUS EXAMINED

Doreen on Instagram Live answering FAQ’s about her new book

27th July 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDfblhEk32E&t=120s

Former New Age teacher and top selling author Doreen Virtue's conversion to Christianity followed what she describes as "a vision of Jesus" on January 7th 2017 while she was attending an Episcopal Church. There are a number of troubling anomalies concerning Doreen's alleged vison. Unfortunately Doreen has recently removed all traces of the vision from her website and also from YouTube, leaving us with the difficulty of fact checking her recent statements. The only available source material I could find that has not been removed is a PDF of her book The Joy Of Jesus {1} 

Below is an account of Doreen's vision from The Joy Of Jesus published in 2018:

"And standing, or rather hovering, in front of me was Jesus himself. My eyes were open, and I was one-hundred percent sober. I’ve had spiritual visions throughout my life, but this was more real and all-encompassing. I wasn’t just seeing. I was in the experience. It’s difficult to put what happened into words, but I’ll try: His presence filled my entire eyesight. His arms were outstretched like he was inviting me to him as a “Welcome home” to a prodigal child. His facial features looked middle Eastern, with a brown tone, dark brown wavy shoulder-length hair, and brown eyes. And his heart! His heart was shining these rays of light in all directions, huge bright pulsating beams of light. I could ; 61 ; The Light That Saved Me feel the light beams affecting me, and at one point I felt pushed back in my chair. The light was both dazzling and dizzying. I felt so loved and happy, and yet a part of me was observing the experience and feeling confused. What did this mean? How could this be happening? Yet it was all so real! And Jesus was real! I’m sure my jaw was dropped because His presence completely floored me. I have no idea how long He was there.." The Joy Of Jesus  p 60-61 

Doreen has recently revised her conversion testimony and she now insists repeatedly that she was not converted until late 2017 after she had read the entire bible. However, this date does not withstand close scrutiny. In her book The Joy of Jesus she makes a number of statements that inextricably connect her conversion to the vision she received on the 7th of January:

"I had a life-changing vision of Jesus while at church on January 7, 2017. When I saw Jesus, I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that everything written about him in the Bible was real and true. I also fell so deeply in love with Jesus, that I was willing to change my whole life to follow him." (p 9)

Doreen's vision is described in chapter ten of The Joy Of Jesus. This chapter is entitled The Light That Saved Me. (p 59)

"In my experience, it became clear that Jesus is the Son of God, part of the Holy Trinity. Remember that prior to this experience, I revered Jesus as an 'ascended master.' Yet in that moment of seeing him, I knew that Jesus is Lord." (p 61)

"I was now one-hundred percent following Jesus.. I fell head-over-heels in love with Jesus that day (the day of her vision). I was willing to do whatever it took to be with him.. The experience was beyond real. It was Him .. The fruits of my experience showed me that I genuinely saw a vision of Jesus of Nazareth. (p 62)

Doreen was baptized in the Episcopal Church on February 25th 2017 just over a month after her vision. Baptism is a puzzling step for a person who claims that she was not converted until much later that year. Doreen appears to be engaging in damage control by distancing herself from her vision and any connection it has to her conversion. (Proverbs 10:9).

 

Doreen claims to have had visions since she was a child, and in particular, she claims to have had visions of Jesus since she was a teenager. However, according to Doreen, this particular vision was different in that Jesus was "real".  Although I am not a cessationist, I am extremely wary of anyone who claims to have seen a vision or had an encounter of this kind. (John 20:29; Acts 1:11). Biblically visions of God are extremely rare, being limited to certain OT prophets (Isaiah 6:1; Ezekiel 1:1; 2), possibly the Apostle Paul (2 Corinthians 12:2-3) and John the Revelator. (Revelation 1:12-16). We do not see people being converted by visions in the scriptures. The Great Commission is the instruction given by the resurrected Jesus to his disciples to spread the gospel to all the nations of the world. (Matthew 28:16-20). Jesus words to Thomas: “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” (John 20:29 cf. Romans 10:17). 

During an interview with Justin Peters, Doreen seemed to agree with his rejection of her vision and accompanying epiphany as demonic. However, she has now decided that Lutheran Pastor Chris Rosebrough's explanation is the correct one.  

On July 17th 2020 Chris Rosebrough (Fighting For The Faith) explained to Doreen what he deduced had happened regarding the vision. Rosebrough explanation is that Doreen had two separate simultaneous events i.e. the vision was from the devil or a demon appearing as Jesus, and the epiphany was from the Lord. I find this a rather doubtful explanation in that Doreen claims that the vision and the epiphany were integral simultaneous events. Rosebrough has produced Isaiah 55:10-11 as a proof text for his explanation. 

The devil may indeed challenge or attempt to confuse some insight or revelation that we have received from the Lord after the event. However, it seems unlikely that Jesus would permit a revelation from Himself to be simultaneously laced with demonic activity. In the scriptures, genuine revelations and visions from the Lord are uncontaminated by the devil or demons. As others have observed, Doreen's vision of Jesus excluded the marks of the crucifixion and was suspiciously akin to Roman Catholic Sacred Heart/Divine Mercy idolatry as opposed to any biblical sightings of Him after the resurrection. Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe. (John 20:27).

Doreen Virtue Canvas Print
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John's vision of Jesus on Patmos:

I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day.. Then I turned to see the voice that was speaking to me, and on turning I saw seven golden lampstands, and in the midst of the lampstands one like a son of man, clothed with a long robe and with a golden sash around his chest. The hairs of his head were white, like white wool, like snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire, his feet were like burnished bronze, refined in a furnace, and his voice was like the roar of many waters. In his right hand he held seven stars, from his mouth came a sharp two-edged sword, and his face was like the sun shining in full strength. (Revelation 1:1,12-16 cf. Revelation 1:10  cf. Revelation 4:2;,17:3, 21:10).

Doreen's misplaced confidence in Chris Rosebrough and Justin Peters 

Doreen says that some "solid teachers" came alongside her, and (amongst others) she names Justin Peters and Chris Rosebrough. As nice as Justin Peters is, I consider him to be deceived by the perverted doctrines of Calvinism. I have previously outlined the considerable heresies held by Lutheran pastor Chris Rosebrough including ~ infant baptism, baptismal regeneration, consubstantiation, amillennialism, confession to a priest etc. {2} Rosebrough also subscribes to the false Calvinist doctrines of predestination and cessationism. The doctrine of cessationism (the denial of the gifts of the Holy Spirit) was formulated within Calvinism during the Reformation as a reaction against Roman Catholic miracles. With the exception of Calvinism, continuationism generally remained the default doctrine within Protestantism. (Proverbs 30:5-6). For Doreen to regard Chris Rosebrough and Justin Peters "solid teachers" is in itself an indication of her unstable spiritual condition. 

Doreen has reversed her previous role as a prominent teacher of the New Age and has now become a prominent adversary of the New Age. However this self-appointed role within the Body of Christ is discharged minus her husband who is conspicuous by his absence. The New Testament model is for the husband and wife to serve the Lord together. (Genesis 2:18; Acts 18:26). Doreen assures us that she does not teach theology. However, having listened to her recent material and having read parts of her new book, this is not the case. Her role as a writer/broadcaster frequently bleeds into interpreting the scriptures, albeit that she is not teaching mixed congregations and does not have authority over men. (1 Timothy 2:12 cf. James 3:1). Not long after her conversion, Doreen assumed the role of an expert spiritual adviser, whereas in reality nothing was further from the truth:

The synopsis on the back cover of The Joy Of Jesus reads: "You’ll read about ways to combat spiritual warfare, how to discern whether spirits are from God or not, the scriptural teachings about angels, healing from guilt, and much more." {3} 

After Doreen was challenged by a friend about the errors contained within The Joy of Jesus, it was withdrawn. In her own words: "I wrote this book called The Joy of Jesus.. I included things in there that I now know could cause some to stumble.. I took it down just because it wasn't right."  

Should certain Christian "mentors" continue to indulge Doreen and cut her some slack because she is a relatively new believer? Doreen squeals that she is "a baby Christian" when her errors are found out. However after three years, this excuse begins to wear rather thin. (1 Corinthians 3:1-3). It is unscriptural for someone so immature in the faith and so deeply confused to be churning out "Christian" material which has to be either withdrawn or fundamentally altered at a later date. By default a confused "baby Christian" is disqualified from interpreting the scriptures and teaching, even in a limited capacity. (1 Timothy 3:6). In essence Doreen has adopted an antinomian New Age "do your own thing" attitude to her present situation rather than following the scriptures.

It is inconceivable for any true Christian to knowingly peddle faulty material that will be a stumbling block to the Body of Christ. However, that is precisely what Doreen has done. Doreen allowed her publication Deceived No More to proceed with the offending vision because its withdrawal would have caused problems with her publishers Thomas Nelson. And so the first edition of the book was published on the July 28th 2020 complete with Jesus vision. For such a book to be published after Doreen realized that her vision was highly suspect is appalling. Even though Deceived No More was at a late stage of publication, Doreen had a window of opportunity in which to withdraw the book. Almost immediately after the book was published, Doreen rapidly amended Chapter 9. {4} However, the original book remains in circulation. This book should have been withdrawn immediately the questionable nature of her vision was discovered no matter what the cost or inconvenience. Doreen's frequent apologies and prevarications on this subject cut no ice. {5}

To obey is better than sacrifice.. (1 Samuel 15:22 cf. Jeremiah 7:23; Acts 5:32).

Doreen seems to have an answer for everything: "I know all about the apostle Paul going away for three years, I know all about how he stayed away before teaching. I got it..  BUT I....."  If Doreen is not prepared to submit to the scriptures, then she will have a very difficult time as a Christian and she risks a great deal!  (1 Samuel 15:9; Revelation 3:19).

Doreen employs various illegitimate strategies and reverts to worldly tactics in an attempt to dissuade her detractors from exposing her errors. (Romans 8:5).

Such strategies include labelling her critics "gossips" "slanderers" and "haters".  Doreen: "Its been a rough season with a lot of slander and accusations coming against me .. its been hurtful for me too and  to hear people gossiping behind my back.. its been a lot of hate."  On a video with Engage Truth she says: "Don't gossip about me, don't slander me, come tell me that I'm not supposed to do this or that." {6} This would be to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted! It is well known that I am no supporter of either Jacob Prasch or Joshua Chavez. However, having listened carefully to Chavez's video Apostasy Report - Doreen Virtue Is Still Deceived, I cannot find anything to disagree with, although I cannot judge his motives. {7}    

Doreen can't expect to brush her various public errors and contradictions under the carpet and escape the repercussions. Biblically, public errors should be addressed in the open since their harmful effects are likely to have negatively impacted vulnerable members of the Body of Christ. On the other hand, personal private sins against individuals should (initially) be tackled privately: If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother.. (Matthew 18:15)  It should be noted that Paul openly denounced certain false teachers by name. (1 Timothy 1:19-20; 2 Timothy 4:14; 3 John 1:9-10 etc.) Paul was no gossip, the gospel was at stake! Apparently Doreen expects the Christian community to make her an exception to the rule because she is "a baby Christian". (2 Corinthians 13:10). 

Another strategy Doreen employs to silence her detractors is to threaten them with lawsuits. "God told me that I am finally going to start initiating lawsuits.. and to defamation and libel and slander, and I am going to win. Everyone who has got these videos about me and blogs about me that they are making money off, my lawyers are going to go after them and it is just righteous anger.." {7} This is utter nonsense. (1 Corinthians 6:7; Matthew 5:39).

I also hope that Doreen now understands the principle of Fair Use now that it has been fully explained to her. "Fair use is a doctrine in the law of the United States that permits limited use of copyrighted material without having to first acquire permission from the copyright holder."  {8}

In her own words Doreen says: "I am kind of a goofball anyway without a filter, so I have embarrassed myself more times than I can even count." The dictionary definition of goofball is a naïve or stupid person. (Matthew 15:18; Proverbs 4:5-6). 

The blunders that Doreen continues to make whilst at the same time claiming that she is "no longer deceived" are potentially lethal to the body of Christ. Not only that, these blunders leave both her and her mentors open to public ridicule as we have recently witnessed. Doreen seems to be repenting every five minutes for avoidable errors that would not have occurred if she had followed the scriptural pattern for new believers. Yes ~ there is forgiveness for our sins, and yes ~ we all make mistakes. However, there is also a place for godly rebuke. (Titus 1:9). The proper course of action for a godly mentor would be to counsel Doreen to stand down from the public domain until such time as she becomes mature in the faith. Instead however, various pastors and teachers are only too happy to promote Doreen by appearing on her videos. These teachers are culpable for the mess that has arisen from Doreen's vision and other issues. 

In conclusion, several things about Doreen's conversion testimony and her subsequent actions are unscriptural. If Doreen is a genuine Christian, then I believe that the Lord will put severe obstacles in her way if she persists in churning out false material. (Hebrews 12:6). Any reputation that Doreen may have gained amongst the true Body of Christ will be in tatters, if it is not already. 

Ironically, the most staggering thing Doreen says at the end of this video is that she has turned off the comments on her YouTube page because peoples responses could cause a stumbling block that might lead to some false teachings!! 😮 

And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers, to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ, until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ, so that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in deceitful schemes. (Ephesians 4:11-14).

Doreen Virtue's Jesus Lights Healing Meditation 

https://www.facebook.com/DoreenVirtueForJesus/videos/1409129675795006/

1. file:///C:/Users/treen/Downloads/The%20Joy%20Of%20Jesus%20by%20Doreen%20Virtue%20(z-lib.org).pdf

2. https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2020/07/chris-rosebrough-fighting-for-faith.html  3. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Joy-Jesus-Doreen-Virtue/dp/0692125965
4. https://doreenvirtue.com/2020/07/22/free-updated-chapter-9-of-deceived-no-more/
5. https://doreenvirtue.com/2020/06/01/why-did-doreen-remove-her-testimony/
6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkD-_BVL-2M

7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjRXaGltHLI&t=1487s
9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#:~:text=Fair%20use%20is%20a%20doctrine,permission%20from%20the%20copyright%20holder.

JUSTIN PETERS: MORE DOUBLE TALK!

 (21) Is There A Calvinist Conspiracy Against Christmas, Charlie Brown? - YouTube

“Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace among those with whom he is pleased!” (Luke 2:14). 
Footnote: "Some manuscripts peace, good will among men."

Justin Peters gives a comprehensive exposition of the Greek phrase ἀνθρώποις εὐδοκία/εὐδοκίας in Luke 2:14. Brian (Faith on Fire) has some very questionable views at times.{1} Even Calvin did not relate this verse to limited atonement. 

Calvin: "Which shall be to all the people Though the angel addresses the shepherds alone, yet he plainly states, that the message of salvation which he brings is of wider extent, so that not only they, in their private capacity, may hear it, but that others may also hear. Now let it be understood, that this joy was common to all people, because, it was indiscriminately offered to all. For God had promised Christ, not to one person or to another, but to the whole seed of Abraham. If the Jews were deprived, for the most part, of the joy that was offered to them, it arose from their unbelief; just as, at the present day, God invites all indiscriminately to salvation through the Gospel, but the ingratitude of the world is the reason why this grace, which is equally offered to all, is enjoyed by few. Although this joy is confined to a few persons, yet, with respect to God, it is said to be common. When the angel says that this joy shall be to all the people, he speaks of the chosen people only; but now that, the middle wall of partition" (Ephesians 2:14) has been thrown down, the same message has reference to the whole human race. [149] For Christ proclaims peace, not only, to them that are nigh, "but to them that are, far off," (Ephesians 2:17,) to "strangers" (Ephesians 2:12) equally with citizens. But as the peculiar covenant with the Jews lasted till the resurrection of Christ, so the angel separates them from the rest of the nations." {2} 

Peters continues to quote John 6:37-39 and he asserts that no amount of hermeneutical gymnastics can deny that God has His elect. At the same time he argues for man's responsibility and accountability in responding to the gospel. Peters does not refer to himself as a Calvinist and yet he does not deny it either.

According to Peters, the teaching that man has no responsibility is only true of hyper-Calvinists. Peters: "Hyper Calvinists are about as rare as bigfoot. I have travelled all over the world and I have met very few, maybe a handful, maybe two or three people that are true hyper-Calvinists.." 

I do not know what planet Peters has been on, but the irrefutable teaching of Calvinism is summed up in the acronym TULIP. Many pastors/teachers promote five-point Calvinism in their churches, including Peters' hero John MacArthur. This aberrant teaching is not limited to "two or three people".

• Total depravity. Human beings are dead in their sins, and they stand justly condemned before God, unable to do anything to save themselves.

• Unconditional election. From eternity, God in his sovereignty chose specific human beings to be saved. That salvation was determined entirely by God, not simply God’s foreknowledge of who would respond to his offer of grace.

• Limited atonement. Also known as “particular redemption,” the doctrine teaches the death of Jesus Christ was intended for the remission of the sins of elect human beings only; in other words, the intention of the atonement and its effects are the same.

• Irresistible grace. Many Calvinists prefer the term “effectual calling” to express this idea—God’s call to salvation will not fail to bring about the repentance and faith of the elect.

• Perseverance of the saints. This doctrine teaches all true believers in Christ will be saved because God grants them faith to persist to the end of life, and God will keep them safe.

Why does Peters think that Calvinism is so very controversial and that it is responsible for causing numerous church splits and pain to countless believers? 

Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will never drive away. For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day. For it is My Father’s will that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.” At this, the Jews began to grumble about Jesus because He had said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven.” They were asking, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How then can He say, ‘I have come down from heaven?’”“Stop grumbling among yourselves,” Jesus replied. “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day. (John 6:37-44).

Soteriology 101: "There are two basic ways to interpret this passage and it hinges on the words “draws” and “them.” Let’s look at the two renderings side by side:
Calvinists: 'No man can come to me unless the Father who sent me *drags* him, and I will raise up *him who was dragged* at the last day.'
Traditionalists: 'No man can come to me unless the Father who sent me *enables* him, and I will raise up *him who comes* at the last day.'
The Greek sentence structure allows for the author to be referencing 'them' who come, not necessarily all those drawn. For instance if the sentence translated in English were structured in this manner the intention might be more obvious:
'Only those drawn by the Father may come, and I will raise up them (those that come) at the last day..'” {3} 

 

1. WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING: FALSE PROPHETS AND BIBLE TEACHERS IN THE LAST DAYS: BRIAN (FAITH ON FIRE) CAN WE SEPARATE FAITH AND REPENTANCE? (bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com)
2. Luke 2 Calvin's Commentaries (biblehub.com)
3. JOHN 6:44 – SOTERIOLOGY 101