THE ARROGANCE OF BILL AND KRISTIN RANDLES

Bill Randles breaks the scriptures by his insistence on being called "Pastor Bill".

Reading the New Testament, I notice that even the apostles were known and were referred to primarily by their personal names. They sometimes referred to themselves as "servant of Jesus Christ", and they followed their name with their calling as "an apostle" small a.

Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God (2 Corinthians 1:1).
Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God.. (Romans 1:1).
Paul and Timothy, servants of Christ Jesus, (Philippians 1:1).

Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, (1 Peter 1:1).
James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, (James 1:1)

Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and brother of James, (Jude 1:1).
One afternoon Peter and John were going up to the temple at the hour of prayer.. (Acts 3:1).

The scriptures are clear enough surely:

For they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, 6and they love the place of honour at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues and greetings in the marketplaces and being called rabbi by others. But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ. The greatest among you shall be your servant. Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted. (Matthew 23:5-11).

I let Bill Randles first fallacious ad hominem remark pass when he called me a "feminist" on TBCKAWAII's video - Prasch Lynching Bill Randles {1} I simply responded by asking the question: Where is your evidence?

Predictably, Randles has now followed up his first insult by labelling me an "abusive reviler" along with others. {2}  Once again: Where is your evidence Bill Randles.. are you attempting to pass off ad hominem remarks as acceptable Christian practice? Once again, you break the scriptures by making accusations you are not prepared to back up with specific examples and facts. (2 Corinthians 13:1).

I have left a response on Randles recent blog post.. but I doubt that he will he publish it:

  
"I do object to being labelled a "very abusive railer" Bill.. you need to retract this insult? This is the second time you have made a false accusation against me, "feminist" being the first time.. I WOULD NOT DARE to make an accusation against a brother or sister in the Lord without citing the evidence! Do you forget that I have evidence of your wife's very abusive behaviour against David Nathan, albeit behind his back? As for Prasch's associations.. he is provably involved with proven false prophets/ecumenists David Noakes and Clifford Hill.. I do not think that you are a false teacher per se.. but you do seem to have some questionable associations and your arrogance is insupportable."

Having stated that Bill Randles is not a false teacher as far as doctrine is concerned, the personal behaviour of an elder/pastor is a critical factor for anyone in church leadership: Keep a close watch on yourself and on the teaching. Persist in this, for by so doing you will save both yourself and your hearers. (1 Timothy 4:16 cf. 1 Peter 2:1). Some translations have: Keep a close watch on your life and doctrine.. The Randles' habit of making unsubstantiated accusations and slandering their fellow believers is a very grave matter indeed, unacceptable in fact from people in their position.   

If I absolutely must expose a sample of the horrible behaviour of both Bill and Kristin Randles, then let it be so. The conversation I had with Kristin begs the question: Who actually is the reviler? I have not published this material previously because I wanted to spare David Nathan further pain. Please bear in mind that Kristin Randles said these things to me as a complete stranger.. I had no prior exchange with her prior to the communication below: 

  

Bill Randles responds to slander of Jacob Prasch and Moriel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jv8eJu3KbQ&t=215s
Bill Randles 2nd response to Moriel Board - Jacob Prasch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p74A2vFyG-o&feature=youtu.be

1. https://vimeo.com/345492408/comments?fbclid=IwAR373BDgexrFpmkg0QhXz8K9K6_NEwAw33PNTt0kRjPP6dZbPNtPWwG_rBU

2.  https://billrandles.wordpress.com/2019/10/08/to-the-moriel-board/

KRIS VALLOTTON'S EIGHT BLASPHEMOUS ESCHATOLIGICAL CORE VALUES

1. I will not embrace an end-time worldview that re-empowers a disempowered devil.

The beast was given a mouth to speak arrogant and blasphemous words, and authority to act for forty-two months. And the beast opened its mouth to speak blasphemies against God and to slander His name and His tabernacle—those who dwell in heaven.

Then the beast was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation. And all who dwell on the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life belonging to the Lamb who was slain. (Revelation 13:5-8).

2. I will not accept an eschatology that takes away my children’s future, and creates mindsets that undermine the mentality of leaving a legacy.

Whoever loves his life loses it, and whoever hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life. (John 12:25).

Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.” (John 18:36).

If in Christ we have hope in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied. (1 Corinthians 15:19).

..waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ, (Titus 2:13).

3. I will not tolerate any theology that sabotages the clear command of Jesus to make disciples of all nations and the Lord’s Prayer that earth would be like heaven.

Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. (Matthew 10:34).

For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. Matthew 24:21).

It was bright red, and its rider was granted permission to take peace from the earth and to make men slay one another. And he was given a great sword. (Revelation 6:4).

4. I will not allow any interpretation of the scriptures that destroys hope for the nations and undermines our command to restore ruined cities.

For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. (Matthew 24:7)

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed. (2 Peter 3:10).

From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty. (Revelation 19:15).

Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, Cruel, with fury and burning anger, To make the land a desolation; And He will exterminate its sinners from it. (Isaiah 13:9).

5. I will not embrace an eschatology that changes the nature of a good God.

Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God’s kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed. (Romans 2:4-5)

6. I refuse to embrace any mindset that celebrates bad news as a sign of the times and a necessary requirement for the return of Jesus.

As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. And you will hear of wars and rumours of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are but the beginning of the birth pains. (Matthew 24:3-8).

But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. (2 Timothy 3:1).

7. I am opposed to any doctrinal position that pushes the promises of God into a time zone that can’t be obtained in my generation and therefore takes away any responsibility I have to believe God for them in my lifetime.

Whoever loves his life loses it, and whoever hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life. (John 12:25).

8. I don’t believe that the last days are a time of judgment, nor do I believe God gave the church the right to call for wrath for sinful cities. There is a day of judgment in which GOD will judge man, not us.

He said, “Behold, I will make known to you what shall be at the latter end of the indignation, for it refers to the appointed time of the end. (Daniel 8:19).

And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulphur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshippers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”

Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. (Revelation 14:9-12).

The Thousand Years

Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain. And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.

Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshipped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.

The Defeat of Satan

And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulphur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Judgement Before the Great White Throne

Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:1-15).

https://www.krisvallotton.com/my-8-eschatological-core-values/

JOHN HALLER FELLOWSHIP BIBLE CHAPEL: PRASCH SPIN!

Below: an excerpt from a badly spelled text from John Haller regarding Joe Schimmel's appearance on GODTV.

As suspected, John Haller's relationship with the truth has been proved to be extremely wanting. Haller's animosity towards Tim Wirth is unmissable below, and his comment about Tim's "bad research" is totally false. Those associated with Fellowship Bible Chapel should be aware that Haller deals in half truths and is merely a spin doctor for false teacher and fake Jew Jacob Prasch (Moriel Ministries).

John Haller:

Here is what happened and someone with half a brain that is not interested in promoting himself would realize.
Prophecy in the New had a conference in 2016 at which Paul Maguire did a number of interviews. For example, here is a screen shot of Tommy Ice.
that is the set that PITN used at that conference
GOD TV was not even there
The video was somehow given or sold by PITN or Paul Maguire to GOD TV. I suspect it was PITN as they have beenn having severe financial problems
The GOD TV logo was added TWO YEARS LATER!!
He did not do a video for GOD TV
TIm is grossly misinformed
It is clear that the God TV logo was added later
These videos just magically appeared on GOD TV
Tim needs to remove his posts on the subject or I will expose what is, at best, bad research
Do you thin Tonmy Ice endorses GOD TV
Give me a break
Go to this page: youtube.com/user/GodTV/search?query=apocalypse
All of those videos come form the 2016 Pikes Peak Prophecy Conference
Are we to believe that all of those guys endorse GOD TV
Why did Tim pick Joe out of that lineup
His motives are self serving
All of those videos from two years ago appeared on GOD TV two months ago,. WHy?
If you knew, you would know that PITN is in desparate financial shape. They are selling stuff to GOD TV to make some money
I guarantee it
I know most of those guys in those videos. NOT ONE OF THEM, NOT ONE endorses GOD TV
The way to deal with this would be for me to message tim but since he has blocked me I cannot
So, if it is still there tomorrow, I'll deal with it and it will be pretty public and direct
Is that understood?
I will not tolerate a good guy like Joe Schimmel being slandered like this.
I'll check the page in the morning
But I'm sending all of this to Bob Mitchell tonight before I go to bed
So please copy this and send it to Tim
It is obvious that he is wrong which is why I deleted his original poist.

Chat Conversation End {1}

Good Fight Ministries:

It was also brought to our attention that John Haller attempted to defend Joe’s appearance on the show by explaining that we were ignorant of what network the interviews were going to be aired on. While we understand why John might come to this conclusion (considering it took almost 3 years to make Joe’s interviews available, while all the other speaker’s interviews showed up much, much sooner), that was only partially correct. John wasn’t being dishonest, but he simply didn’t have all of the facts. The temporary studio was put together at the conference in order to interview all of the participants. Joe was not very familiar with GodTV at the time, having never seen it and was not aware of the host’s associations (specifically, Rick Joyner). {2}

1. https://vimeo.com/360095057?ref=em-v-share

2. https://www.leftbehindorledastray.com/why-would-joe-schimmel-go-on-godtv/

So, was David Lister a minister who was addicted to heroin? ~ Tim Wirth

Posted on September 23, 2019 by Mike and Pat Rogers Closingstages

Thanks Tim for sharing this, our prayers are with you and for those still on the fence.
Blessings

Notice on this video about David Lister https://youtu.be/rsl–c0bifM (this link no longer works as the video was removed shortly after this was posted) where Lister states that he was a minister and after already being on the radio and taking on Brownsville/Toronto whenever he then met Jimmy Prasch. Well, take note that Lister, later on, states that Prasch helped him out of being addicted to heroin. What?? So, was Lister a minister who was addicted to heroin? In my last conversation with David Lister, he stated to me that he would “Do whatever it takes to  protect this ministry”. Lister is the guy behind the scenes that goes around sweeping up after Prasch has made a mess of things. Lister also isolates Prasch from most of the negative things that come into Moriel. Listers nickname is “The Politician”. And he is a pathological liar. David Lister in 2017 made 87,100 based on a 35-hour workweek. And that does not include his housing allowance and all travel and food paid for. So that’s a pretty sweet deal. It’s a real shame that Jackie Alnor was sworn to silence about David Lister’s fellowship shutting down because Lister plagiarized Warren Wiersbe and others. If that’s not cult-like what is? Plagiarism is no big deal to Moriel anyway seeing that Prasch makes no citations whatsoever in books allowing him to make things up or borrow from others. Lister continues to bear false witness against me to my friends and tries to drive wedges, but Haller has done this as well so …That’s what cults do. I am speaking up now not to address the lies that have been stated publicly about me by guys like Josh Chav but I just got tired of the spiritual bullying. Will this change the minds of most of the people following Moriel? Probably not because they have chosen to believe lies. A very scary place to be in the end times indeed. I hope to help people sitting on the fence. Just a side note. Prasch has spread it all around that Lister worked for Elvis… Funny thing because my mentor and friend the late great Hal Blaine used to play the drums for Elvis and he never heard of Lister. Did Lister have a different name at that time? I have no idea. So, I watched the Memphis mob documentary on Elvis’s small circle on the inside. And there was actually a guy who kinda looked like Lister. It was not Lister but I can see where the strange mind of Prasch may have constructed his story from. These guys need prayer folks lets never forget that. But the spiritual bullying and the abuse that Moriel does to the Body of Christ needs to stop. If Jackie Alnor refuses to step up that’s her privilege. But I cannot be silent anymore for the sake of others.

Blessings -Tim

PS follow the money on these guys that's where the real story is

To further understand how much of a cult Moriel is you need to read this article. I hope it opens peoples eyes. Cults can permanently damage people like I believe it did to Jacob
https://culteducation.com/group/1210-church-of-bible-understanding/21585-ex-members-tell-of-poverty-powerlessness.html

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JOHN HALLER AND JACOB PRASCH: THE RAPTURE QUESTION

Two prewrath rapture teachers will be speaking at the 2019 Columbus Bible Prophecy Conference hosted by Fellowship Bible Chapel between the 11-13th of October. Alan Kurschner (Eschatos Ministries), and Charles Cooper (founder and director of the Prewrath Resource Institute of Orlando). {1} This is (hopefully?) a definite step in the right direction for John Haller (pastor/elder of FBC), who has been very thick with Jacob Prasch (Moriel Ministries) in the past. Does this latest development signify cooling off in the relationship between Haller and Prasch, or will there be a further attempt to promote Prasch's rapture theory as a plausible variation of prewrath just prior to the Columbus Conference? Prasch was a speaker at FBC as recently as March of this year, and Haller will be a speaker at Moriel's Canadian Conference on the 4th and 5th of October.

The prewrath rapture position was developed by Robert Van Kampen during the 1970's. I am at a loss to understand why Jacob Prasch is in denial about this fact. Prasch gives all the credit for prewrath to those who cannot legitimately take the credit for it i.e. Tregelles (misspelled "Tregellas/Tregallis") and CS Lovett. {2} In fact, Tregelles was post-tribulational and had nothing whatsoever to do with the development of prewrath. Lovett's version of prewrath differs significantly from the prewrath position as we know it today. Lovett extended the tribulation to the entirety of the 70th week of Daniel and put the rapture at the end of this period. According to Lovett, the wrath of God is poured out after the 70th week. The church therefore escapes the wrath, but goes through a supposed seven year tribulation. As I have previously stated, the pioneer of the prewrath rapture view as we know it today was undoubtedly Robert Van Kampen who was later supported by Marvin Rosenthall. The fact that Prasch disputes these simple facts is a testimony to his duplicitous character.

Jacob Prasch has hatched his own very own rapture theory that he has designated "intra-seal" in a conceited attempt to get it recognised as a credible thesis. In reality, Prasch's muddled theory is a corruption of the prewrath position. Prasch is an opportunist whose theory is an unoriginal mishmash between prewrath and pre-trib. He has taken the timing of the rapture from the prewrath camp, hence his attempt to pass off prewrath and intra seal as two variations of the same fundamental position. {3} This claim is an insult to prewrath scholarship. I haven't noticed any prewrath scholars rushing to agree with Prasch about the alleged similarities between prewrath and intra-seal. Ironically, in an attempt to promote his own gibberish, Prasch has the audacity to point out where prewrath scholars supposedly "get it wrong"! Today's prewrath scholars are, in my view, very careful in their exegesis, and unlike Prasch, they can back up their assertions with the scriptures. 

*Prasch's pneumatology is copied from cult leader John Nelson Darby, who was the first person to claim that the Restrainer of 2 Thessalonians is the Holy Spirit. Prewrath teachers generally maintain that the Archangel Michael is the Restrainer, and although they are not dogmatic, there is scriptural evidence to support their view.

*Prasch oscillates confusingly between a supposed seven year tribulation (pre-trib), and a three and a half year tribulation (prewrath). {4}

*Prasch differs with prewrath position regarding the timing of the two witnesses in Revelation 11 despite demonstrable proof that the two witnesses will be in Jerusalem during the second half of the 70th week of Daniel. {5}

The danger of Prasch's intra seal theory is that it adds to the general confusion surrounding the 70th week of Daniel. Intra-seal may actually work against the purposes of God and have the effect of strengthening the false pre-tribulation rapture theory which has such a stronghold on the Western church. Prasch has done no-one any favours with his wacky theory. Furthermore, no one, even within Moriel, with the exception of Prasch himself, appears to understand intra-seal. Like Darby's pre-trib rapture deception, intra-seal is nothing more than an exercise in pseudo academic vainglory and should be treated as such. I regard this whole sorry theory as a presumptuous misrepresentation of the Holy Spirit. (2 Corinthians 11:4).

Prasch: "Pentecost is reversed... the same as Jesus went and sent the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit goes and sends Jesus. In that interim period you have a powerless church that cannot fulfil its mission any more... The Holy Spirit will not be taken from the hearts of true believers but He will be taken from the world (Gen 6:3; 2 Th 2:6). God will, as it were, return to an Old Covenant dealing with man.." {6} None of these statements can be validated by the scriptures. (1 John 4:1).

Another one of Prasch's dubious claims is his insistence that he had sorted out the timing of the rapture before anyone else!

9th August 2016:

Prach: "LONG BEFORE the term 'pre-wrath' was crystallised... I and others like me.. BEFORE pre-wrath came into vogue, BEFORE the term was coined, I believed that the rapture was between the sixth and seventh seal.. I and others have ALWAYS believed that the rapture will not take place until the faithful church knows who the Antichrist is .. I believed it BEFORE pre-wrath was even termed 'pre wrath' and believed it BEFORE those books that launched pre-wrath were written." {7}

My response:

"Let us do a little calculation shall we? Jacob Prasch claims that he became a Christian in February of 1972 through The Children of God cult. After leaving The Children of God, he admits to getting caught up in various false teachings during the following five years.{1} That brings us to 1977. Robert Van Kampen taught and developed what is known today as the 'pre-wrath' rapture during the 1970s, and Marvin Rosenthal eventually published his book The Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Church in 1990.{2} Is JP seriously expecting us to believe that he had his eschatology all sorted out during the 1970's prior to Van Kampen and Rosenthall? There were two views of the rapture prior the 1970's: The classic post-tribulational view, and Darby's false pre-tribulational view which became popular after the 1830s. Dispensationalist Robert Gundry also modified the post-trib position to take account of the 7th seal. I am not aware of anyone preaching a rapture in between the 6th and 7th seal of Revelation pre-dating Gundry, Van Kampen and Rosenthall, and yet JP says that he and some mysterious 'others' believed this view. It does not add up does it? Perhaps this is JP's nod to his Irish descent since it is clearly a bit of Irish blarney! I do not like to call anyone an outright liar, but I do not know what else to call this piece of fiction!" {8}

Speculation about Prasch's claimed "Jewish descent" has also come into question recently. {9} It appears that Prasch not only has a fake Jewish identity, he has a fake rapture theory to match!

John Haller: "Without truth your love isn't worth very much." (53:00) {10}

John Haller and other Prasch supporters have been very remiss in not presenting ALL the facts about Jacob Prasch in their attempted defamation of David Nathan. (Proverbs 20:10,23; 11:1). As an attorney, Haller should know the value of presenting ALL the evidence in any given dispute. Unfortunately he has been one of Prasch's shills for some considerable time, along with Amos Farrell, Joshua Chavez (or whatever he calls himself), Marco Quintana, Ian Huxham and Bill Randles. Incidentally Bill Randles now says: "I deeply regret much of my involvement with Jacob". {11}

Hopefully the 2019 Columbus Bible Prophecy Conference will redress Prasch's false teaching and bring some sanity to the rapture question.

1.   http://fbchapel.com/content/2019-columbus-bible-prophecy-conference
2.   https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2016/08/jacob-prasch-moriel-ministries-and-his.html
3.   https://web.archive.org/web/20190119230115/http://www.moriel.org/component/k2/
itemlist/tag/prewrath.html
4.   https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2018/07/jacob-prasch-make-up-your-mind-how-long.html
5.   https://prewrathrapture.com/the_two_witnesses_minister_during_the_sep
6.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8BousC77kU7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3iu1t6kh-I&feature=youtu.be
8.   https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2016/08/moriel-gets-questioned-jacob-praschs.html
9.   https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2019/04/is-jacob-prasch-fake-jew.html
10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTBziQz3D7o
11. https://vimeo.com/345492408/comments?fbclid=IwAR373BDgexrFpmkg0QhXz8K9K6_NEwAw33PNTt0kRjPP6dZbPNtPWwG_rBU

BILL RANDLES CONTINUED VILIFICATION OF DAVID NATHAN!

I have moved this post from December 2018 to the current date rather than writing again. Bill Randles has decided to revive his vilification of David Nathan due to his break with Jacob Prasch. https://billrandles.wordpress.com/2019/08/31/an-odd-deference/

This is why I cannot deal with Bill Randles.. he is totally disingenuous. He clearly did not speak to David Nathan about the Blood of Jesus during the millennium, or in fact any other issue prior to the Q&A session(s)! Incidentally, I am only aware of one Q&A session.

For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. (Mathew 7:2).

Having declared his "epiphany" in December 2018, Bill Randles quickly reverted back to type and continued to drag David Nathan's name through the mud!




JUST THREE DAYS LATER:

"Why There Is Still A Question... (David Nathan)
https://billrandles.wordpress.com/2018/12/30/why-there-is-still-a-question-david-nathan/?fbclid=IwAR1qlTIN1rXDrrGh7M3NZgJrTr1efL2iDcE8ExILmpLPwHBfPd7UEDfvD6E

Bill Randles:

So what is my problem? Why haven’t I ‘forgiven ‘ him? *

My problem is that David has never explained why he said such an outrageous thing in the first place, and I have never heard him once specifically repudiate it. "In my view, the original issue which triggered all of this boils down to two statements of David Nathan’s;

“ The blood of Jesus will not profit anyone anything in the Millennium” and the twin statement in which Nathan strongly asserts that the blood sacrifices offered in the Millennium are in no way memorial. In other words, they do not point back to the cross of Jesus, as the Lord’s Supper does.
” God the Father did not Create anything”...

Lets go over the facts again shall we?

David Nathan has explained that his statement about the Blood of Jesus was badly expressed and that he was not succinct etc.

David Nathan: "The statement which I should not have made but rather should have sought to express myself very differently and that folk have objected to is, “The Blood of Jesus will not profit anyone, anything in the Millennium.” In using this phrase, which I regret, I was not stating that the Blood of Jesus does not cleanse in all ages as this would be a clear violation of scripture. His blood alone can take away sin and every sacrifice from Genesis 3:21, when the Lord clothed Adam and Eve in tunics of skin to the sacrifices of the Millennium all point to Jesus. In the teaching I kept using the word atone to describe the purpose of the millennial sacrifices in the sense that they do not remove sin but cover sin. I reiterate again that I do not teach nor believe that the sin of an animal or animals can ever remove sin. Not under the Old Testament, not now nor in the age to come. Only the Blood of Jesus can remove sin both now and forever, including the millennium. This is and has always been what I have believed though I did not express it succinctly in the series on Eschatology."
https://www.bolm.co.za/index_htm_files/Response%20to%20Bill%20Randles%20-%20Open%20Letter.pdf

David Nathan: "The bible is absolutely clear that God is the creator. The Father ordained creation. Jesus was the creator in perfect unity with the Father.. not that God the Father was not involved in creation.." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGuCiRUvriM&t=851s

The irony is that in October 2016 both Jacob Prasch and David Nathan mis-taught the millennium at Community Church Devore in Southern California. At this meeting, Jacob Prasch, David Nathan and Marco Quintana were all in complete agreement: After the rapture of the church, the age of grace comes to an end.

Jacob Prasch: "Once the harpazo transpires, the Lord will refocus His primary intentions on the salvation of Israel, although not salvation in the sense that we understand it, not by grace, it will ?? revert back to the Old Testament way of dealing with man and the nations." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPNqKXRC8c0&feature=youtu.be

Why has David Nathan been singled out as a "heretic" by Bill Randles, and why has Jacob Prasch, who has also mis-taught the millennium, been excluded from his remarks? (Proverbs 28:21). In the meantime, although he had a complete month to do so, Bill Randles said he "hadn't had time" to examine Prasch's dubious intra-seal teachings including "Counting the Omer", and statements like "the Holy Spirit will not be in the world during the 70th week of Daniel", "Pentecost is reversed", etc. It would take perhaps an hour at the most for an experienced bible scholar/teacher to examine intra-seal and to find that it is utterly false. So what is the agenda?

I left Bill Randles a couple of messages on his FB page today 31st December 2018:

SIMON BRAKER PROPHETIC VOICE LEICESTER: AUGUST 2019 "PROPHECY"

Below: A dream from NAR "prophet" Simon Braker, Associate Minister at Holy Trinity Church, Leicester (CofE).

Simon Braker
1st August 2019

"In a dream, I was watching people play a game of jenga, as I watched I noticed the bottom three bricks had words on them, Germany, France and the UK,
A player came and began to try to take the UK brick out, the other players shouted don’t move that one it will make our tower fall over, we want to make it taller not make it collapse,
But the player persisted and the others began to fight with him to try to stop him taking out the brick, when he finally did manage to remove the brick, the tower began to wobble and sway,
The bricks began to turn to sand I could see these bricks also had names, Greece And Spain were the first to fall and then the whole tower turned to sand,
Then a massive storm began to blow and the people playing the game began to panic as the sand began to get swept away in the midst of the storm,
Then in the wind in heard the words, And so it shall be for those who choose to build their houses upon the sand, they will not stand in the great storm that is about to hit the earth" {1}

Braker is referring to Brexit, the supposed dissolution of Europe, and a "great storm" that is allegedly about to hit the earth. I would caution believers that it is necessity to test any prophecy given by an individual against the scriptures. (1 John 4:1). People would do much better to give their attention to biblical prophecy, rather than to the dreams and visions of dubious NAR "prophet" Simon Braker and his ilk. There are a number of false teachings associated with the NAR. One major problem is false eschatology i.e. their emphasis on postmillennial dominion theology (Christian reconstructionism), which denies the millennial reign of Jesus Christ. Dominionism stands in direct contradiction to Revelation 20:4: And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. A false prophet is a person who falsely claims the gift of prophecy or divine inspiration. The penalty for a false prophet in the Old Testament was death: But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst. Deuteronomy 13:5. This was the case even if the prophecy came to pass; the true test is identified as sound teaching! (Matthew 24:24; 2 Thessalonians 2:9). We don't put false prophets to death these days. However the New Testament takes the subject no less seriously - the fate of false teachers/prophets will be swift destruction (2 Peter 2:1-3; Matthew 7:15; Acts 20:30; 1 Corinthians 13:5; 2 Corinthians 11:13; Titus 1:6;2; 1 John 4:1-3), Romans 16:17; Titus 3:10. 2 John 1:10).

As a response to Braker's prophecy, I have given a brief outline of the scriptural account of final world events based on bible prophecy and possible corroborating world politics as I understand them. I write from a futurist premillennial perspective.

Given the lateness of the hour, I do not think that the dissolution of the EU is likely. I base my views primarily on the "ten kings" prophecy in the books of Daniel and Revelation, and secondarily on the globalist plan for a New World Order.

The Book of Daniel was written in the sixth century BC and is a major apocalyptic book of the Old Testament. The prophecies came in the form of dreams, initially Nebuchadnezzar's dreams (Daniel 2:1), followed by various dreams given to Daniel's himself. Unlike many modern day "prophets", the book of Daniel has scriptural authenticity: "The dream is certain, and its interpretation is sure." (Daniel 2:45). History precisely corroborates the earlier prophesies of the book of Daniel; as such we can fully expect its future prophesies to be precisely fulfilled.

Daniel interpreted King Nebuchadnezzar's dream of a great statue as God's prediction of the rise and fall of four world powers (Daniel 2:31-43). Most bible scholars agree with the traditional view that we are living in the fourth beast kingdom at the present time i.e. Rome (initially the Roman Empire - morphing into Roman Catholicism at the end of the fourth century).





After this, as I watched in my vision in the night, suddenly a fourth beast appeared, and it was terrifying—dreadful and extremely strong—with large iron teeth. It devoured and crushed; then it trampled underfoot whatever was left. It was different from all the beasts before it, and it had ten horns. While I was contemplating the horns, suddenly another horn, a little one, came up among them, and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like those of a man and a mouth that spoke words of arrogance. (Daniel 7:7-8).

The ten horns correspond to the ten toes of the image of Daniel 2 (Revelation 12:3; 13:1; 17:3; Daniel 2:41-42; Daniel 7:23). The ten toes represent a confederacy of ten kingdoms, some strong and some fragile, emerging from Rome.

And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. (Daniel 2:42 KJV). "..they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men" is an unusual phrase that has led to various theories elaborating on the theme that "the seed of men" indicates that "they" cannot be human. (Genesis 6:2).

Finally God will establish an everlasting kingdom that will utterly destroy all the previous kingdoms.

As you looked, a stone was cut out by no human hand, and it struck the image on its feet of iron and clay, and broke them in pieces. Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold, all together were broken in pieces, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, so that not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth. (Daniel 2:34-35 cf. 44-45).

Satan is described in Revelation 12:3 as a huge red dragon with seven heads, ten horns, and seven royal crowns on his heads. This description identifies Satan with the final beast kingdom more closely than any of the previous kingdoms. A difference occurs in the text however; Satan has seven crowns upon his heads, whereas the beast out of the sea, the final beast kingdom has ten crowns on its horns:

And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads seven diadems. (Revelation 12:3).
And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. (Revelation 13:1).

Revelation 17:1 describes a prostitute sitting on the scarlet beast with seven heads and ten horns. The prostitute (the false church) therefore sits upon Satan himself. 

The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and jewels and pearls, holding in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of her sexual immorality. And on her forehead was written a name of mystery: “Babylon the great, mother of prostitutes and of earth’s abominations.” And I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. (Revelation 17:4-6). 

Not without good reason, the woman/prostitute described above is identified as the Roman Catholic Church in many commentaries. There is no other church, religion or institution that has such a "bloody" history as of the Papal Church of Rome. {2} The Latin phrase "Sancta Mater Ecclesia" (Holy Mother Church), is sometimes employed to describe the Roman Catholic Church. The ecumenical agenda of many apostate denominations, including the NAR, is the vehicle through which Rome's "daughters", whom they refer to as "separated brethren", are being sucked into the vortex of spiritual prostitution and ultimate destruction. (Revelation 18:4).

This calls for a mind with wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman is seated; they are also seven kings, five of whom have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come, and when he does come he must remain only a little while. (Revelation 17:9-10). The phrase: Here is a call for wisdom (Revelation 13:8), seems related to the number of the beast, 666.

Seven heads can be accounted for as follows: John wrote Revelation in approximately 95 AD. At that particular time, five world empires had fallen, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece. The one in existence in John's time was Rome, "one is", and the other not yet come will be the Antichrist kingdom. {3}

..the ten horns are ten kings who will rise from this kingdom. After them another king, different from the earlier ones, will rise and subdue three kings. (Daniel 7:24).

And the ten horns that you saw are ten kings who have not yet received royal power, but they are to receive authority as kings for one hour, together with the beast. These are of one mind, and they hand over their power and authority to the beast.(Revelation 17:12-13).The ten kings of Revelation 17 have not yet risen to power, but they will each attain a kingdom in the future, for one hour.. i.e. a short space of time (Revelation 17:10). The ten kings will form a confederacy and rule together with the beast until they hand over their power and authority to him.

Many scholars refer to the European Union as the key to end time prophecy. I think that this is correct since "revived Rome" dominates end time prophecy. The historical position of the church is that the Antichrist will arise out of a revived Roman Empire. However, since the ten kings rule over the earth (Revelation 17:1-2), there appears to be a wider application than the EU. We see that the woman (revived Rome) rules over the ten kings: And the woman that you saw is the great city that has dominion over the kings of the earth.” (Revelation 17:18). The woman will have temporary control over the ten kings, but in reality they hate her and they will ultimately turn on her and destroy her. (Revelation 17:1,16-17).

Daniel 7:7-8 refers to "a little horn" with human like traits:

It was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns. I considered the horns, and behold, there came up among them another horn, a little one, before which three of the first horns were plucked up by the roots. And behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking great things. (Daniel 7:7-8,11, 20; Revelation 13:5). The eighth king is the person/entity that needs our attention: As for the beast that was and is not, it is an eighth but it belongs to the seven, and it goes to destruction. (Revelation 17:11).

The scriptures refer to the Antichrist as the first of two beasts. The fist beast arises from the sea, representing peoples and multitudes and nations and languages. (Revelation 17:15). The beast rising out of the earth is identified as "the false prophet" (Revelation 19:20), suggesting a "religious" aspect, as against the political aspect of the first beast. (Revelation 13:1, 11). The beast from the abyss (Revelation 11:7) is essentially identical to the beast from the sea (Revelation 13:7). This gives rise to the question: Is the Antichrist actually fully human? Just as Jesus Christ is 100% man and 100% God, so the Antichrist may be 100% man and 100% demonic. The Antichrist will emerge as the man of lawlessness (the son of perdition). (Daniel 11:36, 37; 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4). The dragon (Satan) will give him his authority. (Revelation 13:4 cf. Luke 4:6).

The Club of Rome was created in 1968 and consists of current and former heads of state, UN bureaucrats, high-level politicians and government officials, diplomats, scientists, economists, and business leaders from around the globe. In 1973 the Club of Rome published a report entitled “Regionalized and Adaptive Model of the Global World System”, stating its intention to divide the world into ten economic/political regions. Significantly, the United Nations and the Club of Rome have identified ten regions as ten “kingdoms”.

The Ten Kingdoms of the New World Government:

Kingdom 1: Canada and the United States of America

Kingdom 2: European Union - Western Europe.

Kingdom 3: Japan

Kingdom 4: Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Israel and Pacific Islands

Kingdom 5: Eastern Europe

Kingdom 6: Latin America - Mexico, Central and South America

Kingdom 7: North Africa and the Middle East (Muslims)

Kingdom 8: Central Africa

Kingdom 9: South and Southeast Asia

Kingdom 10: Central Asia

For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known. (1 Corinthians 13:9-12).

1. https://www.facebook.com/SOTPLeicester/?
2. http://www.the-bible-antichrist.com/roman-catholic-church-persecution.html
3. https://endtimestruth.com/new-world-order/the-beast-with-seven-heads-and-ten-horns/

Further Links:

https://bewareofthewolves.blogspot.com/2017/10/simon-braker-prophet-holy-trinity.html
http://www.spiritoferror.org
http://www.the-bible-antichrist.com/roman-catholic-church-persecution.html
https://biblehub.com/commentaries/revelation/17-4.htm